Re: Re: Buy one, get one
By: Weatherman to Moondog on Sun Sep 20 2020 11:58 pm

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The Armscor/ Rock Island 1911's have a good reputation. I heard from a couple competition guys they are great platforms for building into inexpensive match guns.

Yeah, I checked the reviews and about the only thing anybody had against the was that the frame was cast and not forged. Then the reviewers went on to s that cast was probably "good enough" and didn't seem to affect the quality o the arm at all. I'm quite satisfied with mine. I like the Parkerized finis I have one other "plain Jane" 1911, that being a Norinco 1911A1 that I bough from a friend who was trying to sell off her step-father's gun collection af he died. Other than that, I have a couple of Auto Ordnance Trump commemoratives. Not really interested in building a match gun out of any of them, mainly for personal carry or plinking in the back yard - the commemoratives are going into a shadow box for display purposes...

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A former co-worker from 25 years ago had a Norinco 1911. I'm guessing they were built to an older set of blueprints, maybe even from WII lend /lease licenses. He said either the ejector or extractor was an older design, and
he swapped it out right away. At a later date he picked up a Para Ordnance
P13 frame, then move the rest of the parts over to it. This was the first
time I handled a 1911 with the beefier grip design to accept a double stack magazine. IIRC the "13" stood for 12 in the mag and one in the pipe, or
maybe it was 13 in the mag. The P15 mags would work, but they stuck out pas tthe grip. Para made a P16, except it was chambered in .40 and didn't
require gorilla hands to hold it. Since then I have fired STI's "2011" style framed pistols, and they didn't feel as awkward as the older Para's.

I think I've mentioned it on several occasions, but after getting the opportun ity to shoot custom or higher end handguns and rifles, the "affordable" base models become less appealing. A few years ago i ran into an STI distributor
at the range, and he let me fire the STI Costa Comp model. I fell in love wit h it, until I looked online and seen it's MSRP was $4500. I hear the Taran Tactical STI's are pretty sweet for a third of that price, however my
concern is that John Wick 3 pushed their price up a bit.

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I think I've mentioned it on several occasions, but after getting the opportun ity to shoot custom or higher end handguns and rifles, the "affordable" base models become less appealing. A few years ago i ran into an STI distributor
at the range, and he let me fire the STI Costa Comp model. I fell in love wit h it, until I looked online and seen it's MSRP was $4500. I hear the Taran Tactical STI's are pretty sweet for a third of that price, however my concern is that John Wick 3 pushed their price up a bit.

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I know what you mean. I remember after "The Terminator" came out in '84, you couldn't touch a phased plasma rifle in any wattage range for any price. Took forever for them to come down to a reasonable price again....
Regards,
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Re: Re: Buy one, get one
By: Weatherman to Moondog on Wed Sep 23 2020 09:29 am

I think I've mentioned it on several occasions, but after getting the opportun ity to shoot custom or higher end handguns and rifles, the "affordable" base models become less appealing. A few years ago i ran in an STI distributor
at the range, and he let me fire the STI Costa Comp model. I fell in lov wit h it, until I looked online and seen it's MSRP was $4500. I hear the Taran Tactical STI's are pretty sweet for a third of that price, however concern is that John Wick 3 pushed their price up a bit.

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I know what you mean. I remember after "The Terminator" came out in '84, yo couldn't touch a phased plasma rifle in any wattage range for any price. To forever for them to come down to a reasonable price again....
Regards,
-==*>Weatherman<*==-

lol. I wonder if the same could be said about the AR-7 rifle showing up in three James Bond films (From Russia with Love, Goldfinger, and On Her
Majesty's Secret Service?)

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I know what you mean. I remember after "The Terminator" came out in

'84,

yo couldn't touch a phased plasma rifle in any wattage range for any price. To forever for them to come down to a reasonable price again....
Regards,
-==*>Weatherman<*==-

lol. I wonder if the same could be said about the AR-7 rifle showing up in three James Bond films (From Russia with Love, Goldfinger, and On Her Majesty's Secret Service?)

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Well, if people were regularly shooting helicopters out of the sky with AR7's then I'd imagine they'd have been flying off the shelves. As it is, I doubt they've ever been worth more than a couple of hundred dollars. I know they retail for more than that, but to me, I wouldn't pay more than two bills.
I've got two of them, in fact, one is a Charter Arms, the other is a more current Henry model. Paid $100 for the Charter, and $150 for the Henry. I find them to be very good backpacking, boating, camper guns, but I also have a Sub-2000 in 9mm (although I really would have preferred .40 SW) and I find
that the more I use that, the more I appreciate it for the roles listed above. Of course, I could just keep one on the boat, keep one in the camper and use one when hiking. Aside from that, I usually have a pistol or revolver with me as well so it's not as if I really NEED a small-caliber or pistol caliber carbine with me....

Regards,
-==*>Weatherman<*==-

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Re: Re: Buy one, get one
By: Weatherman to Moondog on Sat Sep 26 2020 09:09 am

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I know what you mean. I remember after "The Terminator" came out in

'84,

yo couldn't touch a phased plasma rifle in any wattage range for any price. To forever for them to come down to a reasonable price again..
Regards,
-==*>Weatherman<*==-

lol. I wonder if the same could be said about the AR-7 rifle showing up three James Bond films (From Russia with Love, Goldfinger, and On Her Majesty's Secret Service?)

