What's wrong with dressing professional? If I dressed like Zelensky
and went to a job interview they'd laugh at me.
and went to a job interview they'd laugh at me.
Last week someone came to a job interview at my company in sweat pants. Yes, he was hired. We explain that once he's hired if he comes to work
in sweat pants he will be sent home to change and he will not be paid until he comes back in clothing that is approved. (Everything except sweat pants)
Another a-hole is the one who asked Z "why don't you wear a
suit.. as a sign of respect.. etc".
Seeing as Musk ran a meeting over Trump in the oval office looking like someone whose luggage had been lost...
Yes, we are a polite bunch.
We don't put of with 'Bullies".
Bullied is one the feelings we have right now.
Mike Powell wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-
Is that the same one where Musk's kid leaned over and told Trump to
shut up and that he wasn't the real President? That kid owned him.
Kurt Weiske wrote to Mike Powell <=-
Is that the same one where Musk's kid leaned over and told Trump to
shut up and that he wasn't the real President? That kid owned him.
Out of the mouths of babes...come the truth.
Last week someone came to a job interview at my company in sweat pants.>Yes, he was hired. We explain that once he's hired if he comes to work
Like Steve, Canada is a nice guy also. But the odor of drugs, illegal immigrants, and an unfair trade balance is actually hurting my country, and I can still smell it even when I get off the bus.
I don't blame the Canadian people. Sometimes we inadvertently elect bad politicians here in the states also, and that's why some of these odorsaven'
been dissolved already. You need a leader who will stand up for Canada theam
way the Trump stands up for the USA.
Zelensky is no slouch when it comes to wit, but his visit was
weighed by the serious burden of his country and people under
attack - I could imagine that humour and levity would be hard
to maintain at all times. But Vance and Trump were
disrespectful pricks in this situation.
Two things stuck out at me - When Zelenskyy said, in pretty good English
that if you don't deal with Russia in Ukraine, you'll deal with them at
your doorstep, and it felt like Trump saw that as an opening to distort
that and go on the offensive, saying "You don't tell me what to do".
That seemed like an intentional escalation, not a misunderstanding.
Secondly, when Trump described Zelenskyy's strategy as "not good
business", it rang hollow. Governing a people is *not* a business.
And, the Down Jones average is down almost 1000 points in the last few
days leading up to the tariffs. Interesting, planning your stock-killing
political move on the day of your State of the Union address.
As for unfair trade, as it has been pointed out, it was Donald Trump who signed the current trade deal with Canada and he called it the best deal ever done.
Trump is making Trudeau look good which is a difficult task considering the beating Trudeau was taking before this.
Like Steve, Canada is a nice guy also. But the odor of drugs, illegal immigra>, and an unfair trade balance is actually hurting my country, and I
Two things stuck out at me - When Zelenskyy said, in pretty good English>that if you don't deal with Russia in Ukraine, you'll deal with them at
Secondly, when Trump described Zelenskyy's strategy as "not good>business", it rang hollow. Governing a people is *not* a business.
And, the Dow Jones average is down almost 1000 points in the last few> days leading up to the tariffs. Interesting, planning your stock-killing
"Bold move, Cotton, let's see how it plays out for 'em..."
It would be funny if our country wasn't in the balance.
As for unfair trade, as it has been pointed out, it was Donald Trump who signed the current trade deal with Canada and he called it the best deal ever done.
USMCA failed to address the trade imbalance. It was passed through congress, which probably means that it wasn't allowed to address the trade imbalance, because congress would never deal with an issue like that.
itherTrump is making Trudeau look good which is a difficult task considering the beating Trudeau was taking before this.
I don't see it that way. Smart Canadians probably don't see it that way
It doesn't erase the damage that Trudeau has done to Canada.
Trust me.. the person that will hurt the USA more than anyone
else is your president. Tariffs are nothing but a tax on you,
as well as us, and he is damaging both of our economies.
Mike Powell wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-
I actually felt like Trump jumped on that because Trump didn't want
those listening (i.e. us!) to be worrying about his buddy Putin, so he deflected it quickly.
Secondly, when Trump described Zelenskyy's strategy as "not good
business", it rang hollow. Governing a people is *not* a business.
True. If you try to treat it like one, it becomes increasingly
difficult to govern.
The trade imbalance, if you remove the Oil you buy from us at 20%
lower than world prices, it's actually a trade Surplus for you.
And the Fentanyl problem, less than 1/2 of 1% coming into your country comes through Canada, and you wouldn't believe the tons of drugs we
stop coming across the border FROM the USA, not to mention illegal guns.
No border as long as ours can be sealed tight, but we do try, and I
will grant that it needed some upgrades which we are doing now.
Trust me.. the person that will hurt the USA more than anyone
else is your president. Tariffs are nothing but a tax on you,
as well as us, and he is damaging both of our economies.
USMCA failed to address the trade imbalance. It was passed through congr which probably means that it wasn't allowed to address the trade imbalan because congress would never deal with an issue like that.
Trump signed it, *after* it had been through Congress, and said it was
the best deal ever done. Certainly he didn't *lie* to us about that?
I don't see it that way. Smart Canadians probably don't see it that wayither
It doesn't erase the damage that Trudeau has done to Canada.
There are Canadians on FIDO who were bad mouthing Trudeau right up until Trump started slinging BS. Now not nearly so much.
One aggrevating thing about the retaliatory tarrifs is that they are>targeted at "red" states which are mostly always red. They are not the
I will believe that Canada really means business when they start tarriffing>automobiles, for example, and not just motorcycles.
The trade imbalance, if you remove the Oil you buy from us at 20%>er we start drilling our own oil (which is one of his plans.)
lower than world prices, it's actually a trade Surplus for you.
In that case, I'll assume that Trump refers to what the ratio will look like
And the Fentanyl problem, less than 1/2 of 1% coming into your country comes through Canada, and you wouldn't believe the tons of drugs we>e then. I don't want drugs coming in from Canada, and I don't want drugs goin
stop coming across the border FROM the USA, not to mention illegal guns.
This sounds to me like the USA & Canada need to work together to combat the i
It's my understanding that Canada's liberal party is loyal to China, and part> being loyal to China means to not interfere with China's opium/precursor sal
> RM> will grant that it needed some upgrades which we are doing now.No border as long as ours can be sealed tight, but we do try, and I
The rivers should make it somewhat easier. The St. Lawrence River is signific>ly deeper and wider compared to the Rio Grande. Onlya very athletic person wo
Trust me.. the person that will hurt the USA more than anyone>damage. Kinda like global warming: it don't feel very hot yet.
else is your president. Tariffs are nothing but a tax on you,
as well as us, and he is damaging both of our economies.
I just don't see the damage yet. I see all the alarms and warnings, but just
arriffingI will believe that Canada really means business when they start
>automobiles, for example, and not just motorcycles.
I'm not up on the exact details regarding auto sales but a huge number
of cars were just shipped across the border to beat the tariffs that
Trump is putting on them, or will.. or might..
Estimates seem to be if the tariffs go through they will add between
$3000 and $12,000 to the cost of a new vehicle, average about $6000.
I suppose if we were smart we would just start buying just vehicles that
we make in Canada to avoid the tariffs altogether. I'd have to check
but obviously the variety of vehicles available that way would not be
very wide, which would obviously be a problem. More likely a lot of
people will put off buying new cars longer than usual in the hopes that
once Trump is gone this crap will come to an end.
Rob Mccart wrote to MIKE POWELL <=-
It is opening up trade across Canada though. They are working at
getting rid of the trade barriers between provinces so we can
more easily buy Canadian made than American made. They figure
that will boost our sales in Canada by about $200 Billion.
Oh, and they are working on a pipeline, East to West here. We talked
about refineries the other day and apparently we do have refineries
here, but they are all to the East and the bulk of our oil to the
West and it was easier to pipe it to the USA than Truck it across
Canada, which now may change if this goes through.
Mike Powell wrote to ROB MCCART <=-
I meant that Canada, if they mean business, should start tariffing American made autos. There are a bunch of "red states" that make
those, including the states that went red just for this election.
I suppose if we were smart we would just start buying just vehicles that
we make in Canada to avoid the tariffs altogether. I'd have to check
but obviously the variety of vehicles available that way would not be
very wide, which would obviously be a problem. More likely a lot of
people will put off buying new cars longer than usual in the hopes that
once Trump is gone this crap will come to an end.
