Re: Incels
By: DaiTengu to Dumas Walker on Sat Sep 17 2022 02:20 pm

At least, most of them do. Some never grow up, and wind up going to prison for violent offenses, where they then become "involuntarily not-celibate"

These fuckwads insist that women owe them sex, find like-minded chicken-chokers (easy to do on the internet now days), and after spending enough time having their own thoughts echoed back to them in these toxic cesspits they call "communities", they go out start harassing women. Eventually they take it to the level of assault.

our young people have a lot of bullshit to deal with. their minds are still developing so there's all kinds of influences from racism to abnormal sexuality and other ideals.

my ex's daughter's school changed from a regular middle school into a 'fine arts school'. bascially half the kids there thought they were gay or trans. i'm not joking or exaggerating. this is what i saw when i went there and this is what she told me. they were all being influenced by various things to think that being gay/trans is cool. even kids that weren't gay were pretending to be gay or cross dressing. that's what happens when you fuck with little kid's minds. i never saw anything like that.

people with gender identity disorder have a very high suicide rate and they arent getting the help they need. on top of that we have a society that has turn into a hate machine pitting people against eachother.
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Re: Incels
By: DaiTengu to Dumas Walker on Sat Sep 17 2022 02:20 pm

Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
By: Dumas Walker to DAITENGU on Sat Sep 17 2022 09:57 am

I could see younger people calling themselves that.

Yeah, it's definitely younger people for the most part. They grow up a bit,

At least, most of them do. Some never grow up, and wind up going to prison

These fuckwads insist that women owe them sex, find like-minded chicken-chok ut start harassing women. Eventually they take it to the level of assault.

DaiTengu

... I must follow them. I am their leader.

Neither side holds the de facto high ground. There's damaged goods on both sides of the fence. Men are accused of being the assholes and aggressors, however I have also seen quite a few passive men who are relationships with women who act as if they own their husbands. The guys talk smack with their friends, then go home and put on the puppy leash and take the abuse.

One of my "Facebook" friends, a girl I knew from school that was a few years above me in my sister's class, always post and complains about not finding Mr Right. There's been several times I've created a response, then changed it before hitting send. Every time I see her, it is in a bar or place with a
beer garden and band playing. I would like to tell her unless she tries a different type of pond, she will continue to catch the same type of fish.
What I fear is she is a functioning alcoholic, and there's not much in her
life outside of socializing where alcohol is served.

I've reached a point in my life where I do not feel empty or need somebody in my life, so I no longer shop. Despite this, I still find women who are more than a bit friendly or some form of chemistry is present. If I'm even trying and find prospects, these hopeless romantics on either side are looking in
the wrong places.

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Re: Incels
By: Moondog to DaiTengu on Sat Sep 17 2022 10:36 pm

One of my "Facebook" friends, a girl I knew from school that was a few years above me in my sister's class, always post and complains about not finding Mr Right. There's been several times I've created a response, then changed it before hitting send. Every time I see her, it is in a bar or place with a
beer garden and band playing. I would like to tell her unless she tries a different type of pond, she will continue to catch the same type of fish. What I fear is she is a functioning alcoholic, and there's not much in her life outside of socializing where alcohol is served.

she knows what she's doing and that's what she likes. if she's complaining that's just her looking for attention.


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Re: Incels
By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Sep 18 2022 02:49 am

she knows what she's doing and that's what she likes. if she's complaining that's j

people always find what they are looking for.

I am sure some people are just like that. In other cases, I think it is just a matter
of them finding what they look for, but not what they want, because they look for the
wrong deal.

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Re: Incels
By: Arelor to MRO on Sun Sep 18 2022 05:41 am

Re: Incels
By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Sep 18 2022 02:49 am

she knows what she's doing and that's what she likes. if she's complainin

people always find what they are looking for.

I am sure some people are just like that. In other cases, I think it is just of them finding what they look for, but not what they want, because they loo wrong deal.

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If you get into your 50's and 60's and still hang in bars, doing the same
stuff you were doing when you were in your 20's and 30's, I'm afraid there is little chance of maturity. People aren't always doomed and some are just
late bloomers and finally wise up much later than they wished they did.
Others accept the logic, yet their hearts lead them back down the same path.

Something I have found amusing are the ladies who were stunningly attractive
in their younger years trying to maintain that arrogance in their later
years. Some look like they've barely aged, or age like wine, and have gooten better. I'm not talking about them. I'm referring the girls in school that were popular and were perceived to be out of most guy's league, and dated older men or the captain of the football team. Some haven't held up well,
but rely on the nostalgia of being placed on a pedestal, yet haven't shed
that behavior they had in school.

