• Owning vs Ride Share

    From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Nightfox on Wednesday, September 07, 2022 11:22:06
    On 9/6/22 13:21, Nightfox wrote:
    If you don't have to work in an office every day, or if you live
    near your work, then it's better to not have a car and ride share.
    If you commute over 30 minutes each way, and take road trips through
    the year or travel more, you're better off having transportation.

    There's the freedom matter as well, not to mention shopping becomes
    more constrained if you like to shop in stores.

    If you order your groceries & everything online, I'd think the
    delivery fees and tips could add up significantly.

    It depends... if you are making payments on a $50k car at $900/mo and insurance on top of that, there's a *lot* of room for delivery fees and
    ride share apps... even if you uber a few times a week. And $50k is
    just a middle ground for a lot of newer cars if you're including
    SUV/Truck options.
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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Arelor on Wednesday, September 07, 2022 11:24:20
    On 9/6/22 13:44, Arelor wrote:
    The real issue with ridesharing is that oftentimes you end up
    waiting for the other rideshares to show up. Sometimes they
    don't show up and they don't bother to notify you. I used to
    rideshare a lot in the past and, while it cuts costs, it is
    such a pain in the ass at times. A regular bus line is so
    much better (if it exists) despite the fact bus lines have a
    tendency to be poor solutions.

    I'm referring more to "ride share" like Uber/Lift over real ride
    sharing... Though real ride sharing can help a lot if you live/work
    near the same place(s) or in route.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tracker1 on Wednesday, September 07, 2022 16:11:08
    Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Wed Sep 07 2022 11:22 am

    It depends... if you are making payments on a $50k car at $900/mo and insurance on top of that, there's a *lot* of room for delivery fees and

    who the fuck makes that high of a payment on a car? someone with low credit score and bankrupcy?

    just a middle ground for a lot of newer cars if you're including
    SUV/Truck options.

    people don't need newer cars if they're on a budget.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Tracker1 on Wednesday, September 07, 2022 15:03:40
    Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Wed Sep 07 2022 11:22 am

    It depends... if you are making payments on a $50k car at $900/mo and insurance on top of that, there's a *lot* of room for delivery fees and ride share apps... even if you uber a few times a week. And $50k is
    just a middle ground for a lot of newer cars if you're including SUV/Truck options.

    I feel like $50K is more than I'd want to spend on a car (and would probably buy more than I'd really need in a vehicle). I think I could find a decent car for a lot less than that (and even less if it's a used car). And ideally if the cost is low enough, I could just buy it outright and avoid paying extra in interest that would come with a loan.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Wednesday, September 07, 2022 15:08:31
    Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: MRO to Tracker1 on Wed Sep 07 2022 04:11 pm

    It depends... if you are making payments on a $50k car at $900/mo and
    insurance on top of that, there's a *lot* of room for delivery fees
    and

    who the fuck makes that high of a payment on a car? someone with low credit score and bankrupcy?

    I don't know, but in my area, I've been seing plenty of Teslas, BMWs, trucks, etc. that I'm sure cost around that or more, and I wonder how so many people can afford to be paying for such vehicles, or if they're getting loans where they may be paying that much for their vehicle..

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Wednesday, September 07, 2022 18:26:25
    Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Wed Sep 07 2022 03:08 pm

    who the fuck makes that high of a payment on a car? someone with low credit score and bankrupcy?

    I don't know, but in my area, I've been seing plenty of Teslas, BMWs, trucks, etc. that I'm sure cost around that or more, and I wonder how so many people can afford to be paying for such vehicles, or if they're getting loans where they may be paying that much for their vehicle..

    there will always be irresponsible people who bite off more than they can chew but it's not the norm. my friend was bipolar and got a truck that was more than his house payment. he had fun showing it off but after a while it was just another truck.

    with bmw's i've seen people buy used ones with high mileage and act like they are ballers.
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Wednesday, September 07, 2022 20:19:00
    MRO wrote to Tracker1 <=-

    Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Wed Sep 07 2022 11:22 am

    It depends... if you are making payments on a $50k car at $900/mo and insurance on top of that, there's a *lot* of room for delivery fees and

    who the fuck makes that high of a payment on a car? someone with
    low credit score and bankrupcy?

    No, somebody who buys an expensive car. Try buying an $80K BMW and see
    what the payment is. Would you like me to tell you?



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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MINDS3 to Tracker1 on Friday, September 09, 2022 00:07:12
    Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Wed Sep 07 2022 11:22 am

    If you order your groceries & everything online, I'd think the
    delivery fees and tips could add up significantly.

    It depends... if you are making payments on a $50k car at $900/mo and insurance on top of that, there's a *lot* of room for delivery fees and
    ride share apps... even if you uber a few times a week. And $50k is
    just a middle ground for a lot of newer cars if you're including
    SUV/Truck options.

    And if you invested that money, you'd be getting a return, so the total cost would be less when you offset dividends you could be getting.

    I think people are just USED to the idea that you buy a car. It's the done thing, just part of the culture. Something we as a society are brainwashed(?) into doing, an automatic action when we reach that life stage. I would bet most people who bought a car, did not assidiously research the cost/benefit implications of buying vs putting that money elsewhere and using ad hoc services. For many people, whether this lands in favour of buying or not will depend on circumstances. But young people in urban areas, who can walk or bike to work could very well have looked at it and found that not buying is better.

    I work at a company, where quite a few white collar professionals walk or bike to work.

    People are now evaluating it more critically, and realising it doesn't add up.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Boraxman on Thursday, September 08, 2022 08:43:31
    Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Boraxman to Tracker1 on Fri Sep 09 2022 12:07 am

    I think people are just USED to the idea that you buy a car. It's the done thing, just part of the culture. Something we as a society are brainwashed(?) into doing, an automatic action when we reach that life stage. I would bet most people who bought a car, did not assidiously research the cost/benefit implications of buying vs putting that money elsewhere and using ad hoc services. For many people, whether this lands in favour of buying or not will depend on circumstances. But young people in urban areas, who can walk or bike to work could very well have looked at it and found that not buying is better.

    While it makes sense to do a cost/benefit analysis, I also think sometimes people are just willing to pay a bit more for convenience if it has enough value to them. Owning your own car means being able to go where you want, when you want, and being able to transport things. Getting to work and back home every day and not having to wait for a bus (and also not having to wait while the bus picks up & drops off other passengers) is useful. Being able to transport groceries in a car is useful, even if the store is relatively close (I wouldn't want to carry bags of groceries while walking, even just a few blocks).

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Tracker1 on Thursday, September 08, 2022 07:24:00
    Tracker1 wrote to Nightfox <=-

    It depends... if you are making payments on a $50k car at $900/mo and insurance on top of that, there's a *lot* of room for delivery fees and ride share apps... even if you uber a few times a week. And $50k is
    just a middle ground for a lot of newer cars if you're including
    SUV/Truck options.

    After the supply-chain debacle, I'll skip the dealer with their "because we can" markups and take that 2006 Honda Accord with 330K miles, peeling clear coat, dirty but intact interior, and complete service records for $1600 that
    I saw.

    I'm amazed at what auto-detailers (or an owner with a portable Bissell cleaner) can do to an interior. I'm not going to buy another used car
    without having the interior detailed again.

    I bought a 2011 Mazda CX-9 for $8000 (great car, killer AWD, seats 7, fun to drive, doesn't feel like 5000+ pounds) and had the interior detailed by
    those people who come to your office with a van. Steam cleaned and
    conditioned leather, headliner cleaned, all the plastic cleaned and treated, carpets and mats shampooed and it looked like new on the inside.

    The outside was in pretty good shape - a hand wash, tire treatment, a little cleaner on the headlights and it was good to go.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Tracker1 on Thursday, September 08, 2022 07:28:00
    Tracker1 wrote to Arelor <=-

    I'm referring more to "ride share" like Uber/Lift over real ride sharing... Though real ride sharing can help a lot if you live/work
    near the same place(s) or in route.

    Uber/Lyft always bothered me. I prefer a plain old taxi. Most of my cab experience was in San Francisco, though - you could walk outside downtown
    and hail a cab in a couple of minutes.

    They all had computerized ride hailing systems, but one time I took a cab
    it had broken down and they had the dispatcher on the radio droning out intersection names and traffic advisories. It felt like something out of an old noir film.

    For some reason, years later, I remember the dispatcher, in that droning monotone he had, reporting a hazard:

    "There's an accident at XXX and YYY, a cab, a truck and a cab".


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Thursday, September 08, 2022 07:30:00
    Nightfox wrote to Tracker1 <=-

    I feel like $50K is more than I'd want to spend on a car (and would probably buy more than I'd really need in a vehicle). I think I could find a decent car for a lot less than that (and even less if it's a
    used car). And ideally if the cost is low enough, I could just buy it outright and avoid paying extra in interest that would come with a
    loan.

    Get the loan, do all of the negotiation up front. Make sure the loan doesn't have a prepayment penalty and pay it off in 30 days.

    You have more negotiating power when they're writing a note on the car, as they make a ton of money on the financing. They have less incentive to negotiate when you're paying cash.


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  • From Boraxman@VERT/MINDS3 to Nightfox on Saturday, September 10, 2022 00:05:53
    Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Nightfox to Boraxman on Thu Sep 08 2022 08:43 am


    While it makes sense to do a cost/benefit analysis, I also think sometimes people are just willing to pay a bit more for convenience if it has enough value to them. Owning your own car means being able to go where you want, when you want, and being able to transport things. Getting to work and back home every day and not having to wait for a bus (and also not having to wait while the bus picks up & drops off other passengers) is useful. Being able to transport groceries in a car is useful, even if the store is relatively close (I wouldn't want to carry bags of groceries while walking, even just a few blocks).

    Try to look at the bigger picture. I know in our society we only ever look at things from a purely individualistic point of view, but the car isn't just you buying one. The tax payer has to pay for infrastructure, this is a MAJOR expense too. It's more than just buying a toothbrush. The whole idea of the car is an investment that society makes at large. Considering that the speed and ease at which we travel in cars declines over time (its taking longer and longer to drive around the city and costs more and more to ameliorate traffic snarls), surely the diminishing returns would be something to consider.

    At some point, we as a society need to examine this critically, and look to urban design which reduces the frequency in which we find the car to be the only viable transportation option.

    I've stated this like 100 times so far, and everyone is fixated on their own personal purchase.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, September 09, 2022 11:09:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Tracker1 on Thu Sep 08 2022 07:24 am

    Tracker1 wrote to Nightfox <=-

    It depends... if you are making payments on a $50k car at $900/mo and insurance on top of that, there's a *lot* of room for delivery fees and ride share apps... even if you uber a few times a week. And $50k is just a middle ground for a lot of newer cars if you're including SUV/Truck options.

    After the supply-chain debacle, I'll skip the dealer with their "because we can" markups and take that 2006 Honda Accord with 330K miles, peeling clear coat, dirty but intact interior, and complete service records for $1600 that I saw.

    I'm amazed at what auto-detailers (or an owner with a portable Bissell cleaner) can do to an interior. I'm not going to buy another used car without having the interior detailed again.

    I bought a 2011 Mazda CX-9 for $8000 (great car, killer AWD, seats 7, fun to drive, doesn't feel like 5000+ pounds) and had the interior detailed by those people who come to your office with a van. Steam cleaned and conditioned leather, headliner cleaned, all the plastic cleaned and treated, carpets and mats shampooed and it looked like new on the inside.

    The outside was in pretty good shape - a hand wash, tire treatment, a little cleaner on the headlights and it was good to go.


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    made for an economy where most folks could replace a car every 3-4 years. if you got 100k miles, you had that car forever and the next owner was the scrap dealer.

    The impasse I've run into is living in the snow belt, and icy roads are treate d with salt in order to melt the ice. Unless you're religious about spraying off your car and under body, rust sets in. my nephew bought a diesel truck with 200k miles on it, and bragged he could drive it over 300k miles. That might be the case if it doesn't rust in half before then.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Boraxman on Friday, September 09, 2022 14:28:00
    Boraxman wrote to Nightfox <=-

    While it makes sense to do a cost/benefit analysis, I also think sometimes people are just willing to pay a bit more for convenience if it has enough value to them. Owning your own car means being able to go where you want, when you want, and being able to transport things. Getting to work and back home every day and not having to wait for a bus (and also not having to wait while the bus picks up & drops off other passengers) is useful. Being able to transport groceries in a car is useful, even if the store is relatively close (I wouldn't want to carry bags of groceries while walking, even just a few blocks).

    Try to look at the bigger picture. I know in our society we only
    ever look at things from a purely individualistic point of view,
    but the car isn't just you buying one. The tax payer has to pay
    for infrastructure, this is a MAJOR expense too. It's more than
    just buying a toothbrush. The whole idea of the car is an
    investment that society makes at large. Considering that the
    speed and ease at which we travel in cars declines over time (its
    taking longer and longer to drive around the city and costs more
    and more to ameliorate traffic snarls), surely the diminishing
    returns would be something to consider.

    At some point, we as a society need to examine this critically,
    and look to urban design which reduces the frequency in which we
    find the car to be the only viable transportation option.

    I've stated this like 100 times so far, and everyone is fixated
    on their own personal purchase.

    Perhaps that is because you're wrong.



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  • From Irish_Monk@VERT/WARPED to poindexter FORTRAN on Saturday, September 10, 2022 09:16:00
    After the supply-chain debacle, I'll skip the dealer with their "because we can" markups and take that 2006 Honda Accord with 330K miles,
    peeling clear coat, dirty but intact interior, and complete service records for $1600 that I saw.

    I bought a 2010 Toyota Tundra in 2011. In 2011 this is when nobody wanted the bigger trucks/engines. So I was able to get it for a really good deal. I make sure all the maintenance is done on the truck. Its starting to rust a little here and there. But runs great. Im hoping to get 10 more years out of it if I can. Like someone said on here, automobiles are a horrible investment. But part of that is partially do to the way people think now a days. Most people buy a vehicle and only use for like 2 years, trade in for a very low value, and buy another new vehicle. Most likely to just keep up with the Jones.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Irish_Monk on Saturday, September 10, 2022 11:27:29
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Irish_Monk to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Sep 10 2022 09:16 am

    it if I can. Like someone said on here, automobiles are a horrible investment. But part of that is partially do to the way people think now a days. Most people buy a vehicle and only use for like 2 years, trade in for a very low value, and buy another new vehicle. Most likely to just keep up with the Jones.


    the place i bought me last car from told me about this lady. she buys a new car, drives it for 10k miles and then trades it in. she's probably rich and she's probably helping people by taking away that new car overhead price and letting regular joes buy discounted used cars with nothing wrong with them.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Irish_Monk on Saturday, September 10, 2022 16:51:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Irish_Monk to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Sep 10 2022 09:16 am

    After the supply-chain debacle, I'll skip the dealer with their "becaus we can" markups and take that 2006 Honda Accord with 330K miles, peeling clear coat, dirty but intact interior, and complete service records for $1600 that I saw.

    I bought a 2010 Toyota Tundra in 2011. In 2011 this is when nobody wanted th uns great. Im hoping to get 10 more years out of it if I can. Like someone s trade in for a very low value, and buy another new vehicle. Most likely to j

    |10I|02rish_|10M|02onk

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    My father has a 2000 withthe Toyota Racing Development suspension package. Still runs like a top. Nice ride, feels much better than most Fords and Chevy's I've been in.