Funny because supposedly, per those defending the tariffs, part of the reasoning behind them was that we are importing too many "American"
cars from Canada. ;)
Rob Mccart wrote to AARON THOMAS <=-
This is true. It should almost be a single service with enforcers from both countries.. Just as a sidebar, today they found 4 illegal
immigrants who had entered into Canada (Quebec) from the USA, 2 adults
and 2 kids who were on the verge of freezing to death when found, literally just huddled together waiting to die. A lot of people have no idea what to expect up here since the vast majority of immigrants,
legal or not, come from much warmer climates.
It's my understanding that Canada's liberal party is loyal to China, and part
We definitely do some business with China but we couldn't be further> RM> will grant that it needed some upgrades which we are doing now.
away from 'loyal' to them. We often condition sales on them improving human rights and a number of times they have tried to influence our elections so our relationship with them is very precarious.
No border as long as ours can be sealed tight, but we do try, and I
The rivers should make it somewhat easier. The St. Lawrence River is signific
Yes, although the St Lawrence and the great lakes only make up a small portion of our border, about 1/3 of the border between our countries,ust
and much of the rest of it is just forest or farmland, difficult to control without building a wall, but fortunately not ll that popular
as an area to cross the border..
Trust me.. the person that will hurt the USA more than anyone
else is your president. Tariffs are nothing but a tax on you,
as well as us, and he is damaging both of our economies.
I just don't see the damage yet. I see all the alarms and warnings, but
No, actual damage isn't obvious yet other than thousands of Canadians
so angry that they will not be spending their tourist dollars in
the USA this year and people looking where their groceries come from
and buying Canadian now, even if it costs more.
But we are still just dealing with threats and the tariffs keep getting postponed, most likely because of huge corporations and government
leaders in your country trying to stop them.
If the 25% across the board tariffs come in they estimate it will
cost Canada more than a million jobs and the estimate is 1.9 million American jobs plus higher prices on almost everything. The numbers
they came up with here is annually in Canada we will spend an extra
$1900 or so on purchases and about $1300 for the average American,
and the average car price there is expected to go up by between
$3000 and $12,000 depending on model. They seem to suggest $6000
as an average.
Economic damage is estimated at over $240 Billion but, an interesting thing that's cropped up, we are working at removing trade barriers
between out Provinces and the estimate is that that will generate
roughly $200 Billion in added business, which of course would be
mostly for things we currently buy from the USA.
Some sources say that the tariffs will be on more than a $Trillion
of your imports. If the tariffs are at 25%, that will put an extra
$250 Billion into your government coffers.. I wonder how much of
that will trickle down to the average working person, especially
the ones who lose their job over it?
What Trump seems to want to do might eventually benefit your
country, but there would be a lot of pain for possibly decades
and it's likely that your next president will undo most of it.
The saddest thing is, not only have our countries been good friends
for many decades but we could always rely on good quality products compared to buying from especially Asia. Not sure about Europe..
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Back in Detroit's heyday, it must have been convenient being right across th border - I remember reading about Canadian-branded GM cars in the 1980s. Now with American cars being built everywhere, not so much.
Yes, and you've always had the option of using your own oil but an intelligent country would use as much of a finite resource like oil
as they can get at a decent pricefrom other countries to save their
This is true. It should almost be a single service with enforcers from both countries.. Just as a sidebar, today they found 4 illegal immigrants who had entered into Canada (Quebec) from the USA, 2 adults and 2 kids
No, actual damage isn't obvious yet other than thousands of Canadians
so angry that they will not be spending their tourist dollars in
the USA this year and people looking where their groceries come from
and buying Canadian now, even if it costs more.
If the 25% across the board tariffs come in they estimate it will
cost Canada more than a million jobs and the estimate is 1.9 million American jobs plus higher prices on almost everything. The numbers
Some sources say that the tariffs will be on more than a $Trillion
of your imports. If the tariffs are at 25%, that will put an extra
$250 Billion into your government coffers.. I wonder how much of
that will trickle down to the average working person, especially
the ones who lose their job over it?
What Trump seems to want to do might eventually benefit your
country, but there would be a lot of pain for possibly decades
and it's likely that your next president will undo most of it.
The saddest thing is, not only have our countries been good friends
for many decades but we could always rely on good quality products compared to buying from especially Asia. Not sure about Europe..
In my limited time in Canada recently, it seemed like most of the cars
were Japanese/Korean, with older American cars in the mix. Mind you,
this was BC where it's easier to get imported cars from the east
without having to transport them across provinces.
Back in Detroit's heyday, it must have been convenient being right
across the border - I remember reading about Canadian-branded GM cars
in the 1980s. Now, with American cars being built everywhere, not so
much.
>> $3000 and $12,000 to the cost of a new vehicle, average about $6000.Estimates seem to be if the tariffs go through they will add between
Yeah, Trump seems real wishy-washy in that. Maybe because the Dow went down>over 1300 points the first two days of this week.
I meant that Canada, if they mean business, should start tariffing American>made autos. There are a bunch of "red states" that make those, including
>> we make in Canada to avoid the tariffs altogether. I'd have to checkI suppose if we were smart we would just start buying just vehicles that
Funny because supposedly, per those defending the tariffs, part of the>reasoning behind them was that we are importing too many "American" cars
The Fentanyl numbers coming in from Canada make it seem like a red>herring, though - can anyone confirm?
It sounds like Fentanyl is a 2-way street between the US and Canada - we>intercepted 43 pounds coming into the US last year, Canada intercepted
There are much better solutions that tarriffs. Continued cooperation,>perhaps?
Oh, and they are working on a pipeline, East to West here. We talked> Canadian oil inferred that Canada lacked the capacity to refine, not
about refineries the other day and apparently we do have refineries
here, but they are all to the East and the bulk of our oil to the
West and it was easier to pipe it to the USA than Truck it across
Canada, which now may change if this goes through.
Interesting. The article I read calling out US refineries refining
A global commerce model with open trading partners is/was a good thing,> but it requires all parties to act in the best interests of everyone.
In my limited time in Canada recently, it seemed like most of the cars> were Japanese/Korean, with older American cars in the mix. Mind you,
Yes, and you've always had the option of using your own oil but an intelligent country would use as much of a finite resource like oil>ack in 2016. If buying oil from Canada isn't solving that issue, then I'm ass
as they can get at a decent pricefrom other countries to save their
There's a mystery about the prices here. The price right now is 3x what it wa
But this shouldn't come as any surprise. Trump has been very vocal about ever>ing he intended to do all throughout his campaign. To panic now is like sayin
If the 25% across the board tariffs come in they estimate it will>l to Canadians who believe that it's wise to depend on other countries.
cost Canada more than a million jobs and the estimate is 1.9 million American jobs plus higher prices on almost everything. The numbers
If the crystal ball is correct, then these results should serve as a wake-up
Something that Trump and I have in common is that we're positive thinkers. I>nk that the next president will double down on Trump's executive orders. I'm
I think they are targeting specific things from 'Red' States that will
cause the most annoyance/pain. Like Booze from Kentucky has pretty much
been removed from our shelves here.
Funny because supposedly, per those defending the tariffs, part of the>reasoning behind them was that we are importing too many "American" cars
>from Canada. ;)
Yes, as suggested above, we have been more partners than rivals so
there may be some truth to that but I seriously doubt that building
some of your cars in plants in Canada was simple charity to us..
The USA had also started building some car models in Mexico to save
money but you ended up limiting that due to quality issues which,
as mentioned earlier, is much less of a problem when they're built
in Canada and the USA..
I don't know if they have the capacity to totally replace our deals
with the USA, but I suppose while they are building the pipeline
they can maybe make the refineries bigger as well, plus that's only
for our use. The sale of oil to you will continue even if Trump puts
his threatened 10% tariff on it. Trump wants the profit from that
even if it costs you guys an estimated $10 more for a tank of gas.
There's a small chance that if Trump is screwing around, and not
serious about this stuff, we are making changes to protect ourselves
so a lot of damage will happen anyways.
I think if there were a huge savings drilling your own oil the companies would have gone back to doing that long ago. It's smart to not use up all your own reserves if you can manage it though. Once it runs out elsewhere you have your own available to use and to sell at inflated prices due to the shortages. But I'm not sure you have as much oil as you wish you did.
Instant gratification. Trump doesn't seem to worry much about anything that will cause problems more than 4 years in the future..
>I never saw this coming."
When Trump was making election speeches I don't recall him mentioning
25% tariffs on Mexican and Canadian Imports. He definitely went on about making America great again, but that's not unusual..
No, I think too many people on both sides of the border are mad about
this and I can't see what he's doing being good for ordinary people, although your super rich probably love him..