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Re: Incels
By: Moondog to Arelor on Sun Sep 18 2022 12:59 pm

If you get into your 50's and 60's and still hang in bars, doing the same stuff you were doing when you were in your 20's and 30's, I'm afraid there is little chance of maturity. People aren't always doomed and some are just late bloomers and finally wise up much later than they wished they did. Others accept the logic, yet their hearts lead them back down the same path.

it depends on the type of bar. some bars are where you can meet new friends. it's just not people getting drunk.

there's this bar i used to go to that had awesome food. everyone there was friendly. the other town bar owners would stop in and buy a whole round.
they had different activites and live music.

it's important to get out of the house.
some stuff is too expensive or if you're alone you just cant go to.
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Re: Incels
By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Sep 18 2022 02:01 pm

it depends on the type of bar. some bars are where you can meet new friends. it's just not people getting drunk.

there's this bar i used to go to that had awesome food. everyone there was friendly. the ot
they had different activites and live music.

it's important to get out of the house.
some stuff is too expensive or if you're alone you just cant go to.

I find it very non-compelling to go to a place in order to make friends. I am a very task
oriented person. If I go to a place it has to be in order to accomplish some specific goal. If
I befriend somebody doing that, it is great, but moving my ass in order to talk randomly to
people sounds so off-putting :-(

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Re: Incels
By: Arelor to MRO on Sun Sep 18 2022 05:39 pm

I find it very non-compelling to go to a place in order to make friends. I am a very task oriented person. If I go to a place it has to be in order to accomplish some specific goal. If I befriend somebody doing that, it is great, but moving my ass in order to talk randomly to people sounds so off-putting :-(

you dont have to go to a place 'to make friends'; like everything else, it just happens.
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Re: Incels
By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Sep 18 2022 02:01 pm

Re: Incels
By: Moondog to Arelor on Sun Sep 18 2022 12:59 pm

If you get into your 50's and 60's and still hang in bars, doing the same stuff you were doing when you were in your 20's and 30's, I'm afraid ther is little chance of maturity. People aren't always doomed and some are j late bloomers and finally wise up much later than they wished they did. Others accept the logic, yet their hearts lead them back down the same pa

it depends on the type of bar. some bars are where you can meet new friends. it's just not people getting drunk.

there's this bar i used to go to that had awesome food. everyone there was f they had different activites and live music.

it's important to get out of the house.
some stuff is too expensive or if you're alone you just cant go to.

We have bars like that too, but the older folk tend to go to the hole in the wall or dive bars because there is less younger competition, or less "kids"
in general. It's ironic since those looking for action are choosing a
smaller pond in order to appear to be a bigger fish.

Another issue is how far a person wants to drive with any amount of alcohol in their system. If you have to drive 30 minutes home through several
smaller towns or through suburbs that are known for heavy police presence, a trip to the tavern 5 minutes away sounds more appealing. Several of the wineries and breweries have their version of a public house, or "pub,"
however their prices are considerable more if you're having more than just a f ew drinks with dinner.

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Moondog wrote to MRO <=-

Re: Incels
By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Sep 18 2022 02:01 pm

Re: Incels
By: Moondog to Arelor on Sun Sep 18 2022 12:59 pm

If you get into your 50's and 60's and still hang in bars, doing the same stuff you were doing when you were in your 20's and 30's, I'm afraid ther is little chance of maturity. People aren't always doomed and some are j late bloomers and finally wise up much later than they wished they did. Others accept the logic, yet their hearts lead them back down the same pa

it depends on the type of bar. some bars are where you can meet new friends. it's just not people getting drunk.

there's this bar i used to go to that had awesome food. everyone there was f they had different activites and live music.

it's important to get out of the house.
some stuff is too expensive or if you're alone you just cant go to.

We have bars like that too, but the older folk tend to go to the hole
in the wall or dive bars because there is less younger competition, or less "kids" in general. It's ironic since those looking for action are choosing a smaller pond in order to appear to be a bigger fish.

Another issue is how far a person wants to drive with any amount of alcohol in their system. If you have to drive 30 minutes home through several smaller towns or through suburbs that are known for heavy
police presence, a trip to the tavern 5 minutes away sounds more appealing. Several of the wineries and breweries have their version of
a public house, or "pub," however their prices are considerable more if you're having more than just a f ew drinks with dinner.

I don't think there is any issues going to bars, pubs and clubs at that age. If that it is *all* you do, then there is a problem, but being old shouldn't mean you stop socialising, stop meeting new people, stop having fun. Isn't it normal in many places in the world for old people to sit at a bar or cafe? They're enjoying life!

