I find it very non-compelling to go to a place in order to
make friends. I am a very task oriented person. If I go to
a place it has to be in order to accomplish some specific
goal. If I befriend somebody doing that, it is great, but
moving my ass in order to talk randomly to people sounds so
off-putting :-(
Open your mind to the possibility of meeting someone
spontaneously whilst doing something else: shopping,
travelling, etc. That person could very well make a good
difference in your life.
Open your mind to the possibility of meeting someone
spontaneously whilst doing something else: shopping,
travelling, etc. That person could very well make a good
difference in your life.
Re: a very task oriented person
By: Ogg to Arelor on Mon Sep 19 2022 08:00 am
Open your mind to the possibility of meeting someone
spontaneously whilst doing something else: shopping,
travelling, etc. That person could very well make a good
difference in your life.
i'm sure approaching someone when they are shopping is totally NOT creepy.
also traveling alone is creepy.
Hello Arelor!
** On Sunday 18.09.22 - 17:39, Arelor wrote to MRO:
I find it very non-compelling to go to a place in order to
make friends. I am a very task oriented person. If I go to
a place it has to be in order to accomplish some specific
goal. If I befriend somebody doing that, it is great, but
moving my ass in order to talk randomly to people sounds so
off-putting :-(
Open your mind to the possibility of meeting someone
spontaneously whilst doing something else: shopping,
travelling, etc. That person could very well make a good
difference in your life.
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Re: a very task oriented pers
By: MRO to Ogg on Mon Sep 19 2022 02:58 pm
Re: a very task oriented person
By: Ogg to Arelor on Mon Sep 19 2022 08:00 am
Open your mind to the possibility of meeting someone
spontaneously whilst doing something else: shopping,
travelling, etc. That person could very well make a good
difference in your life.
i'm sure approaching someone when they are shopping is totally NOT creepy.
also traveling alone is creepy.
My aunt is a very social person. One time I flew with to a wedding in New York, and during the holdovers in between fights we'd stop in a bar and find a random person to talk to. She used to be a social worker, and could read people pretty well. She would find somethin interesting about what the person is wearing, or maybe it's their age (she liked to help keep an eye on y
oung people traveling) and talk to make time pass. Part of this might've bene done to calm her nerves, since she hated the moment before boarding the plane. The conversation was small talk, nothing giving away personal information or anything current or relevant.
Regarding shopping, talking to a person in a grocery store feels odd. In a department or specialty store, it is different because the conversation can be more specific. A good comparison is the bar, because you at least know the person has drinking or hanging out in common. I was amazed of how many women visit a gun shop or shooting range (and are single.)
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Regarding shopping, talking to a person in a grocery store feels odd. In a department or specialty store, it is different because the conversation can be more specific. A good comparison is the bar, because you at least know the person has drinking or hanging out in common. I was amazed of how many women visit a gun shop or shooting range (and are single.)
Most people suck big time and deserve to die. I am sure as
heck I am not going to actively try to meet somebody unless
it is done in order to achieve some objective.
Then you make an actual friend and he gets cancer and then
COVID the same day, and the Welfare dudes decide to
collectivelly murder the guy by inaction.
Regarding shopping, talking to a person in a grocery store
feels odd. In a department or specialty store, it is
different because the conversation can be more specific. A
good comparison is the bar, because you at least know the
person has drinking or hanging out in common. I was amazed
of how many women visit a gun shop or shooting range (and
are single.)
I knew a friend who consistently failed with establishing a GF.
His modus operandi was to get a girl for a wife and have kids,
and he said that he threw that question out there early in the
dating game. And he wondered why he rarely got a 2nd date.
Then you make an actual friend and he gets cancer and then
COVID the same day, and the Welfare dudes decide to
collectivelly murder the guy by inaction.
Uh-oh. Sorry if I triggered a bad memory.
My point is that ANY chance meeting anywhere can evolve into
purposeful meetings somewhere else if you let it (like a
hobbiest group that two people share interest in, or an evening
college class).
I find it very non-compelling to go to a place in order to
make friends. I am a very task oriented person. If I go to
a place it has to be in order to accomplish some specific
goal. If I befriend somebody doing that, it is great, but
moving my ass in order to talk randomly to people sounds so
off-putting :-(
Open your mind to the possibility of meeting someone
spontaneously whilst doing something else: shopping,
travelling, etc. That person could very well make a good
difference in your life.
Uh-oh. Sorry if I triggered a bad memory.
I knew a friend who consistently failed with establishing a GF.
His modus operandi was to get a girl for a wife and have kids,
and he said that he threw that question out there early in the
dating game. And he wondered why he rarely got a 2nd date.
MRO wrote to Ogg <=-
i'm sure approaching someone when they are shopping is totally NOT
creepy.
also traveling alone is creepy.
also traveling alone is creepy.
That statement is just plain silly. A lot of people travel alone, whether it's because of work, events, family. Single people travel all the time, whether by themselves or with family or friends (like a girls trip to Vegas!). Traveling alone or traveling while single can be absolutely thrilling, it's already like an adventure. Meeting someone while on an adventure? That leads to wonderful stories that a person can tell for a lifetime!