They are Japanese, but were they actually made there? Toyota has a huge>plant (maybe their NA HQ?) just down the road from here. Honda has several
>> cause the most annoyance/pain. Like Booze from Kentucky has pretty muchI think they are targeting specific things from 'Red' States that will
Which means they are missing the "Red States" that actually decided the>election... PA, NC, OH, MI, WI. KY has very few electoral votes in
>> there may be some truth to that but I seriously doubt that buildingYes, as suggested above, we have been more partners than rivals so
I don't see it as a charity. Maybe Trump does. I suspect it more likely>made some sort of business sense, as you also do. Businesses are generally
>> money but you ended up limiting that due to quality issues which,The USA had also started building some car models in Mexico to save
I would not have any qualms about buying an "American" car built in Canada.> For that matter, I'd not have any qualms about buying a Canadian one but,
>> his threatened 10% tariff on it. Trump wants the profit from thatThe sale of oil to you will continue even if Trump puts
If Trump were smart, he'd make an exception for oil "imported" into the US>just to be turned into gasoline to be "exported" back to you all.
The constant tariff yo-yo is not doing either country any good. It has>not helped our stock market at all. Canada learning to become more
I think if there were a huge savings drilling your own oil the companies would have gone back to doing that long ago. It's smart to not use up all your own reserves if you can manage it though. Once it runs out elsewhere you have your own available to use and to sell at inflated prices due to the shortages. But I'm not sure you have as much oil as you wish you did.> supply. However, even if Canada gave us an excellent price, uninterrupted, I
That does sound smart when considering the fact that the world has a limited
When Trump was making election speeches I don't recall him mentioning>27, 2024 (well before Election Day) that quotes him like this:
25% tariffs on Mexican and Canadian Imports.
He wasn't that specific, but I found (for example and article from PBS from S
"Former President Donald Trump has proposed a 60% tariff on goods from China> a 20% tariff on everything else the United States imports."
I'm confident that Pierre Poilievre will be able to help us resolve>these issues.
No, I think too many people on both sides of the border are mad about>scinding their endorsement of President Trump. I like Canada, and I have a fe
this and I can't see what he's doing being good for ordinary people, although your super rich probably love him..
I can't speak for the super rich, but I have yet to hear any Trump supporters
Trump sees thousands of jobs building cars in Canada that he can bring
back to the USA to give you those jobs, but anylists were talking
about that tonight on the news and said that what that would do is
cripple American car makers because you can't suddenly throw together
a car building plant. They said it would cost many $Billions and take
years for that to be completed, and then you could pretty much bet
that almost all Canadians would never buy an American car again,
and we would very quickly be able to retool existing plants here to
start making more Asian cars here which would also compete with
your car makers at some level unless tariffs were left on forever.
anada.I would not have any qualms about buying an "American" car built in
> For that matter, I'd not have any qualms about buying a Canadian one but,
>to my knowledge, there have been no Canadian specific makes/models since
>the last years of Studebaker production. ;)
No, it doesn't look like there are any truly Canadian car companies.
I think one or two were trying to start up over the years but never
went anywhere.
If Trump were smart, he'd make an exception for oil "imported" into the US>just to be turned into gasoline to be "exported" back to you all.
I think that was one of the things that showed Trump is in it just for
the money he can make. Tariffs on oil which mostly goes to make gas
and such for your country has no benefit other than costing you all
more money, which is all going to your government.
Time will tell. I think everything he plans will be scaled down as
people and huge corporations realize how much it is going to cost
them when few of them will get any benefit from it. Theoretically
some new jobs will be created but I'm not sure there will be nearly
as many jobs created as are lost due to the tariffs. The only winner
will be the government raking in the tariffs..
They have already said that tariff money here will be used to
support people who the tariffs hurt, like grants to companies
trying to stay afloat and subsidizing pay for people who would
have been laid off so the company can keep on all the workers
working fewer hours but still paid close to their full time
salaries and retaining their company benefits.
I don't think you'll hear Trump offer that. He may say something
about cutting taxes, but most of those cuts will likely benefit
the rich more than the poor.
Rob Mccart wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-
Yes, it would sound like it. I wonder if Trump's idea is that we
spend $Billions to improve border sucurity and then you can stop doing much of it at all, saving you money.. (?)
It seems some things like that are more an excuse than a reason. I can
see the USA complaining about illegal immigrants coming in from, or through, Mexico, but there's a LOT more of it there than through Canada, and things like drugs, I'd be willing to bet more drugs are moving from the USA into Canada than in the other direction. Both things are bad of course but that should have made a good case for having a united service working together policing the border rather than putting tariffs on everything we sell the USA.
I'm not sure who would be best in Canada.. A new Liberal leader was
voted in to replace Trudeau and the news that Trudeau was resigning
had already reduced Poilievre's lead in the polls from 20% to 1%,
Yes, it would sound like it. I wonder if Trump's idea is that we
spend $Billions to improve border sucurity and then you can stop doing much of it at all, saving you money.. (?)
Much of his behavior seems to revolve around coercing others to "kiss
the ring". Illegally withhold congressionally approved funding, wait for
the recipient to respond, get him to grovel. Or, better yet, pay $5
million for an audience at Mar Al Lago.
Political analysts said Trump wanted this second term to "build his>legacy." It really sounds like any chance of that legacy being positive
No, it doesn't look like there are any truly Canadian car companies.
>> the money he can make. Tariffs on oil which mostly goes to make gasI think that was one of the things that showed Trump is in it just for
So far (knock-on-wood), gas prices have not gone up in this area yet. I am>a little surprised that speculation hasn't at least caused them to jump.
Much of his behavior seems to revolve around coercing others to "kiss>the ring". Illegally withhold congressionally approved funding, wait for
It seems some things like that are more an excuse than a reason. I can>we need the 2 administrations to work together.
see the USA complaining about illegal immigrants coming in from, or through, Mexico, but there's a LOT more of it there than through Canada, and things like drugs, I'd be willing to bet more drugs are moving from
the USA into Canada than in the other direction. Both things are bad of course but that should have made a good case for having a united service working together policing the border rather than putting tariffs on everything we sell the USA.
I'm with you on that. Law enforcement from both sides should work together, b
One of the obstacles is that Canada's ruling party (The Liberal Party) is on>ission to import all of India's undesirables into Canada. While they're worki
I'm not sure who would be best in Canada.. A new Liberal leader was> you heard other Canadians expressing confidence in Carney? Statisticians are
voted in to replace Trudeau and the news that Trudeau was resigning
had already reduced Poilievre's lead in the polls from 20% to 1%,
The ratio of those numbers sounds very extreme. What about people you know? H
It all does seem to be about making him look more powerful but you
have to wonder if he will damage the USA's reputation in the world
to the point where it will really start to hurt the country, and a
bigger issue there is it may take a lot longer to repair that damage
later than it took him to do it.
Mike Powell wrote to ROB MCCART <=-
Someone mentioned in another echo that they thought all the posturing about tarrifs was to get other countries to lower/eliminate existing tarrifs that they have on existing goods. In the cases of Canada and Mexico, I was not aware of any serious tarrifs existing before he
started this. China might be a different matter, though.
Rob Mccart wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-
It all does seem to be about making him look more powerful but you
have to wonder if he will damage the USA's reputation in the world
to the point where it will really start to hurt the country, and a
bigger issue there is it may take a lot longer to repair that damage
later than it took him to do it.
>trol. That's like trying to mop floors while you're wearing muddy boots
We have cut way back on that already but, and this is important, the reason we are cutting back is because of housing problems, which means that they are mostly staying in Canada, not crossing the border.
There are what sound like a lot, almost 200,000 were stopped at the
border which doesn't necessarily mean they would have stayed in the USA, just that they were travelling there.. That said, they figure there are something around 5 Million illegal Mexicans living in the USA so I
think there's a bigger problem from that end of the country.
Since Carney is an ex Major banker it's hard to say what he will do
for/to the country. Bankers are generally very Right leaning so,
even if he's not as bad as most of them would be, he will almost
certainly be a lot more that way than Trudeau was.
We recently had an election for the Provincial Premier (think Governor) and the Conservatives got about 11 times as many votes as the Liberals
in this area.
Someone mentioned in another echo that they thought all the posturing about tarrifs was to get other countries to lower/eliminate existing tarrifs that they have on existing goods. In the cases of Canada and Mexico, I was not aware of any serious tarrifs existing before he started this. China might be a different matter, though.
Tarriffs that he was an architect of, at least with regards to Mexico
and Canada.