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  • From Irish_Monk@VERT/WARPED to Moondog on Saturday, September 10, 2022 21:29:00
    I bought a 2010 Toyota Tundra in 2011. In 2011 this is when nobody want uns great. Im hoping to get 10 more years out of it if I can. Like some trade in for a very low value, and buy another new vehicle. Most likely

    Irish_Monk

    My father has a 2000 withthe Toyota Racing Development suspension
    package. Still runs like a top. Nice ride, feels much better than most Fords and Chevy's I've been in.

    Yeah I have always been pretty impressed with Toyota cars and trucks myself.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Irish_Monk on Sunday, September 11, 2022 12:38:55
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Irish_Monk to Moondog on Sat Sep 10 2022 09:29 pm

    My father has a 2000 withthe Toyota Racing Development suspension package. Still runs like a top. Nice ride, feels much better than most Fords and Chevy's I've been in.

    Yeah I have always been pretty impressed with Toyota cars and trucks myself.


    those asian companies share their technology so they have pretty well built cars in comparison to competitors. they last a lot longer, too.
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Nightfox on Friday, September 09, 2022 07:46:00
    Nightfox wrote to Boraxman <=-

    While it makes sense to do a cost/benefit analysis, I also think
    sometimes people are just willing to pay a bit more for convenience if
    it has enough value to them. Owning your own car means being able to
    go where you want, when you want, and being able to transport things.


    I never dated without a car. Couldn't imagine how bus dating would have worked, but I suppose it works somehow.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Sunday, September 11, 2022 16:21:11
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Fri Sep 09 2022 07:46 am

    Nightfox wrote to Boraxman <=-

    While it makes sense to do a cost/benefit analysis, I also think sometimes people are just willing to pay a bit more for convenience if it has enough value to them. Owning your own car means being able to go where you want, when you want, and being able to transport things.


    I never dated without a car. Couldn't imagine how bus dating would have worked, but I suppose it works somehow.



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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Sunday, September 11, 2022 17:25:00
    MRO wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I never dated without a car. Couldn't imagine how bus dating would have worked, but I suppose it works somehow.

    your date fucks a guy with a car

    Not everybody dates strippers.



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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Gamgee on Monday, September 12, 2022 17:45:08
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Gamgee to MRO on Sun Sep 11 2022 05:25 pm

    your date fucks a guy with a car

    Not everybody dates strippers.


    No, not everybody does, but still MRO has a bit of a point.

    Relationships have to be maintained. You need to do interesting stuff with your girl or she will become bored and move on with somebody who is more interesting. Being interesting takes resources and that often means if you lack some key resource, you are a bad catch.

    I know I am the anti-romantic prick in town, but with attention spans shortened to the point they are, my observation is that gals ditch their boyfriends more frequently than I take a shower (and I do multiple times a day). Men are very low value in the dating scene because there are so many of us drooling after crumbs. Girls get to decide which guy they like and to change opinion at any time. If you cannot take your girl to places you are pretty much fucked. Rather, you are pretty much not-fucking.


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  • From esc@VERT/MONTEREY to MRO on Monday, September 12, 2022 18:59:00
    your date fucks a guy with a car

    holy shit this was hilarious :D

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Tuesday, September 13, 2022 00:21:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Arelor to Gamgee on Mon Sep 12 2022 05:45 pm

    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Gamgee to MRO on Sun Sep 11 2022 05:25 pm

    your date fucks a guy with a car

    Not everybody dates strippers.


    No, not everybody does, but still MRO has a bit of a point.

    Relationships have to be maintained. You need to do interesting stuff with y girl or she will become bored and move on with somebody who is more interesting. Being interesting takes resources and that often means if you l some key resource, you are a bad catch.

    I know I am the anti-romantic prick in town, but with attention spans shorte to the point they are, my observation is that gals ditch their boyfriends mo frequently than I take a shower (and I do multiple times a day). Men are ver low value in the dating scene because there are so many of us drooling after crumbs. Girls get to decide which guy they like and to change opinion at any time. If you cannot take your girl to places you are pretty much fucked. Rather, you are pretty much not-fucking.


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    It's worse when you get in your 40's and 50's. One would imagine an older woman would be more confident, less crazy, and more independent. That is not the case. There's nothing like a divorcee that is in a hurry to move in with you because she's temporarily living back home with her parents or a grandparent, and feels uncomfortable bringing a man over. If they have children or college age young adults, lock up and hide all your nice stuff in case the kids are thieves. I'm not saying all kids from broken families are ho ods. Trust and respect need to be earned.

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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Arelor on Tuesday, September 13, 2022 17:25:00
    Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-

    I know I am the anti-romantic prick in town, but with attention spans shortened to the point they are, my observation is that gals ditch
    their boyfriends more frequently than I take a shower (and I do
    multiple times a day). Men are very low value in the dating scene
    because there are so many of us drooling after crumbs. Girls get to
    decide which guy they like and to change opinion at any time. If you cannot take your girl to places you are pretty much fucked. Rather, you are pretty much not-fucking.

    Careful, you are close to incel territory there.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to bex on Wednesday, September 14, 2022 14:01:35
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: bex to Arelor on Tue Sep 13 2022 05:25 pm

    Careful, you are close to incel territory there.


    Reality is then close to incel territory, then, whatever that is supposed to mean.

    Romanticism is dead. Now members in couples just look for selfish instant
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to bex on Wednesday, September 14, 2022 14:05:18
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Arelor to bex on Wed Sep 14 2022 02:01 pm

    Romanticism is dead. Now members in couples just look for selfish instant

    uh, the line got cut. The whole sentence is that members in couples just look for instrant gratification and just don't put any effort in relationships whatsoever. If you are the sort of person who actually wants to put any effort into it, chances are the other person is not gonna reciprocate.

    It sucks specially if you are a guy because society is engineered so guys make the upfront investment: we are supposed to look for a girl and impress her, and that takes resources. It is that simple.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Arelor on Wednesday, September 14, 2022 13:59:21
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Arelor to bex on Wed Sep 14 2022 02:01 pm

    Reality is then close to incel territory, then, whatever that is supposed to mean.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Wednesday, September 14, 2022 17:28:17
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Nightfox to Arelor on Wed Sep 14 2022 01:59 pm

    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Arelor to bex on Wed Sep 14 2022 02:01 pm

    Reality is then close to incel territory, then, whatever that is supposed to mean.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel


    that's a stupid insult liberals came up with.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Wednesday, September 14, 2022 18:18:53
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Nightfox to Arelor on Wed Sep 14 2022 01:59 pm

    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Arelor to bex on Wed Sep 14 2022 02:01 pm

    Reality is then close to incel territory, then, whatever that is suppos to mean.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel

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    I honestly don't know how the idea that if you don't pour resources into
    things you won't get crap done can be tagged as incel, then.


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  • From esc@VERT/MONTEREY to Arelor on Wednesday, September 14, 2022 17:55:00
    It sucks specially if you are a guy because society is engineered so
    guys make the upfront investment: we are supposed to look for a girl and impress her, and that takes resources. It is that simple.

    Can't say this has been my experience at all. *shrug*

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to esc on Thursday, September 15, 2022 03:25:06
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: esc to Arelor on Wed Sep 14 2022 05:55 pm

    It sucks specially if you are a guy because society is engineered so guys make the upfront investment: we are supposed to look for a girl an impress her, and that takes resources. It is that simple.

    Can't say this has been my experience at all. *shrug*


    The number of times I have had a girl make an advance on me is far smaller than the number of girls I have made an advancement on.

    My friends have a similar experience.

    If one sits on his ass expecting for the girl he likes to show up and ask for a date, he is up for a disappointment.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Thursday, September 15, 2022 10:03:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Arelor to esc on Thu Sep 15 2022 03:25 am

    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: esc to Arelor on Wed Sep 14 2022 05:55 pm

    It sucks specially if you are a guy because society is engineered so guys make the upfront investment: we are supposed to look for a girl impress her, and that takes resources. It is that simple.

    Can't say this has been my experience at all. *shrug*


    The number of times I have had a girl make an advance on me is far smaller t the number of girls I have made an advancement on.

    My friends have a similar experience.

    If one sits on his ass expecting for the girl he likes to show up and ask fo date, he is up for a disappointment.

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    That's one thing I don't like about friends playing matchmaker. That initial spark or sense of chemistry isn't always present. Even though I have never been diagnosed, I suspect I have autism spectrum disorder, and I do not have the same level of emotional need for attachment as most people. I'll go out and have fun, however the rate at which i would like things to progress are much slower. I don't get that "OMG I need her in my life" excited like when
    I was a teen. I think I got burned out long ago, and refuse to trust my feelings of what is love or lust.

    I mentioned this in another thread, dating in your 40's and 50's is a minefield. I think this is neither a man or woman only thing, but some get so
    used to being attached or were married immediately from high school, they cannot function as individuals. They cling too hard on requiring a nother person for emotion support and stability. I'm not sure I would call that love . Maybe a security blanket.

    Another annoyance is I get get in a relationship so i can hear all the crazy bullshit her ex had put ther through. I guess after 20+ years it's hard to avoid talking about her ex, but I get tired of that shit. if they still talk with their ex,it makes me wonder if it is completely over with them?

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Thursday, September 15, 2022 13:07:48
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Arelor to esc on Thu Sep 15 2022 03:25 am


    My friends have a similar experience.

    If one sits on his ass expecting for the girl he likes to show up and ask for a date, he is up for a disappointment.

    usually people that say they dont have problems are people who take the easy way out and date within friend groups or the workplace.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Moondog on Thursday, September 15, 2022 12:09:21
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Thu Sep 15 2022 10:03 am

    people. I'll go out and have fun, however the rate at which i would like things to progress are much slower. I don't get that "OMG I need her in my life" excited like when I was a teen. I think I got burned out long ago, and refuse to trust my feelings of what is love or lust.

    It can take time to get to know someone and know they're right for you. If you feel like you really need someone in your life right away and/or want to move in or marry them quickly, you're taking a gamble.

    Another annoyance is I get get in a relationship so i can hear all the crazy bullshit her ex had put ther through. I guess after 20+ years it's hard to avoid talking about her ex, but I get tired of that shit. if they still talk with their ex,it makes me wonder if it is completely over with them?

    Some people still talk to their ex because they had children together. Or sometimes they might have had a stillborn child who they still want to remember and honor, etc.. Some people also have a friendly divorce and are still on good terms with their ex.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Moondog on Thursday, September 15, 2022 14:22:44
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Thu Sep 15 2022 10:03 am

    I mentioned this in another thread, dating in your 40's and 50's is a minefield. I think this is neither a man or woman only thing, but some get
    used to being attached or were married immediately from high school, they cannot function as individuals. They cling too hard on requiring a nother person for emotion support and stability. I'm not sure I would call that lo . Maybe a security blanket.

    Another annoyance is I get get in a relationship so i can hear all the crazy bullshit her ex had put ther through. I guess after 20+ years it's hard to avoid talking about her ex, but I get tired of that shit. if they still talk with their ex,it makes me wonder if it is completely over with them?


    I think our society has a big problem, in which we are served this idea that unless we are in a relationship, we are losers. A lot of people try to get into a relationship, but when you ask them what the goals are for such relationship, they have not a clue.

    Seriously? Are you gonna sink so many resources into something and you don t know what you do want it for?

    My hypothesis is that a lot of people just tries to get into relationships because that is what is expected from them. I think my aunt has never loved anybody, for example. Her first marriage was due to the fact "it was the right time for a wedding". The next one was because he needed a guy to use up and cast aside once spent.

    The most powerful reason for geting in a stable relationship would be to further up some common long term interest. I am talking of things like building a family, or a business, or a long-term operation. I think a girl you can do such things with is worth the investment, but I have serious doubts there is a lot of marging for doing any of these things with a post 40s yo woman. WIth one of those you are going to have the burden of her past relationships and kids and whatever have you, and at that point I seriously doubt you are going to have the energy to build anything meaningful as if one were in his 20s.

    I am going to be very crude outright and declare most women past that point are a bad investment not even a vulture fund should consider for their investment folder, unless the plan is to use and dump the assets.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Thursday, September 15, 2022 17:27:42
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Thu Sep 15 2022 10:03 am


    That's one thing I don't like about friends playing matchmaker. That initial spark or sense of chemistry isn't always present. Even though I have never been diagnosed, I suspect I have autism spectrum disorder, and I

    one other thing about the friend matchmaker shit: nothing lasts forever, so when the breakup comes people normally have to pick sides. so everyone loses a friend.

    i went out with a group and i clicked real good with this chick in the female group and then people told me to lay off because they had a guy for her. she was the one who approached me and wanted to spend time because we were both outsiders.

    so i laid off and left and this guy got her high and drunk and he ended up date raping her. nice friends!


    Another annoyance is I get get in a relationship so i can hear all the crazy bullshit her ex had put ther through. I guess after 20+ years it's hard to avoid talking about her ex, but I get tired of that shit. if they still talk with their ex,it makes me wonder if it is completely over with them?

    yeah you got someone with baggage. a little bit of talk once in a while is okay , but people should move on or just not date when they arent ready.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Thursday, September 15, 2022 17:29:53
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Thu Sep 15 2022 10:03 am

    feelings of what is love or lust.

    I mentioned this in another thread, dating in your 40's and 50's is a minefield. I think this is neither a man or woman only thing, but some get so


    you can be like that gamgee guy and marry the prostitute you and your buddies used to frequent when you were overseas in the military. they will be happy to marry and be out of that situation.

    i don't think she will keep doing the "me so horny" act once she settles in, though.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Thursday, September 15, 2022 17:31:22
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Nightfox to Moondog on Thu Sep 15 2022 12:09 pm

    Some people still talk to their ex because they had children together. Or

    you can be civil and help parent, but you don't have to 'talk' or be friends. over is over.

    sometimes they might have had a stillborn child who they still want to remember and honor, etc..

    ew wierd.

    Some people also have a friendly divorce and are
    still on good terms with their ex.

    they call that fuck buddies. another unhealthy thing.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Thursday, September 15, 2022 18:28:23
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: MRO to Moondog on Thu Sep 15 2022 05:27 pm

    one other thing about the friend matchmaker shit: nothing lasts forever, so when the breakup comes people normally have to pick sides. so everyone loses a friend.

    This is a big annoyance of mine. I think I have already commented on it.

    Friends are typically longer-lasting than romantic relationships. Risking friendships, which are expected to last for long, in order to maintain a romance, which is statistically expected to be
    short lived, is a bad deal.

    Pussy should not beat friendship. If you let that happen, you deserve what is coming.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Thursday, September 15, 2022 18:39:32
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Sep 15 2022 05:31 pm

    Some people still talk to their ex because they had children together. Or

    you can be civil and help parent, but you don't have to 'talk' or be friends.
    over is over.


    The main reason to avoid a serious relationship with somebody who has a burden is that her burden will end up being your burden too.

    A friend of mine got into a romance with a single mother who had her kid with 16. He ended up acting more like a parent than as a boyfriend. Bonus anti-points because this guy hates kids and
    has made it clear over and over again that he plans not to produce any little monster. I think he thought he could bed this woman and keep the contact with the kid to a minimum, but the harsh
    truth is that if you engage with a gal who comes with a larvae from a previous relationship... her larvae comes first and you come second in her priorities. That, if you are lucky.