Re: a very task oriented pers
By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Sep 19 2022 10:15 pm
Re: a very task oriented pers
By: MRO to Ogg on Mon Sep 19 2022 02:58 pm
Re: a very task oriented person
By: Ogg to Arelor on Mon Sep 19 2022 08:00 am
Open your mind to the possibility of meeting someone
spontaneously whilst doing something else: shopping,
travelling, etc. That person could very well make a good difference in your life.
i'm sure approaching someone when they are shopping is totally NOT cre
also traveling alone is creepy.
My aunt is a very social person. One time I flew with to a wedding in N York, and during the holdovers in between fights we'd stop in a bar and f a random person to talk to. She used to be a social worker, and could re people pretty well. She would find somethin interesting about what the person is wearing, or maybe it's their age (she liked to help keep an eye oung people traveling) and talk to make time pass. Part of this might've bene done to calm her nerves, since she hated the moment before boarding plane. The conversation was small talk, nothing giving away personal information or anything current or relevant.
Regarding shopping, talking to a person in a grocery store feels odd. In department or specialty store, it is different because the conversation c be more specific. A good comparison is the bar, because you at least kno the person has drinking or hanging out in common. I was amazed of how ma women visit a gun shop or shooting range (and are single.)
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There is a difference between sparking up some friendly talk with somebody y supposed to be talking to, and trying to get a conversation started out of t Big difference.
See, if I go order a burger from the local bar, and the bar is not very busy our, and I bring some subject up with the barman as he prepares the burguer, not creepy.*
If I go to Logistics with a bulk of packages and bring some spontaneous conv with the counter guy as he labels the packages and places them in the convey that is not creepy.*
If you go to a bar and walk to a random guy and start talking about the weat is very, VERY WHAT THE FUCK.
*Asuming the conversation does not distract people from their task, obviousl
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Re: a very task oriented pers
By: Moondog to MRO on Mon Sep 19 2022 10:15 pm
Regarding shopping, talking to a person in a grocery store feels odd. In department or specialty store, it is different because the conversation c be more specific. A good comparison is the bar, because you at least kno the person has drinking or hanging out in common. I was amazed of how ma women visit a gun shop or shooting range (and are single.)
they may SAY they are single, but there's probably a dude or two who would b
Hello Moondog!
** On Monday 19.09.22 - 22:15, Moondog wrote to MRO:
Regarding shopping, talking to a person in a grocery store
feels odd. In a department or specialty store, it is
different because the conversation can be more specific. A
good comparison is the bar, because you at least know the
person has drinking or hanging out in common. I was amazed
of how many women visit a gun shop or shooting range (and
are single.)
Talking in a grocery store to people feels odd but not in a gun
shop? There HAS to be some extensive talking beyond personal
ID to know if the women are single. :D
My point is that ANY chance meeting anywhere can evolve into
purposeful meetings somewhere else if you let it (like a
hobbiest group that two people share interest in, or an evening
college class).
Re: a very task oriented person
By: Ogg to Arelor on Tue Sep 20 2022 11:47 pm
I knew a friend who consistently failed with establishing a GF.
His modus operandi was to get a girl for a wife and have kids,
and he said that he threw that question out there early in the
dating game. And he wondered why he rarely got a 2nd date.
Well, if you are trying to sell a product, you first have to convince the bu the product is awesome, and you only talk about the price once the buyer is purchase the product (unless the product's selling point is the price itself
You sure as heck don't try to sell yourself by stating your price upfront, s if it is not a cheap price.
Girls do this all the time, on the other hand, which is a blessing, because you to kick them off the list early.
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There is a difference between sparking up some friendly talk with somebody y supposed to be talking to, and trying to get a conversation started out of t Big difference.
See, if I go order a burger from the local bar, and the bar is not very busy our, and I bring some subject up with the barman as he prepares the burguer, not creepy.*
If I go to Logistics with a bulk of packages and bring some spontaneous conv with the counter guy as he labels the packages and places them in the convey that is not creepy.*
range (and are single.)
they may SAY they are single, but there's probably a dude or two who would b
That is why you do some research and casually ask around to find the truth. The old school gun shop owners are not known for conversation, however modern owners are like bartenders and get to know their customers, and their likes
and buying habits.
Most people suck big time and deserve to die. I am sure as heck I am not going to actively try to meet somebody unless it is done in order to achieve some objective.
Then you make an actual friend and he gets cancer and then COVID the same day, and the Welfare dudes decide to collectivelly murder the guy by inaction.
Re: a very task oriented pers
By: Moondog to MRO on Wed Sep 21 2022 02:45 pm
range (and are single.)
they may SAY they are single, but there's probably a dude or two who would b
That is why you do some research and casually ask around to find the trut The old school gun shop owners are not known for conversation, however modern owners are like bartenders and get to know their customers, and th likes
and buying habits.
stalking
Back in the days people placed ads in personal ads and dating sections of newspapers and dating services, some would mention they are looking for long term relationships and possible marriage to turn away others looking for random casual sex. Best advice is be honest, but avoid looking desperate and
clingy.