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Re: Incels
By: MRO to Arelor on Mon Sep 19 2022 12:19 am

Re: Incels
By: Arelor to MRO on Sun Sep 18 2022 05:39 pm

I find it very non-compelling to go to a place in order to make friends. am a very task oriented person. If I go to a place it has to be in order accomplish some specific goal. If I befriend somebody doing that, it is great, but moving my ass in order to talk randomly to people sounds so off-putting :-(

you dont have to go to a place 'to make friends'; like everything else, it j

The concept of social clubs or social organizations has been decline for at least 20 years. The younger generation doesn't make the time for it, or
cannot make the meetings or do not have time to hang out. Some have replaced it with soical media or apps such as discord so they don't have to show up
or leave a physical building with limited hours of operation.

My father is a meber of the American Legion and also the Order of the Moose, but they do less family things these days and it's more or less about sitting in the bar part of their clubhouse. I have a drink occasionally, but i do
not drink as a hobby or regular habit. Hanging at these clubs seeing the
same people each day and not doing anything active never appealed to me. I joined a conservation club so i could use their shooting range facilities,
then got active in the board of directors helping to improve the club for the membership, and help bring in new people. There's some work to be done at times, but it provides a common thread for conversation with members. It's also good for networking, as in acquisition of goods or skills. many social clubs were developed for this purpose. Price cuts on labor and goods.

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Re: Re: Incels
By: Boraxman to Moondog on Mon Sep 19 2022 09:56 pm

Moondog wrote to MRO <=-

Re: Incels
By: MRO to Moondog on Sun Sep 18 2022 02:01 pm

Re: Incels
By: Moondog to Arelor on Sun Sep 18 2022 12:59 pm

If you get into your 50's and 60's and still hang in bars, doing the s stuff you were doing when you were in your 20's and 30's, I'm afraid t is little chance of maturity. People aren't always doomed and some ar late bloomers and finally wise up much later than they wished they did Others accept the logic, yet their hearts lead them back down the same

it depends on the type of bar. some bars are where you can meet new frien it's just not people getting drunk.

there's this bar i used to go to that had awesome food. everyone there wa they had different activites and live music.

it's important to get out of the house.
some stuff is too expensive or if you're alone you just cant go to.

We have bars like that too, but the older folk tend to go to the hole in the wall or dive bars because there is less younger competition, or less "kids" in general. It's ironic since those looking for action are choosing a smaller pond in order to appear to be a bigger fish.

Another issue is how far a person wants to drive with any amount of alcohol in their system. If you have to drive 30 minutes home through several smaller towns or through suburbs that are known for heavy police presence, a trip to the tavern 5 minutes away sounds more appealing. Several of the wineries and breweries have their version of a public house, or "pub," however their prices are considerable more if you're having more than just a f ew drinks with dinner.

I don't think there is any issues going to bars, pubs and clubs at that age. If that it is *all* you do, then there is a problem, but being old shouldn't mean you stop socialising, stop meeting new people, stop having fun. Isn't normal in many places in the world for old people to sit at a bar or cafe? They're enjoying life!

That's fine as you say. I'm referring to people that only spend their spare time in a bar, or at least most of their free time. The maturity thing comes in when there are people who regularly get pissed drunk like they're kids, and
never learned what the term "mind your pints and quarts" means. Have a good time, but don't become an embarrassing drunk in public.

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Re: Incels
By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Sep 19 2022 09:06 am

you dont have to go to a place 'to make friends'; like everything else, it j

The concept of social clubs or social organizations has been decline for at least 20 years. The younger generation doesn't make the time for it, or cannot make the meetings or do not have time to hang out. Some have

there's lot of bars shit in my city where everyone goes to socialize.

My father is a meber of the American Legion and also the Order of the Moose, but they do less family things these days and it's more or less about sitting in the bar part of their clubhouse. I have a drink occasionally, but i do
not drink as a hobby or regular habit. Hanging at these clubs seeing the same people each day and not doing anything active never appealed to me. I joined a conservation club so i could use their shooting range facilities,

you're talking about mooselodge right? and headquarters is mooseheart?

that shit is boring. you can't compare that to other shit. same with american legion.
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Re: Re: Incels
By: Moondog to Boraxman on Mon Sep 19 2022 09:14 am

age. If that it is *all* you do, then there is a problem, but being old shouldn't mean you stop socialising, stop meeting new people, stop having fun. Isn't normal in many places in the world for old people to sit at a bar or cafe? They're enjoying life!

That's fine as you say. I'm referring to people that only spend their spare time in a bar, or at least most of their free time. The maturity thing comes in when there are people who regularly get pissed drunk like they're kids, and
never learned what the term "mind your pints and quarts" means. Have a good time, but don't become an embarrassing drunk in public.

those are alcoholics. not everyone is an alcoholic. i drink beer to sober up.

so you don't get out of the house to do any activities?
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Re: Incels
By: MRO to Moondog on Mon Sep 19 2022 03:03 pm

Re: Incels
By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Sep 19 2022 09:06 am

you dont have to go to a place 'to make friends'; like everything else it j

The concept of social clubs or social organizations has been decline for least 20 years. The younger generation doesn't make the time for it, or cannot make the meetings or do not have time to hang out. Some have

there's lot of bars shit in my city where everyone goes to socialize.

