• Windows "Telnet"

    From mark firestone@VERT/QBBS to ALL on Tuesday, September 29, 2020 11:33:00
    Here's a question for everyone... what Telnet client do you use?

    I just happened to notice that the horrible Windows Telnet doesn't work correctly with nano, which my BBS uses as full screen editor, yet, every
    other client I've tried works...

    Should I even care?


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to mark firestone on Tuesday, September 29, 2020 11:11:13
    Re: Windows "Telnet"
    By: mark firestone to ALL on Tue Sep 29 2020 11:33 am

    Here's a question for everyone... what Telnet client do you use?

    I just happened to notice that the horrible Windows Telnet doesn't work correctly with nano, which my BBS uses as full screen editor, yet, every other client I've tried works...

    Should I even care?

    You should probably use a proper BBS telnet client. For BBSes, I often use SyncTerm. I think mTelnet is fairly good too.

    Nightfox

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  • From echicken@VERT/ECBBS to mark firestone on Tuesday, September 29, 2020 14:49:12
    Re: Windows "Telnet"
    By: mark firestone to ALL on Tue Sep 29 2020 11:33:00

    I just happened to notice that the horrible Windows Telnet doesn't work correctly with nano, which my BBS uses as full screen editor, yet, every other client I've tried works...

    Should I even care?

    Nah. If someone is using Windows Telnet, that's their problem. The solution is to use a better client.

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  • From Fang-Castro@VERT/FTPBBS to mark firestone on Tuesday, September 29, 2020 11:26:50
    Re: Windows "Telnet"
    By: mark firestone to ALL on Tue Sep 29 2020 11:33 am

    Here's a question for everyone... what Telnet client do you use?

    Putty from my Windows to Linux machine. Netrunner for BBSs.

    I just happened to notice that the horrible Windows Telnet doesn't work correctly with nano, which my BBS uses as full screen editor, yet, every other client I've tried works...

    Users can change their FSE in User Settings if they insist on using Windows' Telnet.

    Should I even care?

    No. =p

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to mark firestone on Tuesday, September 29, 2020 17:00:04
    Re: Windows "Telnet"
    By: mark firestone to ALL on Tue Sep 29 2020 11:33 am

    Here's a question for everyone... what Telnet client do you use?

    I just happened to notice that the horrible Windows Telnet doesn't work correctly
    with nano, which my BBS uses as full screen editor, yet, every
    other client I've tried works...

    Should I even care?

    I use a patched vertion of ckermit on Linux As far as I know it should work on Windows
    too.

    I only use it because it has integration with XMODEM and friends.


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  • From pcmedtek@VERT/COFFEE to mark firestone on Tuesday, September 29, 2020 15:44:25
    Re: Windows "Telnet"
    By: mark firestone to ALL on Tue Sep 29 2020 11:33 am

    Here's a question for everyone... what Telnet client do you use?

    I just happened to notice that the horrible Windows Telnet doesn't work correctly with nano, which my BBS uses as full screen editor, yet, every
    other client I've tried works...

    I personally use qodem which is at qodem.sourceforge.net

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  • From BlaZ@VERT/PNLTYBOX to mark firestone on Tuesday, September 29, 2020 18:13:58
    Re: Windows "Telnet"
    By: mark firestone to ALL on Tue Sep 29 2020 11:33 am

    I think most people use SyncTERM since it's really easy to setup. I'm "old school," so I like using Telix running in DOSBox-X. That takes a bit more setup, but gives it a more authentic look in my opinion.

    BlaZ

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  • From Dennisk@VERT/EOTLBBS to mark firestone on Wednesday, September 30, 2020 02:17:00
    mark firestone wrote to ALL <=-

    Here's a question for everyone... what Telnet client do you use?

    I just happened to notice that the horrible Windows Telnet doesn't work correctly with nano, which my BBS uses as full screen editor, yet,
    every other client I've tried works...

    Should I even care?

    For BBS, it will depend on which system I am on. Usually synchronet, but I may use ZSSH. On DOS machines, mTelnet.

    For regular 'telnet', is anything else aside from BBS, the Linux telnet client or ztelnet if I need file transfers.


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  • From Ed Vance@VERT/CAPCITY2 to mark firestone on Tuesday, September 29, 2020 22:24:00
    09-29-20 11:33 mark firestone wrote to ALL about Windows "Telnet"
    Howdy! Mark,

    @VIA: VERT/QBBS
    @MSGID: <5F735662.112465.dove-gen@vert.synchro.net>
    Here's a question for everyone... what Telnet client do you use?