I'm a big guy with a football player body. if i'm going up to a woman in a store s
Re: a very task oriented person
By: Arelor to Ogg on Tue Sep 20 2022 01:16 pm
Most people suck big time and deserve to die. I am sure as heck I am not going to actively try to meet somebody unless it is done in order to achieve
some objective.
Then you make an actual friend and he gets cancer and then COVID the same day, and the Welfare dudes decide to collectivelly murder the guy by inaction.
i can't tell if you're just trying to be edgy or something but nihilism is the real
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There is a paradox there.
You cannot be honest if you are desperate, because then you will inevitably show you are desperate and lose. You either act sly and ensure nobody sees you bleeding (which is a good policy in life, actually) or you stop being desperate in the first place.
Best advice is to become powerful enough so you can afford not to give a damn. ie. if you know how to bake your own apple pie, the need for having somebody besides you baking apple pie diminishes.
Ogg wrote to Arelor <=-
I knew a friend who consistently failed with establishing a GF.
His modus operandi was to get a girl for a wife and have kids,
and he said that he threw that question out there early in the
dating game. And he wondered why he rarely got a 2nd date.
Re: a very task oriented pers
By: Moondog to Arelor on Wed Sep 21 2022 03:46 pm
Back in the days people placed ads in personal ads and dating sections of newspapers and dating services, some would mention they are looking for l term relationships and possible marriage to turn away others looking for random casual sex. Best advice is be honest, but avoid looking desperate clingy.
There is a paradox there.
You cannot be honest if you are desperate, because then you will inevitably are desperate and lose. You either act sly and ensure nobody sees you bleedi is a good policy in life, actually) or you stop being desperate in the first
I guess that for an actual desperate person, it is very hard to switch despe off. Desperation in general is rooted in many factors that are not easy to c is easy to tell people not to be desperate, but if the reason they are despe they lack legs and arms and cannot get a job and they are having a bad time one, that is not getting an easy fix...
Best advice is to become powerful enough so you can afford not to give a dam you know how to bake your own apple pie, the need for having somebody beside baking apple pie diminishes.
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Re: a very task oriented pers
By: Arelor to Moondog on Thu Sep 22 2022 01:34 pm
There is a paradox there.
You cannot be honest if you are desperate, because then you will inevitab show you are desperate and lose. You either act sly and ensure nobody see you bleeding (which is a good policy in life, actually) or you stop being desperate in the first place.
i think all courting involves some deception of some type.
then you are together and act like yourself and hope they are okay with that usually women try to change men but that never works.
i'm at the point where i had real long relationshits so i'm not looking for
Best advice is to become powerful enough so you can afford not to give a damn. ie. if you know how to bake your own apple pie, the need for having somebody besides you baking apple pie diminishes.
stop talking about your masturbation.
I disagree about deception. If someone is lying about simple things, what other false pretenses am I getting involved with?
I had to give the opportunity a pass and do some research in order to locate h
elsewhere in a better moment. I am still wondering why that girl was playing w
h her
horse so late at night.
I had to give the opportunity a pass and do some research in order to locate h
elsewhere in a better moment. I am still wondering why that girl was playing w
h her
horse so late at night.
If I saw that around here at 3am, I would think she was either on drugs or has a mental problem (bi-polar or borderline).
MRO wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
If I saw that around here at 3am, I would think she was either on drugs or has a mental problem (bi-polar or borderline).
people say that when i'm cleaning out my basement at 3am
or walking around barefoot outside with a hammer.
it could be i just am used to being up nights and i'm cleaning my
basement or i'm trying to hunt a prowler.
or walking around barefoot outside with a hammer.
it could be i just am used to being up nights and i'm cleaning my
basement or i'm trying to hunt a prowler.
You're hunting a prowler with a hammer? LOL. Ever heard the phrase
"Don't bring a knife to a gunfight"? Hahahaha
You have a lot of prowlers? Is this something you do frequently? LMAO
Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-
or walking around barefoot outside with a hammer.
it could be i just am used to being up nights and i'm cleaning my
basement or i'm trying to hunt a prowler.
You're hunting a prowler with a hammer? LOL. Ever heard the phrase
"Don't bring a knife to a gunfight"? Hahahaha
You have a lot of prowlers? Is this something you do frequently? LMAO
Barefoot too, apparently.. No time to even put on a pair of
slippers or sandals when going outside..
If I saw that around here at 3am, I would think she was either on drugs or has a mental problem (bi-polar or borderline).
people say that when i'm cleaning out my basement at 3am or walking around barefoot outside with a hammer.
it could be i just am used to being up nights and i'm cleaning my basement or m trying to hunt a prowler.
it could be i just am used to being up nights and i'm cleaning my basement or m trying to hunt a prowler.
That could be. I don't think you'd be outside playing around at 3am with a horse, though. :)
I disagree about deception. If someone is lying about simple things, what other false pretenses am I getting involved with?
I had to give the opportunity a pass and do some research in order to loca elsewhere in a better moment. I am still wondering why that girl was playi h her
horse so late at night.
If I saw that around here at 3am, I would think she was either on drugs or has a mental problem (bi-polar or borderline).
Well, that way you can move around pretty much silently, ya know. You
need every advantage you can get when engaging with "prowlers" - they're very crafty. Also, hammers are much quieter than guns.
product (ie. You and hat you can do for the other person) and once you go into that territory, you need to hone your marketing skills.