My father is a meber of the American Legion and also the Order of the Moo but they do less family things these days and it's more or less about sitting in the bar part of their clubhouse. I have a drink occasionally but i do
not drink as a hobby or regular habit. Hanging at these clubs seeing the same people each day and not doing anything active never appealed to me. joined a conservation club so i could use their shooting range facilities

you're talking about mooselodge right? and headquarters is mooseheart?

that shit is boring. you can't compare that to other shit. same with americ

Yes, they have declined over the years in popularity and membership activity.
When I was a child the clubs hosted baseball and softball leagues, soccer,
and other sports. The Sons or Auxilliary would host dinners and dances, and other family oriented or fund raising event open to the public. One town had four or five baseball diamonds on their property, and would host touranments which coincided with holiday or town festivals. The parade would either
end up at the legion hall, or people would go there after the parade.

The Legion post I belong to hosts the property used for parking during the
4th of July fireworks, and the fire department raises the funds to buy the fireworks. We would host them on the 3rd instead to get a larger crowd. We have a beergarden, serve food, and have a band or two play the afternoon and
up to and after the fireworks. We also recently had a street dance, and that raised a large crowd. Mileage varies between towns and how active their memberships regarding social events.

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Re: Re: Incels
By: MRO to Moondog on Mon Sep 19 2022 03:04 pm

Re: Re: Incels
By: Moondog to Boraxman on Mon Sep 19 2022 09:14 am

age. If that it is *all* you do, then there is a problem, but being ol shouldn't mean you stop socialising, stop meeting new people, stop hav fun. Isn't normal in many places in the world for old people to sit a bar or cafe? They're enjoying life!

That's fine as you say. I'm referring to people that only spend their sp time in a bar, or at least most of their free time. The maturity thing comes in when there are people who regularly get pissed drunk like they'r kids, and
never learned what the term "mind your pints and quarts" means. Have a good time, but don't become an embarrassing drunk in public.

those are alcoholics. not everyone is an alcoholic. i drink beer to sober u

so you don't get out of the house to do any activities?

I get out and do things. My point was some do nothing other than park on a
bar chair, and little else. I find it to be sad since there in more to life than reaching the bottom of a bottle.

I like hiking, cycling, camping, and I'm on the board of directors of a conservation club. We teach hunter's education, archery, and various levels
of academic sport shooting and defensive shooting. I was recruited or ask to serve on the board 12 years ago because we had ideas for improving hte club, and needed technical advisory to make sure it got done. I stick around to remind newer board members as to why we try to maintain long term plans
versus spend money like there is no tomorrow and spend it wisely.

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Re: Incels
By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Sep 19 2022 10:31 pm

that shit is boring. you can't compare that to other shit. same with americ

Yes, they have declined over the years in popularity and membership activity.
When I was a child the clubs hosted baseball and softball leagues, soccer, and other sports. The Sons or Auxilliary would host dinners and dances, and other family oriented or fund raising event open to the public. One town had four or five baseball diamonds on their property, and would host

well the mooselodge does a lot of good things for communities with fundraising and other things. it's also a good way to network with other business owners. young people arent into that stuff so it's on the decline.
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Re: Re: Incels
By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Sep 19 2022 10:55 pm

those are alcoholics. not everyone is an alcoholic. i drink beer to sober u

so you don't get out of the house to do any activities?

I get out and do things. My point was some do nothing other than park on a bar chair, and little else. I find it to be sad since there in more to life than reaching the bottom of a bottle.

i dont reach the bottom of the bottle. i just go out to see weird shit and funny shit and get out of the house. i have maybe one beer and i'm big so that beer does nothing to me.

I like hiking, cycling, camping, and I'm on the board of directors of a conservation club. We teach hunter's education, archery, and various levels of academic sport shooting and defensive shooting. I was recruited or ask to serve on the board 12 years ago because we had ideas for improving hte club, and needed technical advisory to make sure it got done. I stick around to remind newer board members as to why we try to maintain long term plans

that stuff sounds like work.
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i dont reach the bottom of the bottle. i just go out to see weird shit
and funny shit and get out of the house. i have maybe one beer and i'm big so that beer does nothing to me.

I stopped drinking alcohol in July of 2021 and realized that alcohol was bringing out sides of my personality that I was not a fan of. And I've never really been able to do the "one drink and go home" thing. I think a lot of people can have a decent relationship with alcohol, I'm not one of them, and I'm better off sober.

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Re: Re: Incels
By: esc to MRO on Tue Sep 20 2022 10:38 pm

i dont reach the bottom of the bottle. i just go out to see weird shit and funny shit and get out of the house. i have maybe one beer and i'm big so that beer does nothing to me.

