Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-
I try not to take my cellphone with me anywhere because I don't like to receive phone calls or texts while I'm out and about. And since my wife always takes her phone everywhere, I thought that I could log in to my Gmail account on her phone if needed.
receive phone calls or texts while I'm out and about. And since my wi always takes her phone everywhere, I thought that I could log in to m Gmail account on her phone if needed.
Why would you need to check your gmail account? Are you on call?
There's a lot to be said, as I'm sure you've seen, of going for a walk
and being present. I listen to podcasts on walks, but leaving the house with just me and my dog is a welcome change.
I try not to take my cellphone with me anywhere because I don't like to receive phone calls or texts while I'm out and about. And since my wife always takes her phone everywhere, I thought that I could log in to my Gmail account on her phone if needed.
I was wrong. I can't do that. It said "You're trying to log in on an unknown device." So then to verify that "it's really me," Gmail offered
to send a code to my phone. But that wouldn't work because I didn't
have my phone with me. There was a button that said "Try another way.." but that literally was a fake button and it didn't do anything.
So Google is trying to teach guys like me a lesson: "Take your phone
with you everywhere, or else you won't be able to touch your Gmail account."
So Google is trying to teach guys like me a lesson: "Take your phone with you everywhere, or else you won't be able to touch your Gmail account."
This isn't a conspiracy but a security feature that prevents others from accessing your email account. In the case of google, I don't remember
for sure, but the "Try another way" probably only works if you have set
up another verification contact method for your gmail account. If you only gave it a phone number to text you at, there are no "another ways" left for it to try.
I try not to take my cellphone with me anywhere because I don't like to recei>phone calls or texts while I'm out and about. And since my wife always takes
I was wrong. I can't do that. It said "You're trying to log in on an unknown>ice." So then to verify that "it's really me," Gmail offered to send a code t
There's a lot to be said, as I'm sure you've seen, of going for a walk
and being present. I listen to podcasts on walks, but leaving the house
with just me and my dog is a welcome change.
We could all be more present.
This isn't a conspiracy but a security feature that prevents others from accessing your email account. In the case of google, I don't remember for sure, but the "Try another way" probably only works if you have set up another verification contact method for your gmail account. If you only gave it a phone number to text you at, there are no "another ways" left for it to try.
I checked my google settings (security section) and 2-step verification is turned off, and I have a "recovery email" address listed, but the "Try another
way" button didn't offer to contact me via my recovery email address.
2-factor verification is turned off, and Google does NOT make me use 2-factor verification when I access my account through my phone or my PC, but the malfunction only occurs when I try to access my account from someone else's phone.
Aaron Thomas wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
Sometimes I'm out somewhere and I decide that I want to buy something,
but then I'll need to do a transfer in my online banking, and my online banking requires 2 factor authentication.
There's a lot to be said, as I'm sure you've seen, of going for a walk
and being present. I listen to podcasts on walks, but leaving the house with just me and my dog is a welcome change.
There's a lot to gain by leaving your phone at home (until you need to check your Gmail.) People look like dicks when they are glued to their phones all the time. Have you ever had a conversation with a person who was staring at a phone? (It's not friendly.)
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Mike Powell wrote to Aaron Thomas <=-
This isn't a conspiracy but a security feature that prevents others
from accessing your email account. In the case of google, I don't remember for sure, but the "Try another way" probably only works if you have set up another verification contact method for your gmail account.
If you only gave it a phone number to text you at, there are no
"another ways" left for it to try.
I've never been a big fan of Gmail, although you pretty much have to
sign up for it to keep your Phone and Tablet updated. What I did was
go to gMail and set it up to forward all incoming mail to my other
main eMail address so I don't miss anything and anyone I do want to
reply to I can reply from my other eMail address and switch them over.
length of time, but I don't like being disturbed either so, unless
I'm expecting a serious call, I put the phone on Airplane Mode.
This saves battery power but allows for a quick startup if needed
and the phone is still functional for a lot of other things like
Camera and Games or as an eReader, etc..
2-factor verification is turned off, and Google does NOT make me use 2-f verification when I access my account through my phone or my PC, but the malfunction only occurs when I try to access my account from someone els phone.
It doesn't make me use it if I try to access YT or Gmail from my PC (so long as I am using the same PC and also not a private session). It is
the unrecognized device... phone, PC, tablet, or otherwise... that is triggering this feature.
We have friends, my age (approaching 60) that, with a gap in the conversation with reach for their phones - when at restaurants, or even
at our house having a glass of wine. When you think that social networks were designed with the input from behaviorists to be addictive, it makes sense.