    I just happened to notice that the horrible Windows Telnet doesn't work correctly with nano, which my BBS uses as full screen editor, yet,
    every other client I've tried works...

    Should I even care?

    This BBS has a Download for HyperTermPE63.EXE in the Files Area.

    http://capitolcityonlinebbs.net

    I hope it would help Your Telnet Problem.

    I've only used it a few times, but it worked.

    I don't Sign On with HyperTermPE63.EXE, Telnet isn't my cup of tea.

    I GET my QWK Packets from the Capitol City Online BBS using FTP.

    Works for Me.

    73 de Ed W9ODR . .


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  • From The Doctor@VERT to Ed Vance on Wednesday, September 30, 2020 06:43:07
    Re: Re: Windows "Telnet"
    By: Ed Vance to mark firestone on Tue Sep 29 2020 10:24 pm

    Thanks for your feedback (this is Mark Firestone from TARDIS BBS)... for some reason some messages haven't made it over there.

    I'm more wondering if anyone even uses the Windows Client, as it doesn't really seem to work correctly and isn't even enabled by default.

    I'll download that client you mentioned to test it.

    Thanks,

    Mark


    09-29-20 11:33 mark firestone wrote to ALL about Windows "Telnet"
    Howdy! Mark,


    This BBS has a Download for HyperTermPE63.EXE in the Files Area.

    http://capitolcityonlinebbs.net

    I hope it would help Your Telnet Problem.

    I've only used it a few times, but it worked.

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  • From Jon Justvig@VERT/STEPPING to mark firestone on Wednesday, September 30, 2020 07:02:00
    ... mark firestone scribbled to ALL in the sand ...

    Here's a question for everyone... what Telnet client do you use?

    Lately I've been using zTelnet for Linux.

    I just happened to notice that the horrible Windows Telnet doesn't work correctly with nano, which my BBS uses as full screen editor, yet,
    every other client I've tried works...

    Check out Netrunner or SyncTerm.

    Should I even care?

    That's your call.

    Sincerely,
    Jon Justvig

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to THE DOCTOR on Wednesday, September 30, 2020 13:34:00
    Thanks for your feedback (this is Mark Firestone from TARDIS BBS)... for some ason some messages haven't made it over there.

    I'm more wondering if anyone even uses the Windows Client, as it doesn't reall
    seem to work correctly and isn't even enabled by default.

    I'll download that client you mentioned to test it.

    This BBS has a Download for HyperTermPE63.EXE in the Files Area.

    One caveat about the client that Ed mentions... I think it is a 32-bit
    package. It used to be included with versions of Win9x, but the version
    found here is newer than those.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, September 30, 2020 20:14:33
    Re: Re: Windows "Telnet"
    By: Dumas Walker to THE DOCTOR on Wed Sep 30 2020 01:34 pm

    Thanks for your feedback (this is Mark Firestone from TARDIS BBS)...
    for some ason some messages haven't made it over there.

    I'm more wondering if anyone even uses the Windows Client, as it
    doesn't reall
    seem to work correctly and isn't even enabled by default.

    I'll download that client you mentioned to test it.

    This BBS has a Download for HyperTermPE63.EXE in the Files Area.

    One caveat about the client that Ed mentions... I think it is a 32-bit package. It used to be included with versions of Win9x, but the version found here is newer than those.



    i still wouldnt use that piece of junk.
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  • From mark firestone@VERT/QBBS to DUMAS WALKER on Thursday, October 01, 2020 03:44:00
    I'll check that out.

    I fixed the issue, by the way. It's was me forgetting about how Unix works. For nano to work right, the TERM enviroment varable needs to be set to vt100. It defaults to something like xterm-256color -- which just about every telnet client just handles -- except the Microsoft one.

    I've only been doing this for 20+ years, so, duh.


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    One caveat about the client that Ed mentions... I think it is a 32-bi package. It used to be included with versions of Win9x, but the versio found here is newer than those



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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to Dumas Walker on Thursday, October 01, 2020 10:37:06
    On 9/30/2020 10:34 AM, Dumas Walker wrote:
    I'm more wondering if anyone even uses the Windows Client, as it doesn't reall
    seem to work correctly and isn't even enabled by default.

    I'll download that client you mentioned to test it.

    > This BBS has a Download for HyperTermPE63.EXE in the Files Area.