I stopped drinking alcohol in July of 2021 and realized that alcohol was bringing out sides of my personality that I was not a fan of. And I've never really been able to do the "one drink and go home" thing. I think a lot of people can have a decent relationship with alcohol, I'm not one of them, and I'm better off sober.

I don't think i can get addicted to anything lowkey. i'd probably get addicted to some type of hard drug just like everyone else does.

to me alcohol doesn't even taste good. i just drink good whiskey to unwind and get to sleep sometimes.
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to me alcohol doesn't even taste good. i just drink good whiskey to
unwind and get to sleep sometimes.

I sometimes take a cannabis gummy to go to sleep. Works really well. And doesn't have that same effect on me to take more.

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Re: Re: Incels
By: Moondog to Boraxman on Mon Sep 19 2022 09:14 am

I don't think there is any issues going to bars, pubs and clubs at that age. If that it is *all* you do, then there is a problem, but being old shouldn't mean you stop socialising, stop meeting new people, stop having fun. Isn't normal in many places in the world for old people to sit at a bar or cafe? They're enjoying life!

That's fine as you say. I'm referring to people that only spend their spare time in a bar, or at least most of their free time. The maturity thing comes in when there are people who regularly get pissed drunk like they're kids, and
never learned what the term "mind your pints and quarts" means. Have a good time, but don't become an embarrassing drunk in public.

Understandable, and I agree. It would get boring doing the same thing everyday for your entire life, never living in any other mode.

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Re: Re: Incels
By: esc to MRO on Tue Sep 20 2022 10:38 pm

I stopped drinking alcohol in July of 2021 and realized that alcohol was bringing out sides of my personality that I was not a fan of. And I've never really been able to do the "one drink and go home" thing. I think a lot of people can have a decent relationship with alcohol, I'm not one of them, and I'm better off sober.

I hear that. I was a Jeckle and Hide when I drank. I'm not one of the ones that can drink and have a healthy relationship neither.

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We have bars like that too, but the older folk tend to go to the hole
in the wall or dive bars because there is less younger competition, or less "kids" in general. It's ironic since those looking for action are choosing a smaller pond in order to appear to be a bigger fish.

I dunno if I'd say it is ironic. If I were single, I would avoid any
bar/lounge whose clientele's average age was less than 40. Folks in their
20s and early 30s look like kids to me, more and moreso as I get older.

I think that's more "natural" than "ironic".


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Re: Incels
By: MRO to Moondog on Tue Sep 20 2022 03:04 pm

Re: Incels
By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Sep 19 2022 10:31 pm

that shit is boring. you can't compare that to other shit. same with americ

Yes, they have declined over the years in popularity and membership activity.
When I was a child the clubs hosted baseball and softball leagues, socce and other sports. The Sons or Auxilliary would host dinners and dances, other family oriented or fund raising event open to the public. One town had four or five baseball diamonds on their property, and would host

well the mooselodge does a lot of good things for communities with fundraisi

I have several friends who are active int he Moose, however I'm not a member.
My father joined because that was the club everyone he golfed with stopped
at, and it was in between the golf course and home. They try to organize events, but they've been on the decline as previously stated.

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Re: Re: Incels
By: MRO to Moondog on Tue Sep 20 2022 03:06 pm

Re: Re: Incels
By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Sep 19 2022 10:55 pm

those are alcoholics. not everyone is an alcoholic. i drink beer to sober u

so you don't get out of the house to do any activities?

I get out and do things. My point was some do nothing other than park on bar chair, and little else. I find it to be sad since there in more to l than reaching the bottom of a bottle.

i dont reach the bottom of the bottle. i just go out to see weird shit and f

I like hiking, cycling, camping, and I'm on the board of directors of a conservation club. We teach hunter's education, archery, and various lev of academic sport shooting and defensive shooting. I was recruited or as to serve on the board 12 years ago because we had ideas for improving hte club, and needed technical advisory to make sure it got done. I stick aro to remind newer board members as to why we try to maintain long term plan

that stuff sounds like work.

Work is sweating when you don't like it. Otherwise it is a hobby.

Having a drink or two is fine. Stopping at the bar for a few drinks at 4pm then
having someone drive you home at last call on a regular basis is a bad habit.

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Re: Re: Incels
By: esc to MRO on Tue Sep 20 2022 10:38 pm

i dont reach the bottom of the bottle. i just go out to see weird shit and funny shit and get out of the house. i have maybe one beer and i'm big so that beer does nothing to me.

I stopped drinking alcohol in July of 2021 and realized that alcohol was bri tionship with alcohol, I'm not one of them, and I'm better off sober.