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Well, if people were regularly shooting helicopters out of the sky with AR7' then I'd imagine they'd have been flying off the shelves. As it is, I doubt they've ever been worth more than a couple of hundred dollars. I know they retail for more than that, but to me, I wouldn't pay more than two bills. I've got two of them, in fact, one is a Charter Arms, the other is a more current Henry model. Paid $100 for the Charter, and $150 for the Henry. I find them to be very good backpacking, boating, camper guns, but I also have Sub-2000 in 9mm (although I really would have preferred .40 SW) and I find that the more I use that, the more I appreciate it for the roles listed abov Of course, I could just keep one on the boat, keep one in the camper and use one when hiking. Aside from that, I usually have a pistol or revolver with as well so it's not as if I really NEED a small-caliber or pistol caliber carbine with me....

Regards,
-==*>Weatherman<*==-

I also own two AR-7's. One is a Survival Arms model from the mid 1990's and the other was an early 2000's Henry with the 5/8" dovetail for rimfire
scopes. The Survival Arms model is a tack driver for simple gun, and the
Henry needs a larger variety of ammo through it to find a sweet spot load.
One nice thing about it is it eats the crappy Remington Thunderbolt ammo that makes my Marlins and Rugers puke. Downside they don't like the bulk box Federal with truncated bullets. Henry's lever guns are way more solid
designs with great finish on the wood and metal.

I have a Rossi gallery gun, a copy of a Winchester 62 (I think.) That's a fun little pump, like you'd imagine at the old style carnivals shooting shorts
and cb caps. I haven't tried shorts since the price for them is more than
for .22 LR. They lengthened the loading elevator thing to make LR easier to load, so it might not work well with shorts. The wood looks like a dark Brazi llian rosewood, however the sanding and finish job is horrible.


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Moondog wrote to Weatherman <=-

Well, if people were regularly shooting helicopters out of the sky with AR7' then I'd imagine they'd have been flying off the shelves. As it is, I doubt they've ever been worth more than a couple of hundred dollars. I know they retail for more than that, but to me, I wouldn't pay more than two bills. I've got two of them, in fact, one is a Charter Arms, the other is a more current Henry model. Paid $100 for the Charter, and $150 for the Henry. I find them to be very good backpacking, boating, camper guns, but I also have Sub-2000 in 9mm (although I really would have preferred .40 SW) and I find that the more I use that, the more I appreciate it for the roles listed abov Of course, I could just keep one on the boat, keep one in the camper and use one when hiking. Aside from that, I usually have a pistol or revolver with as well so it's not as if I really NEED a small-caliber or pistol caliber carbine with me....

Regards,
-==*>Weatherman<*==-

I also own two AR-7's. One is a Survival Arms model from the mid
1990's and the other was an early 2000's Henry with the 5/8" dovetail
for rimfire scopes. The Survival Arms model is a tack driver for
simple gun, and the Henry needs a larger variety of ammo through it to find a sweet spot load. One nice thing about it is it eats the crappy Remington Thunderbolt ammo that makes my Marlins and Rugers puke.
Downside they don't like the bulk box Federal with truncated bullets. Henry's lever guns are way more solid designs with great finish on the wood and metal.

You're looking at the difference between a $250 (retail) breakdown into a water-resistant, floating stock, bare-bones survival rifle and a well-crafted $320 and up rifle intended to bring back the nostalgia and romance of a long-gone era. We happen to have no fewer than six Henry tribute .22 rifles (at an average of $800 per) and a .44 Special Mare's Leg. My wife has a soft spot in her heart for those Henry tributes, and as long as I don't throw a fit when she buys them, she doesn't throw much of a fit when I buy something that I like.

I have a Rossi gallery gun, a copy of a Winchester 62 (I think.) That's
a fun little pump, like you'd imagine at the old style carnivals
shooting shorts and cb caps. I haven't tried shorts since the price
for them is more than for .22 LR. They lengthened the loading elevator thing to make LR easier to load, so it might not work well with shorts.
The wood looks like a dark Brazi llian rosewood, however the sanding
and finish job is horrible.

I remember shooting those old pump action .22's at an amusement park in my home town. Have no idea what they might have been, Remington, Winchester, and others made them. Was the very first gun I shot, and had a blast doing it. As I remember it, they had tubes of .22 shorts sitting there at the arcade, and they just slid the rounds into the magazine from the tube. Hell, I can't even remember what it cost to shoot, maybe a buck and a half, if that. I must have been all of 11 or 12 years old. I'll not speak about the quality of Taurus/Rossi arms. I happen to like their metallurgy and own a few examples of their work. While they may not be able to create a passable replica of a Winchester pump, I happen to think their more modern designes are quite acceptable...

Have a grand day....


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Re: Re: Buy one, get one
By: Moondog to Weatherman on Tue Sep 29 2020 12:54 am

Pardon the pun, but Taurus/ Rossi products are hit and miss depending on when they were made. One side of their plant is running cnc machines, while the shop Eli Whitney II had made for him. My brother has a Taurus PT 100 - a Beretta clone in .40 that runs fine. I have a Rossi matched pair single shto with a .22lr and 20 gauge barrel that locks up great

I can attest, the Tarus G2C is a great carry, with a lot of quality of life features at a killer price. I wana get a G3 sometime soon.
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Vlk-451 wrote to Moondog <=-

Pardon the pun, but Taurus/ Rossi products are hit and miss depending on when they were made. One side of their plant is running cnc machines, while the shop Eli Whitney II had made for him. My brother has a Taurus PT 100 - a Beretta clone in .40 that runs fine. I have a Rossi matched pair single shto with a .22lr and 20 gauge barrel that locks up great

I can attest, the Tarus G2C is a great carry, with a lot of quality of life features at a killer price. I wana get a G3 sometime soon.
= Crystal Palace, Orbitsville =

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I routinely carry a PT-145 Pro when it's impractical to carry my full size SW 645. I like the compact size of the Millenium Pro and for a double-stack .45 the grip is not overly wide and easy to hold. I've several other Taurus/Rossi firearms, including a Model 68 revolver that also is carried when concealment is a priority.

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