    Last time I saw this guy both mother and larvae had moved into this guy's house and he was freaking out because he didn't want to deal with the kid, but didn't want to end the relationship
    either. It is extremely important to be able to see these things before hand. If I got something serious with a woman, my horses and dogs come in Falken's package, so if you don't want horses
    and dogs, don't fucking buy the fucking package. Same with single mothers.

    I haven't seen this guy for ages, but last I have heard is he got rid of his troubles and is now dating somebody else. It is never late to learn from your mistakes and correct them :-)


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Thursday, September 15, 2022 19:54:29
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Arelor to MRO on Thu Sep 15 2022 06:39 pm

    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Sep 15 2022 05:31 pm

    Some people still talk to their ex because they had children together. Or

    you can be civil and help parent, but you don't have to 'talk' or be friends.
    over is over.


    The main reason to avoid a serious relationship with somebody who has a burden is that her burden will end up being your burden too.

    A friend of mine got into a romance with a single mother who had her kid with 16. He ended up acting more like a parent than as a boyfriend. Bonus anti-points because this guy hates kids and has made it clear over and over again that he plans not to produce any little monster. I think he thought he could bed this woman and keep the contact with the kid to a minimum, but the harsh truth is that if you engage with a gal who comes with a larvae from a previous relationship... her larvae comes first and you come second in her priorities. That, if you are lucky.

    Last time I saw this guy both mother and larvae had moved into this guy's house and he was freaking out because he didn't want to deal with the kid, but didn't want to end the relationship either. It is extremely important to be able to see these things before hand. If I got something serious with a woman, my horses and dogs come in Falken's package, so if you don't want horses and dogs, don't fucking buy the fucking package. Same with single mothers.

    I haven't seen this guy for ages, but last I have heard is he got rid of his troubles and is now dating somebody else. It is never late to learn from your mistakes and correct them :-)



    well he seems like someone that was blind to what he was getting into.
    i was with my on and off gf for like 13 years. i helped raise her child. i got her off the bottle and i taught her how to tie her shoes.

    the last time we were together she turned against me, and she turned the kid against me which hurt really bad. then the woman was crying when i moved out.

    total waste of my time to be with this person and i take ownership of that. i learn from all my mistakes, though.
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Thursday, September 15, 2022 20:14:03
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Sep 15 2022 05:31 pm

    Some people also have a friendly divorce and are
    still on good terms with their ex.

    they call that fuck buddies. another unhealthy thing.

    I didn't suggest anything about fucking your ex..

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  • From Charles Blackburn@VERT/FBOBBS to Nightfox on Thursday, September 15, 2022 18:58:06
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Nightfox to Moondog on Thu Sep 15 2022 12:09:21

    people. I'll go out and have fun, however the rate at which i would like things to progress are much slower. I don't get that "OMG I need her in my life" excited like when I was a teen. I think
    I got burned out long ago, and refuse to trust my feelings of what is love or lust.
    It can take time to get to know someone and know they're right for you. If you feel like you really need someone in your life right away and/or want to move in or marry them quickly, you're taking a
    gamble.

    and just to add to this... It is a gamble NOT worth taking... i've made that mistake TWICE... and gotten divorced.... TWICE... don't be like me... Spend time with them first and i dont mean for 6 months lol

    Another annoyance is I get get in a relationship so i can hear all the crazy bullshit her ex had put ther through. I guess after 20+ years it's hard to avoid talking about her ex, but I get
    tired of that shit. if they still talk with their ex,it makes me wonder if it is completely over with them?

    Unfortunately, you're going to get that... Just reinforce to them that you're not their ex and that they need to trust you... if at the end of the day they contonue comparing you to them, then they don't wann a be with you they wanna be with their ex. *cough second divorce cough*

    Some people still talk to their ex because they had children together. Or sometimes they might have had a stillborn child who they still want to remember and honor, etc.. Some people also have a
    friendly divorce and are still on good terms with their ex.

    I get the stillborn thing, and i've been lucky, never had to go through anything like that, i've still civil with my 2nd divorcee, the first one i havent spoken to since then... she was the proverbial "only got married for the kid". havent seen said kid since he was 8 (not by choice either)... that was over 10 years ago now. but out of respect for my current girlfriend i don't talk about it.

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  • From Charles Blackburn@VERT/FBOBBS to MRO on Thursday, September 15, 2022 19:00:04
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: MRO to Moondog on Thu Sep 15 2022 17:29:53

    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Thu Sep 15 2022 10:03 am

    feelings of what is love or lust.

    I mentioned this in another thread, dating in your 40's and 50's is a minefield. I think this is neither a man or woman only thing, but some get so
    this is true, however. at that age you both know what you want and it does actually make it a little easier - speaking from experience.

    you can be like that gamgee guy and marry the prostitute you and your buddies used to frequent when you were overseas in the military. they will be happy to marry and be out of that situation.
    i don't think she will keep doing the "me so horny" act once she settles in, though.

    LMAO.... i wouldn't worry... THEY ARE ALL LIKE THAT! hooker or not LOL

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Nightfox on Thursday, September 15, 2022 22:16:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Nightfox to Moondog on Thu Sep 15 2022 12:09 pm

    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Thu Sep 15 2022 10:03 am

    people. I'll go out and have fun, however the rate at which i would lik things to progress are much slower. I don't get that "OMG I need her in life" excited like when I was a teen. I think I got burned out long ago and refuse to trust my feelings of what is love or lust.

    It can take time to get to know someone and know they're right for you. If

    Another annoyance is I get get in a relationship so i can hear all the crazy bullshit her ex had put ther through. I guess after 20+ years it' hard to avoid talking about her ex, but I get tired of that shit. if th still talk with their ex,it makes me wonder if it is completely over wi them?

    Some people still talk to their ex because they had children together. Or s x.

    Nightfox

    i understand friendly divorces and communication due to shared custody. It's when you hear enough t make you feel like you're the second prize and she
    still wants her first prize.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Friday, September 16, 2022 01:11:18
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Thu Sep 15 2022 08:14 pm

    Some people also have a friendly divorce and are
    still on good terms with their ex.

    they call that fuck buddies. another unhealthy thing.

    I didn't suggest anything about fucking your ex..


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Friday, September 16, 2022 02:28:28
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Nightfox to MRO on Thu Sep 15 2022 08:14 pm

    Some people also have a friendly divorce and are
    still on good terms with their ex.

    they call that fuck buddies. another unhealthy thing.

    I didn't suggest anything about fucking your ex..

    Nightfox

    No, you didn't, but I the untold reason why the conversation has branched out down this path is precisely because there exist doubt somebody is fucking her ex XD

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  • From esc@VERT/MONTEREY to DaiTengu on Friday, September 16, 2022 13:26:00
    Incorrect, that group of drooling dipshits named themselves that.

    Yeah lol I seem to recall some dude attacked a bunch of people while saying the equivalent of "incel represent!"

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to DaiTengu on Friday, September 16, 2022 15:16:36
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: DaiTengu to MRO on Fri Sep 16 2022 09:51 am

    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Sep 14 2022 05:28 pm

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel


    that's a stupid insult liberals came up with.


    Incorrect, that group of drooling dipshits named themselves that.

    I don't think there's an actual group that gave themselves that name. apparently the internet says a woman created a website about it. who knows, it's just wikipedia. i've been around long enough and had my eyes open enough to not trust anything on the internet.

    it's just a word created by assholes to insult other assholes.

    and nobody is involuntary celebate. you can get ass anywhere.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to esc on Friday, September 16, 2022 15:49:07
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: esc to DaiTengu on Fri Sep 16 2022 01:26 pm

    Incorrect, that group of drooling dipshits named themselves that.

    Yeah lol I seem to recall some dude attacked a bunch of people while saying the equivalent of "incel represent!"

    that just sounds like trolling though.

    that being said, i've seen womans groups on facebook where these women are cut off from sex from their husbands and do man trashing.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to DaiTengu on Friday, September 16, 2022 20:33:43
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: DaiTengu to MRO on Fri Sep 16 2022 06:36 pm

    apparently the internet says a woman created a website about it. who knows, it's just wikipedia. i've been around long enough and had my eyes open enough to not trust anything on the internet.

    They did. shit, they even created their own group on reddit (r/incels) which was eventually banned when reddit started to get popular and the owners realized "oh shit, we could actually get in trouble for some of the shit people are saying on this site"


    it's just internet games and bullshit. i wouldnt pay it any attention.


    and nobody is involuntary celebate. you can get ass anywhere.

    Yeah, I was a giant, awkward nerd and I still managed to get a girlfriend, and get married. (will be 25 years in May)

    all you need to do is find a woman complaining about her husband or boyfriend. and that's not hard.

    younger people have sex quite freely. and if you're gay you can go to a monkeypox orgy session.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Saturday, September 17, 2022 09:54:00
    and nobody is involuntary celebate. you can get ass anywhere.

    Around here, if you try to get it "anywhere" you are asking for trouble.

    I agree, tho, it does sound made up.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Saturday, September 17, 2022 09:56:00
    that being said, i've seen womans groups on facebook where these women are cu
    off from sex from their husbands and do man trashing.

    Are cut off, or cut their husbands off? It is usually the latter.

    I am amazed when either partner cuts the other one off and then acts shocked when that partner start looking elsewhere to find it.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DAITENGU on Saturday, September 17, 2022 09:57:00
    It's possible "incel" was coined by someone else, but they referred to themsel
    s as "involuntarily celibate" since the 90s. I remember running into a group
    f them on IRC at one point, back when I was in high school, so that must have en '93-94 or so (some friends and I took over their IRC channel for a time. it
    as hilarious).

    I could see younger people calling themselves that.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Saturday, September 17, 2022 14:14:36
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sat Sep 17 2022 09:54 am

    and nobody is involuntary celebate. you can get ass anywhere.

    Around here, if you try to get it "anywhere" you are asking for trouble.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Saturday, September 17, 2022 14:15:30
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Sat Sep 17 2022 09:56 am

    that being said, i've seen womans groups on facebook where these women are cu
    off from sex from their husbands and do man trashing.

    Are cut off, or cut their husbands off? It is usually the latter.

    I am amazed when either partner cuts the other one off and then acts shocked when that partner start looking elsewhere to find it.


    i cut off my gf who had borderline because she was always starting drama.
    she tried to look for ass online but couldn't get anybody.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to MRO on Sunday, September 18, 2022 05:03:29
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: MRO to DaiTengu on Fri Sep 16 2022 03:16 pm

    and nobody is involuntary celebate. you can get ass anywhere.


    It is not terribly common, but there is a bunch of people who are psychologically
    emasculated. They'd had a girl but they have this mind blockade bounding them. They
    talk all day long about not being able to get laid but when you mention any of the
    available methods for achieving just that, they block and say that does not work for
    them.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Sunday, September 18, 2022 10:25:00
    and nobody is involuntary celebate. you can get ass anywhere.

    Around here, if you try to get it "anywhere" you are asking for trouble.


    where are you at right now? a day care?

    No. :) Adult women. Lots of alcoholics and drug addicts and
    emotional/mental instability. Oh, yeah, and bible-thumpers.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Sunday, September 18, 2022 13:58:38
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Arelor to MRO on Sun Sep 18 2022 05:03 am

    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: MRO to DaiTengu on Fri Sep 16 2022 03:16 pm

    and nobody is involuntary celebate. you can get ass anywhere.


    It is not terribly common, but there is a bunch of people who are psychologically emasculated. They'd had a girl but they have this mind blockade bounding them. They talk all day long about not being able to get


    there's just a lot of crazy people in the world. there's nothing that people won't do or think up.
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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Arelor on Monday, September 19, 2022 16:02:00
    Arelor wrote to bex <=-

    It sucks specially if you are a guy because society is engineered so
    guys make the upfront investment: we are supposed to look for a girl
    and impress her, and that takes resources. It is that simple.

    Interestingly enough, your clarification made you sound like *more* of an incel, not less. The classic incel believe that they are "involuntarily celibate" but are owed sex, whether it's just for being alive, or for
    having the bad luck to be short or not attractive. They go hand in had with
    the "nice guy," who believe they are owed sex because they do things like
    open doors for women, pay women compliments, do things for women, pretend
    to be a woman's friend. They're the kind who whine about the "friend zone"
    too.

    Anyway, you're reduction of human romantic relationships to a "simple" financial transaction is so close to part of the incel world that it's difficult to see the difference.


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Moondog on Monday, September 19, 2022 16:48:00
    Moondog wrote to Arelor <=-

    It's worse when you get in your 40's and 50's. One would imagine an
    older woman would be more confident, less crazy, and more independent.

    Hey now, I'm a 52 year old woman!

    That is not the case. There's nothing like a divorcee that is in a
    hurry to move in with you because she's temporarily living back home
    with her parents or a grandparent, and feels uncomfortable bringing a

    Is it possible you are painting all women by one particular woman?



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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to MRO on Monday, September 19, 2022 16:51:00
    MRO wrote to Nightfox <=-

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incel

    that's a stupid insult liberals came up with.

    I think incels exist on both sides of the political spectrum. It is incels
    themselves who coined the term and defined the core tenets of being an
    incel. No one needs to insult self-aware incels, they insult themselves.


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Arelor on Monday, September 19, 2022 16:58:00
    Arelor wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I honestly don't know how the idea that if you don't pour resources
    into things you won't get crap done can be tagged as incel, then.

    Because you are equating relationships to financial transactions, and you
    sound like you are saying that you somehow earn the interest of a potential romantic interest thruogh the use of money.

    Or is that not what you were saying?


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Arelor on Monday, September 19, 2022 17:35:00
    Arelor wrote to esc <=-

    The number of times I have had a girl make an advance on me is far
    smaller than the number of girls I have made an advancement on.

    Y'know, it could just be that you haven't met any girls that were
    interested enough to make an advance on you.

    :)

    I am not discounting your assertion that men are more likely to make
    initial contact, but I also think that it isn't true. We women do things
    like try to strike up conversations, maybe point out common interests ("I
    love that book you've got there, it was so good I read it twice"). Communication is what's important, and you don't have to spend money to communicate with a woman! If one of us likes you, meeting up in a park and chatting for a couple hours makes for a fantastic date.

    I really think you're over-thinking things, Mr. Sir.

    My friends have a similar experience.

    Of that I have absolutely no doubt.


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to MRO on Monday, September 19, 2022 17:51:00
    MRO wrote to Arelor <=-

    My friends have a similar experience.

    If one sits on his ass expecting for the girl he likes to show up and ask for a date, he is up for a disappointment.

    usually people that say they dont have problems are people who take the easy way out and date within friend groups or the workplace.

    I don't see how dating within a workplace or within a friends group is
    "taking the easy way out". I think they are just as valid as meeting
    someone at a library or a book store or at a park or online. The place
    doesn't matter - though it can lead to some embarrassing "how did you two
    meet" stories. :)


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to bex on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 13:32:07
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: bex to Arelor on Mon Sep 19 2022 04:02 pm

    Arelor wrote to bex <=-

    It sucks specially if you are a guy because society is engineered so guys make the upfront investment: we are supposed to look for a girl and impress her, and that takes resources. It is that simple.