Did I mention that my daughter's high school is having phone-free
Fridays? It's interesting seeing her reaction. Mostly her issue is with not being able to locate her friends at lunch. They turn on location services and let each other see where they are... :|
Unless I am planning to use the camera for something, I don't take my phone on walks.
It doesn't make me use it if I try to access YT or Gmail from my PC (so long as I am using the same PC and also not a private session). It is the unrecognized device... phone, PC, tablet, or otherwise... that is triggering this feature.
My wife's PC is connected to our printer, so whenever I want to print somethin
I use an incognito tab on her PC, and my password is all that Google ever asks
for. I insist that they're picking on me. I've made 1 too many reptilian jokes
on the internet :)
Unless I am planning to use the camera for something, I don't take my phone
on walks.
Back when I ran, I had a Kodak MC3 - it was a little multimedia widget before its time. It had a crappy camera that took stills, movies, and played MP3s. I'
load a bunch of hair metal songs onto the CF card, and could take photos and videos along the way, without being connected to the internet.
Did I mention that my daughter's high school is having phone-free Fridays? It's interesting seeing her reaction. Mostly her issue is with not being able to locate her friends at lunch. They turn on location services and let each other see where they are... :|
Phones are completely banned in my kid's school, and the governor and her monkeys are going to ban them in all NY schools in the near future. I'm surprised that we're ahead of California on this.
Phones are completely banned in my kid's school, and the governor and he monkeys are going to ban them in all NY schools in the near future. I'm surprised that we're ahead of California on this.
I think it is a good idea. We don't need another generation of social media addicts.
I've never been a big fan of Gmail, although you pretty much have to> of changing my email address everywhere, I want to set up my own email serve
sign up for it to keep your Phone and Tablet updated. What I did was
go to gMail and set it up to forward all incoming mail to my other
main eMail address so I don't miss anything and anyone I do want to
reply to I can reply from my other eMail address and switch them over.
That's a good idea, and that's my plan. But before I go through the long proc
Yea but parents want to keep in contact with their kids (I know I do.) They're
shutting off our communication with our kids without first solving the problem
of unpredictable school shootings.
I hope and literally pray that it never happens in my kids' schools, but if there's ever an issue at one of the schools then I want to be able to contact my kid without having to go through the staff members.
Our kids know enough not to pull out their bird and pee on the floor in the classroom, so why shouldn't they also know the rules about pulling out the cellphone during class? The school is intentionally cutting off our communication with our kids and it makes me and a handful of other parents ver
angry.
That's a good idea, and that's my plan. But before I go through the lon AT>proc> of changing my email address everywhere, I want to set up my own email
> serve
>I've started working on that but it's kind of difficult (for me.)
What exactly will an eMail server do? eMail seems to be a light enough duty thing that it wouldn't require a lot of processing power or
storage unless you're doing something really big, like at a corporate level.
Yea but parents want to keep in contact with their kids (I know I do.) They're
shutting off our communication with our kids without first solving the problem
of unpredictable school shootings.
If that was my concern, I would give the kid one of those real simple phones that can make phone calls and maybe text and that is about it. They don't need a smart phone while they are in school.
Because a social media addiction, just like a drug addiction, is a much more powerful urge than needing to piss the floor.
If that was my concern, I would give the kid one of those real simple phones that can make phone calls and maybe text and that is about it. They don't need a smart phone while they are in school.
That was my initial reaction, but I asked if that would be ok and they said "no." Then I asked if I could give her a long range walkie talkie and they eve
said "no" to that (which contradicts their "social media" narrative bigtime.)
Because a social media addiction, just like a drug addiction, is a much more powerful urge than needing to piss the floor.
Right, but see above...
hmmmm, if that is the case then it does not sound good. OT1H, I can understand them not wanting you to be able to call in at anytime and distrupt class. OTOH, the kid should have a way to contact you if there is trouble.
Yea but parents want to keep in contact with their kids (I know I
do.) They're shutting off our communication with our kids without
first solving the problem of unpredictable school shootings.
pulling out the cellphone during class? The school is intentionally cutting off our communication with our kids and it makes me and a
handful of other parents very angry.
Yea but parents want to keep in contact with their kids (I know I do.) They'r>hutting off our communication with our kids without first solving the problem
I hope and literally pray that it never happens in my kids' schools, but if t>e's ever an issue at one of the schools then I want to be able to contact my
Our kids know enough not to pull out their bird and pee on the floor in the c>sroom, so why shouldn't they also know the rules about pulling out the cellph
Also I'm hoping to eventually manage a user database for email accounts
so that I can share this email server with other people.
