Re: AI-WX Weather Door Is
By: Accession to Tiny on Wed Oct 22 2025 05:19 pm

Currently my desktop is running Linux Mint. It's been stable, the box runs

Me personally, I have nothing bad to say about Mint. I've booted it up multiple times, and it looks and works great.

I've been running Linux Mint on my secondary PC for about 10 years now (though I replaced the PC with a newer one a few years ago), and I've been pretty happy with Mint. I run Plex Media Server on it and I also run my BBS on that machine - For quite a while, I was still running my BBS in Windows in a VM, but a few years ago I moved my BBS to Linux, running in the host OS now (no VM needed for the BBS anymore).

Nightfox

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Re: Linux
By: Nightfox to Accession on Wed Oct 22 2025 04:46 pm

Currently my desktop is running Linux Mint. It's been stable, the
box runs

Me personally, I have nothing bad to say about Mint. I've booted it
up multiple times, and it looks and works great.

I've been running Linux Mint on my secondary PC for about 10 years now (though I replaced the PC with a newer one a few years ago), and I've been pretty happy with Mint. I run Plex Media Server on it and I also run my BBS on that machine - For quite a while, I was still running my BBS in Windows in a VM, but a few years ago I moved my BBS to Linux, running in the host OS now (no VM needed for the BBS anymore).

I run Windows 11 on my Laptop, But I also run Ubuntu 24.04 on a VPS and Raspian on a Raspberry PI 3, the PI runs my mystic BBS.
I Run outwest.synchro.net (Synchronet BBS) on a HP thin Client PC running windows 7.
What VM were you using for your BBS?. just curious.

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Re: Linux
By: Denn to Nightfox on Wed Oct 22 2025 11:11 pm

What VM were you using for your BBS?. just curious.

I was using VirtualBox.

Nightfox

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Re: Linux
By: Nightfox to Denn on Thu Oct 23 2025 07:14 am

By: Denn to Nightfox on Wed Oct 22 2025 11:11 pm

What VM were you using for your BBS?. just curious.

I was using VirtualBox.
Nightfox

Something I'm fairly new to is Proxmox. I'm running a VM of Windows 10 32 bit to host my Synchronet BBS server under it. It's been up about a month now and so far it seems pretty snappy on an older Dell i5 7th gen Intel with 32G memory. I'm also hosting PiHole on the same Proxmox server. I think I like it better than Virtual Box, performance wise.

Lonewolf
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Re: Linux
By: Nightfox to Denn on Thu Oct 23 2025 07:14:05

What VM were you using for your BBS?. just curious.

This BBS runs native on linux. My older DOS BBS runs in 4 DOSBox-X sessions and one node in VirtualBox (to run some utilities that choke in DB-X, like my fido tosser and league door maintenance).
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Re: Linux
By: Lonewolf to Nightfox on Thu Oct 23 2025 05:59 pm

I was using VirtualBox.

Something I'm fairly new to is Proxmox. I'm running a VM of Windows 10 32 bit to host my Synchronet BBS server under it. It's been up about a month now and so far it seems pretty snappy on an older Dell i5 7th gen Intel with 32G memory. I'm also hosting PiHole on the same Proxmox server. I think I like it better than Virtual Box, performance wise.

I haven't used Proxmox. My BBS is noticeably faster running natively in the host OS compared to running in VirtualBox, and I'm curious now what the performance would be running in Proxmox or another VM.. Though I think an advantage of running in the host OS is not needing to have resources taken on the machine by a VM.

Nightfox

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Re: Linux
By: Dumas Walker to Denn on Thu Oct 23 2025 03:05 pm

This BBS runs native on linux. My older DOS BBS runs in 4 DOSBox-X sessions and one node in VirtualBox (to run some utilities that choke in DB-X, like my fido tosser and league door maintenance).

Dosbox has limitations, I like running old dos programs in a VM with MS-DOS6.2.
But I do use DOS box x sometimes or vdos.