A big bunch of dating advice out there sounds like marketing classes to me, really. You need to hype the product so it looks better than it is. It can be done without lying, but if everybody else has marketing more aggressive than your's, you are going to have bad trouble selling your product.
If I saw that around here at 3am, I would think she was either on drugs or has a mental problem (bi-polar or borderline).
Well, if I am having trouble sleeping or if I arrive late home, I usually chec
on the horses. Their sleep cycle is not like human's, so if you show up late they are likely to want some pats and play. I am certainly not judgemental there.
Re: a very task oriented pers
By: Moondog to MRO on Fri Sep 23 2022 10:00 am
I disagree about deception. If someone is lying about simple things, wha other false pretenses am I getting involved with?
The issue here is that, in the end of the day, you are just selling a produc (ie. You and hat you can do for the other person) and once you go into that territory, you need to hone your marketing skills.
A big bunch of dating advice out there sounds like marketing classes to me, really. You need to hype the product so it looks better than it is. It can b done without lying, but if everybody else has marketing more aggressive than your's, you are going to have bad trouble selling your product.
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Nightfox wrote to bex <=-
Vegas!). Traveling alone or traveling while single can be absolutely thrilling, it's already like an adventure.
Yep. If I wanted to go somewhere but didn't have anyone to go with, I wouldn't wait around to go with someone. I want to live life, and I'd
go travel alone if nobody went with me.
Re: a very task oriented pers
By: Arelor to Moondog on Sun Sep 25 2022 07:02 am
product (ie. You and hat you can do for the other person) and once you go into that territory, you need to hone your marketing skills.
A big bunch of dating advice out there sounds like marketing classes to m really. You need to hype the product so it looks better than it is. It ca be done without lying, but if everybody else has marketing more aggressiv than your's, you are going to have bad trouble selling your product.
well dont think of it as lying. think of it as putting your best foot forwar
That marketing angle is one of the reasons I do not use or trust dating services. I don't trust profile pictures to be up to date. My brother was
were in their early or mid 20's. he got self conscious about it and tried the Just
For Men hair dye for his beard and mustache, and went too dark. It looked ridiculous and friends and acquaintances spoke their mind and told him he
well dont think of it as lying. think of it as putting your best foot forwar
If reality doesn't come close to the perception as pitched, that is not putting your best foot forward. Instead of overlooking it and treating
that as part of the game, it may lead to more questions regarding what is
Re: a very task oriented pers
By: Moondog to Arelor on Sun Sep 25 2022 11:13 am
That marketing angle is one of the reasons I do not use or trust dating services. I don't trust profile pictures to be up to date. My brother w
this one woman i used to talk to was using those sites. the dude that showe
also i am a germfreak and i have some morals, but I like to check out those on there to see if there's anybody i know. i've spotted 3 coworkers on thos
were in their early or mid 20's. he got self conscious about it and trie the Just
For Men hair dye for his beard and mustache, and went too dark. It looke ridiculous and friends and acquaintances spoke their mind and told him he
that just for men shit is total shit. it oxydizes and doesn't keep for long also you are supposed to go one shade lighter.
for my beard which is now totally white because of women, i use that root to you wash your face with dishsoap and dry it. then put it the dye on for jus
for my hair that has white on the temples now, i use the just for men shampoo. it also oxydizes and the color changes in the tube but it still wo
that is very subtle and works real well. I probably don't need to do this
you have to be careful with this dying your head hair shit. your hair will
Ogg wrote to Moondog <=-
Talking in a grocery store to people feels odd but not in a gun
shop? There HAS to be some extensive talking beyond personal
ID to know if the women are single. :D
Re: a very task oriented pers
By: Moondog to MRO on Sun Sep 25 2022 03:59 pm
well dont think of it as lying. think of it as putting your best foot forwar
If reality doesn't come close to the perception as pitched, that is not putting your best foot forward. Instead of overlooking it and treating that as part of the game, it may lead to more questions regarding what is
yeah and monkeys might fly out of my butt. whats your point.
Arelor wrote to Moondog <=-
A big bunch of dating advice out there sounds like marketing classes to me, really. You need to hype the product so it looks better than it is.
It can be done without lying, but if everybody else has marketing more aggressive than your's, you are going to have bad trouble selling your product.
Arelor wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
Well, if I am having trouble sleeping or if I arrive late home, I
usually check on the horses. Their sleep cycle is not like human's, so
if you show up late they are likely to want some pats and play. I am certainly not judgemental there.
bex wrote to Nightfox <=-
In my late 20s, I was lucky enough to go to Amsterdam for six weeks for work. It was one of the best adventures of my life.
Marketing (at least with regards to personal branding) is all about discovering a problem that the customer has, finding and fixing a customer's problem for a price, and picking a niche to make you the biggest player in the market - at least in the beginning.
If your target niche is "Personal Companionship for Female Babylon 5 Cosplayers", good luck.
MRO wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
If I saw that around here at 3am, I would think she was either on drugs or has a mental problem (bi-polar or borderline).
people say that when i'm cleaning out my basement at 3am or walking
around barefoot outside with a hammer.