Someone mentioned in another echo that they thought all the posturing about>tarrifs was to get other countries to lower/eliminate existing tarrifs that
It all does seem to be about making him look more powerful but you
have to wonder if he will damage the USA's reputation in the world
to the point where it will really start to hurt the country, and a bigger issue there is it may take a lot longer to repair that damage later than it took him to do it.
Trust is gained in drops and lost in buckets.
boutSomeone mentioned in another echo that they thought all the posturing
>tarrifs was to get other countries to lower/eliminate existing tarrifshat
>they have on existing goods. In the cases of Canada and Mexico, I was not
>aware of any serious tarrifs existing before he started this. China might
>be a different matter, though.
I meant to mention when you first wrote this, there have always been
some taroffs on certain things. Trump recently has been complaining
about "240% Tariffs" on some Dairy and Poultry products you want to
sell us. That's a typical part lie, part exaggeration on his part.
First, our current agreement on those products Trump negotiated the
last time he was in office.
The "240% Tariffs" can actually happen, but it is a penalty that
is added when you sell us more of those products than what the
agreement that Trump negotiated said was allowed.
Plus our prices on that stuff is high here because our gov't uses
what is called a Supply Management system, which basically means that
the gov't sets the rough prices on certain products high enough so
that the farmers make a good enough profit to stay in business where competing with each other could bankrupt farms creating shortages,
so that's basically a tariff on Canadians to buy from our own farmers.
Supply Management is the Supply end controling prices rather than Demand.
Trust is gained in drops and lost in buckets.
We have cut way back on that already but, and this is important, the>e New York that they can run to.
reason we are cutting back is because of housing problems, which means
that they are mostly staying in Canada, not crossing the border.
Until they hurt someone. When they need to flee law enforcement, it's places
Illegal immigrants are smarter than mice, and mice can find their way through>maze. With the Mexican border secured, it seems scientifically logical that t
Since Carney is an ex Major banker it's hard to say what he will do>SA, then Canadians might appreciate him. But if he can't do i by election day
for/to the country. Bankers are generally very Right leaning so,
even if he's not as bad as most of them would be, he will almost
certainly be a lot more that way than Trudeau was.
Let's see what Mark Carney is made of. If he can end the trade fiasco with th
We recently had an election for the Provincial Premier (think Governor)> doing for you personally?
and the Conservatives got about 11 times as many votes as the Liberals
in this area.
That sounds excellent to me! What's your impression of Doug Ford? How well is
>> have to wonder if he will damage the USA's reputation in the worldIt all does seem to be about making him look more powerful but you
It most likely will. We had a governor that inherited a small mess. He,>similar to Trump, campained on cleaning up the mess and finding all the
This has to be doing the same thing for millions of people in the
USA as well which makes me wonder why there hasn't been a much
bigger reaction down there than there seems to be so far.
As mentioned the other day, they estimate the tariffs will cost
1.9 million Americans their jobs, and my example shows what it
may be doing to retired people or those who rely on investments.
I am far from rich but, like most retired people, I have funds
invested to augment my pension income, and in the last ONE
month the current situation has cost me an estimated
$20,000 in the combined drop in value and loss of the
average usual profit.
Rob Mccart wrote to AARON THOMAS <=-
The biggest difference is, to cross to the USA from Canada, they have
to have flown into Canada legally. They can't walk or get here on a
boat as easily as they can into the USA.
Mike Powell wrote to ROB MCCART <=-
I suspect that a lot of the folks who are in favor of "everything Trump does" do not have any investments. People like Musk, OTOH, I cannot explain. He is losing a lot of money. I believe his hope is to gain
lots of it back in fat government contracts. I hope that is not the
case.
August Abolins wrote to Rob Mccart <=-
What about buying when low? Couldn't this dip in the market be
a good time to buy other stocks that are surely to rebound?
Rob Mccart wrote to MIKE POWELL <=-
This has to be doing the same thing for millions of people in the
USA as well which makes me wonder why there hasn't been a much
bigger reaction down there than there seems to be so far.
As mentioned the other day, they estimate the tariffs will cost
1.9 million Americans their jobs, and my example shows what it
may be doing to retired people or those who rely on investments.
>'ll start taking the Canadian route.
The biggest difference is, to cross to the USA from Canada, they have
to have flown into Canada legally. They can't walk or get here on a
boat as easily as they can into the USA. So those here are almost all
just 'tourists' to us. Some may come in with the intention of crossing into the USA for some reason but they are not illegal when they are here unless they've been here longer than allowed and are now fleeing to the USA.
A lot of Americans probably wouldn't guess that Canada is a much more popular choice to move to. According to the NY Post, Canada is the
most popular in the world and the USA didn't make the top 10.
He has already cancelled a lof of the Carbon taxes and has cut the
number of people in his Cabinet from Trudeau's 37 to 23. He's made
certain claims suggesting he won't cancel any programs in place
that benefit poor and older people, but we'll have to see.
As to your question, I generally lean towards the Liberals than the Conservatives like Ford, but he coped well and took fairly good
care of the people through the Covid crisis, and actually instigated
some things like grants for low income people reducing the cost they
pay for electricity, a bigger thing up here since we do so much more
home heating than most of the USA does. So, my answer is that I'm
not disappointed he got back in and I wasn't really interested in
any of the other party leaders running this time around.
Ford's a funny guy.. He made a lot of points in his first election
by promissing to lower the price of beer so a lot of people thought
he was a bit of a buffoon but, when serious stuff started happening
like Covid, he handled it better than most of the rest of the country.
>> last time he was in office.First, our current agreement on those products Trump negotiated the
LOL, yeah, which is why I wasn't really counting the previously-existing>ones. I wasn't sure what they were on as I was sure Trump was
Trump asking who signed that is because he knows a lot of folks would never>research it and figure out it was he himself that signed it. ;)
Supply Management is the Supply end controling prices rather than Demand.
Yes, and it is something you have to be real careful with.
I suspect that a lot of the folks who are in favor of "everything Trump does" do not have any investments. People like Musk, OTOH, I cannot explain. He is losing a lot of money. I believe his hope is to gain lots of it back in fat government contracts. I hope that is not the case.
Musk is preserving his government subsidies while carving out even more
and playing out some egotistical fantasy of being the most powerful man
in the world. At this point, he probably is, although we'll see what
happens if he crosses Putin.
But the biggest danger to 'our' system is countries like China willing
to lose money selling products, sometimes for decades, working at
putting all competition in other countries out of business. The best
examples of that are computer processors and such. Sort of an overgrown version of gov't subsidies..
I suspect that a lot of the folks who are in favor of "everything Trump>does" do not have any investments. People like Musk, OTOH, I cannot
I am far from rich but, like most retired people, I have funds>a good time to buy other stocks that are surely to rebound?
invested to augment my pension income, and in the last ONE
month the current situation has cost me an estimated
$20,000 in the combined drop in value and loss of the
average usual profit.
What about buying when low? Couldn't this dip in the market be
The biggest difference is, to cross to the USA from Canada, they have> Canada.
to have flown into Canada legally. They can't walk or get here on a
boat as easily as they can into the USA.
Given the current situation, I'd think they'd be happy staying in
This has to be doing the same thing for millions of people in the>pull with this administration.
USA as well which makes me wonder why there hasn't been a much
bigger reaction down there than there seems to be so far.
Moreso, it's costing billionaires billions. They're the ones who have
As soon as people march on Washington, Trump will use this as an excuse>to suspend habeas corpus, declare martial law, and accelerate his power
I'm seeing stories of Trump supporters claiming "I didn't vote for>this", but don't have much faith in it carrying over to the ballot box.
I understand that it's more difficult and less convenient for illegal immigra> to get into Canada, and that fewer of them will do it, but it only took 19 p
A lot of Americans probably wouldn't guess that Canada is a much more popular choice to move to. According to the NY Post, Canada is the
most popular in the world and the USA didn't make the top 10.
I believe it. Canada is under-rated. I enjoy it every time I go.
Here in the parties are constantly accusing one another of having "plans to e>Medicare and/or Social Security" which are 2 programs that most of our retire
As to your question, I generally lean towards the Liberals than the Conservatives like Ford, but he coped well and took fairly good>ectric bill go down?
care of the people through the Covid crisis, and actually instigated
some things like grants for low income people reducing the cost they
pay for electricity
That sounds like excellent work that Ford has done. Did you actually see your
Canada has recently imposed a 25% tariff on electric. My electric company (NY>) is impacted. But my bill didn't go up 25%; it went up about 100%. Look at t
Ford's a funny guy.. He made a lot of points in his first election
by promissing to lower the price of beer so a lot of people thought
he was a bit of a buffoon but, when serious stuff started happening
like Covid, he handled it better than most of the rest of the country.