    Interestingly enough, your clarification made you sound like *more* of an incel, not less. The classic incel believe that they are "involuntarily celibate" but are owed sex, whether it's just for being alive, or for
    having the bad luck to be short or not attractive. They go hand in had with the "nice guy," who believe they are owed sex because they do things like open doors for women, pay women compliments, do things for women, pretend
    to be a woman's friend. They're the kind who whine about the "friend zone" too.

    Anyway, you're reduction of human romantic relationships to a "simple" financial transaction is so close to part of the incel world that it's difficult to see the difference.


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    I suspect you are trying to lump me in with a group I have no affiliation with, so I
    will make it easy for you:

    People sucks and uses other people as assets.

    Women are people. Therefore they suck and use other people as assets. Just as men do.
    Big surprise.

    We humans are very good at convincing ourselves we are not using others as assets, and
    that we do stuff for love and whatever, but in the end of the day partnetships are ALL
    about getting something in exchange of something or jointly pooling resources to
    achieve results.

    People keeps idealizing human-to-human relations and getting mad when you point this
    fact at them. Then they go on using other people up and casting them aside once no
    longer useful.

    If you check prior messages you will find I have been holding this view for long and
    no longer when it comes to romantic relation ships. In fact my bigger complaints
    regarding this effect come from business relationships and regular friendships.

    But whatever.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to bex on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 13:38:46
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: bex to Arelor on Mon Sep 19 2022 04:58 pm

    Arelor wrote to Nightfox <=-

    I honestly don't know how the idea that if you don't pour resources into things you won't get crap done can be tagged as incel, then.

    Because you are equating relationships to financial transactions, and you sound like you are saying that you somehow earn the interest of a potential romantic interest thruogh the use of money.

    Or is that not what you were saying?


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    You don't necessarily earn the interest of a romantic partner, but sure as hell you
    need to use resources in order to keep it.

    Resources need not be money. They can be time or whatever have you.

    If you don't do anything with your girlfriend at all, she becomes bored with you
    (understandably). However, taking your girlfriend out needs resoures. Even if my date
    plan consists in staying at home playing boardgames and RPGs, setting such date requires me to have the finantial stability to be able to afford losing an evening
    worth of work. Achieving that finantial stability takes resources.

    Dennying what I say is akin to dennying that you can keep somebody's romantic interest
    without investing time and effort in the relationship. If that is your position then I
    have a bridge to sell to you.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to bex on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 13:40:53
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: bex to Arelor on Mon Sep 19 2022 05:35 pm

    Arelor wrote to esc <=-

    The number of times I have had a girl make an advance on me is far smaller than the number of girls I have made an advancement on.

    Y'know, it could just be that you haven't met any girls that were
    interested enough to make an advance on you.

    :)

    I am not discounting your assertion that men are more likely to make
    initial contact, but I also think that it isn't true. We women do things like try to strike up conversations, maybe point out common interests ("I love that book you've got there, it was so good I read it twice"). Communication is what's important, and you don't have to spend money to communicate with a woman! If one of us likes you, meeting up in a park and chatting for a couple hours makes for a fantastic date.

    I really think you're over-thinking things, Mr. Sir.

    My friends have a similar experience.

    Of that I have absolutely no doubt.


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    I am just not meeting people out of business scenarios, which suits me fine.

    I don't overthink. I observe.

    As said before, a cheap date in the park still uses up resources.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to bex on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 13:52:32
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: bex to Arelor on Mon Sep 19 2022 05:35 pm

    Y'know, it could just be that you haven't met any girls that were
    interested enough to make an advance on you.

    By the way, I don't deal with enough people to make for a substantial statistical
    pool, but there was an study somewhere that claimed 92 or 94% of women prefered to be
    approached and that the rest was the minority that would act on their own.

    The ones that advance themselves seem to be the "Live Dangerously and Die Young"
    variety, in my experience.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to bex on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 17:12:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: bex to Moondog on Mon Sep 19 2022 04:48 pm

    Moondog wrote to Arelor <=-

    It's worse when you get in your 40's and 50's. One would imagine an older woman would be more confident, less crazy, and more independent.

    Hey now, I'm a 52 year old woman!

    That is not the case. There's nothing like a divorcee that is in a hurry to move in with you because she's temporarily living back home with her parents or a grandparent, and feels uncomfortable bringing a

    Is it possible you are painting all women by one particular woman?



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    By no means am I painting with a wide brush. I knew several that were like this, but wouldn't call them being close to average or normal. My brother rents a room from me and right now he has a steady girlfriend. His previous two acted like they were in a hurry to move in and place their kids in the spare room we use as a workout room. When he'd tell them that is my call
    house and he can't make that call, they were pressuring him to split the rent and move somewhere else. That would be fine if this was decided over several months and they had time to see who they're getting involved with, but
    instead this was ridiculously fast.

    I know several women in their 40's and 50's who are mature, independent, do
    not play games and are in search of a relationship rather than a sucker they can wrap around their finger. Searching for a good match takes time, but
    there are some behaviors or other signs that tell you to look elsewhere. Guys
    are messed up, too. Some can be clingy, emotional wrecks needing constant affirmation and affection.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BEX on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 16:57:00
    Arelor wrote to bex <=-

    It sucks specially if you are a guy because society is engineered so guys make the upfront investment: we are supposed to look for a girl
    and impress her, and that takes resources. It is that simple.

    Anyway, you're reduction of human romantic relationships to a "simple" financial transaction is so close to part of the incel world that it's difficult to see the difference.

    I did not read it that way. I have not ever met any women who are
    impressed by someone who cannot afford to go out anywhere and do things
    with them, unless all they are looking for is "Netflix and chill." Even if
    the woman is set on paying her own way, she wants someone who can afford to
    go places with her. So it is an upfront investment (in something that
    might not work) and that does take resources.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to bex on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 19:36:07
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Arelor to bex on Tue Sep 20 2022 01:40 pm

    I am not discounting your assertion that men are more likely to make initial contact, but I also think that it isn't true. We women do things like try to strike up conversations, maybe point out common interests ("I love that book you've got there, it was so good I read it twice"). Communication is what's important, and you don't have to spend money to communicate with a woman! If one of us likes you, meeting up in a park and
    chatting for a couple hours makes for a fantastic date.

    BTW, starting a conversation is not making a move. Far from it.

    Getting close to a guy and telling him that you like that book he is reading is an
    attempt at getting him to make a move. When I want a girl I knock on her door and ask
    her out. Starting a random conversation with a man and expecting him to ask you out is
    to asking him out what phoning the police because you want them to shoot a drug dealer
    is to shooting a drug dealer down.

    I would argue that the ones having problems with communication are not usually the
    dudes. When a dude wants something with a girl, and the girl is not interested, the
    guy rarely gets a straight answer. It is always an "I am busy" or "Maybe next week" or
    some other cover-up. Granted, most guys will pick this up, but this does not count as
    good communication. At all.

    Damn, then some autistic dude takes "I am too busy to date you this week" at face
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  • From Hustler@VERT/DMINE to Arelor on Tuesday, September 20, 2022 23:19:24
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Arelor to bex on Tue Sep 20 2022 07:36 pm

    I would argue that the ones having problems with communication are not usually the dudes.
    When a dude wants something with a girl, and the girl is not interested, the guy rarely
    gets
    a straight answer. It is always an "I am busy" or "Maybe next week" or some other
    cover-up.
    Granted, most guys will pick this up, but this does not count as good communication. At
    all.

    Man, it all sounds way to exhausting to me!

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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to MRO on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 09:49:00
    MRO wrote to esc <=-

    that being said, i've seen womans groups on facebook where these women are cut off from sex from their husbands and do man trashing. ---

    "That woman's group on Facebook is just as bad" in no way makes incels
    less horrible than they are. Incels are a sad, pathetic, extremely
    frightening group of mysoginists whose anger is almost always close to the boiling point and who forever see women as "females" who are both less
    than human an unworthy of being anything but walking vaginas.

    Incels are not just a group of guys who are mad about not being able to
    find a sexual partner, they are a group of men with major mental illnesses
    that have deluded themselves into believing that the world exists only to
    mock and attack them. And unfortunately they have mobilized and some are starting to act out violently.

    Within the last few years, there was an incel in Toronto who purposefully
    drove a van down a sidewalk in a busy part of the city. He killed eleven
    people and injured like twice that many. Incel circles rejoiced! That's
    one of the main reasons that r/incel was banned, along with its attempted replacements (e.g. r/braincels).

    But don't take my word for it:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/13/toronto-van-murders-court-victim-2018-attack
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/incel-threat-secret-service-report/



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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to bex on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 16:52:25
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: bex to MRO on Wed Sep 21 2022 09:49 am

    "That woman's group on Facebook is just as bad" in no way makes incels less horrible than they are. Incels are a sad, pathetic, extremely frightening group of mysoginists whose anger is almost always close to the boiling point and who forever see women as "females" who are both less than human an unworthy of being anything but walking vaginas.

    It reminds me of what I've read of the Men Going Their Own Way movement and/or the Red Pill movement.

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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Arelor on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 21:57:00
    Arelor said to bex: <=-

    Anyway, your reduction of human romantic relationships to "simple" financial transaction is so close to part of the incel world that difficult to see the difference.

    I suspect you are trying to lump me in with a group I have no
    affiliation with, so I will make it easy for you:

    I am not saying you're an incel, just that the things that you wrote were similar to what a number of incels say. Do what you will with that.

    People sucks and uses other people as assets.

    Women are people. Therefore they suck and use other people as assets.
    Just as men do. Big surprise.

    I feel so bad for whatever you've gone through in your life that has given
    you such a dour outlook on people and society. (((hug)))

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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 22:15:00
    Dumas Walker said to Bex: <=-

    Anyway, you're reduction of human romantic relationships to a
    "simple"
    financial transaction is so close to part of the incel world that

    I did not read it that way. I have not ever met any women who are impressed by someone who cannot afford to go out anywhere and do things

    You are over-thinking this. What we want - what most anyone wants - is to
    spend time *together*. You're the one who thinks that means going out for dinner or movies or whatever else it is you are lumping into the phrase
    "go out anywhere and do things". A walk in the park is great, and doesn't
    cost anything! Sitting on a bench next to a lake and feeding ducks is free (except for the bread) and fun. And it can be quite entertaining because
    ducks are funny. (: Do you have a dog? Walking a dog together is a great
    way to get some one on one time together.

    And picnics! Browsing in a book store. Window shopping. Community
    concerts. Bird watching.

    AND those are all activities in public, which helps us to relax and not
    worry that we aren't necessarily safe. I cannot over-state how important
    that is.

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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Arelor on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 22:46:00
    Arelor said to bex: <=-

    By the way, I don't deal with enough people to make for a substantial statistical pool, but there was an study somewhere that claimed 92 or
    94% of women prefered to be approached and that the rest was the
    minority that would act on their own.

    What study was that? Link to it? That sounds more like a poll than a
    study, and it sounds more like a poll from a magazine or on social media
    than any kind of legitimate poll. How could there be anything that could encompass all women? What do you consider a typical woman? You have to
    start breaking things down along demographic categories. I can guarantee
    you that the number of women between 18-24 and 50-54 will have VASTLY
    different answers about who should make initial contact.

    Age ranges are just one category though. In the 50-54 age range, women who
    live in an urban area (like me) will have a different view than
    women in a rural area. For urbanites, those that have a job and children
    will have a different view than those who are career-focused and those who aren't working.

    The ones that advance themselves seem to be the "Live Dangerously and
    Die Young" variety, *IN MY EXPERIENCE.*

    I added even more emphasis to your most important sentence there, my
    friend. You seem to both be admitting that you are only discussing what
    you've experienced while still trying to extrapolate how things work for
    every other person in the world from your experiences. Are you familiar
    with the cave allegory?

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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Arelor on Thursday, September 22, 2022 15:21:00
    Arelor wrote to bex <=-

    First off, lemme say that my experiences and reactions are my own, and
    other women might have very different ones. I mentioned in a previous post
    that there's no such thing as a "typical woman" after all. (:

    BTW, starting a conversation is not making a move. Far from it.

    So.... to make a move, you are just going to come up to someone and say something like "Hi, you don't know me, but I wanted to see if you wanted to
    go on a date with me"? Because I've gotta tell you, that would generate an immediate "no thanks". Women want to spend some time talking, getting to
    know a person so they can see if there's shared interest there.

    Getting close to a guy and telling him that you like that book he is reading is an attempt at getting him to make a move. When I want a girl

    No, it's a way of saying "hi" and learning a little about the person. It's making a human connection. And it's a way to see if there's any hint of interest back my way.

    phoning the police because you want them to shoot a drug dealer is to shooting a drug dealer down.

    Your metaphor is so out there that I won't even acknowledge it, but this
    part made me want to ask: Isn't a person supposed to call the police and
    say "I think that person is a drug dealer, because they are always doing <insert behavior>" instead of thinking "I think that person is a drug
    dealer" and murdering them?

    You made me giggle, thank you!

    usually the dudes. When a dude wants something with a girl, and the
    girl is not interested, the guy rarely gets a straight answer. It is always an "I am busy" or "Maybe next week" or some other cover-up.

    I think there are two main reasons for this:

    1) An innate feeling of not wanting to hurt someone's feelings.
    2) The possibility of being verbally or physically assaulted after
    rejecting someone. To see how common people lashing out after being
    rejected is, spend a few minutes in r/niceguys, r/creepyPMs, etc


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BEX on Friday, September 23, 2022 16:52:00
    You are over-thinking this. What we want - what most anyone wants - is to spend time *together*. You're the one who thinks that means going out for dinner or movies or whatever else it is you are lumping into the phrase
    "go out anywhere and do things". A walk in the park is great, and doesn't cost anything! Sitting on a bench next to a lake and feeding ducks is free (except for the bread) and fun. And it can be quite entertaining because ducks are funny. (: Do you have a dog? Walking a dog together is a great
    way to get some one on one time together.

    How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak from experience. In the early days especially, doing things that don't cost money won't get you too far. Even women friends I have and am not dating want to go out to eat or
    to a movie, etc... they don't want to just hang out, in public or otherwise.

    The reality might be quite different in a relationship that has been going
    on a long time, especially one that has been made legal and is (supposedly) more difficult to disolve.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Saturday, September 24, 2022 11:10:00
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Dumas Walker to BEX on Fri Sep 23 2022 04:52 pm

    You are over-thinking this. What we want - what most anyone wants - is to spend time *together*. You're the one who thinks that means going out for dinner or movies or whatever else it is you are lumping into the phrase "go out anywhere and do things". A walk in the park is great, and doesn't cost anything! Sitting on a bench next to a lake and feeding ducks is free (except for the bread) and fun. And it can be quite entertaining because ducks are funny. (: Do you have a dog? Walking a dog together is a great way to get some one on one time together.

    How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak from experience. In the early days especially, doing things that don't cost money won't get you too far. Even women friends I have and am not dating want to go out to eat or to a movie, etc... they don't want to just hang out, in public or otherwise.

    The reality might be quite different in a relationship that has been going on a long time, especially one that has been made legal and is (supposedly) more difficult to disolve.