MRO wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
i drove around to see where he went but couldnt see him. I called the
police and they couldn't find him. Too bad you can't just shoot people
on sight. eventually it will become that way when it's bad enough. ---
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to bex <=-
I loved work travel, pre-2001. I worked for a European company based
out of London, and we'd have IT all-hands meetings 4 times a year, rotating between my office in San Francisco, London, Paris and Hamburg.
esc wrote to bex <=-
In my late 20s, I was lucky enough to go to Amsterdam for six weeks for work. It was one of the best adventures of my life. I hit all the major
Sounds fantastic!
This reminds me when my ex and I split and I was so utterly depressed I could barely function and I had a work trip to Romania for about three weeks. Let's just say Bucharest was very kind to my broken American
heart at the time. It turned out to be a memorable and amazing trip
which helped pull me out of my funk quick. And I visited places I would likely never have heard of otherwise.
Now *that* is a great story! Have you ever considered writing (or are ou
a writer)? Because you could easily develop that story into a full book. Part memoir, part travelogue.
What was your favorite part of the trip? And your favorite place you traveled?
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to bex <=-
I loved work travel, pre-2001. I worked for a European company based
out of London, and we'd have IT all-hands meetings 4 times a year, rotating between my office in San Francisco,
London, Paris and Hamburg.
bex wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
What are your favorite memories of that trip?
esc wrote to bex <=-
Now *that* is a great story! Have you ever considered writing (or are ou
a writer)? Because you could easily develop that story into a full book. Part memoir, part travelogue.
Perhaps, thanks for the pointer here! Honestly, I would love to write,
The writing thing is tough though, simply because I hate everything I write. But, who knows. It's still actually something I'd love to do.
What was your favorite part of the trip? And your favorite place you traveled?
car and drove to see the Bran Castle, which was the inspiration for Dracula. The castle was fascinating, and while we were exploring, a
crazy snowstorm developed. We had to traverse some narrow mountain
passes to get back to Bucharest in the snow, and halfway up the
tells the starter you have the clutch engaged, which allowed us to
start in gear with no clutch. I had to drive all the way back to
Bucharest in the snow at night ... clutchless ... switching gears
It was a hoot!
Charles Blackburn wrote to bex <=-
I got lucky as a kid....
so when i left school at 16 we spent 8 years in austrlia and i was
lucky enough to go almost everywhere other than tasmania (where my
sister now lives) and darwin. ive dove the great barrier reef, been all
that doesn't count the other "business trips" we tagged along with to bahrain, saudia arabia, and multiple states in the us (i now live in florida), not counting the stop overs in singapore, hong kong, china,
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to bex <=-
1. The Pubs! So social, so friendly, and proper beer.
2. Catching the Chelsea FC, next door to the hotel.
3. The cabinet war rooms and the Army museum in London.
4. Walking around Paris, eating lunch at a sidewalk cafe. Had a group
building painted white with the pride colors striped across the front,
and in huge pink letters, "GAY POLKA BAR". As we walked closer, we
I received the best bit of advice a few years ago. "Give yourself permission to suck." Most people are discouraged when their first draft
is not very good. But almost *everyone's* first draft is not very good. You are just getting ideas down, and those come out ugly in writers like me. Some people say they can pop out ready-to-publish first drafts. Most of the rest of us need at least another draft or two to make the written work into what we see in our mind's eye.
Damn, that is one amazing setting. And a spooky spontaneous destination!
Thank you for sharing that memory! That sounds like an adventure that
will always live on in your memory. And it sounds like a story that
would earn you a free drink or two at a local pub. (:
I am soooo jealous!!! Talk about a wonderful experience. What was your favorite city? I would love to visit Australia, but it seems like every non-human form of Australian life is out to kill all humans. :O
bex wrote to Charles Blackburn <=-
I am soooo jealous!!! Talk about a wonderful experience. What was
your favorite city? I would love to visit Australia, but it seems
like every non-human form of Australian life is out to kill all
humans. :O
bex wrote to esc <=-
I received the best bit of advice a few years ago. "Give yourself permission to suck." Most people are discouraged when their first draft
is not very good. But almost *everyone's* first draft is not very good.
so when i left school at 16 we spent 8 years in austrlia and i wasI am soooo jealous!!! Talk about a wonderful experience. What was your favorite city? I would love to visit Australia, but it seems like every non-human form of Australian life is out to kill all
lucky enough to go almost everywhere other than tasmania (where my
sister now lives) and darwin. ive dove the great barrier reef, been all
humans. :O
I am soooo jealous!!! Talk about a wonderful experience. What was your favorite city? I would love to visit Australia,*gasp* watch out for dropbears!
but it seems like every non-human form of Australian life is out to kill all humans. :O
esc wrote to bex <=-
Now *that* is a great story! Have you ever considered writing (or are o a writer)? Because you could easily develop that story into a full book Part memoir, part travelogue.
Perhaps, thanks for the pointer here! Honestly, I would love to write,
The writing thing is tough though, simply because I hate everything I write. But, who knows. It's still actually something I'd love to do.