He sounds great to me. I want him to run my state!
Trump seems to be keeping more quiet these days. I suspect he is getting
a lot more flak than he (or the news) is letting on.
The other day it was mentioned here that we have a 'potential' order
in to Lockheed Martin there to buy 88 F35 fighter jets, and we are
under contract to buy the first 16, but the balance is still optional
and the Prime Minister is talking about not buying the rest, which
would cost L.M. $8.64 Billion. I may be wrong but I suspect that military contractors have a great deal of influence over the government there..
They also had the governor of Alaska on TV today basically saying that
what's going on makes no sense at all. Our North and yours are very
closely knit due to difficulties for both of them to get what they
need without cooperating with each other.
It is actually a line right on the electricity bill. There are also Provincial plans that do the same thing. They want people to live in
the North and they know that we have to heat homes in colder weather
and drive further to get anywhere (my 50 mile round trip for groceries)
so they do things to lower costs a bit. I save about $1000 a year on electricity due to those two grants, about equally split between them
in recent heavy use months.
If you really want to get mad.. Ford put that 25% on only for a couple
of days and then your gov't had a meltdown and insisted on a meeting
to disuss things last week, so it was taken off again for now.
I'm sure I would have heard on the news if it were back on.
>> and playing out some egotistical fantasy of being the most powerful manMusk is preserving his government subsidies while carving out even more
Is it a bad thing to hope that maybe this happens sooner than later?
I watched something about aluminum manufacturing yesterday that leads me to>believe that is another product that would fit into this category. China
Is it a bad thing to hope that maybe this happens sooner than later?
It sounded like the 90 minute 'productive meeting' Trump had with Putin wasn't as productive as he is suggesting. It's more or less Putin saying
that if everyone stops supporting Ukraine forever and let Russia do
whatever they want there he will end this conflict.
A big part of the problem is I fear that Putin is what Trump wants
to be when he grows up. Able to invade other countries for fun and
profit and kill anyone who disagrees with him or runs against him.
I hear he was trying to have a Judge removed who said what he was
doing deporting gang members as an invading army was illegal..
I gotta say, I'm with Trump on that idea but if you can start
just getting rid of any judge who rules against you, the legal
system will totally fall apart.
Mike Powell wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-
Is it a bad thing to hope that maybe this happens sooner than later?
>> a lot more flak than he (or the news) is letting on.Trump seems to be keeping more quiet these days. I suspect he is getting
Sometime very recently, he held a meeting with Putin that ended in him>promising another kiss-up... the US removing itself from a list of
I have seen this one in the news. Canada is on the hook for the first X>many, but can back out of the rest, costing Lockheed Martin a lot of
There has been an unsubstantiated claim that Trump made a gaffe the other>day and reference Alaska as if it was not a state -- he supposedly talked
It is actually a line right on the electricity bill. There are also Provincial plans that do the same thing.>t seems like the electric bills went up more than the grant compensated for.
I save about $1000 a year on those grants
There's a grant for low income people here (like me) but in the past few year
I wish I had a single story house, then I'd heat it with a pellet stove.
If you really want to get mad.. Ford put that 25% on only for a couple>idn't discuss it with you.
of days and then your gov't had a meltdown and insisted on a meeting
to disuss things last week, so it was taken off again for now.
The media keeps things like this quiet. I would have never known about it if
Sometime very recently, he held a meeting with Putin that ended in him>promising another kiss-up... the US removing itself from a list of
>countries wanting to investigate Russia for war crimes... so he's not been
>quiet enough.
I really seems like he is getting manipulated by Putin and the rest
of the world is watching pretty closely because if the USA is on
Russia's side, who knows who Russia will invade next?
I have seen this one in the news. Canada is on the hook for the first X>many, but can back out of the rest, costing Lockheed Martin a lot of
>potential dough. The military contractors have a lot of influence. Since
>Vietnam, and maybe before, they've got us stuck into a lot of wars and
>conflicts.
Yes, I guess it's in their interest if they can do anything to keep
the wars going.
Today he was saying that in Canada he doesn't want the Consevatives to
win th coming election because "Poilievre was stupidly not nice to him".
He figures he'd prefer it if the Liberals get back in because he figures
he can more easily control them.. he's also back to saying we should be
the 51s state..
I think there's a lot of that going on down there. I think people would
be much more against what is going on if they know how much their bills will go up and how many will lose their jobs if Trump does half of what
he wants to do. He has stopped saying he will put tariffs on Canada
and Mexico and is now saying he will put it on everything that enters
the USA from any other country in the world. So everything you buy not made in the USA will go up 25% or so, and all that tariff money will
just go into the gov't coffers. It's like a huge tax on all consumers
in your country and he's trying to convince you it is a good thing.
It is already costing your small businesses Billions of dollars.
Canadians have already cut vacations and shopping trips down there
by 500,000 fewer than normal for this time of year. How much money
would half a million tourists spend there in a month and what is
that doing to hotels and restaurants and retailers?
I feel bad when I see American tourists up here who, almost the
first thing they say is they are sorry for what Trump is doing
to us. It's not the American people's fault and we know that but
to fight back we can really only do the small stuff that hurts
the ordinary people down there. Thousands of American products
have been removed from the store shelves here and a lot of people
refuse to buy the ones that are still left.
Rob Mccart wrote to MIKE POWELL <=-
I hear he was trying to have a Judge removed who said what he was
doing deporting gang members as an invading army was illegal..
I gotta say, I'm with Trump on that idea but if you can start
just getting rid of any judge who rules against you, the legal
system will totally fall apart.
Rob Mccart wrote to MIKE POWELL <=-
Oh, and I hear that the Tariff situation has taken another nasty
twist. Apparently Trump now wants to put a Tariff on everything
imported from all countries in the world.
Mike Powell wrote to ROB MCCART <=-
It sounded like the 90 minute 'productive meeting' Trump had with Putin wasn't as productive as he is suggesting. It's more or less Putin saying that if everyone stops supporting Ukraine forever and let Russia do
whatever they want there he will end this conflict.
He will end it by making Ukraine a puppet of Russia (like Belorus is)
or just making it Russia outright. Someone like Trump would probably
go for that I am sure.
>> wasn't as productive as he is suggesting. It's more or less Putin sayingIt sounded like the 90 minute 'productive meeting' Trump had with Putin
He will end it by making Ukraine a puppet of Russia (like Belorus is) or>just making it Russia outright. Someone like Trump would probably go for
>> doing deporting gang members as an invading army was illegal..I hear he was trying to have a Judge removed who said what he was
>> just getting rid of any judge who rules against you, the legalI gotta say, I'm with Trump on that idea but if you can start
I am with Trump on deporting them. If the judge is indeed correct about it>being done in an illegal manner, they need to find a legal way to make it
I think that last question is what makes me different that most US>politicians.
Is it a bad thing to hope that maybe this happens sooner than later?>each than Musk...
No one knows how much money or reach Putin has, I'm sure he has more of
He will end it by making Ukraine a puppet of Russia (like Belorus is)
or just making it Russia outright. Someone like Trump would probably
go for that I am sure.
I saw a headline about how the best way to prevent Russia from bombing
Ukrainian power facilities (which they promised to do and broke the
promise) was to allow the US to run their power facilities.
Straight out of the Sopranos.
>> of the world is watching pretty closely because if the USA is onI really seems like he is getting manipulated by Putin and the rest
With Trump, flattery supposedly gets you everywhere.
>> win th coming election because "Poilievre was stupidly not nice to him".Today he was saying that in Canada he doesn't want the Consevatives to
Here's hoping the Conservatives win then. I am wondering if some of his>antics are not attempts to sway elections in other countries in ways he
I'm convinced that everything Trump does is a good thing. I keep hearing all>se warnings about him, but nothing he does ever seems to hurt.
It is already costing your small businesses Billions of dollars.> a survey that was taken on 10 Canadians from the streets of Vancouver.
Canadians have already cut vacations and shopping trips down there
by 500,000 fewer than normal for this time of year. How much money
would half a million tourists spend there in a month and what is
that doing to hotels and restaurants and retailers?
These numbers sound like they are highly manipulatable. It could all be based
It's not the American people's fault and we know that but>is refusing to buy Canadian stuff.
to fight back we can really only do the small stuff that hurts
the ordinary people down there. Thousands of American products
have been removed from the store shelves here and a lot of people
refuse to buy the ones that are still left.