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    Everyone is different, and people who like the outdoors and do not need to spend money to have fun exist. You can always ask. The worst thing they can say is no. Nearly every town or cuty I've been to has a park or multiple parks, ponds, walking trails, or nature preserves outside of town. One of my favorite places is a nature preserve with trails through a wetland. They
    have boardwalks and elevated platforms for bird watching, photography, or just
    chilling in the middle of nowhere. Rarely are there crowds in wildlife preserves. You might see an occasional geo-cacher with a gps looking for caches.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to bex on Sunday, September 25, 2022 06:38:42
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: bex to Arelor on Wed Sep 21 2022 10:46 pm

    By the way, I don't deal with enough people to make for a substantial statistical pool, but there was an study somewhere that claimed 92 or 94% of women prefered to be approached and that the rest was the minority that would act on their own.

    What study was that? Link to it? That sounds more like a poll than a
    study, and it sounds more like a poll from a magazine or on social media

    I don't think it is available online. There was a presentation of it at the Western Psychological Associations meeting in 2011 I think.

    For something more informal, you have this: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-how-and-why-sex-differences/201104/ why-dont-women-ask-men-out-first-dates



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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to bex on Sunday, September 25, 2022 06:41:52
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: bex to Arelor on Wed Sep 21 2022 10:46 pm

    I added even more emphasis to your most important sentence there, my
    friend. You seem to both be admitting that you are only discussing what you've experienced while still trying to extrapolate how things work for every other person in the world from your experiences. Are you familiar
    with the cave allegory?

    Actually it is the other way around. I hear what other people says, read what they write, and then compare it with my own experience and see it adds up.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to bex on Sunday, September 25, 2022 06:57:05
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: bex to Arelor on Thu Sep 22 2022 03:21 pm

    Arelor wrote to bex <=-

    First off, lemme say that my experiences and reactions are my own, and
    other women might have very different ones. I mentioned in a previous post that there's no such thing as a "typical woman" after all. (:

    BTW, starting a conversation is not making a move. Far from it.

    So.... to make a move, you are just going to come up to someone and say something like "Hi, you don't know me, but I wanted to see if you wanted to go on a date with me"? Because I've gotta tell you, that would generate an immediate "no thanks". Women want to spend some time talking, getting to know a person so they can see if there's shared interest there.

    Getting close to a guy and telling him that you like that book he is reading is an attempt at getting him to make a move. When I want a girl

    No, it's a way of saying "hi" and learning a little about the person. It's making a human connection. And it's a way to see if there's any hint of interest back my way.

    phoning the police because you want them to shoot a drug dealer is to shooting a drug dealer down.

    Your metaphor is so out there that I won't even acknowledge it, but this part made me want to ask: Isn't a person supposed to call the police and
    say "I think that person is a drug dealer, because they are always doing <insert behavior>" instead of thinking "I think that person is a drug dealer" and murdering them?

    You made me giggle, thank you!

    usually the dudes. When a dude wants something with a girl, and the girl is not interested, the guy rarely gets a straight answer. It is always an "I am busy" or "Maybe next week" or some other cover-up.

    I think there are two main reasons for this:

    1) An innate feeling of not wanting to hurt someone's feelings.
    2) The possibility of being verbally or physically assaulted after
    rejecting someone. To see how common people lashing out after being
    rejected is, spend a few minutes in r/niceguys, r/creepyPMs, etc


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    I bet some people can pop up out of the blue in front of a girl and ask her out right away, and get a result. I don't think it is common either. That is absolutely not what I am talking about. For the record: the experiment has been done informally with both men to women and women to men, the experiments are recorded, and results are hillarious.

    No, what I am talking about is what the Psychology today article I have just mentioned describes as Risky Initiatives. Women's way of grabbing a man is trying to give cues that they are available, but they don't take any risk or communicate their intentions outright. They act like one of my mares: she is afraid her barn companion will punish her if she asks me for pats, so what she does instead is keeping her distance and following me from afar, with the hope that I will notice she is there and may want to walk up to her and pet her. (Meanwhile, when the other ones wants pats, she outright walks towards me and kisses my face all over).

    BTW I both oppose the war on drugs and think that begging the administration to do something is just a way of getting something done, rejecting the responsibility that comes from the action. Just like trying to show you are available for dating without making an explicit move towards that goal: if it does not work out, you can avoid any backslash because you were not exposed to it to begin with.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Sunday, September 25, 2022 09:23:00
    Everyone is different, and people who like the outdoors and do not need to spend money to have fun exist. You can always ask. The worst thing they can say is no. Nearly every town or cuty I've been to has a park or multiple parks, ponds, walking trails, or nature preserves outside of town. One of my favorite places is a nature preserve with trails through a wetland. They have boardwalks and elevated platforms for bird watching, photography, or just
    chilling in the middle of nowhere. Rarely are there crowds in wildlife preserves. You might see an occasional geo-cacher with a gps looking for caches.

    Mine has enough of those, too, but you have to spend money to get there,
    which was my point.


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Nightfox on Friday, September 23, 2022 15:01:00
    Nightfox wrote to bex <=-

    less horrible than they are. Incels are a sad, pathetic, extremely frightening group of mysoginists whose anger is almost always close to the boiling point and who forever see women as "females" who are both less than human an unworthy of being anything but walking vaginas.

    It reminds me of what I've read of the Men Going Their Own Way movement and/or the Red Pill movement.

    :O There are more groups like that? *shudder*


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Sunday, September 25, 2022 16:11:00
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Sun Sep 25 2022 09:23 am

    Everyone is different, and people who like the outdoors and do not need to spend money to have fun exist. You can always ask. The worst thing they say is no. Nearly every town or cuty I've been to has a park or multiple parks, ponds, walking trails, or nature preserves outside of town. One of favorite places is a nature preserve with trails through a wetland. They have boardwalks and elevated platforms for bird watching, photography, or
    chilling in the middle of nowhere. Rarely are there crowds in wildlife preserves. You might see an occasional geo-cacher with a gps looking for caches.

    Mine has enough of those, too, but you have to spend money to get there, which was my point.


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    Everything in life is somewhere else. Does your date live in walking
    distance from you? Do you both have bicycles? Skates? A home cooked dinner sounds cool, but that means going to a store and spending money on food.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sunday, September 25, 2022 19:48:05
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Sun Sep 25 2022 09:23 am

    chilling in the middle of nowhere. Rarely are there crowds in wildlife preserves. You might see an occasional geo-cacher with a gps looking for caches.

    Mine has enough of those, too, but you have to spend money to get there, which was my point.

    remember when there was a serial killer out there in the parks? i wonder what happened with that.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Monday, September 26, 2022 08:08:00
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Sun Sep 25 2022 07:48 pm

    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Sun Sep 25 2022 09:23 am

    chilling in the middle of nowhere. Rarely are there crowds in wildlif preserves. You might see an occasional geo-cacher with a gps looking f caches.

    Mine has enough of those, too, but you have to spend money to get there, which was my point.

    remember when there was a serial killer out there in the parks? i wonder wha

    Refuse to be a victim. Places known for criminal behavior should be avoided.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Moondog on Monday, September 26, 2022 15:47:17
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Sep 26 2022 08:08 am

    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Sun Sep 25 2022 07:48 pm

    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Sun Sep 25 2022 09:23 am

    chilling in the middle of nowhere. Rarely are there crowds in wildlif preserves. You might see an occasional geo-cacher with a gps looking f caches.

    Mine has enough of those, too, but you have to spend money to get there, which was my point.

    remember when there was a serial killer out there in the parks? i wonder wha

    Refuse to be a victim. Places known for criminal behavior should be avoided.

    https://nypost.com/2020/07/04/why-hundreds-of-people-vanish-into-the-american-wilderness/

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Monday, September 26, 2022 16:43:00
    Everything in life is somewhere else. Does your date live in walking distance from you? Do you both have bicycles? Skates? A home cooked dinner sounds cool, but that means going to a store and spending money on food.

    That was my point. It was someone else's point that things are free that really are not.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Monday, September 26, 2022 16:45:00
    Mine has enough of those, too, but you have to spend money to get there, which was my point.

    remember when there was a serial killer out there in the parks? i wonder what ppened with that.

    Which parks was that? The local ones all have homeless people, if you
    arrive at the wrong times (including some daylight hours).


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Monday, September 26, 2022 20:44:48
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Mon Sep 26 2022 04:45 pm

    Mine has enough of those, too, but you have to spend money to get there, which was my point.

    remember when there was a serial killer out there in the parks? i wonder what ppened with that.

    Which parks was that? The local ones all have homeless people, if you arrive at the wrong times (including some daylight hours).


    i posted a link. i think it's the natural forests.
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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Dumas Walker on Monday, September 26, 2022 08:18:00
    Dumas Walker wrote to BEX <=-

    How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free
    teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak from

    I own *two* free transportation devices, I call them my legs.

    money won't get you too far. Even women friends I have and am not
    dating want to go out to eat or to a movie, etc... they don't want to
    just hang out, in public or otherwise.

    My girlfriends say that your women friends are full of bull. The important thing is meeting somewhere in public and spending time together.

    But it's also up to choosing what makes you most comfortable. That's done really well for you so far, right? ;) j/k


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Arelor on Monday, September 26, 2022 08:30:00
    Arelor wrote to bex <=-

    What study was that? Link to it? That sounds more like a poll than a
    study, and it sounds more like a poll from a magazine or on social media

    I don't think it is available online. There was a presentation of it at the Western Psychological Associations meeting in 2011 I think.

    For something more informal, you have this: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-how-and-why-sex-differences/ 201104/
    why-dont-women-ask-men-out-first-dates

    Thanks! That was an interesting read. The one question I would have about
    it would be their sample - college-aged women they found on campus - but
    the points that Mills made are thought provoking.


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Arelor on Monday, September 26, 2022 08:35:00
    Arelor wrote to bex <=-

    take any risk or communicate their intentions outright. They act like
    one of my mares: she is afraid her barn companion will punish her if
    she asks me for pats, so what she does instead is keeping her distance

    :O

    You didn't really just write that, did you? Comparing - in any way, metaphorically, philosophically, trolling - women to mares?

    Sir, I will *not* continue a conversation after that statement.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to bex on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 12:23:10
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: bex to Arelor on Mon Sep 26 2022 08:35 am

    Arelor wrote to bex <=-

    take any risk or communicate their intentions outright. They act like one of my mares: she is afraid her barn companion will punish her if she asks me for pats, so what she does instead is keeping her distance

    :O

    You didn't really just write that, did you? Comparing - in any way, metaphorically, philosophically, trolling - women to mares?

    Sir, I will *not* continue a conversation after that statement.


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    If women were more like horses, they would be so much more interesting to
    hang around. Not to mention safer.


    Not to mention more cute and cuddly.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 09:50:00
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Mon Sep 26 2022 08:44 pm

    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Mon Sep 26 2022 04:45 pm

    Mine has enough of those, too, but you have to spend money to get there, which was my point.

    remember when there was a serial killer out there in the parks? i wonde what ppened with that.

    Which parks was that? The local ones all have homeless people, if you arrive at the wrong times (including some daylight hours).


    i posted a link. i think it's the natural forests.

    Appalachan Trail has been know for human predator types. There are also several emotionally vulnerable types that lost a friend or family member, and hope to find solace on the trail.

    A former co-worker told me of this guest speaker they had at the hiking group she belonged to. The guest speaker had a disease that took partial use of
    her legs, and she volunteered to work with a company that was testing an exoskeleton that would help people who couldn't walk on their own. She
    walked 700 miles of the trail, but there were spots where the frame used more power. She would either have to crawl or get to spot with good sunlight to charge batteries enough to get to a town or weather shelter to charge batteries.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BEX on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 17:04:00
    How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak from

    I own *two* free transportation devices, I call them my legs.

    How far are you willing to walk?


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 19:07:00
    Which parks was that? The local ones all have homeless people, if you arrive at the wrong times (including some daylight hours).


    i posted a link. i think it's the natural forests.

    Thanks, I saw that today. Spooky!


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ARELOR on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 19:09:00
    If women were more like horses, they would be so much more interesting to hang around. Not to mention safer.


    Not to mention more cute and cuddly.

    Not real sure where the comparison to horses is offensive (at least, in
    this case), either. Maybe that is because I live in Kentucky where many
    people (male and female) regard their horses much more highly than their
    fellow humans.


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 21:15:00
    Dumas Walker wrote to ARELOR <=-

    If women were more like horses, they would be so much more interesting to hang around. Not to mention safer.

    Not to mention more cute and cuddly.

    Not real sure where the comparison to horses is offensive (at
    least, in this case), either. Maybe that is because I live in
    Kentucky where many people (male and female) regard their horses
    much more highly than their fellow humans.

    It isn't offensive to most, just to the "woke" types.

    I regard my dogs much more highly than most humans. ;-)



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 22:19:12
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Tue Sep 27 2022 07:07 pm

    Which parks was that? The local ones all have homeless people, if you arrive at the wrong times (including some daylight hours).


    i posted a link. i think it's the natural forests.

    Thanks, I saw that today. Spooky!

    there's also a conspiracy about a 'smiley face killer'

    it's said that he pushes drunk college guys pissing into cold waterways and they drown. they call it the smiley face killer because at these locations they've seen the same smiley face spray painted where it happened. there was a police detective that came up with this hypothesis but they didn't believe him.
    i know shit happens but there's also some impulsive crazies that get off my pushing people into trains and shit.

    there certainly could be someone who is a serial killer (3 or more killings) and kills people this way. it gets blamed as an accident. it's easy to walk up and push someone and then walk away.

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  • From esc@VERT/MONTEREY to Gamgee on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 21:09:00
    I regard my dogs much more highly than most humans. ;-)

    As do I! Well, in general, dogs are better than people IMO. And I'm woke as a mfer.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to esc on Wednesday, September 28, 2022 08:21:00
    esc wrote to Gamgee <=-

    I regard my dogs much more highly than most humans. ;-)

    As do I! Well, in general, dogs are better than people IMO.

    No doubt about that!

    And I'm woke as a mfer.

    Well, you are in Kalifornia, so that's to be expected. :-)

    But... my comment before (which you snipped for some reason), regarding
    "woke" was how easily people like that are offended. It had nothing to
    do with the value of dogs vs humans.

    Excessive context snipping really doesn't help the flow of
    communication.



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  • From esc@VERT/MONTEREY to Gamgee on Wednesday, September 28, 2022 09:09:00
    Well, you are in Kalifornia, so that's to be expected. :-)

    Ha! Yeah, it's funny, we are on a road trip and as soon as you get away from the populated areas, California has a completely different feel. I think people forget how big this state is and how diverse of a population that can make.

    But... my comment before (which you snipped for some reason), regarding "woke" was how easily people like that are offended. It had nothing to do with the value of dogs vs humans.

    I know, I was trying to be funny ;)

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Wednesday, September 28, 2022 16:45:00
    there's also a conspiracy about a 'smiley face killer'

    There was a TV show several years ago... I think it was called "The Mentalist"... where the chief antagonist was a killer who left smiley
    faces, usually painted in red, at the scenes of all of his murders.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, September 28, 2022 20:13:32
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Sep 28 2022 04:45 pm

    there's also a conspiracy about a 'smiley face killer'

    There was a TV show several years ago... I think it was called "The Mentalist"... where the chief antagonist was a killer who left smiley
    faces, usually painted in red, at the scenes of all of his murders.

    they probably picked it off of the headlines.
    what i'm talking about is a real case and they thought the detective was nuts because he mentioned the spray paintings.

    i really think there is a pusher out there, or multiple ones.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to MRO on Thursday, September 29, 2022 09:44:00
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: MRO to Dumas Walker on Wed Sep 28 2022 08:13 pm

    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Wed Sep 28 2022 04:45 pm

    there's also a conspiracy about a 'smiley face killer'

    There was a TV show several years ago... I think it was called "The Mentalist"... where the chief antagonist was a killer who left smiley faces, usually painted in red, at the scenes of all of his murders.

    they probably picked it off of the headlines.
    what i'm talking about is a real case and they thought the detective was nut because he mentioned the spray paintings.

    i really think there is a pusher out there, or multiple ones.


