• mission impossible

    From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.2989 to Wilfred van Velzen on Monday, January 10, 2022 20:37:29
    Hey Wilfred!

    Who says a point can't use a type 2 pktHeader?

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Dreamas sind gewitene, wuniað þa wacran ond þæs woruld healdaþ.
    Joys are departed; weaker ones now live and hold the world.
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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Maurice Kinal on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 05:02:01
    Hey Maurice!

    Who says a point can't use a type 2 pktHeader?

    Not me that's for sure but then again it depends where you are pointing from.

    You are a joy to work with. Keep the faith.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Swa monige beoþ men ofer eorþan, swa beoþ modgeþoncas.
    There are as many opinions as there are people on earth.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.8(1)-release (x86_64-moosile-linux-gnu)
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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Maurice Kinal on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 09:49:00
    Hi Maurice,

    On 2022-01-10 20:37:29, you wrote to me:

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    @TZ: UTC+08:15:02

    Both are nice but not useful, because there is no software (maybe besides your own), that uses these non standard kludges.

    Hey Wilfred!

    Who says a point can't use a type 2 pktHeader?

    What's your obsession with these (unused) pktHeaders? ;-)

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.2989 to Wilfred van Velzen on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 06:51:42
    Hey Wilfred!

    Both are nice but not useful

    No less useful than any other kludge.

    What's your obsession with these (unused) pktHeaders? ;-)

    It *is* the de facto standard regardless of my 'obsession' with it. At a barebones minimum, my software can and does support them in spite of any obsessions I may or may not have with 'standards'.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... [Læt] þine lareowas leofe in mode þa þec geornast to gode trymmen.
    Hold your teachers dear in mind, who eagerly urge you to good.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.8(1)-release (x86_64-moosile-linux-gnu)
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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Maurice Kinal on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 16:39:59
    Hi Maurice,

    On 2022-01-11 06:51:42, you wrote to me:

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    Both are nice but not useful

    No less useful than any other kludge.

    Your wrong there! Most kludges are useful because they are used by message readers, and the MSGID kludge plays an important part in good dupe detection, for instance... Your kludges are used by no software, they are only useful for entertainment purposes. ;-)

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.2989 to Wilfred van Velzen on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 07:39:50
    Hey Wilfred!

    No less useful than any other kludge.

    Your wrong there!

    I am not yet wrong, nor does wrong belong to me.

    Most kludges are useful because they are used by message readers

    Understood. But that in itself doesn't make them (kludges) something that is useful or even correct by anyone's standards. The CHRS kludge comes to mind as something that is not only wrong, but indeed useless especially if you got suckered into the idea that it is required.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Nu hit ys on swines dome, cwæð se ceorl sæt on eoferes hricge.
    It's up to the pig now, said the man sat on the boar's back.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.8(1)-release (x86_64-moosile-linux-gnu)
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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Maurice Kinal on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 18:42:07
    Hi Maurice,

    On 2022-01-11 07:39:50, you wrote to me:

    Most kludges are useful because they are used by message readers

    Understood. But that in itself doesn't make them (kludges) something that is useful or even correct by anyone's standards. The CHRS kludge comes to mind as something that is not only wrong, but indeed useless especially if you got suckered into the idea that it is required.

    We had this discussion before, no need to have it again... ;-)

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.2989 to Wilfred van Velzen on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 09:54:21
    Hey Wilfred!

    We had this discussion before, no need to have it again

    Other then to add, "That's my story and I'm sticking to it.", I agree.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Wyrd biþ swiþre, Meotud meahtigra, þonne ænges monnes gehygd.
    Fate is stronger, the Lord mightier, than any man's thoughts.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.8(1)-release (x86_64-moosile-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: One of us @ (1:153/7001.2989)
  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Maurice Kinal on Saturday, January 15, 2022 10:51:40
    Re: mission impossible
    By: Maurice Kinal to Maurice Kinal on Tue Jan 11 2022 05:02 am

    Hey Maurice!

    Who says a point can't use a type 2 pktHeader?

    Not me that's for sure but then again it depends where you are pointing from

    You are a joy to work with. Keep the faith.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Swa monige beoþ men ofer eorþan, swa beoþ modgeþoncas.
    There are as many opinions as there are people on earth.

    LOL!

    Finally found the C++ I needed.

    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-US/cpp/windows/latest-supported-vc-redist?view=ms vc-170#visual-studio-2010-vc-100-sp1-no-longer-supported

    xxcarol
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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Wilfred van Velzen on Saturday, January 15, 2022 10:52:34
    Re: Re: mission impossible
    By: Wilfred van Velzen to Maurice Kinal on Tue Jan 11 2022 09:49 am

    Hi Maurice,

    On 2022-01-10 20:37:29, you wrote to me:

    @MSGID: 1:153/7001.2989 61dd0d0f

    @ENCODING: UTF-8
    @TZ: UTC+08:15:02

    Both are nice but not useful, because there is no software (maybe besides yo own), that uses these non standard kludges.

    Hey Wilfred!

    Who says a point can't use a type 2 pktHeader?

    What's your obsession with these (unused) pktHeaders? ;-)

    Bye, Wilfred.


    He likes to play.
    xxcarol
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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Carol Shenkenberger on Saturday, January 15, 2022 17:49:31
    Hi Carol,

    On 2022-01-15 10:52:34, you wrote to me:

    Who says a point can't use a type 2 pktHeader?

    What's your obsession with these (unused) pktHeaders? ;-)

    He likes to play.

    ... And be vocal about it! ;-)

    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Carol Shenkenberger on Saturday, January 15, 2022 16:56:57
    Hey Carol!

    Finally found the C++ I needed.

    X86 and/or X64?

    I can't say I know much about it and only ran across a working copy way back when it first was a thing. The price is right. :-)

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Don't cry for me I have vi.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.8(1)-release (x86_64-moosile-linux-gnu)
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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Wilfred van Velzen on Saturday, January 15, 2022 17:08:33
    Hey Wilfred!

    ... And be vocal about it! ;-)

    Someone has to keep you people honest. ;-)

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Don't cry for me I have vi.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.8(1)-release (x86_64-moosile-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)
  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Maurice Kinal on Saturday, January 15, 2022 14:40:34
    Re: mission impossible
    By: Maurice Kinal to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Jan 15 2022 04:56 pm

    Hey Carol!

    Finally found the C++ I needed.

    X86 and/or X64?

    I can't say I know much about it and only ran across a working copy way back when it first was a thing. The price is right. :-)

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Don't cry for me I have vi.

    X86. I'm 32bit here.

    xxcarol
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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Carol Shenkenberger on Saturday, January 15, 2022 20:36:35
    Hey Carol!

    X86. I'm 32bit here.

    Cool. The last 32-bit I had running here was a 486 that decided to pack it in somewhere around 2005-ish. It had gcc-4 (c only) to take care of itself. Before that it was dual 933 PIII's that I used to cross compile the first 64-bit gcc-4 that successfully booted on a x86_64 AMD Sempron which was the very first x86_64 gcc-4 (32-bit and 64-bit). I am not sure what year that was but before the 486 decided to pack it in. ::sigh:::

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Don't cry for me I have vi.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.1.8(1)-release (x86_64-moosile-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)