I don't understand why they would act that way. I don't think anyone here
I know for a fact that I'm buying Canadian electric> every month. Some people get way too stirred-up from things they've seen or
I hear he was trying to have a Judge removed who said what he was>created with their immunity ruling.
doing deporting gang members as an invading army was illegal..
It's curious that John Roberts spoke out now about the monster his court
Trump's team is spinning that dissent is illegal, even from co-equal>branches of government. We'll see if his base takes the bait.
Oh, and I hear that the Tariff situation has taken another nasty> loyalty. Take everything away and make leaders and countries have to
twist. Apparently Trump now wants to put a Tariff on everything
imported from all countries in the world.
Sounds like another effort to see who will kiss his ring and show
It sort of seems like he has a lot more control over what is
reported on the news down there than I would expect, although I
haven't heard too much of it really. I base my assumption on the
fact that if news services down there were calling him out, our
news would pick up on that and tell us.
Here's hoping the Conservatives win then. I am wondering if some of his>antics are not attempts to sway elections in other countries in ways he
>wants them to come out.
Could be.. although I'm not sure which party would work out best for us. Poilieve (Conservative) talks a good fight but it is believed he is
a lot more like Trump and may go along with a lot of what Trump says.
Carney (Liberal) is talking some good points but is, at heart, still
a Banker who has never been elected to anything, so he's no politician.
By 'Banker' I mean a Major Banker as in he has served as the Governor
of the Bank of England and then as Governor of the Bank of Canada.
It is already costing your small businesses Billions of dollars. Canadians have already cut vacations and shopping trips down there
by 500,000 fewer than normal for this time of year. How much money
would half a million tourists spend there in a month and what is
that doing to hotels and restaurants and retailers?
These numbers sound like they are highly manipulatable. It could all be based> a survey that was taken on 10 Canadians from the streets of Vancouver.
That info came strictly from counting the drop in the number of cars
crossing the border and plane passengers heading to the USA compared
to this same time last year. And there have been Thousands of people
who have cancelled trips to the USA even when it cost them thousands
of dollars to walk away from a scheduled vacation in the USA.
Travel agencies say that trips they usually arrange have dropped by
over 40%.
There are American businesses near the border who say they are
looking at bankruptcy due to the drop in Canadian day trippers
they rely on to survive, which is just sad. It seems that the
only way to get back at Trump is to cause enough grief there that
he can't continue to ignore the harm his policies are doing.
I'm convinced that everything Trump does is a good thing. I keep hearin>se warnings about him, but nothing he does ever seems to hurt.
You do realize that your stock market has lost about $4 Trillion
since the threat of Tariffs started.. ? That is money out of the
pockets of anyone who has investments in the market and companies
are terrified to spend money on expansion since they are worried
they may be in a situation where they will be losing money for years.
> a survey that was taken on 10 Canadians from the streets of Vancouver.
That info came strictly from counting the drop in the number of cars crossing the border and plane passengers heading to the USA compared
to this same time last year. And there have been Thousands of people
who have cancelled trips to the USA even when it cost them thousands
of dollars to walk away from a scheduled vacation in the USA.
Travel agencies say that trips they usually arrange have dropped by
over 40%.
There are American businesses near the border who say they are
looking at bankruptcy due to the drop in Canadian day trippers
I don't understand why they would act that way. I don't think anyone he>is refusing to buy Canadian stuff.
We are looking at this as an threatened economic attack that will
cost us over a million jobs and raise the prices on much that we
buy when we are already fighting inflation moving prices up faster
than wages have been moving.
Rob Mccart wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-
Reach is hard to say, I'm not sure why Musk has more of that than
money can buy.. As for money, it looks like Putin only has about
$200 Billion in personal wealth, not bad considering he pretty much started with nothing when he took the job, but Musk is up around
$321 Billion, which I don't know if they've included the recent Tesla losses of about $15.3 Billion since he started working with Trump.
Rob Mccart wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-
As I semi-joked rcently, it doesn't seem like it would be a huge
surprise to see him next find some way to stay on as President
longer than is normally allowed there..
Rob Mccart wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-
dozens of other countries. He said on a speech yesterday that the
USA doesn't need any other countries in the world. It might be an interesting experiment to seal your borders for a few months and
see how well that works out..
Carney (Liberal) is talking some good points but is, at
heart, still a Banker who has never been elected to
anything, so he's no politician.
As I semi-joked rcently, it doesn't seem like it would be a huge
surprise to see him next find some way to stay on as President
longer than is normally allowed there..
Another problem with this information is "Travel agencies.." Canadians don't need a travel agency to travel to the USA. The USA and Canada are so alikeha
there's just no reason for it. Maybe you'd go to a travel agency to plan ari
to Japan or something.
And, his comment that "We're maybe going to tone it down for our allies,
we like to tone it done by about 10%, as one day they might not be our
allies any more" - WTF?
Countries have always created export fighters - the F-5/F-20 come to
mind - as well as countless MiG models during the cold war sold to
Warsaw Pact countries and others.
But, saying that when countries are already concerned about the US
"turning off" fighters, Musk turning off Starlink in Ukraine, and
Trump's history of wanting countries to "kiss the ring", he just spelled
the death-knell for the US defense industry exports.
Aaron Thomas wrote to Rob Mccart <=-
Just keep an eye on 1 American business that's near the border. We
might not be able to see them go bankrupt, but let's see if they stay afloat. (I think they will be fine.)
need a travel agency to travel to the USA. The USA and Canada are so aliha
there's just no reason for it. Maybe you'd go to a travel agency to planri
to Japan or something.
They might use one if they fly.
US news outlets are reporting that traffic at border crossings is as low as it has been since COVID, so there are your "no travel agent" travelers covered.
How many canadian businesses are dependent on American money? A good indicator would be at the crossing points: Detroit/Windsor, Sault Ste. Marie, Sarnia, etc.
August Abolins wrote to Rob Mccart <=-
T did say "vote for me and you won't ever need to vote again".
Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-
The media people think that they can "wish something true." They think that if they wish it, want it, and say it enough times, then it will
come true.
You know how Canadians are. Most of them are really nice. They aren't going to hate us just because the media tells them to. (The smart
ones.)
>> reported on the news down there than I would expect, although IIt sort of seems like he has a lot more control over what is
There have been some comparisons of articles posted on US news sites vs.>those on international sites. If it is to be believed, the US sites will
"Trump reinstates three suppliers of widgets">suppliers"
While the international headline might read:
"Widget makers give $41million to Trump and are reinstated as defense
I have seen some claims that electing Poilieve = 51st state, where electing>Carney = remaining independent. I don't know enough to know if those
>> looking at bankruptcy due to the drop in Canadian day trippersThere are American businesses near the border who say they are
This is difficult to miss as it has been all of the US news, too. Traffic>at border crossings is down, business in border towns is down. I even
If people down here are not hearing about this, and about how companies>down here are going to have to raise prices on us to offset all that is
You do realize that your stock market has lost about $4 Trillion>ent of it. The stock market crash, by comparison, isn't as bad. At least the
since the threat of Tariffs started.. ?
Our previous president borrowed more than $3 trillion dollars and wasted ever
That info came strictly from counting the drop in the number of cars crossing the border and plane passengers heading to the USA compared> but it's not a statistic that warrants a reaction from anybody, and "thousan
to this same time last year. And there have been Thousands of people
who have cancelled trips to the USA
Surveying the number of cars crossing the border seems like it's possible to
I'm not doubting you, I'm just doubting these sources. Statistics don't make>flinch.
The media has a way of triggering people into doing things. We should turn th>ables on the media by not getting triggered, and maybe we can trigger them. ;
Reach is hard to say, I'm not sure why Musk has more of that than>accountable in a bank account or anything...
money can buy.. As for money, it looks like Putin only has about
$200 Billion in personal wealth, not bad considering he pretty much
started with nothing when he took the job
I've heard $400 billion for Putin, it's not like they keep it all
As I semi-joked rcently, it doesn't seem like it would be a huge>election sounds like it would work..
surprise to see him next find some way to stay on as President
longer than is normally allowed there..
Running as Vice President on the 2028 ticket and replacing him after
- although with the pace at which our>freedoms are being eroded, I feel like Trump could just write an
And, his comment that "We're maybe going to tone it down for our allies,>we like to tone it done by about 10%, as one day they might not be our
Carney (Liberal) is talking some good points but is, at>alternative Conservative (Pollieve). I'm sure that Carney is
heart, still a Banker who has never been elected to
anything, so he's no politician.