I received the best bit of advice a few years ago. "Give yourself permission to suck." Most people are discouraged when their first draft is not very good. But almost *everyone's* first draft is not very good. You are just getting ideas down, and those come out ugly in writers like me. Some people say they can pop out ready-to-publish first drafts. Most of the rest of us need at least another draft or two to make the written work into what we
see in our mind's eye.
What was your favorite part of the trip? And your favorite place you traveled?
car and drove to see the Bran Castle, which was the inspiration for Dracula. The castle was fascinating, and while we were exploring, a
Damn, that is one amazing setting. And a spooky spontaneous destination!
crazy snowstorm developed. We had to traverse some narrow mountain passes to get back to Bucharest in the snow, and halfway up the
tells the starter you have the clutch engaged, which allowed us to start in gear with no clutch. I had to drive all the way back to Bucharest in the snow at night ... clutchless ... switching gears
It was a hoot!
Thank you for sharing that memory! That sounds like an adventure that will always live on in your memory. And it sounds like a story that would earn you a free drink or two at a local pub. (:
-+- Brightening your day. -Bex <3
... "Learn to use ten minutes intelligently. It will pay you huge dividends.
Charles Blackburn wrote to bex <=-
I got lucky as a kid....
so when i left school at 16 we spent 8 years in austrlia and i was lucky enough to go almost everywhere other than tasmania (where my sister now lives) and darwin. ive dove the great barrier reef, been all
that doesn't count the other "business trips" we tagged along with to bahrain, saudia arabia, and multiple states in the us (i now live in florida), not counting the stop overs in singapore, hong kong, china,
I am soooo jealous!!! Talk about a wonderful experience. What was your favorite city? I would love to visit Australia, but it seems like every non-human form of Australian life is out to kill all humans. :O
-+- Brightening your day. -Bex <3
... "Oh, you in trouble dum-dum. You'd better run-run. From Atilla the Hun-h
esc wrote to bex <=-
I received the best bit of advice a few years ago. "Give yourself permission to suck." Most people are discouraged when their first draft
That's some good advice. I suffer from hating most things I create - I don't like my singing voice, for example. And yeah, I don't really give myself permission to suck, I hold myself to an impossible standard.
Thank you for sharing that memory! That sounds like an adventure that
will always live on in your memory. And it sounds like a story that
would earn you a free drink or two at a local pub. (:
Ha! Too bad I don't drink! :P
esc wrote to bex <=-
favorite city? I would love to visit Australia, but it seems like every non-human form of Australian life is out to kill all humans. :O
*gasp* watch out for dropbears!
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to bex <=-
I received the best bit of advice a few years ago. "Give yourself permission to suck." Most people are discouraged when their first draft
is not very good. But almost *everyone's* first draft is not very good.
That's some of the best advice coming out of NANOWRIMO, the National
It's too easy to get discouraged because it's not The Great Gatsby, or
to start wordsmithing to distract from progressing through the novel,
but if you focus on getting a draft out, then making it shine, it's
Charles Blackburn wrote to bex <=-
nah, just treat them with respect and be careful you're fine.
as far as favorite city, i don't know. i think probably alice springs
cus it's a small place considering but it's nice and quiet. as far as a
cardinia ressorvior i beleive it was called. Used to spend hours up
there by myself just listening to music and the animals.
Moondog wrote to bex <=-
process, break it down. Get the idea down first. The instructor
taught the class from the word processing room, which was rows of pc's with pfs: write installed (this was 1988.) It was easier than working
on paper, he told us. We would lay down ideas and the substance first, then continuously modify it until it all makes sense. The pc was an awesome tool for making editing.
Moondog wrote to bex <=-
Speaking of inhospitable environments, i had an idea for a story about colonists from Earth settling other worlds, and how even a Goldilocks Planet (not too big, not too cold, but just right) could be workable,
yet full of inhospitable life forms. The flora and fauna could be
toxic or inedible, and adopting Earth plants and animals to live there could be difficult.
esc wrote to bex <=-
favorite city? I would love to visit Australia, but it seems like every non-human form of Australian life is out to
kill all humans. :O
*gasp* watch out for dropbears!
Holy canoli, I just googled "dropbear" and will now never be able to sleep again! :O
Charles Blackburn wrote to bex <=-
nah, just treat them with respect and be careful you're fine.That's what they said about those aliens before the aliens blew up the White House...
as far as favorite city, i don't know. i think probably alice springs
cus it's a small place considering but it's nice and quiet. as far as a
cardinia ressorvior i beleive it was called. Used to spend hours up
there by myself just listening to music and the animals.
Ah, that sounds so lovely! A pillow, a blanket, a book, the sound of the water lapping against the shore, the sounds of nature as music to my ears...
Yeah, I could definitely spend some time there.
Moondog wrote to bex <=-
process, break it down. Get the idea down first. The instructor taught the class from the word processing room, which was rows of pc's with pfs: write installed (this was 1988.) It was easier than working
I reckon you must have a year or two on me - I was a senior in high school in 1988. We had Apple IIs for the most part, and our English teacher was not all that enthused about computers at all. She was old-school in 1988, I hope that she's caught up with the 1990s by now... :)
on paper, he told us. We would lay down ideas and the substance first, then continuously modify it until it all makes sense. The pc was an awesome tool for making editing.