Congratulations. Some never achieve that moment of clarity. I used to work with someone who was not who I imagined to be a drinker, and he said he had no
urges to drink and could have alcohol sitting around the house and never
have an urge to drink. Once he does take a drink, he'll drink until he
passes out. We're all wired differently, and must learn our limits. That limit
may be none at all.

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Re: Re: Incels
By: esc to MRO on Wed Sep 21 2022 02:19 am

to me alcohol doesn't even taste good. i just drink good whiskey to unwind and get to sleep sometimes.

I sometimes take a cannabis gummy to go to sleep. Works really well. And doesn't have that same effect on me to take more.

If i had an accident at work i'd have to take a drugtest, and even if it were legal in my state it still will be against the company rules. so i can't take that shit.
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Re: Re: Incels
By: Moondog to MRO on Wed Sep 21 2022 02:59 pm

Work is sweating when you don't like it. Otherwise it is a hobby.

Having a drink or two is fine. Stopping at the bar for a few drinks at 4pm then
having someone drive you home at last call on a regular basis is a bad habit.

yeah, i would say so. but i've never heard of that.
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Re: Re: Incels
By: bex to Moondog on Wed Sep 21 2022 09:32 am

Moondog wrote to MRO <=-

We have bars like that too, but the older folk tend to go to the hole in the wall or dive bars because there is less younger competition, or less "kids" in general. It's ironic since those looking for action are choosing a smaller pond in order to appear to be a bigger fish.

I dunno if I'd say it is ironic. If I were single, I would avoid any bar/lounge whose clientele's average age was less than 40. Folks in their 20s and early 30s look like kids to me, more and moreso as I get older.

I think that's more "natural" than "ironic".

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In terms of venues, I agree it's natural to pick a place with similar aged people. Some venues are more of a drinking establishment than a meet market.
That is what I find ironic. I used to have a joke pickup line I would use with a girl I used to go to school with. To view people's reactions, I would approach her and say, "I may not be the best looking man in this bar, but
right now I'm the only one talking to you." I would follow it up later, by saying, "my beer gets warm before I finish it. Can I keep it cold by placing it next to your heart? She's a good friend but we never got past being
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Congratulations. Some never achieve that moment of clarity. I used to work with someone who was not who I imagined to be a drinker, and he
said he had no urges to drink and could have alcohol sitting around the house and never have an urge to drink. Once he does take a drink, he'll drink until he passes out. We're all wired differently, and must learn our limits. That limit
may be none at all.

Yeah, I just tend to find my way into dark places once I get near the firewater lol. Thanks for the kind words btw.

One thing that's interesting is that I don't miss it, my wife drinks wine in front of me and it's a non-issue. The only thing that's weird now is going out with coworkers or something to a dinner or happy hour. But, I'm going to stick to my guns on this for my own sanity and well being.

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If i had an accident at work i'd have to take a drugtest, and even if it were legal in my state it still will be against the company rules. so i can't take that shit.

Gotcha. California just made it illegal for a company to fire you for recreational cannabis usage during off-hours. I think showing up high is still a fireable offense, though (like showing up drunk).

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Re: Re: Incels
By: esc to MRO on Wed Sep 21 2022 11:57 pm

If i had an accident at work i'd have to take a drugtest, and even if it were legal in my state it still will be against the company rules. so i can't take that shit.

Gotcha. California just made it illegal for a company to fire you for recreational cannabis usage during off-hours. I think showing up high is still a fireable offense, though (like showing up drunk).

yeah but how do they know if you are on it right then?
other than the smell or red eyes.
with alcohol they can test your blood alcohol level. i don't think
they can do anything with thc right now.

i worked pt at amazon and they dont even test for that shit. there were people doing weed before during and after work.
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Re: Re: Incels
By: esc to Moondog on Wed Sep 21 2022 11:56 pm

Congratulations. Some never achieve that moment of clarity. I used to work with someone who was not who I imagined to be a drinker, and he said he had no urges to drink and could have alcohol sitting around th house and never have an urge to drink. Once he does take a drink, he'l drink until he passes out. We're all wired differently, and must learn our limits. That limit
may be none at all.

Yeah, I just tend to find my way into dark places once I get near the firewa

One thing that's interesting is that I don't miss it, my wife drinks wine in for my own sanity and well being.

One thing I noticed when I stopped social drinking was I'm the same asshole, but I remember more details of the evening. At one gathering I went to was with a bunch of schedulers from work, and I had one shot because someone else paid for it. The next monday the chief scheduler was asking when all the new monitors and desktops were coming in for their department. She said I
offered up three displays for each desk, and promised to order them new workst ations. She also said I wouldn't give the new cute scheduler a break that evening. I don't recall any of that. All I recall is having a shot, some conversation, then going home. But for a moment she had me second guessing myself, as if i blacked out. I heard laughing from the cubes next to us, and that gave it away. I got revenge on her with help from her husband. He was buying a keg-erator, a fridge that allows a tapped keg to be cooled at the hardware store. When they proceeded to the checkout,there were a few
cashiers and the line of customers were long. Someone in line remarked to her that she must be the greatest wife because she is allowing her husband to get something for his mancave. I remarked back that he was buying it for her.
She has the cool cave, and makes him sit in the little shed with the lawn mower.

