I've thought about buying a new laptop, as the laptop I currently have is one I bought in 2014.. I've thought about buying a Framework laptop - I like their open-source design and that you can repair/upgrade them easily, but they're quite expensive. I might end up buying a more mainstream laptop..

https://frame.work/products/laptop16-diy-amd-ai300/configuration/new

Nightfox

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Re: Framework laptop
By: Nightfox to All on Tue Sep 09 2025 04:08 pm

I've thought about buying a new laptop, as the laptop I currently have is one I bought in 2014.. I've thought about buying a Framework laptop - I like their open-source design and that you can repair/upgrade them easily, but they're quite expensive. I might end up buying a more mainstream laptop..

https://frame.work/products/laptop16-diy-amd-ai300/configuration/new

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Nightfox wrote to All <=-

I've thought about buying a new laptop, as the laptop I currently have
is one I bought in 2014.. I've thought about buying a Framework laptop
- I like their open-source design and that you can repair/upgrade them easily, but they're quite expensive. I might end up buying a more mainstream laptop..

https://frame.work/products/laptop16-diy-amd-ai300/configuration/new

I've been using a Framework 16 for about a year now, and love it. Mine
is a Ryzen-9, 32GB, without the add-on Nvidia graphics module. Not
cheap, but as you said very ugradeable/customizable, and easy to work on
if needed. I added the numeric keypad option as well. Haven't had any trouble with it and it's Linux-friendly. I'd give it a "highly recommended" rating.



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Nightfox wrote to All <=-

I've thought about buying a new laptop, as the laptop I currently have
is one I bought in 2014..

For a Thinkpad, that's middle aged. :)

Rocking a T450s here... 2 core, 4 threads, 24 GB RAM.



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Re: Framework laptop
By: Nightfox to All on Tue Sep 09 2025 04:08 pm

bought in 2014.. I've thought about
buying a Framework laptop - I like
their open-source design and that yo

Make sure to read some reviews on the
latest models. For awhile they had
some issues with the displays. They
would easily wobble while you were
typing and a lot of them would have the
picture cut out, the backlight cut out,
or just have weird lines on the screen.
It happened to a couple that I talk to
online.
That's if you are leaning towards the
Framework, that is.

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Re: Framework laptop
By: phigan to Nightfox on Thu Sep 18 2025 06:48 am

It happened to a couple that I talk

Happened to a couple PENOPLE that etc.

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Re: Framework laptop
By: phigan to Nightfox on Thu Sep 18 2025 06:50 am

Happened to a couple PENOPLE that et

Apparently I need help :D

I give up typing for the day.

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Re: Framework laptop
By: Nightfox to All on Tue Sep 09 2025 04:08 pm

bought in 2014.. I've thought about
buying a Framework laptop - I like
their open-source design and that yo

Make sure to read some reviews on the
latest models. For awhile they had
some issues with the displays. They
would easily wobble while you were
typing and a lot of them would have the
picture cut out, the backlight cut out,
or just have weird lines on the screen.
It happened to a couple that I talk to
online.

I've been using a Framework 16 for about a year and have had zero
problems. Very happy with it.




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Re: Framework laptop
By: Nightfox to All on Tue Sep 09 2025 04:08 pm

Just saw this post and thought I would share ...


Msg#: 2/3
From: BleepingComputer
To : All
Subj: Secure Boot bypass risk threatens nearly 200,000 Linux Framework laptops
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2025 10:05:25 EDT ¨

Around 200,000 Linux computer systems from American computer maker Framework were shipped with signed UEFI shell components that could be
exploited to bypass Secure Boot protections. [...]

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/secure-boot-bypass-risk-on-nearly-200-000-linux-framework-sytems/
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Nightfox wrote to All <=-

I've thought about buying a new laptop, as the laptop I currently have
is one I bought in 2014.. I've thought about buying a Framework laptop
- I like their open-source design and that you can repair/upgrade them easily, but they're quite expensive. I might end up buying a more mainstream laptop..

There's a lot to be said for an off-lease Thinkpad or Dell XPS laptop...



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poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Nightfox <=-

I've thought about buying a new laptop, as the laptop I currently have
is one I bought in 2014.. I've thought about buying a Framework laptop
- I like their open-source design and that you can repair/upgrade them easily, but they're quite expensive. I might end up buying a more mainstream laptop..

There's a lot to be said for an off-lease Thinkpad or Dell XPS
laptop...

What exactly is an "off-lease" laptop, and where would you find one?




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Re: Re: Framework laptop
By: Gamgee to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Oct 27 2025 02:33 pm

There's a lot to be said for an off-lease Thinkpad or Dell XPS laptop...

What exactly is an "off-lease" laptop, and where would you find one?

I believe an off-lease laptop is (or is similar to) a laptop that was used, for instance, by a company in an office for one of their employees and they've decided to replace that laptop after a period of time. I think sometimes you can find them on eBay, or maybe the company might decide to sell them somewhere else.

The PC I'm currently running my BBS on is a small Dell workstation that I bought on eBay, and from what I remember, the auction said it was such a PC that a company was using that they decided they didn't need anymore and decided to sell it on eBay; they were selling a bunch of such PCs on eBay. It didn't have any storage in it, so I had to provide my own storage device - Perhaps the computer's IT company took the storage out of it so they could make sure they securely erase it or something.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Framework laptop
By: Gamgee to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Oct 27 2025 02:33 pm

What exactly is an "off-lease" laptop, and where would you find one?

Aside from eBay, it looks like Dell also sells them directly - This is a page on Dell's web site titled "Shop Refurbished Laptops And Off-Lease Laptops":

https://www.dellrefurbished.com/laptops

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Framework laptop
By: Gamgee to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Oct 27 2025 02:33 pm

There's a lot to be said for an off-lease Thinkpad or Dell XPS laptop...

What exactly is an "off-lease" laptop, and where would you find one?

I believe an off-lease laptop is (or is similar to) a laptop that was used, for instance, by a company in an office for one of their
employees and they've decided to replace that laptop after a period of time. I think sometimes you can find them on eBay, or maybe the company might decide to sell them somewhere else.

Okay, cool, thanks for the explanation.



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Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-

Re: Re: Framework laptop
By: Gamgee to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Oct 27 2025 02:33 pm

What exactly is an "off-lease" laptop, and where would you find one?

Aside from eBay, it looks like Dell also sells them directly - This is
a page on Dell's web site titled "Shop Refurbished Laptops And
Off-Lease Laptops":

https://www.dellrefurbished.com/laptops

Interesting... thanks again for the info!



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