    Jack Webbs three TV series he produced, Dragnet, Adam-12, and Emergency all so urced their story lines from real police departments. IIRC Dragnet and Adam-12's stories were all LAPD, and Emergency sourced theirs from all over th e US. Several of the extra firefighters on Emergency were real LA County firefighters, and the dispatcher was voiced by the real county dispatcher.
    The county fire chief was the actual county fire chief.

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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Arelor on Thursday, September 29, 2022 10:17:00
    Arelor wrote to bex <=-

    If women were more like horses, they would be so much more interesting
    to hang around. Not to mention safer.

    Damn, my twit list is filling up today...

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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Dumas Walker on Thursday, September 29, 2022 10:20:00
    Dumas Walker wrote to BEX <=-

    How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak from

    I own *two* free transportation devices, I call them my legs.

    Hey now, we're talking about your situation here, not mine. But since you asked, in my youth I would've walked a half-hour each way and called that a gentle strolle. Now that I'm old, 15 minutes each way is a hell of a hike.
    :O


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Thursday, September 29, 2022 16:34:00
    There was a TV show several years ago... I think it was called "The Mentalist"... where the chief antagonist was a killer who left smiley faces, usually painted in red, at the scenes of all of his murders.

    they probably picked it off of the headlines.
    what i'm talking about is a real case and they thought the detective was nuts because he mentioned the spray paintings.

    Or someone who saw the show is immitating the paintings at their own crime scenes. People are sick so I don't doubt there could be a link between the crime scene paintings and the same killer(s).


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Thursday, September 29, 2022 20:54:01
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Thu Sep 29 2022 04:34 pm

    they probably picked it off of the headlines.
    what i'm talking about is a real case and they thought the detective was nuts because he mentioned the spray paintings.

    Or someone who saw the show is immitating the paintings at their own crime scenes. People are sick so I don't doubt there could be a link between the crime scene paintings and the same killer(s).


    no, that was out of sequence time wise.

    the actual thing happened first.
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to esc on Thursday, September 29, 2022 06:58:00
    esc wrote to Gamgee <=-

    Ha! Yeah, it's funny, we are on a road trip and as soon as you get away from the populated areas, California has a completely different feel. I think people forget how big this state is and how diverse of a
    population that can make.

    I've seen swastikas on front doors, confederate flags, TRUMP 2024 banners, people protesting vaccines on overpasses, people in trucks acting like
    idiots towards Prius drivers. and trucks blocking Tesla charging stations.

    You're right, you don't have to go far.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to bex on Friday, September 30, 2022 09:55:27
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: bex to Arelor on Thu Sep 29 2022 10:17 am

    Arelor wrote to bex <=-

    If women were more like horses, they would be so much more interesting to hang around. Not to mention safer.

    Damn, my twit list is filling up today...


    No horse has ever added somebody to a BBS Twit filter because that person said something the horse didn't want to hear.

    Point for the horses.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to bex on Friday, September 30, 2022 12:28:00
    Re: Re: Spending time vs mone
    By: bex to Dumas Walker on Thu Sep 29 2022 10:20 am

    Dumas Walker wrote to BEX <=-

    How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak from

    I own *two* free transportation devices, I call them my legs.

    Hey now, we're talking about your situation here, not mine. But since you asked, in my youth I would've walked a half-hour each way and called that a gentle strolle. Now that I'm old, 15 minutes each way is a hell of a hike. :O


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    The most I walk these days is around a big box store or a shopping center. Last month I went to the county fair, and which covers 160 acres comprised o f buildings rides, and exhibits. About half of that is parking, but it is still quite a haul walking through building after building, up and down the fairway, and through the food vendors and commercial exhibits. If you go
    there when there's no shuttle from the parking lot, you can walk a half mile from the parking lot to the barns. i was never what I call in shape as a kid but i could walk several laps around the grounds with my friends back in
    my teens.

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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANT to Arelor on Friday, September 30, 2022 14:17:00
    Arelor wrote to bex <=-

    Arelor wrote to bex <=-

    If women were more like horses, they would be so much more interesting to hang around. Not to mention safer.

    Damn, my twit list is filling up today...

    No horse has ever added somebody to a BBS Twit filter because
    that person said something the horse didn't want to hear.

    Point for the horses.

    I'd call it: Game, Set, and Match to the horses.



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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, September 30, 2022 16:40:06
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to esc on Thu Sep 29 2022 06:58 am

    I've seen swastikas on front doors,


    bullshit. you are a fucking liar


    people in trucks acting like
    idiots towards Prius drivers.

    that's only because prius drivers are douchebags.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BEX on Friday, September 30, 2022 16:28:00
    How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak from

    I own *two* free transportation devices, I call them my legs.

    Hey now, we're talking about your situation here, not mine. But since you asked, in my youth I would've walked a half-hour each way and called that a gentle strolle. Now that I'm old, 15 minutes each way is a hell of a hike.
    :O

    We really were not talking about my situation, either. Originally, I was only pointing out that someone else was correct when they said that it takes money to date someone and keep them interested.

    Reason I asked you is because (1) I think you are slightly younger than I
    am (and therefore younger than women my age), and (2) I was pretty certain
    that I live farther away from all these wonderful, walkable free things than the distance you'd be willing to walk.

    There is one park that I might be able to get to from here in 15 minutes walking, if I am able to catch the traffic at a major highway intersection
    just right. That is also the park where the junkies hang out, which does
    not tick you "safety" box. Plus, if I had someone with me, it'd take
    longer than 15 minutes.

    Any of this other wonderful free stuff is not within "free travel" distance
    for anyone who might be walking with me (although some of it would be in walking distance for me... 30 minutes one way is nothing unless it is
    Summer).


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Friday, September 30, 2022 16:49:00
    they probably picked it off of the headlines.
    what i'm talking about is a real case and they thought the detective was nuts because he mentioned the spray paintings.

    Or someone who saw the show is immitating the paintings at their own crime scenes. People are sick so I don't doubt there could be a link between the
    crime scene paintings and the same killer(s).


    no, that was out of sequence time wise.

    the actual thing happened first.

    So this smiley face drunk-drowner thing happened before 2008? I thought it
    was more recent than that but if it was before 2008 you are correct.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Friday, September 30, 2022 16:35:00
    Jack Webbs three TV series he produced, Dragnet, Adam-12, and Emergency all so
    urced their story lines from real police departments. IIRC Dragnet and Adam-12's stories were all LAPD, and Emergency sourced theirs from all over th
    e US. Several of the extra firefighters on Emergency were real LA County firefighters, and the dispatcher was voiced by the real county dispatcher.

    IIRC, the dispatcher on Adam-12 was also a real one.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Friday, September 30, 2022 16:40:00
    I've seen swastikas on front doors, confederate flags, TRUMP 2024 banners, people protesting vaccines on overpasses, people in trucks acting like
    idiots towards Prius drivers. and trucks blocking Tesla charging stations.

    You're right, you don't have to go far.

    "They" tell us that this kind of things only happens in "the South" but I
    have never seen any of those things aside from Confederate flags (which I
    have not seen lately) and Trump banners. I have not seen anything else
    like the rest of those things.

    So maybe when they say "the South" they are confused and mean California?


    * SLMR 2.1a * I before E except after C, huh? Weird.....

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ARELOR on Friday, September 30, 2022 16:41:00
    Damn, my twit list is filling up today...

    No horse has ever added somebody to a BBS Twit filter because that person said
    something the horse didn't want to hear.

    Point for the horses.

    Yes. I'd not blame her if you'd cursed her or something, but you didn't so
    I thought it was a little harsh.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Saturday, October 01, 2022 14:21:26
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Fri Sep 30 2022 04:49 pm


    the actual thing happened first.

    So this smiley face drunk-drowner thing happened before 2008? I thought it was more recent than that but if it was before 2008 you are correct.


    not sure information does go missing over time even on the internet. i think it's before 2008. 2008 doesnt seem like a long time away for me.

    the smiley face thing just might be something the detective though was related but wasnt. i think there are certainly people pushing people into cold water early in the morning for the rush.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Saturday, October 01, 2022 14:23:01
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Dumas Walker to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Fri Sep 30 2022 04:40 pm


    "They" tell us that this kind of things only happens in "the South" but I have never seen any of those things aside from Confederate flags (which I have not seen lately) and Trump banners. I have not seen anything else
    like the rest of those things.

    So maybe when they say "the South" they are confused and mean California?


    usually when there's something like this in the news, if you follow up on it , it ends up being some liberal college kid trying to fuel their cause with something. the bad guy isn't doing anything so they have to make the evidence.

    especially when there's swastikas and nooses.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Saturday, October 01, 2022 14:23:38
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Dumas Walker to ARELOR on Fri Sep 30 2022 04:41 pm

    Damn, my twit list is filling up today...

    No horse has ever added somebody to a BBS Twit filter because that person said
    something the horse didn't want to hear.

    Point for the horses.

    i hope whoever it was added me to the twit filter.
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  • From Brokenmind@VERT/TIABBS to Moondog on Saturday, October 01, 2022 07:56:50
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Sep 29 2022 09:44 am

    Jack Webbs three TV series he produced, Dragnet, Adam-12, and Emergency all so urced their story lines from real police departments. IIRC Dragnet and Adam-12's stories were all LAPD, and Emergency sourced theirs from all over th e US. Several of the extra firefighters on Emergency were real LA County firefighters, and the dispatcher was voiced by the real county dispatcher. The county fire chief was the actual county fire chief.

    Emergency was my favorite tv show growing up and I actually was a firefighter for 12 years before I was unable to countiune to serve due to injury. I did not know the dispatchers voice was the real actual voice and that the county fire chief was real but i was aware that a few of the firefighters were actually firefighters in real life. My son was also a firefightr and my daughter is an EMT and just went back to school to get her RN.

    BrokenMind

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Sunday, October 02, 2022 10:12:00
    Re: Re: Spending time vs mone
    By: Dumas Walker to BEX on Fri Sep 30 2022 04:28 pm


    How do you get to the park, or the lake? Do you own a free teleportation device? I am not overthinking anything. I speak fr

    I own *two* free transportation devices, I call them my legs.

    Hey now, we're talking about your situation here, not mine. But since you asked, in my youth I would've walked a half-hour each way and called that gentle strolle. Now that I'm old, 15 minutes each way is a hell of a hike. :O

    We really were not talking about my situation, either. Originally, I was on pointing out that someone else was correct when they said that it takes mone to date someone and keep them interested.

    Reason I asked you is because (1) I think you are slightly younger than I
    am (and therefore younger than women my age), and (2) I was pretty certain that I live farther away from all these wonderful, walkable free things than the distance you'd be willing to walk.

    There is one park that I might be able to get to from here in 15 minutes walking, if I am able to catch the traffic at a major highway intersection just right. That is also the park where the junkies hang out, which does not tick you "safety" box. Plus, if I had someone with me, it'd take
    longer than 15 minutes.

    Any of this other wonderful free stuff is not within "free travel" distance for anyone who might be walking with me (although some of it would be in walking distance for me... 30 minutes one way is nothing unless it is Summer).


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    Ok, in most cases there is nothing completely free, because even a stay at home dinner date will require the cost of electricity, cost of water and
    other utilities. Add to that the cost of soap, shampoo and clothing, and the cost of food and drink.

    Cost of travel may just be a given, and required element in most cases to socialize, unless you meet someone who is cool enough to drive everywhere.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Sunday, October 02, 2022 10:34:00
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Fri Sep 30 2022 04:35 pm

    Jack Webbs three TV series he produced, Dragnet, Adam-12, and Emergency al urced their story lines from real police departments. IIRC Dragnet and Adam-12's stories were all LAPD, and Emergency sourced theirs from all ove e US. Several of the extra firefighters on Emergency were real LA County firefighters, and the dispatcher was voiced by the real county dispatcher.

    IIRC, the dispatcher on Adam-12 was also a real one.


    * SLMR 2.1a * Hell is full. The damned are now in Tech Support.

    It doesn't surprise me. Jack Webb had donated enough money to the LAPD over the years it paid for a building at the police academy. The actual police aca demy makes an appearance in the opening credits of the 70's Charlies Angels
    TV series.

    It was interesting that the three Jack Webb series were all spinoffs, and
    took place in the same TV universe. There was an episode of Adam-12 where
    they had to spend a day or two doing airport security, and that story felt
    like a possible spinoff. There was also talk of one of the paramedics
    leaving LA and becoming a park ranger. that would've been the springboard
    for another series.

    I have one nitpick about Adam 12. Their radio ID was 1 Adam 12. The number
    1 designates precinct or patrol area, Adam is the police phonetic for a 2 man patrol car, and 12 tells them apart from the other patrol cars. Precinct 1
    was downtown LA, and Precinct 2 was west of downtown, also known as Rampart.

    Adam 12 operated out of the Rampart station on the series (show was filmed in west LA county) so technically their radio callsign should be 2 Adam 12

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Sunday, October 02, 2022 10:37:00
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Dumas Walker to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Fri Sep 30 2022 04:40 pm

    I've seen swastikas on front doors, confederate flags, TRUMP 2024 banners, people protesting vaccines on overpasses, people in trucks acting like idiots towards Prius drivers. and trucks blocking Tesla charging stations.

    You're right, you don't have to go far.

    "They" tell us that this kind of things only happens in "the South" but I have never seen any of those things aside from Confederate flags (which I have not seen lately) and Trump banners. I have not seen anything else
    like the rest of those things.

    So maybe when they say "the South" they are confused and mean California?


    * SLMR 2.1a * I before E except after C, huh? Weird.....


    You can find those behaviors anywhere in varying degrees. In some places you don't have to look as hard.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Monday, October 03, 2022 16:21:00
    the smiley face thing just might be something the detective though was related
    ut wasnt. i think there are certainly people pushing people into cold water ea
    y in the morning for the rush.

    There seem to be people out there who are pretty sick, so pushing drunks
    into the water wouldn't be much of a stretch of the imagination.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Monday, October 03, 2022 16:16:00
    Damn, my twit list is filling up today...

    No horse has ever added somebody to a BBS Twit filter because that person
    said
    something the horse didn't want to hear.

    Point for the horses.

    i hope whoever it was added me to the twit filter.

    Their puny twit filter will be no match for the mighty MRO bot-net! :D


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Monday, October 03, 2022 16:20:00
    It was interesting that the three Jack Webb series were all spinoffs, and took place in the same TV universe. There was an episode of Adam-12 where they had to spend a day or two doing airport security, and that story felt like a possible spinoff. There was also talk of one of the paramedics leaving LA and becoming a park ranger. that would've been the springboard for another series.

