Hello Marcham!

** On Friday 02.10.20 - 18:24, marcham wrote to poindexter FORTRAN:

As for ThinkPads; ah I miss those machines. Used to ues them
before switching to macOS. The best keyboards you'll even
find - agreed. Well, at least I have this beast to play
around with for now. - Sent from an IBM ThinkPad

My T60 Thinkpad with XP remains my primary machine. The
keyboard is a gem, smooth as butter.

I recently procured a T540p (I needed the additional numeric
keybad) with a switch to Win7pro.

It is a pitty that many people have not had the chance to
experience a Thinkpad keyboard.

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Re: The best keyboards you'll
By: Ogg to All on Fri Oct 02 2020 11:26 pm

Hello Marcham!

** On Friday 02.10.20 - 18:24, marcham wrote to poindexter FORTRAN:

As for ThinkPads; ah I miss those machines. Used to ues them
before switching to macOS. The best keyboards you'll even
find - agreed. Well, at least I have this beast to play
around with for now. - Sent from an IBM ThinkPad

My T60 Thinkpad with XP remains my primary machine. The
keyboard is a gem, smooth as butter.

I recently procured a T540p (I needed the additional numeric
keybad) with a switch to Win7pro.

It is a pitty that many people have not had the chance to
experience a Thinkpad keyboard.

True! There is nothing like a good ThinkPad keyboard! A lot of people seem to love the Mac keyboards, and while I'm a heavy mac user when it comes to
modern computing - that keyboard is something I miss. Although my mechanical keyboard is still a wonder. Might need to start a thread about amazing mechanical keyboards...
- Sent from an IBM ThinkPad

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Hello Marcham!

** On Saturday 03.10.20 - 22:10, marcham wrote to Ogg:

It is a pitty that many people have not had the chance to
experience a Thinkpad keyboard.

True! There is nothing like a good ThinkPad keyboard! A lot
of people seem to love the Mac keyboards, and while I'm a
heavy mac user when it comes to modern computing - that
keyboard is something I miss.

I would plug in a Mac keyboard from my ancient iMac G3 for my
TP60 when I need a numeric keypad. The iMac keyboard is robust
construction. The keys feel a bit spongy, but the key-strike
is satisfyingly confident.

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Re: The best keyboards you'll
By: Marcham to Ogg on Sat Oct 03 2020 10:10 pm

True! There is nothing like a good ThinkPad keyboard! A lot of people seem to love the Mac keyboards, and while I'm a heavy mac user when it comes to modern computing - that keyboard is something I miss. Although my mechanical keyboard is still a wonder. Might need to start a thread about amazing mechanical keyboards...

I am currently typing on an '84 Apple M0110 keyboard. It's one of the best keyboards I've ever typed on... certainly up there with my more modern Corsair Cherry MX Red (K68) mechanical keyboard.

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Hello Andeddu!

** On Sunday 04.10.20 - 06:35, andeddu wrote to Marcham:

I am currently typing on an '84 Apple M0110 keyboard. It's
one of the best keyboards I've ever typed on... certainly up
there with my more modern Corsair Cherry MX Red (K68)
mechanical keyboard.

I've never heard of Corsair making keyboards. How long has
that been around? I like the notion that "there is no audible
click" in the CHERRY MX Red ..very much like the Thinkpad
keyboards. I like the backlit feature.

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Re: Re: The best keyboards you'll
By: Ogg to All on Sun Oct 04 2020 04:57 pm

I've never heard of Corsair making keyboards. How long has
that been around? I like the notion that "there is no audible
click" in the CHERRY MX Red ..very much like the Thinkpad
keyboards. I like the backlit feature.

they make computer stuff, so yeah they've been making keyboards for a long time.
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Re: Re: The best keyboards you'll
By: Ogg to All on Sun Oct 04 2020 04:57 pm

I've never heard of Corsair making keyboards. How long has
that been around? I like the notion that "there is no audible
click" in the CHERRY MX Red ..very much like the Thinkpad
keyboards. I like the backlit feature.

Not sure how long Corsair has been making peripherals however I've had my keyboard for just over 4 years now. I know, there's no echo either when you type on a Cherry MX Red compared to an older 80s/90s keyboard. I love both and can't really say which I prefer more. The newer mechanical keyboards are much better when gaming, that's a given... but I might actually prefer the M0110 for standard typing.

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Hello poindexter!

** On Friday 02.10.20 - 23:55, poindexter.fortran wrote to Ogg:

My T60 Thinkpad with XP remains my primary machine. The
keyboard is a gem, smooth as butter.

I know them well. The BBS is running on a T60 with 3 GB of
RAM and 32-bit Windows 10. Running a BBS on a server makes
for a convenient workaround network issues. My power was
out for several days, so I brought the BBS to work,
connected over wifi, and sent/received my mail packets
from there.

I experimented with a live-boot of Linux Mint Cinnamon on the
T60. It was a nice experience. But.. I rely too much on
existing Windows progs to change.