I'm new at email administration so still I have a lot to figure out and understand. But doesn't the thought of getting all that done sound pretty cool?
Phones are completely banned in my kid's school, and the
governor and he monkeys are going to ban them in all NY
schools..
I think it is a good idea. We don't need another
generation of social media addicts.
Yea but parents want to keep in contact with their kids (I
know I do.) They're shutting off our communication with
our kids without first solving the problem of
unpredictable school shootings.
Our kids know enough not to pull out their bird and pee on
the floor in the classroom, so why shouldn't they also
know the rules about pulling out the cellphone during
class?
The school is intentionally cutting off our communication
with our kids and it makes me and a handful of other
parents very angry.
Did I mention that my daughter's high school is having
phone-free Fridays? It's interesting seeing her reaction.
Mostly her issue is with not being able to locate her
friends at lunch. They turn on location services and let
each other see where they are... :|
I said that people are creatures of habit, and you could
probably just go to where you always go and meet up with
them.
What exactly will an eMail server do? eMail seems to be a light enough duty thing that it wouldn't require a lot of processing power or storage unless you're doing something really big, like at a corporate level.
If that was my concern, I would give the kid one of those real simple phones that can make phone calls and maybe text and that is about it. They don't need a smart phone while they are in school.
Possibly an alternative would be to find a way to block
calls during class from everyone but their parents,
although I'm not sure it can be set up that exclusively.
It's easy to block calls from anyone other than those in
your Contacts list (Do Not Disturb rules) but most people
have everyone they know in their Contacts list.
Hmm.. Looking at my phone there is an option to set that
up to only allow Contacts 'Favorites' to ring through so
that could be workable.
August Abolins wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
I concur.. All that such a thing requires is pre-agreed upon
location and a watch.
Aaron Thomas wrote to Rob Mccart <=-
I'm new at email administration so still I have a lot to figure out and understand. But doesn't the thought of getting all that done sound
pretty cool?
Shawn Highfield wrote to Aaron Thomas <=-
If they are leaving it alone, just tell them to leave it in the school
bag under their seat. <shrug> If they get caught they broke the rule
and deserve punshment. (From you not the school)
Rob Mccart wrote to AARON THOMAS <=-
I think the only issue with that is, any time the phone rings or pings
the kid has to check to see if it's their parents or another kid or
some spam thing.
shoulder. They didn't have cellphones. Hard to believe but both my kids are still alive and they made it through school without being able to contact us.
Now again: different time, school shootings don't happen very often in my country either. I understand it's a weekly or more then weekly problem
in your country, so I'm really torn up on this one.
If they are leaving it alone, just tell them to leave it in the school
bag under their seat. <shrug> If they get caught they broke the rule
and deserve punshment. (From you not the school)
Possibly an alternative would be to find a way to block calls during
class from everyone but their parents, although I'm not sure it can
be set up that exclusively. It's easy to block calls from anyone other than those in your Contacts list (Do Not Disturb rules) but most
people have everyone they know in their Contacts list.
Hmm.. Looking at my phone there is an option to set that up to only
allow Contacts 'Favorites' to ring through so that could be workable.
understand. But doesn't the thought of getting all that done sound pr cool?
I've read from several people operating (or trying to operate)
their own email servers is that they run into obstacles like
getting denial/blocking of delivery to gmail or outlook or
hotmail accounts.
The school is intentionally cutting off our communication
with our kids and it makes me and a handful of other
parents very angry.
Ah.. then perhaps the parent should play a strong role in
instilling phone ettiquette to their kids.
I'm new at email administration so still I have a lot to figure out a understand. But doesn't the thought of getting all that done sound pretty cool?
Setting up DKIM and DMARC are fiddly - they are anti-spam settings in
DNS that help authenticate mail coming from your server as valid.
There's a lot of information and a tester at mxtoolbox.com.
I concur.. All that such a thing requires is pre-agreed upon
location and a watch.
And not even that - the school has bells that ring to tell you when to
go to lunch and when to come back!
What exactly will an eMail server do?>ased email. I'm using the SMTP protocol. But my limitations that I'm trying t
So far I've got an email server set up that I can use to send and receive tex
1) I need to start using the IMAP and/or POP3 protocols so that I can:>2) easily set up mail client software like Thunderbird
Also I'm hoping to eventually manage a user database for email accounts so th>I can share this email server with other people.