But he is much more level-headed and diplomatic than the
As I semi-joked rcently, it doesn't seem like it would be a huge
surprise to see him next find some way to stay on as President
longer than is normally allowed there..
T did say "vote for me and you won't ever need to vote again".
The media people think that they can "wish something true." They thin that if they wish it, want it, and say it enough times, then it will come true.
In general, that side decides their "reality" based on what they want to be true and without any facts/evidence. Then they get angry when
Reality doesn't conform.
It's the small minority of Elitists who want to run everyone else's
lives that causes the problem.
There have been some comparisons of articles posted on US news sites vs.>those on international sites. If it is to be believed, the US sites will
>often leave key negative things out of their headlines. Made up example
>here, but a US headline might read:
"Trump reinstates three suppliers of widgets"
While the international headline might read:
"Widget makers give $41million to Trump and are reinstated as defense>suppliers"
Interesting.. I wonder how much of foreign news Trump is shown or
bothers to look at himself? If nothing else it would show him who
best to attack next..
There's speculation that's misdirection too, that Trump hopes we
will vote for the party he claims he doesn't want in power here.
Another 'expert' was on our news tonight saying that what Trump really
wants (Re: 51st State) is conrol over rare minerals and such that we
have more of, which was why he was also going after Greenland and
agreeing to (somewhat) back up Ukraine in exchange for total control
over buying their rare earth elements.
He did start the tariffs on steel and aluminum, and we have already
had some layoffs due to that.. and then he backed off on those when
it's for your auto industry, likely when screamed at by your auto
people about the Billions of dollars it would cost them and the loss
of car sales when Canadians stop buying American cars out of spite
and your people buy fewer of them after the prices go way up.
People often set up hotels and entertainments in advance, often with
a deposit, and the people who had already set those up are having those things cancelled.
If nothing else there are a lot of American small business owners near
the border that are already worrying about lay offs and bankruptcy..
Rob Mccart wrote to MIKE POWELL <=->suppliers"
"Trump reinstates three suppliers of widgets"
While the international headline might read:
"Widget makers give $41million to Trump and are reinstated as defense
Interesting.. I wonder how much of foreign news Trump is shown or
bothers to look at himself? If nothing else it would show him who
best to attack next..
Rob Mccart wrote to AUGUST ABOLINS <=-
T did say "vote for me and you won't ever need to vote again".
Because the country might not survive ??
Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-
If they would pray for things to come true, then they might have better success.
But instead of praying they just say "thoughts and prayers."
(It's not the same!)
I'm noting that they control guys like me by force sometimes, but some people can be controlled by a tv broadcast, without even being forced.
At one point they probably thought that the population of idiots was growing, but it's actually shrinking. (Hooray!)
Rob Mccart wrote to MIKE POWELL <=-
Interesting.. I wonder how much of foreign news Trump is shown or
bothers to look at himself? If nothing else it would show him who
best to attack next..
I'm sure it's not that cut and dried. Poilierve is actually saying in
ads that Carney is too weak and will cave in to what Trump wants, but
P's policies are more like Trumps I think so it's hard to say if that means they will get along better or worse, although Trump seems to be hoping Carney gets in.
Another 'expert' was on our news tonight saying that what Trump really
Aaron Thomas wrote to Rob Mccart <=-
The previous president (President Biden) did a lot of (unprecedented) damage to our economy. If it weren't for him and the Democrats who
wanted to waste trillions of dollars, then Trump wouldn't be acting so tough with Canada.
>> don't need a travel agency to travel to the USA.Another problem with this information is "Travel agencies.." Canadians
They might use one if they fly.>as it has been since COVID, so there are your "no travel agent" travelers
US news outlets are reporting that traffic at border crossings is as low
US news outlets are reporting that traffic at border crossings is as low> Here's a snippet from the CBP's website:
as it has been since COVID, so there are your "no travel agent" travelers covered.
You and I both know that the media lies about most things. This is no excepti
"In February 2025, CBP processed a significant number of passenger vehicles a>orts of entry, with a notable increase of 5.2% compared to the previous perio
T did say "vote for me and you won't ever need to vote again".>it happened.
#11thprovince. I'd vote for that, but lord help our friends up North if
"In February 2025, CBP processed a significant number of passenger vehi AT>a>orts of entry, with a notable increase of 5.2% compared to the previous
>perio
>according to the CBP's February 2025 Monthly Update."
Was that compared to last month or February last year? The numbers were hugely up this year until the Trump sitaution got going..
As I've said, our gov't says travelers to the US are down by 40% in March and that's a big travel month here due to 2 weeks off in schools during the March Break (Spring Break there)..
And according to NBC News, Canadian cars crossing to the USA in February was down 23% compared to February last year.
It's the small minority of Elitists who want to run everyone else's>n be controlled by a tv broadcast, without even being forced. At one point th
lives that causes the problem.
I'm noting that they control guys like me by force sometimes, but some people
>> to look at himself? If nothing else it would show him whoI wonder how much of foreign news Trump is shown or bothers
I wonder, too, if the difference isn't so much where the news is coming>from but whether or not they are using AI to create headlines or possibly
>> will vote for the party he claims he doesn't want in power here.There's speculation that's misdirection too, that Trump hopes we
Yeah, I see that some in other things he does... what if he is making them>angry so they do something he actually wants?
There is a lot of talk about minerals and resources, including water, that>you all have more of and that Trump would like more of. He supposedly said
The previous president (President Biden) did a lot of (unprecedented) damage>our economy. If it weren't for him and the Democrats who wanted to waste tril
People often set up hotels and entertainments in advance, often with>els actually show them their reservation databases?
a deposit, and the people who had already set those up are having those things cancelled.
That might be true, but how could the media actually prove this trend? Would
Big changes need to be made here in the USA in order for us to not go bankrup>s a country. Not everything is a downhill ride, and sacrifices need to be mad
I've started reading cbc.ca and gone back to BBC News. Nothing against> American news sources, but reporting news of an administration that
Trump did say "vote for me and you won't ever need to vote again".>election process?
Because the country might not survive ??
Or that TPTB will continue to erode electronic voting systems and the
Ha.. sort of unrelated but that reminded me that they were saying today
that one virtual meeting where several of your gov't people were talking about imminent war plans for attacks on Yemen and someone messed up
(twice) and accidentally included in the people who could view that a journalist, Jeffrey Goldberg, editor-in-chief of The Atlantic.
That was the second mistake. The first mistake was doing it in a
messaging area that wasn't nearly well enough secured.
Trumps people were fast to say that nothing classified was discussed,
but apparently the attack was only 2 hours from happening and it
mentioned where and when and what weaponry they would use so, not
exactly what you want to leak out ahead of time.
The 'Blunder' was reported, but not the content..
You'd know about that better than I.. It just seems Trump is trying to do things so quickly that he will do major damage to both our economies and
your global reputation rather than taking things a little slower to repair the damage.
There seems to be a surprising amount of control over the news there.
Something we rarely seem to see here are politicians attacking news
stories. They may come out and try to defend against negative news
about them but blame it on inaccuracy rather than on 'lying reporters'.
The odd negative thing there seems to get Trump looking for ways
to shut down news services, or at least fire reporters.. Sort of
like what he wants to do with Judges that rule against him.. B)
Yes.. everyone wants is simpler but simpler is usually easier to
manipulate. Here I can vote online without leaving the house.
They mail you a pin number that can only be used once..
Funny news story the last couple of days. Poilierve (Conservative)
is trying to defend himself over discoveries that India manipulated
the vote to get him elected as head of his party.
In the end he won by enough that they figure the nembers wouldn't
have changed enough to do anything, but we constantly have people
from China and India and Russia trying to get people in power here
because they think it will benefit them somehow..
That might be true, but how could the media actually prove this trend?>els actually show them their reservation databases?
The places that set that stuff up would see cancellation numbers and see how many people are arranging for trips compared to last year.
>The media is enjoying the opportunity to highlight the inconveniences b
>the
>e not taking the time to explain the benefits.
I think the problem there might be the most immediate benefits might
go to what multi-millionaires pay in taxes and if the USA loses that estimated 1.9 million jobs, how long would it take to build up the businesses in the country to replace those jobs and then create extra
jobs as a final benefit? And all the time this is going on, almost everything you buy will cost you more..
BUT.. as time goes on, I am really starting to think it is 90% bluff
and bluster and it won't happen, or at least be MUCH reduced from
what he keeps threatening. Even the stock markets are greatly recovered from the initial losses, at least ours is..