That sounds like a great method. Finding a system that works for you, and
is flexible enough for a person to tailor it to their style is perfect. My opinion is the tool should be as integral as a desk and a chair - there to support you but otherwise invisible, allowing a writer to put words to
page.
Moondog wrote to bex <=-
Speaking of inhospitable environments, i had an idea for a story about colonists from Earth settling other worlds, and how even a Goldilocks Planet (not too big, not too cold, but just right) could be workable, yet full of inhospitable life forms. The flora and fauna could be toxic or inedible, and adopting Earth plants and animals to live there could be difficult.
That's a great story idea - you should definitely write that! I say that both selfishly, because I want to read that story! But also because it
would be great to build out that idea into your own creation. I love it!
-+- Brightening your day. -Bex <3
... "This is my family. I found it, all on my own. It's little, and broken,
Charles Blackburn wrote to bex <=-
LOL but for the most part, check ya shoes in the morning, watch where
you walk and you'll be fine.
i used to spend hours up there and if you can get up there before they shut the gates you would be up there all night, but what a helluva show
Moondog wrote to bex <=-
I graduated in 88 then went to junior college in the fall of 88. The
library had Apple II'sand Laser 128's (Apple clone) WE received pc's
for cad and drafting the year after I graduated. My high school
drafting teacher was taking a CAD course the next room over from my
Regardles the course of study, any project start out with a plan.
Gather data, then sort and organize it to make sentences, paragraphs
and chapters that make sense.
Moondog wrote to bex <=-
World building is a pain. A new world with it's own rules must also comply to the rules several chapters into the story. Then there's fleshing out integral charaters. Winston Groom author of Forrest Gump, wrote a book where nearly every member in the rifle company was more
than just a name. Other than the primary story, there were several
side stories, and people's names would appear or be brought up which in turn added to their personal story.
Re: a very task oriented person
By: Ogg to Arelor on Tue Sep 20 2022 11:47 pm
I knew a friend who consistently failed with establishing a GF.
His modus operandi was to get a girl for a wife and have kids,
and he said that he threw that question out there early in the
dating game. And he wondered why he rarely got a 2nd date.
i don't think there's anything wrong with being direct, just as long
as the delivery isn't crappy.
Then you make an actual friend and he gets cancer and then
COVID the same day, and the Welfare dudes decide to
collectivelly murder the guy by inaction.
Uh-oh. Sorry if I triggered a bad memory.
millions of people died of covid because they were denied ****HORSE DEWORMER*** and that medication that trump and others took "hydroxychloroquine" and other medicines. that's what happens when you get evil pharmaceutical companies like merck involved with this bullshit. ivermectin is like 1 penny a dose.
it's came out that some of these medications do help covid treatment.
ivermectin is like 1 penny a dose.
it's came out that some of these medications do help covid treatment.
And then it came out that they didn't: https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-06-h orse-dewormer-ivermectin-covid-trials.html https://www.drugs.com/medical-ans wers/hydroxychloroquine-effective-covid-19-353 6024/
Moondog wrote to bex <=-
I graduated in 88 then went to junior college in the fall of 88. The
Hey, that means we are the same age. Class of '88 forever!!!
library had Apple II'sand Laser 128's (Apple clone) WE received pc's for cad and drafting the year after I graduated. My high school drafting teacher was taking a CAD course the next room over from my
I went to a really small high school (90 students, I graduated in a class
of 20 students) and I don't think we had a drafting class.... but don't
hold me to that. I was the resident smart girl - graduated salutatorian - but my interests were in biology and calculus. It's important for one to know her limitations.
Regardles the course of study, any project start out with a plan. Gather data, then sort and organize it to make sentences, paragraphs and chapters that make sense.
It does make sense. My brain doesn't exactly work like that for writing. I can work within sections, like "the first part will be where Rodrigo meets Linda and they become installed, the second part is when Rodrigo goes off
to college and turns into a dick, the last part is when Linda and Rodrigo meet up again 20 years later." Then I just write and write to fill out the sections. After my first draft, then I go in and break up each section into chapters and scenes.
I guess I am backwards regarding writing. :)
-+- Brightening your day. -Bex <3
... "I would make a great queen because I am stubborn - if that is what I wanted
Charles Blackburn wrote to bex <=-
LOL but for the most part, check ya shoes in the morning, watch where
you walk and you'll be fine.
When I was a young'un, I put on my sneakers and felt something weird by my toes. I pulled off that shoe to find a centipede
was hanging out in there! Ever since then, I give my shoes a couple smacks against a chair to
dislodge any creepy crawlies that might've come to viit.
i used to spend hours up there and if you can get up there before they shut the gates you would be up there all night,
but what a helluva show
Have you never watched a horror movie? Because staying anywhere after it closes is the first step towards being murdered!
When I was a young'un, I put on my sneakers and felt something weird by
my toes. I pulled off that shoe to find a centipede was hanging out in there! Eeeeeeeeeeeewww! GROSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
to dislodge any creepy crawlies that might've come to viit.