    If they were all spinoffs, what series did the first one spinoff from? I
    think I vaguely remember hearing about a possible plan regarding one
    leaving to become a ranger.

    I have one nitpick about Adam 12. Their radio ID was 1 Adam 12. The number 1 designates precinct or patrol area, Adam is the police phonetic for a 2 man patrol car, and 12 tells them apart from the other patrol cars. Precinct 1 was downtown LA, and Precinct 2 was west of downtown, also known as Rampart.

    Adam 12 operated out of the Rampart station on the series (show was filmed in west LA county) so technically their radio callsign should be 2 Adam 12

    Wow, you really know your stuff! :) I didn't know that but now that I do
    it will bother me also! :D


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Monday, October 03, 2022 16:21:00
    You can find those behaviors anywhere in varying degrees. In some places you don't have to look as hard.

    I agree on both counts. Having lived all my life in this area, I sometimes
    get tired of certain stereotypes.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Monday, October 03, 2022 21:25:14
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Mon Oct 03 2022 04:16 pm

    Damn, my twit list is filling up today...

    No horse has ever added somebody to a BBS Twit filter because that person
    said
    something the horse didn't want to hear.

    Point for the horses.

    i hope whoever it was added me to the twit filter.

    Their puny twit filter will be no match for the mighty MRO bot-net! :D

    i think only nelgin and poindexter have me in their twitlist.
    so sad ;[

    i should go on their bbs and post and they will wonder why they can see me.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, October 04, 2022 14:40:00
    Re: Jack Webb TV shows
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Mon Oct 03 2022 04:20 pm

    It was interesting that the three Jack Webb series were all spinoffs, and took place in the same TV universe. There was an episode of Adam-12 where they had to spend a day or two doing airport security, and that story felt like a possible spinoff. There was also talk of one of the paramedics leaving LA and becoming a park ranger. that would've been the springboard for another series.

    If they were all spinoffs, what series did the first one spinoff from? I think I vaguely remember hearing about a possible plan regarding one
    leaving to become a ranger.

    I have one nitpick about Adam 12. Their radio ID was 1 Adam 12. The numb 1 designates precinct or patrol area, Adam is the police phonetic for a 2 patrol car, and 12 tells them apart from the other patrol cars. Precinct was downtown LA, and Precinct 2 was west of downtown, also known as Rampar

    Adam 12 operated out of the Rampart station on the series (show was filmed west LA county) so technically their radio callsign should be 2 Adam 12

    Wow, you really know your stuff! :) I didn't know that but now that I do it will bother me also! :D


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    I worded that wrong. Dragnet was first, an Adam 12 and Emergency were spinoffs.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to esc on Tuesday, October 04, 2022 16:19:42
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: esc to MRO on Tue Oct 04 2022 02:08 am

    i think only nelgin and poindexter have me in their twitlist.

    I don't have anyone in my twitlist, but I'm sure I am in a few ;)

    On a side note, I noticed once I gave up alcohol, I seemingly gave up getting in heated online debates. Maybe these are connected.

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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Moondog on Tuesday, October 04, 2022 10:54:00
    Moondog wrote to bex <=-

    center. Last month I went to the county fair, and which covers 160
    acres comprised o f buildings rides, and exhibits. About half of that

    Y'know, I haven't been to a county fair since... wow, I can't even really remember! Not since my kiddos were all in single-digit ages (they are now
    18, 16 and 14). I know what I want to do now!

    is parking, but it is still quite a haul walking through building after building, up and down the fairway, and through the food vendors and

    I am once again envious of you! Did you have a good time, aside from all
    the walking?


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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to poindexter FORTRAN on Wednesday, October 05, 2022 13:29:00
    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to esc <=-

    I've seen swastikas on front doors, confederate flags, TRUMP 2024
    banners, people protesting vaccines on overpasses, people in trucks
    acting like idiots towards Prius drivers. and trucks blocking Tesla charging stations.

    You're right, you don't have to go far.

    *sigh* It's even sadder because it is so true. :(


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Wednesday, October 05, 2022 16:17:00
    I worded that wrong. Dragnet was first, an Adam 12 and Emergency were spinoff

    Before my work schedule got messed up again (post-COVID), I would usually
    be sitting down to breakfast while Dragnet was on. If it looked like it
    was going to be one about hippies, I knew it was going to be a good one and would hit REC. :)


    * SLMR 2.1a * Football players do it after they are blitzed.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Brokenmind on Tuesday, October 04, 2022 07:04:00
    Brokenmind wrote to Moondog <=-

    Emergency was my favorite tv show growing up and I actually was a firefighter for 12 years before I was unable to countiune to serve due
    to injury. I did not know the dispatchers voice was the real actual
    voice and that the county fire chief was real but i was aware that a
    few of the firefighters were actually firefighters in real life.


    Ask anyone who grew up in the 70s what the beep pattern for Squad 51, and they'll probably be able to mimic it.

    What I didn't know was that there was some PR element to the show. LA was
    part of a pilot program for fire departments to have EMTs driving alongside the traditional fire crews, and the tele-health units that transmitted vital signs to the hospital was new tech. The show was intended to show both off.




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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, October 04, 2022 07:46:00
    Dumas Walker wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-

    "They" tell us that this kind of things only happens in "the South" but
    I have never seen any of those things aside from Confederate flags
    (which I have not seen lately) and Trump banners. I have not seen anything else like the rest of those things.

    So maybe when they say "the South" they are confused and mean
    California?

    Not sure who "they" are, but anyone who can interpret a presidential
    election results map filtered down to county could tell you that it's not a state/state, it's urban/rural.

    Overlay a presidential election map on top of a satellite photo of the US at night some time. Where there's light, they vote Democrat.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Moondog on Tuesday, October 04, 2022 09:06:00
    Moondog wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    and that story felt like a possible spinoff. There was also talk of
    one of the paramedics leaving LA and becoming a park ranger. that would've been the springboard for another series.

    If only a young David Hasselhoff made an appearance as an impressionable
    kid, they could have tied Baywatch the same 'verse.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to bex on Thursday, October 06, 2022 13:32:00
    Re: Re: Spending time vs mone
    By: bex to Moondog on Tue Oct 04 2022 10:54 am

    Moondog wrote to bex <=-

    center. Last month I went to the county fair, and which covers 160 acres comprised o f buildings rides, and exhibits. About half of that

    Y'know, I haven't been to a county fair since... wow, I can't even really remember! Not since my kiddos were all in single-digit ages (they are now 18, 16 and 14). I know what I want to do now!

    is parking, but it is still quite a haul walking through building after building, up and down the fairway, and through the food vendors and

    I am once again envious of you! Did you have a good time, aside from all
    the walking?


    -+- Brightening your day. -Bex <3

    ... "Time has a way of getting away from us, because we never have a grip on


    One of my favorite hobbies is people watching. You get all types, shapes and sizes at big events. What amazes me is city kids that do not
    realize vegetables have to planted and harvested, and animals are the source
    of meat in stores.

    Goths at a fair interest me. It is 100 degrees F outside, and these kids are layered in black clothing. They all look like they're having fun underneath their depressing surface.

    I used to raise and show animals through 4-f, and had several friends I knew from the fair and summer who went to other schools. I lived at the edge of our
    school district, and my summer friends lived closer to me than my school friends.

    I'd lose touch with some friends due to shorter days in the fall and winter. I'd see them when my school played their school in basketball. On friday nigh t games our parents would take us out after the game, and we'd hang out playin g video games at the nearest tavern.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Thursday, October 06, 2022 14:23:00
    Re: Jack Webb TV shows
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Wed Oct 05 2022 04:17 pm

    I worded that wrong. Dragnet was first, an Adam 12 and Emergency were spi

    Before my work schedule got messed up again (post-COVID), I would usually
    be sitting down to breakfast while Dragnet was on. If it looked like it
    was going to be one about hippies, I knew it was going to be a good one and would hit REC. :)


    * SLMR 2.1a * Football players do it after they are blitzed.


    Ah, hippies and misunderstood teenage revolution. Occasionally a clip from Dragnet appears on Facebook, when Friday chews out some teen becuase he wants to rebel since society is stacked against him. Funny part is you dind't know it was a clip from a show 55 years ago, you would think he's talking about millenials and their push button, on demand, want it now society.

    I though Emergency was the coolest. The portable EKG machine that could send telemetry back to the hospital was pretty slick. Portable defibulators were cool too.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, October 06, 2022 16:04:01
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Tue Oct 04 2022 07:46 am

    election results map filtered down to county could tell you that it's not a state/state, it's urban/rural.

    Overlay a presidential election map on top of a satellite photo of the US at night some time. Where there's light, they vote Democrat.

    so the dumb people vote democrat?

    btw, how is your president doing. and how fun is it to walk through the streets and step in human feces and used needles.

    do they still have water lines setup for people to take showers on the sidewalks?
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, October 06, 2022 19:00:06
    So maybe when they say "the South" they are confused and mean California?

    Not sure who "they" are, but anyone who can interpret a presidential election results map filtered down to county could tell you that it's not a state/state, it's urban/rural.

    Overlay a presidential election map on top of a satellite photo of the US at night some time. Where there's light, they vote Democrat.


    Yes, they do.

    Trump-supporting counties are doing better recovering jobs than those that voted for Biden

    Source: CBS NEWS

    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/job-growth-in-trump-voting-counties-in-the-bid en-economy/?fbclid=IwAR0pXdoOomWuW9xBHCG32HjviKTLsE-nw8o7YJNpINGINqvfJ2IbgC91RP A#app

    https://tinyurl.com/ypmwvpzy

    "Counties around the U.S. where a majority of voters supported former President Donald Trump in the 2020 election are regaining their lost jobs under President Joe Biden more quickly than counties that voted in favor of the current president, according to a new analysis of labor data.

    "Through the end of the first quarter, Trump-supporting counties have regained nearly all the jobs they lost when the pandemic first slammed the economy in March of 2020, with employment just 0.3%, or 124,000 jobs, short of where it was prior to the COVID-19 crisis, the Economic Innovation Group found. Counties where a majority of residents voted for Biden had a deficit of 1.7 million jobs ­ 1.8% short of pre-pandemic levels ­ by the end of the first quarter of
    2022."

    They go on to draw the conclusion that this is because blue areas have higher populations and therefore lost more jobs which, of course, ignores that they are comparing percentages of lost jobs recovered and not total populations.

    I am guessing it is more likely state and local policies in these red voting areas that are helping in their faster recovery.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, October 06, 2022 22:15:00
    Re: Re: DRAGNET, ADAM-12 , EM
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Brokenmind on Tue Oct 04 2022 07:04 am

    Subject: Re: DRAGNET, ADAM-12 , EMERGENCY
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    Brokenmind wrote to Moondog <=-

    Emergency was my favorite tv show growing up and I actually was a firefighter for 12 years before I was unable to countiune to serve due to injury. I did not know the dispatchers voice was the real actual voice and that the county fire chief was real but i was aware that a few of the firefighters were actually firefighters in real life.


    Ask anyone who grew up in the 70s what the beep pattern for Squad 51, and they'll probably be able to mimic it.

    What I didn't know was that there was some PR element to the show. LA was part of a pilot program for fire departments to have EMTs driving alongside the traditional fire crews, and the tele-health units that transmitted vital signs to the hospital was new tech. The show was intended to show both off.




    ... Remember quiet evenings

    in later seasons the pumper truck was replacxed with a newer model. Chances are the Ward Lafrance (custom builder of fire trucks) provided it as test vehicle. On some episodes they'll be backed up by Squad 128(?) and they have one of those old mid-sixties Dodge ladder trucks with the open top roofs.
    The fire station on the show is real, at least when they film exterior shots.
    That is Squad 128's station and they park their trucks across the street furing the few outside shots. Squad 51 was decommissioned when a larger department relocated to cover a larger area. Since it was a non-existant precinct, fire calls made to it could me made during daytime hours and not disrupt other department operatrions. I heard 51 was put back into use by
    the universal studio tours as their onsite meergency response unit. The paramedic truck was built to LAFD specs by the prop department so it can be donated to the FD after the show's cancellation. The truck was never donated and appeared on CHiPs on a few occasions.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Thursday, October 06, 2022 22:19:00
    Re: Re: Spending time vs mone
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Moondog on Tue Oct 04 2022 09:06 am

    Subject: Re: Spending time vs money
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    Moondog wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

    and that story felt like a possible spinoff. There was also talk of one of the paramedics leaving LA and becoming a park ranger. that would've been the springboard for another series.

    If only a young David Hasselhoff made an appearance as an impressionable kid, they could have tied Baywatch the same 'verse.


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    CHiPs is sort of connected to the franchise because Universal reused truck 51 on a few episodes.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Friday, October 07, 2022 17:40:00
    Ah, hippies and misunderstood teenage revolution. Occasionally a clip from Dragnet appears on Facebook, when Friday chews out some teen becuase he wants to rebel since society is stacked against him. Funny part is you dind't know it was a clip from a show 55 years ago, you would think he's talking about millenials and their push button, on demand, want it now society.

    LOL, yes a lot of what he says has become relevant again (if it ever
    wasn't).

    I though Emergency was the coolest. The portable EKG machine that could send telemetry back to the hospital was pretty slick. Portable defibulators were cool too.

    When I was young and it was on afternoon TV, I did, too. I even had a
    couple of their "official" plastic toy fireman hats.


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  • From Hylian@VERT to All on Saturday, October 08, 2022 11:20:07
    I was reading your posts, and it reminded me of my Grandpa Mike.

    He told me "You can make more money, you can't make more time."

    That's my opinion too.

    Time is finite.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Hylian on Saturday, October 08, 2022 14:27:34
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Hylian to All on Sat Oct 08 2022 11:20 am

    I was reading your posts, and it reminded me of my Grandpa Mike.

    He told me "You can make more money, you can't make more time."

    That's my opinion too.

    Time is finite.
    -Hylian

    who are you writing to? you posted to all.
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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Saturday, October 08, 2022 15:49:00
    Re: Jack Webb TV shows
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Fri Oct 07 2022 05:40 pm

    Ah, hippies and misunderstood teenage revolution. Occasionally a clip fro Dragnet appears on Facebook, when Friday chews out some teen becuase he wa to rebel since society is stacked against him. Funny part is you dind't k it was a clip from a show 55 years ago, you would think he's talking about millenials and their push button, on demand, want it now society.

    LOL, yes a lot of what he says has become relevant again (if it ever wasn't).

    I though Emergency was the coolest. The portable EKG machine that could s telemetry back to the hospital was pretty slick. Portable defibulators we cool too.

    When I was young and it was on afternoon TV, I did, too. I even had a couple of their "official" plastic toy fireman hats.


    * SLMR 2.1a * A man without a gun will soon not be free.


    I got a small black Plano fishing tacklebox. My father thought I was weird
    for keping band aids and bactine spray in it instead of fishing lures. My mother was an RN before becoming a full time mom. She knew the Emergency reference.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Hylian on Saturday, October 08, 2022 16:05:00
    Re: Spending time vs money
    By: Hylian to All on Sat Oct 08 2022 11:20 am

    I was reading your posts, and it reminded me of my Grandpa Mike.

    He told me "You can make more money, you can't make more time."

    That's my opinion too.

    Time is finite.
    -Hylian


    Money can't buy happiness, but it sure feels better crying in a heated
    leather car seat.