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Re: Re: Incels
By: esc to MRO on Wed Sep 21 2022 11:57 pm

If i had an accident at work i'd have to take a drugtest, and even if i were legal in my state it still will be against the company rules. so can't take that shit.

Gotcha. California just made it illegal for a company to fire you for recrea

I wonder how they can tell if a person is not under the effect of THC? The police tests years ago would detect use, but not potency or concentration in the system like the a breathalyzer does with blood alcohol content. When I workd in nuclear power generation, use of any pot-based product that tripped their drug test would result in immediate termination.

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Re: Re: Incels
By: Moondog to esc on Thu Sep 22 2022 09:47 am

I wonder how they can tell if a person is not under the effect of THC? The police tests years ago would detect use, but not potency or concentration in the system like the a breathalyzer does with blood alcohol content. When I workd in nuclear power generation, use of any pot-based product that tripped their drug test would result in immediate termination.

apparently thc shows up in the urine, blood, hair for a various long periods.

saliva tests detect thc for a few hours.
this is the last site i found when looking this up

https://disa.com/news/can-you-test-if-someone-is-high-at-the-moment

there was this one dude at work who was trembling and acting high.
i reported him when i saw a near miss and several people reported him beforehand. they checked his blood and urine. they got nothing.

I have worked with people that got high all the time and he really set off my spidy sense.

after this day he had a few other weird occurances, one of those where he was overheating and sweating when it was a cold winter morning. he was working on the ship dock where the doors had to be open all the time and there was minimal heating.
he looked like he took the icebucket challenge from all the sweat on the head to chest area and he wasn't even at work for half an hour.
they put icepacks on him and took him to the doctor. nothing to report back.

later on they put this guy to work in another area and he started doing FLMA leave all the time. at my job that was abused a lot when people wanted to take off in the summer. they could get it for taking care of their mother or whatever. they made so much money, taking off a lot didn't put a dent in their paycheck.

eventually they did a RIF [reduction in work force] event when the economy was bad, which means they talked a ton of people into a back office and gave them severance packages and told them they are done. he was one of those guys along with other people with bad attendance.
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with alcohol they can test your blood alcohol level. i don't think
they can do anything with thc right now.

I don't think companies can compel you to take a blood alcohol test either :)

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Re: Re: Incels
By: esc to MRO on Fri Sep 23 2022 02:29 am

with alcohol they can test your blood alcohol level. i don't think they can do anything with thc right now.

I don't think companies can compel you to take a blood alcohol test either :)

well they can ask you and if you say no you're fired.
that's admitting guilt in their eyes.
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Re: Re: Incels
By: esc to MRO on Fri Sep 23 2022 02:29 am

with alcohol they can test your blood alcohol level. i don't think they can do anything with thc right now.

I don't think companies can compel you to take a blood alcohol test either :

For insurance reasons, if there is a work accident, a breathalyzer is warranted to prove to the underwriter that alocohol was not a factor. BAC can be calculated from it. I think the accused can request a blood draw, but chances
are if there's any alcohol is their system, they can extrapolate rate of absorption to the point of when they were legally impaired even closer.

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Re: Re: Incels
By: esc to MRO on Fri Sep 23 2022 02:29:00

with alcohol they can test your blood alcohol level. i don't think
they can do anything with thc right now.

I don't think companies can compel you to take a blood alcohol test either :)

they can, but it depends on your job. I know with my job (driving) if there's either a random drug test or a drug test
cus i was involved in an accident, they also do a BAC test.

I can also pop a test if i take CDB gummies etc. so yes they can detect some parts incl THC, but the latter is not really
that accurate at the moment.

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Re: Re: Incels
By: Moondog to esc on Fri Sep 23 2022 10:12 am

are if there's any alcohol is their system, they can extrapolate rate of absorption to the point of when they were legally impaired even closer.

no they can't do that part. they can only work with what they have.
people's bodies work different.

they can't lie and say your blood alcohol is THIS when it's really THAT.
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Re: Re: Incels
By: MRO to Moondog on Fri Sep 23 2022 05:25 pm

Re: Re: Incels
By: Moondog to esc on Fri Sep 23 2022 10:12 am

are if there's any alcohol is their system, they can extrapolate rate of absorption to the point of when they were legally impaired even closer.

no they can't do that part. they can only work with what they have.
people's bodies work different.

they can't lie and say your blood alcohol is THIS when it's really THAT.