Moondog wrote to bex <=-
Regardles the course of study, any project start out with a plan. Gather data, then sort and organize it to make sentences, paragraphs and chapters that make sense.
It does make sense. My brain doesn't exactly work like that for writing. I can work within sections, like "the first part will be where Rodrigo meets
It sounds like a character arc has been established. Filling in the
holes is where I'd imagine it gets stickier, depending how charactes evolve over the times between their absences.
Charles Blackburn wrote to bex <=-
When I was a young'un, I put on my sneakers and felt something weird by my toes. I pulled off that shoe to find a centipede
hahaha been there done that. I do the same thing. especially if i've
left them outside for any length of time.
i used to spend hours up there and if you can get up there before theyshut the gates you would be up there all night,
Have you never watched a horror movie? Because staying anywhere after it closes is the first step towards being murdered!
yea.... and so is walking around a cemetary at night LOL....
MRO wrote to Digital Man <=-
ivermectin is like 1 penny a dose.
it's came out that some of these medications do help covid treatment.
And then it came out that they didn't: https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-06-h orse-dewormer-ivermectin-covid-trials.html https://www.drugs.com/medical-ans wers/hydroxychloroquine-effective-covid-19-353 6024/
i didn't follow the money on this article but i bet the pharm companies had their hand in it. merck was big on the anti ivermectin because
they are one of the companies making a vaccine.
it certainly has to be looked into further because these 2 drugs do
show promise. there's some stories that says it doesn't improve
recovery 'much'. that atleast means it does something for some people.
we really understand very little about any of this.
we can't even contain a contagious disease from spreading all over the world in a matter of days. that's pathetic.
through lockdown. This actually
worked very well in some places and
Re: a very task oriented person
Re: a very task oriented person
By: Digital Man to MRO on Mon Oct 24 2022 03:22 pm
ivermectin is like 1 penny a dose.
it's came out that some of these medications do help covid treatment.
And then it came out that they didn't: https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-06-h orse-dewormer-ivermectin-covid-trials.html
https://www.drugs.com/medical-ans wers/hydroxychloroquine-effective-covid-19-353 6024/
yeah until next week when they think it does.
i didn't follow the money on this article but i bet the pharm companies had their hand in it. merck was big on the anti ivermectin
because they are one of the companies making a vaccine.
it certainly has to be looked into further because these 2 drugs do show promise. there's some stories that says it doesn't improve
recovery 'much'.
that atleast means it does something for some people.
we really understand very little about any of this.
we can't even contain a contagious disease from spreading all over the world in a matter of days. that's pathetic.
also ivermectin is more than a 'horse dewormer'; it's a legit drug. of course, people shouldn't take it in huge doses. that's just
stupid.
also ivermectin is more than a 'horse dewormer'; it's a legit drug. of course, people shouldn't take it in huge doses. that's just stupid.
IMO.. Using ivermectin as a treatment for COVID made no sense, as this product is used to deworm horses. Worms and viruses are biologically
a virus isn't alive until it enters a host. Ivermection has been
already proven not to be an effective treatment for COVID.
Open your mind to the possibility of meeting someone
spontaneously whilst doing something else: shopping,
Maybe it's the area I live in, but people here generally don't talk to other shoppers while shopping. But different activities can lend themselves to
Subject: a very task oriented person
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Re: a very task oriented person
By: Nightfox to Ogg on Mon Sep 19 2022 08:37 am
Open your mind to the possibility of meeting someone
spontaneously whilst doing something else: shopping,
Maybe it's the area I live in, but people here generally don't talk to ot shoppers while shopping. But different activities can lend themselves to
If I tried to speak to woman while shopping I'd get the "who are you weirdo
... Have you ever asked a question you weren't supposed to ask?
Maybe it's the area I live in, but people here generally don't talk to
other shoppers while shopping. But different activities can lend
themselves to
If I tried to speak to woman while shopping I'd get the "who are you weirdo" look.
Yeah, I'd probably get the same reaction here. But from what I've heard, it seems there are places where it's more common for people to talk to strangers while shopping.
If I tried to speak to woman while shopping I'd get the "who are you weirdo" look.
Yeah, I'd probably get the same reaction here. But from what I've heard, it seems there are places where it's more common for people to talk to stranger while shopping.
Nightfox
Re: a very task oriented person
By: MRO to Nightfox on Mon Jan 09 2023 01:26 pm
just grab them by the pussy. it doesn't work if you're ugly, though.
It does, but then you have to be rich.
Hustler wrote to Nightfox <=-
Re: a very task oriented person
By: Nightfox to Ogg on Mon Sep 19 2022 08:37 am
Open your mind to the possibility of meeting someone
spontaneously whilst doing something else: shopping,
Maybe it's the area I live in, but people here generally don't talk to other shoppers while shopping. But different activities can lend themselves to
If I tried to speak to woman while shopping I'd get the "who are you weirdo" look.
If I tried to speak to woman while shopping I'd get the "who are you weirdo" look.
That's why I carry gospel tracts... Well, one reason. :-)
It's much easier to start a conversation with the intent to share the Gospel when you can had a million dollar bill. :-) And if it doesn't feel like it's going to be able to be a conversation, then they can still
take the tract home with them.
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