    At best it's about finding a balance or quality of life versus a long life
    with no resources to do more than just survive.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to HYLIAN on Sunday, October 09, 2022 11:00:00
    I was reading your posts, and it reminded me of my Grandpa Mike.

    He told me "You can make more money, you can't make more time."

    +1

    As I have gotten older, I am very disappointed in my ability to continue to waste time.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Sunday, October 09, 2022 11:00:00
    I got a small black Plano fishing tacklebox. My father thought I was weird for keping band aids and bactine spray in it instead of fishing lures. My mother was an RN before becoming a full time mom. She knew the Emergency reference.

    LOL!


    * SLMR 2.1a * Make like a nose and run.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dumas Walker on Friday, October 07, 2022 06:28:00
    Dumas Walker wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    Trump-supporting counties are doing better recovering jobs than those
    that voted for Biden

    Source: CBS NEWS

    https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/job-growth-in-trump-voting-counties-in- the-bid en-economy/?fbclid=IwAR0pXdoOomWuW9xBHCG32HjviKTLsE-nw8o7YJNpINGINqvfJ2I bgC91RP
    A#app

    They go on to draw the conclusion that this is because blue areas have higher populations and therefore lost more jobs which, of course,
    ignores that they are comparing percentages of lost jobs recovered and
    not total populations.

    I am guessing it is more likely state and local policies in these red voting areas that are helping in their faster recovery.


    They made a pretty good case for population density and a slower recovery,
    not local policies. On a state level, many red states receive more from the federal government than they pay out, so there could be an argument that
    those states benefit more than the blue states, which could skews recovery numbers.




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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Monday, October 10, 2022 10:52:22
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Fri Oct 07 2022 06:28 am

    They made a pretty good case for population density and a slower recovery, not local policies. On a state level, many red states receive more from the federal government than they pay out, so there could be an argument that those states benefit more than the blue states, which could skews recovery numbers.



    that's because they are asking for help. maybe 'blue states' need to ask for help.

    i dont like this red vs blue division shit. that will get us all no where.
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to poindexter FORTRAN on Tuesday, October 11, 2022 16:26:51
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Tue Oct 04 2022 07:46 am

    Not sure who "they" are, but anyone who can interpret a presidential election results map filtered down to county could tell you that it's not a state/state, it's urban/rural.

    Overlay a presidential election map on top of a satellite photo of the US at night some time. Where there's light, they vote Democrat.


    It would not surprise me. Big population centers tend to dilute responsibility so
    people takes responsibility as a group instead of individually.

    Case point: my boss sent me as a representative to a house owners association's meeting to discuss some budgets and other trivialities. I observed that the members of
    the group were very liberal with the use of money since it was not theirs, but the
    asociation's. A member would point at an issue that needed fixing, everybody would
    agree the issue needed fixing, and then somebody would propose a budget allocation for
    the problem. So far, so good. The concern I got from the meeting is that people was
    voting the budget allocations without asking how the money was going to be _used_ or
    what the utimate goals were.

    For example, if somebody pointed out that there was not enough money in the bank to
    purchase fuel, he would recommend to rise the membership's fee by ten EUR. Then everybody would agree without asking what the target was (ie. how much money do we
    expect to have in the bank account and for buying when, and how quickly did we need to
    raise the funds).

    Basically, they were throwing money into a pot and expecting the administrator to make
    the most of it so they don't have to worry, which is the socialist way.

    It is easy to make the comparison when you live in a unifamiliar house in which you
    need to count every penny and allocate every single dollar wisely, because if you lose
    control of the funds you freeze in winter. Urbanites throw money at the administrator
    and if things go wrong they blame a third party, meanwhile a rural redneck has to
    manage his own house himself and acknowledge that any failure at managing the funds is
    his mistake.

    It dawned on me some weeks ago The differences at managing one's life are so fundamental as to be unreconciliable.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Tuesday, October 11, 2022 18:23:57
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: Arelor to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Oct 11 2022 04:26 pm

    Not sure who "they" are, but anyone who can interpret a presidential election results map filtered down to county could tell you that it's not a state/state, it's urban/rural.

    Overlay a presidential election map on top of a satellite photo of the US at night some time. Where there's light, they vote Democrat.


    It would not surprise me. Big population centers tend to dilute


    that was just an ignorant comment he made

    https://i.imgur.com/3KHxRm6.png

    so he mentioned counties.
    i only know my own (democrat) state that well so i looked at election results from 2000 2004 2008 2012 2016 2020

    there's nothing to support his claim. if anything the rural people vote democrat because they think democrats are for the common man.

    source https://www.wisn.com/article/wisconsin-election-results-county-history/34131922
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  • From bex@VERT/CONCHAOS to Moondog on Thursday, October 20, 2022 10:51:00
    Moondog wrote to bex <=-

    One of my favorite hobbies is people watching. You get all types,
    shapes and sizes at big events. What amazes me is city kids that do
    not realize vegetables have to planted and harvested, and animals are
    the source of meat in stores.

    Hmm... they definitely go to different schools than my kiddos did. Their schools had field trips to farms and ranches around the area, lessons in science about foods we eat and where they come from and more.

    Goths at a fair interest me. It is 100 degrees F outside, and these
    kids are layered in black clothing. They all look like they're having
    fun underneath their depressing surface.

    My youngest daughter is very much goth, she dies her hair black, she has naturally pale skin that she highlights. (Side note: I am Hispanic but my youngest got none of the melatonin genes. My son is naturally tan. You can
    tell that they are siblings in their facial shape and features, but they
    look like night and day versions of each other.)

    She has periods where she's depressed, but for the most part she just likes
    the goth style.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to bex on Tuesday, October 25, 2022 17:31:00
    Re: Re: Spending time vs mone
    By: bex to Moondog on Thu Oct 20 2022 10:51 am

    Moondog wrote to bex <=-

    One of my favorite hobbies is people watching. You get all types, shapes and sizes at big events. What amazes me is city kids that do not realize vegetables have to planted and harvested, and animals are the source of meat in stores.

    Hmm... they definitely go to different schools than my kiddos did. Their schools had field trips to farms and ranches around the area, lessons in science about foods we eat and where they come from and more.

    Goths at a fair interest me. It is 100 degrees F outside, and these kids are layered in black clothing. They all look like they're having fun underneath their depressing surface.

    My youngest daughter is very much goth, she dies her hair black, she has naturally pale skin that she highlights. (Side note: I am Hispanic but my youngest got none of the melatonin genes. My son is naturally tan. You can tell that they are siblings in their facial shape and features, but they look like night and day versions of each other.)

    She has periods where she's depressed, but for the most part she just likes the goth style.


    -+- Brightening your day. -Bex <3

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    My friend's son went through a psuedo goth phase. He only did it to hang out with some girl,then it ended as soon as they lost interest in each other.
    The strange part is their son was a cross country runner and general jock
    type, and did well academically. It was far from being a clique or social status thing. His friends that knew him understand he is cosmetic about
    things like that.

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  • From Mikek@VERT/SNOCONE to esc on Friday, October 28, 2022 19:43:06
    Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
    By: esc to MRO on Mon Sep 12 2022 18:59:00


    Mike

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  • From Brokenmind@VERT/TIABBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Friday, February 03, 2023 10:50:01
    Re: Re: DRAGNET, ADAM-12 , EMERGENCY
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Brokenmind on Tue Oct 04 2022 07:04 am

    Ask anyone who grew up in the 70s what the beep pattern for Squad 51, and they'll probably be able to mimic it.
    What I didn't know was that there was some PR element to the show. LA was part of a pilot program for fire departments to have EMTs driving alongside the traditional fire crews, and the tele-health units that transmitted vital signs to the hospital was new tech. The show was intended to show both off.

    I found out about that later in History and I know a lot of firefighters and others today that actually have there beep pattern set for there text alert and even volunters for there pagers. thanks for the heads up about that though

    BrokenMind

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  • From Cougar428@VERT to BROKENMIND on Saturday, February 04, 2023 07:33:00
    Quoting Brokenmind to Poindexter Fortran <=-

    Re: Re: DRAGNET, ADAM-12 , EMERGENCY
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Brokenmind on Tue Oct 04 2022 07:04 am

    Ask anyone who grew up in the 70s what the beep pattern for Squad 51, and they'll probably be able to mimic it.

    I found out about that later in History and I know a lot of
    firefighters and others today that actually have there beep pattern
    set for there text alert and even volunters for there pagers. thanks
    for the heads up about that though
    BrokenMind

    Sad to say, but I still watch Dragnet, Adam 12 and Emergency...

    I know, I'm hopeless.

    Cougar


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Cougar428 on Sunday, February 05, 2023 11:04:00
    Re: Re: DRAGNET, ADAM-12 , EM
    By: Cougar428 to BROKENMIND on Sat Feb 04 2023 07:33 am

    Quoting Brokenmind to Poindexter Fortran <=-

    Re: Re: DRAGNET, ADAM-12 , EMERGENCY
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Brokenmind on Tue Oct 04 2022 07:04 am

    Ask anyone who grew up in the 70s what the beep pattern for Squad 51, a they'll probably be able to mimic it.

    I found out about that later in History and I know a lot of firefighters and others today that actually have there beep pattern
    set for there text alert and even volunters for there pagers. thanks for the heads up about that though
    BrokenMind

    Sad to say, but I still watch Dragnet, Adam 12 and Emergency...

    I know, I'm hopeless.

    Cougar


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  • From Brokenmind@VERT/TIABBS to Cougar428 on Tuesday, February 07, 2023 07:36:50
    Re: Re: DRAGNET, ADAM-12 , EM
    By: Cougar428 to BROKENMIND on Sat Feb 04 2023 07:33 am

    I found out about that later in History and I know a lot of
    firefighters and others today that actually have there beep pattern
    set for there text alert and even volunters for there pagers. thanks
    for the heads up about that though
    BrokenMind

    Sad to say, but I still watch Dragnet, Adam 12 and Emergency...


    I know, I'm hopeless.


    Don't feel bad i still watch Emergency and Adam 12 , Airworlf and others :)

    BrokenMind

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Cougar428 on Tuesday, February 07, 2023 06:26:00
    Cougar428 wrote to BROKENMIND <=-

    Sad to say, but I still watch Dragnet, Adam 12 and Emergency...

    I think it's Pluto TV that's got Emergency, I've watched a couple of
    episodes. The doctors look like they smoke in their offices and the
    nurse's outfit looks like something from the 1800s. kooky...



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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to poindexter FORTRAN on Tuesday, February 07, 2023 22:03:00
    Re: Re: DRAGNET, ADAM-12 , EM
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Cougar428 on Tue Feb 07 2023 06:26 am

    Cougar428 wrote to BROKENMIND <=-

    Sad to say, but I still watch Dragnet, Adam 12 and Emergency...

    I think it's Pluto TV that's got Emergency, I've watched a couple of episodes. The doctors look like they smoke in their offices and the
    nurse's outfit looks like something from the 1800s. kooky...



    ... Frightfully nice.

    Emergency was on 50 years ago. The chief nurse wore pants suits and that was sa point when nurses uniforms were evolving from those old style dresses.
    The portable ekg machine with RF data link to the hospital was fairly
    modern. By the later episodes the ekg machine had a defibrulator built in.

    Funny thing is the chief nurse was married in real life to the gray haired doctor, and was written in to be the love interest of the other main doctor. The dispatch operator who would speak over the talk box was the real LA
    county dispacter. Several of the firefighters were real firefighters. The fire chief who would appear at the fire scenes was the actuall county fire chi ef. I get the impression the show producers got access to the new stuff, and handed it over to the ifre department when the series was over.

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  • From Cougar428@VERT to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Tuesday, February 07, 2023 21:56:00
    Quoting Poindexter Fortran to Cougar428 <=-

    Sad to say, but I still watch Dragnet, Adam 12 and Emergency...

    I think it's Pluto TV that's got Emergency, I've watched a couple of episodes. The doctors look like they smoke in their offices and the nurse's outfit looks like something from the 1800s. kooky...

    I watch Dragnet and Adam 12 on Amazon Prime and Emergency I see on
    ME or Cozi TV. Dixie from Emergency was from when Nurses still wore
    white hats, I think that's what you are referring to anyway...

    I also see the Flying Nun once in a while, now there's 'kooky
    hats'...

    Regards there Poindexter!

    Cougar


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Wednesday, February 08, 2023 16:21:00
    Sad to say, but I still watch Dragnet, Adam 12 and Emergency...

    I think it's Pluto TV that's got Emergency, I've watched a couple of episodes. The doctors look like they smoke in their offices and the
    nurse's outfit looks like something from the 1800s. kooky...

    Me TV has it, but Pluto may also.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Moondog on Wednesday, February 08, 2023 07:13:00
    Moondog wrote to Cougar428 <=-

    I used to like Emergency as a kid. My father bought me a black Plano tackle box because I thought it was cooler than a fire truck

    I'm surprised they didn't market to kids that tackle box with a phone that
    they used to talk to the hospital and communicate vital signs to the
    doctors. Apparently that was a real thing and a new thing they were
    "selling" as part of their PR campaign for those units.

    Apparently, LA and another city were pilots for the paramedic program
    and used the show as a PR campaign.




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  • From Cougar428@VERT to MOONDOG on Thursday, February 09, 2023 08:57:00
    Quoting Moondog to Poindexter Fortran <=-

    Re: Re: DRAGNET, ADAM-12 , EM
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Cougar428 on Tue Feb 07 2023 06:26 am

    Cougar428 wrote to BROKENMIND <=-

    Sad to say, but I still watch Dragnet, Adam 12 and Emergency...

    I think it's Pluto TV that's got Emergency, I've watched a couple of episodes. The doctors look like they smoke in their offices and the
    nurse's outfit looks like something from the 1800s. kooky...



    ... Frightfully nice.

    Emergency was on 50 years ago. The chief nurse wore pants suits and
    that was sa point when nurses uniforms were evolving from those old
    style dresses. The portable ekg machine with RF data link to the
    hospital was fairly modern. By the later episodes the ekg machine had
    a defibrulator built in.
    Funny thing is the chief nurse was married in real life to the gray
    haired doctor, and was written in to be the love interest of the other main doctor. The dispatch operator who would speak over the talk box
    was the real LA county dispacter. Several of the firefighters were
    real firefighters. The fire chief who would appear at the fire scenes
    was the actuall county fire chi ef. I get the impression the show producers got access to the new stuff, and handed it over to the ifre department when the series was over.

    As you mention, Julie London (Dixie) was married to Bobby Troup (Dr Joe
    Early). Prior to that, she was married to Jack Webb and they had 2
    daughters. Ironically, Stacy Webb was killed when involved in a
    collision with a California Highway Patrol car in 1996.

    I think Jack Webb had a big hand in creating the series. He had a
    big impact on radio and TV of the times. I wish more of the Dragnet
    series of the early 50's were archived somewhere. Sadly not the
    case.

    Cougar


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Moondog on Thursday, February 09, 2023 06:41:00
    Moondog wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I get the impression the show
    producers got access to the new stuff, and handed it over to the ifre department when the series was over.

    The paramedic program was a pilot program in LA and another city, and
    the show was a PR/awareness campaign of sorts showing off the new
    program tech, like being able to call a doctor, have the doctor read
    vitals and prescribe treatment.



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