I'm new at email administration so still I have a lot to figure out and under>nd. But doesn't the thought of getting all that done sound pretty cool?
If that was my concern, I would give the kid one of those real simple phone
that can make phone calls and maybe text and that is about it. They don't need a smart phone while they are in school.
Yeah, a concealed Nokia candy-bar phone would be invisible, unless someone at the school searched their bag.
That would go up against quite a few civil liberty challenges, not to mention social network pressure - when a kid has to bring a hidden burner phone in cas
there's a school shooting, and the school punishes him for that? That's a mess
any school wouldn't want to get into.
Now I want a phone that fits into an Altoids tin.
In my case, Google and Yahoo will let me send mail to their recipients, but it
goes to their spam folders.
>nd. But doesn't the thought of getting all that done sound pretty cool?
So maybe you'll end up as an eMail address provider for the public?
In my case, Google and Yahoo will let me send mail to their recipients, it
goes to their spam folders.
Your recpients should be able to add your address, or whole domain, to their whitelists and solve that issue pretty quick then.
The problem now? SPAM and mail providers. The same companies agressively bloc>g inbound email are doing so knowing that anyone running their own mail serve
They may not even block based on your mail content and setup, but block your>l because you're on an IP address that looks suspicious. Lots of luck getting
Possibly an alternative would be to find a way to block>phones are in airplane-mode at the beginning of the class?
calls during class from everyone but their parents,
How about teachers run through a verification process that all
I think the only issue with that is, any time the phone rings or pings>No concerns of notifications unless it's real.
the kid has to check to see if it's their parents or another kid or
some spam thing.
I like the notion of a burner phone. Only the parents have the number.
Aaron Thomas wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
I know, DKIM was confusing, but I got all that under control (SPF too.)
I have Postfix working fine, and I can send/recieve mail with MUTT, but
I tried to configure Dovecot and something's not right. So I'm taking
it one step at a time.
August Abolins wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
Well.. there could be scenarios where kids want to meet
offsite. So.. some kind of time device would be wise. ;)
Rob Mccart wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-
Actually, the way most spam is done these days, they sequencially
work their way through every possible number so you are still
likely to get hit eventualy even on an activated phone you've
never used.
Rob Mccart wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-
I tend to use mail services that are free and have very little controls over them, but I do occasionally run into some bigger providers
blocking exhange from those places claiming there is too much Spam
being sent from them.. but so far I've been lucky enough that they will unblock me if I answer that eMail, with a warning not to do that, not
that I did it in the first place. They just block everyone using that service.
Rob Mccart wrote to AUGUST ABOLINS <=-
In Ye Good Olde Days, if there was an emergency, parents phoned
the school and had them fetch the kid from class but I guess
that isn't good enough anymore.
Actually, the way most spam is done these days, they sequencially>got a hold of our DID numbers and started war-dialing desk phones
work their way through every possible number so you are still
likely to get hit eventualy even on an activated phone you've
never used.
That is true.
I once worked for an ecommerce company that got an irate customer. They
She eventually gave up, but not after calling 30 or 40 times.
In Ye Good Olde Days, if there was an emergency, parents phoned>into the office. I was running late because of traffic (2 hour commute)
the school and had them fetch the kid from class but I guess
that isn't good enough anymore.
I had a scheduling change with my wife yesterday and was forced to go
Rob Mccart wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-
Ha.. That made me think of my brother in law who, when he gets some
sort of Spam call, he keeps them on the line as long as possible
just to waste their time and resources.
Rob Mccart wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-
Yes, which is fine. I don't think anyone wants kids to be cut off
from parents or even friends as long as it isn't interfering with
classes unless it is a dire emergency.
Ha.. That made me think of my brother in law who, when he gets some
sort of Spam call, he keeps them on the line as long as possible
just to waste their time and resources.
Now it's all VOIP, but it was fun when they were paying for land lines.
There's a service called something like the Jolly Roger telephone>service that provides unlimited call holding - transfer the call to
I usually just put the phone down and walk away.
Rob Mccart wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-
Lately as soon as they start talking I just hang up before they even
tell me what they are after. I doubt I hang up on many legitimate
business callers and, if I did, they would likely figure some glitch
and call you right back.
Plus a huge percentage of them are now automated calls, you don't
talk to an actual person until they get you hooked..
I have a local realtor who had my old number on a PDF that google> captured.
I get SPAM calls wanting to add me to the Google Voice Search> service directory, whatever that is.
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