What kind of HDD do you have on it? My T60 has an original
250GB HDD.. and it's beginning to show space inadequacy. I've
read that people have had good success with refitting them
with SDDs.

Any.. the keyboard is a star player.


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Ogg wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

What kind of HDD do you have on it? My T60 has an original
250GB HDD.. and it's beginning to show space inadequacy. I've
read that people have had good success with refitting them
with SDDs.

Ive got an old Dell OEM SATA SSD drive. They're nice, but one of the
quirks of the "transitional" Thinkpads is that they have a PATA to
SATA "bridge", and only run at PATA speeds - so you don't get as much
of a boost in transfer speeds as you could out of an SSD.

It's still a nice speed bump from a spinning drive.

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On 11/10/2020 10:29 a.m., poindexter FORTRAN wrote:

Ive got an old Dell OEM SATA SSD drive. They're nice, but
one of the quirks of the "transitional" Thinkpads is that
they have a PATA to SATA "bridge", and only run at PATA
speeds - so you don't get as much of a boost in transfer
speeds as you could out of an SSD.

It's still a nice speed bump from a spinning drive.

And.. a fine reduction in heat generation + noise, and battery use.

My T60 with 250GB HDD comes out if Hiberate a bit faster than my
T540p that has a 1TB SSD.

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On 05/10/2020 6:39 a.m., Andeddu wrote:

Not sure how long Corsair has been making peripherals
however I've had my keyboard for just over 4 years now. I
know, there's no echo either when you type on a Cherry MX
Red compared to an older 80s/90s keyboard. I love both and
can't really say which I prefer more. The newer mechanical
keyboards are much better when gaming, that's a given...
but I might actually prefer the M0110 for standard typing.

What is keyboard echo?

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Re: Re: The best keyboards you'll
By: Ogg to Andeddu on Tue Oct 13 2020 03:00 pm

What is keyboard echo?

When you type on an older keyboard there's a distinct echo when pushing down the keys. This doesn't happen with the newer mechanical keyboards... they're a lot quieter.

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Andeddu wrote to Ogg <=-

Re: Re: The best keyboards you'll
By: Ogg to Andeddu on Tue Oct 13 2020 03:00 pm

What is keyboard echo?

When you type on an older keyboard there's a distinct echo when
pushing down the keys. This doesn't happen with the newer
mechanical keyboards... they're a lot quieter.

That's not an "echo". It's a "sound".

"Keyboard echo" is something entirely different, and it's got
nothing to do with sound. Look it up.



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Re: Re: The best keyboards you'll
By: Gamgee to Andeddu on Wed Oct 14 2020 07:48 am

What is keyboard echo?

When you type on an older keyboard there's a distinct echo when
pushing down the keys. This doesn't happen with the newer
mechanical keyboards... they're a lot quieter.

That's not an "echo". It's a "sound".

"Keyboard echo" is something entirely different, and it's got
nothing to do with sound. Look it up.

That's what I was thinking too.. Keyboard echo is when the typed keys get echoed back onto the screen.

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Re: Re: The best keyboards you'll
By: Nightfox to Gamgee on Wed Oct 14 2020 08:25 am

That's what I was thinking too.. Keyboard echo is when the typed keys get echoed back onto the screen.

Never heard of that before. I am talking about sound... I get an echo when typing on an old keyboard.

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Re: Re: The best keyboards you'll
By: Nightfox to Gamgee on Wed Oct 14 2020 08:25 am

That's what I was thinking too.. Keyboard echo is when the typed keys get echoed back onto the screen.

Never heard of that before.

Have you ever heard the term "n00b"?

I am talking about sound... I get an
echo when typing on an old keyboard.

No, you get a sound. Not an echo.



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Ogg wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

My T60 with 250GB HDD comes out if Hiberate a bit faster than my
T540p that has a 1TB SSD.

I think that's driven by how much memory is in the system, because
it's writing a copy of memory to disk?

Assuming you have more memory in the T540p. :)



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On 10/15/2020 6:22 PM, Gamgee wrote:

I am talking about sound... I get an
echo when typing on an old keyboard.

No, you get a sound. Not an echo.

You're right, the "echo" is the terminal reference...

If you're using a classic buckling spring keyboard and on speakerphone,
then others will tend to head an echo/reverberation when you type... but that's a different issue, but probably what Gamgee is thinking of.


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Hello poindexter!

** On Thursday 15.10.20 - 10:30, poindexter.fortran wrote to Ogg:

My T60 with 250GB HDD comes out if Hiberate a bit faster
than my T540p that has a 1TB SSD.

I think that's driven by how much memory is in the system,
because it's writing a copy of memory to disk?

Assuming you have more memory in the T540p. :)

T540p/Win7 = 8GB ram
T60/XP = 3GB ram

And.. and the reference point for restoring from hibernate is
that both pcs have no progs running prior to Hibernate.

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