    One caveat about the client that Ed mentions... I think it is a 32-bit package. It used to be included with versions of Win9x, but the version found here is newer than those.

    At this point, SyncTERM is probably the best "BBS" terminal client.
    Half the time I just use telnet/ssh from WSL2 Ubuntu with the new
    Microsoft Terminal for Windows. It's surprisingly good, if a little
    rough in the configuration (JSON only currently, no UI)

    Worth mentioning, there's a terminal application called "Hyper" that's
    okay and cross platform. I like the MS Terminal better on windows and
    iTerm2 better on Mac though. I do use Hyper in Linux.

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  • From Tracker1@VERT/TRN to mark firestone on Thursday, October 01, 2020 10:41:10
    On 9/30/2020 8:44 PM, mark firestone wrote:
    I'll check that out.

    I fixed the issue, by the way. It's was me forgetting about how Unix works. For nano to work right, the TERM enviroment varable needs to be set to vt100. It defaults to something like xterm-256color -- which just about every telnet client just handles -- except the Microsoft one.

    nano seems to be working okay for me with my term set to xterm-256color.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Tracker1 on Thursday, October 01, 2020 18:01:47
    Re: Re: Windows "Telnet"
    By: Tracker1 to Dumas Walker on Thu Oct 01 2020 10:37 am

    At this point, SyncTERM is probably the best "BBS" terminal client.

    for linux.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to TRACKER1 on Friday, October 02, 2020 18:12:00
    At this point, SyncTERM is probably the best "BBS" terminal client.
    Half the time I just use telnet/ssh from WSL2 Ubuntu with the new
    Microsoft Terminal for Windows. It's surprisingly good, if a little
    rough in the configuration (JSON only currently, no UI)

    I use SyncTERM and MagiTerm. Like them both.

    Worth mentioning, there's a terminal application called "Hyper" that's
    okay and cross platform. I like the MS Terminal better on windows and
    iTerm2 better on Mac though. I do use Hyper in Linux.

    I have not tried that one. I might need to check it out the next time I am testing terminal apps vs. my bbs.


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  • From hollowone@VERT/AMIGAC to MRO on Saturday, October 03, 2020 20:48:00
    At this point, SyncTERM is probably the best "BBS" terminal client.

    for linux.

    I find it great on Windows as well, perfectly complemented by multimail. That's what I call a 2 month experience ;-) of BBSing here and there.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to hollowone on Saturday, October 03, 2020 14:54:54
    Re: Re: Windows "Telnet"
    By: hollowone to MRO on Sat Oct 03 2020 08:48 pm

    At this point, SyncTERM is probably the best "BBS" terminal client.

    for linux.

    I find it great on Windows as well, perfectly complemented by multimail. That's what I call a 2 month experience ;-) of BBSing here and there.

    i dont think there is a best one for windows; the popular clients are so similar.
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  • From Jon Justvig@VERT/STEPPING to MRO on Sunday, October 04, 2020 21:06:00
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    Re: Re: Windows "Telnet"
    By: hollowone to MRO on Sat Oct 03 2020 08:48 pm

    At this point, SyncTERM is probably the best "BBS" terminal client.

    for linux.

    zTelnet is great for Linux... I'm loving in with CRT. As for Windows, I
    find myself using Netrunner more often. When I first started back to the screen in 2009, I was using SyncTerm as it something I found first when I started my Synchronet BBS. Being they work well together, that's the BBS terminal I used most often then. Since I've been using Mystic more, I find myself more attached to Netrunner.

    Ideally, they're both great terminals, SyncTerm and Netrunner and both work
    on either Windows or Linux. I like Syncterm in a way that as of current, if
    I recall correctly, it has a great BBS list of BBSes to call already on the list.

    I'd like a utility that would convert the Netrunner phone book to SyncTerm
    or vice-versa.

    I find it great on Windows as well, perfectly complemented by multimail. That's what I call a 2 month experience ;-) of BBSing here and there.

    MultiMail is an off-line mail reader I still use today. It works great with QWK packets as I pull them off my Synchronet BBS and try to keep a fresh
    list of messages to read daily and reply to accordingly for those subjects I feel I want to write on or about.

    i dont think there is a best one for windows; the popular clients are
    so similar. ---

    Another thing I like about SyncTerm is that it has RLogin and can
    automatically login with the proper BBS account credientials for that BBS
    that is being called as well as storing a SysOp password for those BBSes I
    have admin access to.

    Sincerely,
    Jon Justvig

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