• Re: Tear Lines (Was: Synchronet vs. Mystic)

    From Dallas Vinson@1:123/256 to Sean Dennis on Saturday, May 28, 2022 03:46:00
    Any reason you have two tearlines in your messages?


    Hey Sean, I think one is a sig line and the other is added by the BBS itself. This is the first Echo I've noticed it doing that in.
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  • From Mike Miller@1:154/30.1 to Dallas Vinson on Saturday, May 28, 2022 08:52:18
    Hello, Dallas Vinson.
    On 5/28/22 3:46 AM you wrote:

    Any reason you have two tearlines in your messages?
    Hey Sean, I think one is a sig line and the other is added by the
    BBS itself. This is the first Echo I've noticed it doing that in.
    What adds your signature? I know some modern email programs add 3 dashes before a signature, but I don't know of any BBS/offline readers that do that.

    I'm using HotdogEd here, and it adds 2 before the signature.


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    Mike
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dallas Vinson on Saturday, May 28, 2022 11:14:17
    Hello Dallas,

    28 May 22 03:46, you wrote to me:

    Hey Sean, I think one is a sig line and the other is added by the BBS itself. This is the first Echo I've noticed it doing that in.

    Just wanted to let you know. That might confuse older tossers.

    -- Sean

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  • From Dallas Vinson@1:123/256 to Mike Miller on Sunday, May 29, 2022 05:04:00
    What adds your signature? I know some modern email programs add 3 dashes before a signature, but I don't know of any BBS/offline readers that do that.

    Mystic has it as an option in the users personal setting to auto add a sig to the end of your messages. I add the --- at the end of my message porson myself just because that's the way I was taught to show the end of my messages online.
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  • From T.J. Mcmillen@1:229/426 to Dallas Vinson on Sunday, May 29, 2022 12:43:30


    the end of your messages. I add the --- at the end of my message porson mys just because that's the way I was taught to show the end of my messages onl

    Then you better unlearn that if you want to use FidoNet, as that is not policy.

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  • From Dan Clough@1:123/115 to Dallas Vinson on Sunday, May 29, 2022 12:25:00
    Dallas Vinson wrote to Mike Miller <=-

    What adds your signature? I know some modern email programs add 3 dashes before a signature, but I don't know of any BBS/offline readers that do that.

    Mystic has it as an option in the users personal setting to auto
    add a sig to the end of your messages. I add the --- at the end
    of my message porson myself just because that's the way I was
    taught to show the end of my messages online. -*-

    Who "taught" you that???

    It's not an accepted practice and should be discontinued.


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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dallas Vinson on Sunday, May 29, 2022 15:01:28
    Dallas Vinson wrote to Mike Miller <=-

    Mystic has it as an option in the users personal setting to auto add a
    sig to the end of your messages. I add the -+- at the end of my message porson myself just because that's the way I was taught to show the end
    of my messages online.

    That's considered a "bad thing" in Fidonet by using three dashes like that
    as a tosser can see that as a tearline and think that is the end of a
    message. Double tearlines can cause technical isses with older
    tossers...then that can constiute "annoying behavior" according to Policy.

    So I'm recommending you use two dashes instead of three to avoid any
    technical issues (see my own signature below). I do not care myself but as co-moderator of this echo I need to help prevent any problems. :)

    -- Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to T.J. Mcmillen on Sunday, May 29, 2022 15:08:29
    T.J. Mcmillen wrote to Dallas Vinson <=-

    Then you better unlearn that if you want to use FidoNet, as that is not policy.

    Please show me in P4 where that action is not "policy". I am sure it's mentioned in a FTSC document as a technical issue. I don't consider
    that "annoying behavior" since it was not meant to be.

    Ease up on the pontification and let the moderators handle this.

    -- Sean

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  • From T.J. Mcmillen@1:129/305 to Sean Dennis on Sunday, May 29, 2022 15:57:01
    Please show me in P4 where that action is not "policy". I am sure it's mentioned in a FTSC document as a technical issue. I don't consider
    that "annoying behavior" since it was not meant to be.

    Ease up on the pontification and let the moderators handle this.

    Word.

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  • From Dallas Vinson@1:123/256 to T.J. Mcmillen on Sunday, May 29, 2022 15:01:10
    Then you better unlearn that if you want to use FidoNet, as that is not policy.

    That's what I was taught to be policy FOR Fido, as that was the only network around at the time.

    As for the sig line, I have turned off the autosig option for all my Fido feeds, so that should clear up the issue of having both a sig line and an Origin line.
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  • From Dallas Vinson@1:123/256 to Sean Dennis on Sunday, May 29, 2022 15:07:14
    That's considered a "bad thing" in Fidonet by using three dashes like
    that as a tosser can see that as a tearline and think that is the end of
    a message. Double tearlines can cause technical isses with older tossers...then that can constiute "annoying behavior" according to
    Policy.

    OOOHHHHHHH, The Dashes are the issue? I thought you were talking about the Sig line and the Origin lines repeating the same information. Mike Cothran taught me that the 3 dashes were needed to let the fido system know it was the end of the message. Ok, I'll just stop using them then. In all my years on Fido, this is the first time anyone has ever said anything to me about the 3 dashes.

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  • From T.J. Mcmillen@1:229/426 to Dallas Vinson on Sunday, May 29, 2022 17:56:07
    OOOHHHHHHH, The Dashes are the issue? I thought you were talking about the line and the Origin lines repeating the same information. Mike Cothran taug

    He must've been using some crap software. :)

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  • From Jas Hud@1:103/705 to Sean Dennis on Sunday, May 29, 2022 17:11:47
    To: Sean Dennis
    Re: Re: Tear Lines (Was: Synchronet vs. Mystic)
    By: Sean Dennis to Dallas Vinson on Sun May 29 2022 03:01 pm

    So I'm recommending you use two dashes instead of three to avoid any technical issues (see my own signature below). I do not care myself but as co-moderator of this echo I need to help prevent any problems. :)

    -- Sean

    i've always used two dashes and a CRLF in emails.
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