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This BBS runs native on linux. My older DOS BBS runs in 4 DOSBox-X sessions and one node in VirtualBox (to run some utilities that choke in DB-X, like my fido tosser and league door maintenance).

Dosbox has limitations, I like running old dos programs in a VM with MS-DOS6.2.
But I do use DOS box x sometimes or vdos.

DOSBox-X supposedly overcomes many/most of them, but I ran into some issues that were just easier to fix by keeping one of my VirtualBox instances
running. I probably could have kept tweaking the configs to get the
offending programs working, but then I figured I would risk breaking
something else.


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Lonewolf wrote to Nightfox <=-

Something I'm fairly new to is Proxmox. I'm running a VM of Windows 10
32 bit to host my Synchronet BBS server under it. It's been up about a month now and so far it seems pretty snappy on an older Dell i5 7th gen Intel with 32G memory. I'm also hosting PiHole on the same Proxmox
server. I think I like it better than Virtual Box, performance wise.

Welcome down the rabbit hole!

I worked with VMWare for a couple of years on high-end hardware, dealt
with VMWare's hardware compatibility list changes, and got used to VMs
being particular about their hardware.

I took the laptop the BBS ran on in bare metal, added some more memory
(it was running 32-bit Windows, so only 4GB) and put Proxmox on it.
Re-installed the BBS as a guest on the same hardware, and it ran
perfectly - plus gave me the ability to do snapshots and run other VMs
as well.



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Re: Re: Linux
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Lonewolf on Sat Oct 25 2025 01:07 pm

I took the laptop the BBS ran on in bare metal, added some more
memory (it was running 32-bit Windows, so only 4GB) and put Proxmox
on it. Re-installed the BBS as a guest on the same hardware,
and it ran perfectly - plus gave me the ability to do snapshots
and run other VMs as well.

long time user of proxmox here, which is the interface to qemu vms.
That is not really an ideal environment to run VMS from a hardware standpoint. I couldn't pick a worse environment, without being ridiculous.
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Re: Re: Linux
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Lonewolf on Sat Oct 25 2025 01:07 pm

Lonewolf wrote to Nightfox <=-

Something I'm fairly new to is Proxmox. I'm running a VM of Windows 10 32
bit to host my Synchronet BBS server under it. It's been up about a month
now and so far it seems pretty snappy on an older Dell i5 7th gen Intel
with 32G memory. I'm also hosting PiHole on the same Proxmox server. I
think I like it better than Virtual Box, performance wise.

Welcome down the rabbit hole!

I worked with VMWare for a couple of years on high-end hardware, dealt with VMWare's hardware compatibility list changes, and got used to VMs being particular about their hardware.

I took the laptop the BBS ran on in bare metal, added some more memory (it was running 32-bit Windows, so only 4GB) and put Proxmox on it. Re-installed the BBS as a guest on the same hardware, and it ran perfectly - plus gave me the ability to do snapshots and run other VMs as well.

Yes, besides the Windows 10 32 bit host for the BBS being very snappy under Proxmox, I like being able to easily back up the VM. Compared to Virtual Box, Proxmox handles resources a lot better in my experience.

Lonewolf
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MRO wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

long time user of proxmox here, which is the interface to qemu vms.
That is not really an ideal environment to run VMS from a hardware standpoint. I couldn't pick a worse environment, without being
ridiculous.

As usual, your post makes no sense.

If you couldn't pick a worse environment (than Proxmox), then *WHY* are
you "a long time user of Proxmox"? Why don't you use something else?

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Dosbox has limitations, I like running old dos programs in a VM with MS-DOS6.2. But I do use DOS box x sometimes or vdos.

I can't speak for DOSBox-X, but vanilla DOSBox doesn't do file locking or anything, which can result in corrupted data for things like BBSes where multiple nodes may be accessing the same files, and expecting locks to behave in an expected way.

VDos I believe does this correctly, VMs will, dosemu(2) does too.

But this is why the DOSBox devs always said on the support forums: don't use DOSBox for non-game software.

Cheers,
RetroSwim

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