The nuclear power generation industry has a formula based on an average person 's height and weight. If you're larger than average, that maay help you a little. They might go for a blood draw and factor in size based on charts
for people of different sizes. They could have you blow the breathalzer,
wait an hour, then blow again, and build a scale based on the rate your body broke it down. The NRC nad industry take it pretty seriously.

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Re: Re: Incels
By: Moondog to MRO on Fri Sep 23 2022 11:54 pm

they can't lie and say your blood alcohol is THIS when it's really THAT.

The nuclear power generation industry has a formula based on an average person 's height and weight. If you're larger than average, that maay help you a little. They might go for a blood draw and factor in size based on charts
for people of different sizes. They could have you blow the breathalzer, wait an hour, then blow again, and build a scale based on the rate your body broke it down. The NRC nad industry take it pretty seriously.

if they find ANY alcohol they should fire the person.
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Re: Re: Incels
By: MRO to Moondog on Sat Sep 24 2022 02:24 am

Re: Re: Incels
By: Moondog to MRO on Fri Sep 23 2022 11:54 pm

they can't lie and say your blood alcohol is THIS when it's really THA

The nuclear power generation industry has a formula based on an average person 's height and weight. If you're larger than average, that maay he you a little. They might go for a blood draw and factor in size based on charts
for people of different sizes. They could have you blow the breathalzer, wait an hour, then blow again, and build a scale based on the rate your b broke it down. The NRC nad industry take it pretty seriously.

if they find ANY alcohol they should fire the person.

They random drug test, and sometimes you can "win the lottery" and get picked for testing as soon as you clock in. If you have a 7am shift start and drank "casually aka not f'd up" until 2am the night before, a trace amount may show in your system, but you are far from being intoxicated or impaired on the jobsite. If you're 7.5 hours into a shift and display any BAC, that's a definite sign you consumed alcohol whether by drink or in food. Going by
the cutoff time, I'm assuming acohol from a beer will pass through an
average sized person within 5 hours.

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Re: Re: Incels
By: MRO to Moondog on Sat Sep 24 2022 02:24 am

The nuclear power generation industry has a formula based on an average person 's height and weight. If you're larger than average, that maay he you a little. They might go for a blood draw and factor in size based on charts
for people of different sizes. They could have you blow the breathalzer, wait an hour, then blow again, and build a scale based on the rate your b broke it down. The NRC nad industry take it pretty seriously.

if they find ANY alcohol they should fire the person.

It... depends.

A friend of mine was having a prescription mouth flush every morning before work. ONe day, he was stopped at a traffic control and they made him blow into the alcoholimeter. His readings were "Take him to Police Station" high. WHen they did a blood test, they found 0.0 alcohol. Apparently, the mouth flush has a high alcohol content and messed up the readings \o/

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Re: Re: Incels
By: Arelor to MRO on Sun Sep 25 2022 07:12 am

A friend of mine was having a prescription mouth flush every morning before work. ONe day, he was stopped at a traffic control and they made him blow into the alcoholimeter. His readings were "Take him to Police Station" high. WHen they did a blood test, they found 0.0 alcohol. Apparently, the mouth flush has a high alcohol content and messed up the readings \o/

that mouth wash shouldnt set anything off unless he is using it RIGHT before
he is tested.
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Re: Re: Incels
By: Arelor to MRO on Sun Sep 25 2022 07:12 am

Re: Re: Incels
By: MRO to Moondog on Sat Sep 24 2022 02:24 am

The nuclear power generation industry has a formula based on an averag person 's height and weight. If you're larger than average, that maay you a little. They might go for a blood draw and factor in size based charts
for people of different sizes. They could have you blow the breathalz wait an hour, then blow again, and build a scale based on the rate you broke it down. The NRC nad industry take it pretty seriously.

if they find ANY alcohol they should fire the person.

It... depends.

A friend of mine was having a prescription mouth flush every morning before work. ONe day, he was stopped at a traffic control and they made him blow in the alcoholimeter. His readings were "Take him to Police Station" high. WHen they did a blood test, they found 0.0 alcohol. Apparently, the mouth flush h a high alcohol content and messed up the readings \o/

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In the test procedures I've been involved with, the subject is asked if they had any mouthwash, drinks or food 15-20 minutes prior to the breathalyzer test. if the answer is yes, then they will sit in the ready room for
another 15-20 minutes, and maybe allowed a cup of water if they feel dehydrated. I can see how a police officer might not have that much time to sit around and wait for surface applied alcohol to evaporate.


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Moondog wrote to bex <=-

would follow it up later, by saying, "my beer gets warm before I finish it. Can I keep it cold by placing it next to your heart? She's a good friend but we never got past being good friends.

Sounds wonderful, good friends are so important! <3



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