I'm sure it's not that cut and dried. Poilierve is actually saying in> He will deal with whoever. The only real choice is whether Canada wants Tru
ads that Carney is too weak and will cave in to what Trump wants, but
P's policies are more like Trumps I think so it's hard to say if that
means they will get along better or worse, although Trump seems to be hoping Carney gets in.
Carney will cave, but P will negotiate. I don't think Trump cares who gets i
Canada has had some really high tariffs on some U.S. goods for a while now.>Trump is just doing a "what's good for the goose..." with countries like
As I've said, our gov't says travelers to the US are down by 40% in March and that's a big travel month here due to 2 weeks off in schools during>of vehicles entering, but not the number of vehicles exiting.
the March Break (Spring Break there)..
Based on what I read on CBP's website, our border patrol counts the number
Does Canada count the number of vehicles exiting?
I realized something while I was out driving yesterday: We're still in March.>e Canadians don't fly south for the winter (hehe) until summer. It's too earl
And according to NBC News, Canadian cars crossing to the USA in February was down 23% compared to February last year.> more with NBC's agenda ;)
I'll assume that NBC News got their information from the CBSA, because it ali
Hmm.. It is Years since I crossed the border so I can't say for sure.
I think counts are taken of the cars crossing the bridge or going
through the tunnel, and the USA is the only place they can be going
if they don't get refused entry.
March break is a 2 week holiday when the weather is often still pretty cold here, but usually too wet for winter sports, so a lot of people
often travel to the USA to visit various places.
And Trump agreed to a quota of the maximum amount of that stuff that
could be sold in Canada, and the quoted super high tariffs were Agreed
to as a punishment for breaking the agreement.
But Trump's memory is suspect when it goes against what he wants
to do now. It'd why he keeps breaking the terms of the last free
trade agreement he worked out with Canada and Mexico.
Does Canada count the number of vehicles exiting?
Mike Powell wrote to ROB MCCART <=-
There have been plenty of past warnings that Signal is insecure and
that Russia hacks it to keep track of "people of interest" so one must wonder why they would use it to plan an attack... or anything else official.
Mike Powell wrote to ROB MCCART <=-
DOGE is making the same mistake. Most of the things they have found,
and terminated, are ultimately being re-established because the manner
in which they handled things was illegal.
IMHO, they are trying to throw poo against the wall and see what sticks before their four years are up.
Mike Powell wrote to ROB MCCART <=-
There seems to be a surprising amount of control over the news there.
There did not used to be. IMHO, there is more now than there has been
in a while, but it did not really start with Trump. The Biden admin colluded with social media platforms to make sure certain things were quashed, for example.
Something we rarely seem to see here are politicians attacking news
stories. They may come out and try to defend against negative news
about them but blame it on inaccuracy rather than on 'lying reporters'.
The odd negative thing there seems to get Trump looking for ways
to shut down news services, or at least fire reporters.. Sort of
like what he wants to do with Judges that rule against him.. B)
Thinking back, I actually don't think that Trump was even the first one
to blame "lying reporters." He is probably the most likely to actually phrase it that way, but IIRC, Obama may have done it, Hillary Clinton certainly did, and Biden (after 2016 Trump, I know) also did at times.
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Rob Mccart wrote to Dr. What <=-
But Canada sells $55 million A DAY in automotive 'goods' to the USA
so his Tariff will be costing Americans Almost $14 million a day in increased costs, all that money just going into Trumps war chest..
Aaron Thomas wrote to Rob Mccart <=-
I spend most of the summer near the Thousand Islands Bridge, and
there's always a lot of Canadian cars driving around.
Not that I feel good about people losing their jobs, but
it's just that there's such a thing as too much
bureaucracy here in the states, like the department of
transgender animal surgeries for example.
>> things so quickly that he will do major damage to both our economies andYou'd know about that better than I.. It just seems Trump is trying to do
DOGE is making the same mistake. Most of the things they have found, and>terminated, are ultimately being re-established because the manner in which
IMHO, they are trying to throw poo against the wall and see what sticks>before their four years are up.
Thinking back, I actually don't think that Trump was even the first one to>blame "lying reporters." He is probably the most likely to actually phrase
The places that set that stuff up would see cancellation numbers and see how many people are arranging for trips compared to last year.>rd it from them. I suspect that even if it were true that reservations are do
That's what I mean; only hotels could verify this information, but I haven't
I think the problem there might be the most immediate benefits might>i-millionaires pay in taxes." What do you mean?
go to what multi-millionaires pay in taxes and if the USA loses that estimated 1.9 million jobs, how long would it take to build up the businesses in the country to replace those jobs and then create extra
jobs as a final benefit? And all the time this is going on, almost everything you buy will cost you more..
I don't know what you mean by "the most immediate benefits might go to what m
Also, I don't understand how losing 1.9 million jobs will make prices go up.>What's the scenario that makes that possible?
BUT.. as time goes on, I am really starting to think it is 90% bluff
and bluster and it won't happen, or at least be MUCH reduced from
what he keeps threatening. Even the stock markets are greatly recovered from the initial losses, at least ours is..
I like your outlook on things. I agree with you on this conclusion.
DOGE is making the same mistake. Most of the things they have found, and terminated, are ultimately being re-established because the manner in which they handled things was illegal.Or they're inflating numbers by claiming total program costs versus
actuals. It's like me closing down a home equity line of credit and
claiming that I saved $100K by doing so (even if I'd only charged a
fraction of that...)
IMHO, they are trying to throw poo against the wall and see what sticks before their four years are up.Or, they're acting like people that know they don't need to get
re-elected again?
There have been plenty of past warnings that Signal is insecure and
that Russia hacks it to keep track of "people of interest" so one must wonder why they would use it to plan an attack... or anything else official.
There was official notification NOT to use Signal for government
business, and there's the Federal Records act that mandates that foreign agencies retain records. Setting automatic deletion of messages on a third-party, prohibited service on personal cell phones just adds to the mess.
Then next question - what else are they talking about and disposing of messages on Signal? The fact that the group was called "houthi PC small group" makes me wonder if there's a larger group this spun off of?
Project 2025 calls for the use of third-party, self-deleting messages services to circumvent data archiving laws.
I'd imagine most politicians at times hate certain things that make the
news, true or not. Part of the life I guess. Maybe it just seemed
a bigger deal in Canada because we (by reputation) tend to be a little
more polite about things like that.. Explain things without calling
people names.
Not that I feel good about people losing their jobs, but
it's just that there's such a thing as too much
bureaucracy here in the states, like the department of
transgender animal surgeries for example.
I believe said "transgender" during he speech to the WH a few
weeks ago, but the correct term is "transgenic" and has nothing
to do with sex changing animals.
I spend most of the summer near the Thousand Islands Bridge, and there's always a lot of Canadian cars driving around.
They are probably there to pick up some salad dressing. :)
Not that I feel good about people losing their jobs, but
it's just that there's such a thing as too much
bureaucracy here in the states, like the department of
transgender animal surgeries for example.
I believe said "transgender" during he speech to the WH a few
weeks ago, but the correct term is "transgenic" and has nothing
to do with sex changing animals.
Okay, how about this.. Just today one of our small more touristy airlines has closed down two regular runs that go to the USA because they said
that the number of Canadians flying to the USA compared to last year is down by 320,000 seats. (That would be a total, not just their flights.)
And Canadian tourist places are going crazy trying to keep up with
all the Canadians now travelling in Canada instead of heading south.
>i-millionaires pay in taxes." What do you mean?
They are saying that most of the Traiff money collected will be used
to lower the taxes for richer people there. I'm not sure where they
got that information since Trump would definitely want to hide it from
the average person but, unlike here, I haven't heard anything from
Trump about using all that Tariff income to subsidize ordinary people
down there hurt by the higher prices or job losses. Here they say they will use the money to highly subsidize unemloyment services and shore
up companies losing business.
August is correct. Trump claimed they were transgender, but they are transgenic. The latter means that they spliced in some human genetics so they could better test things meant for humans on the mice. Has nothing to do with changing their sex or sexual preferences.
I spend most of the summer near the Thousand Islands Bridge, and there's alwa>a lot of Canadian cars driving around. I'll be shocked if there's an absence
I didn't know that until now. But who feels like taking a long road trip in M>h? Not me! (I realize that this year it's been a mild March but you know how
August is correct. Trump claimed they were transgender, but they are transgenic. The latter means that they spliced in some human genetics so
they could better test things meant for humans on the mice. Has nothing to do with changing their sex or sexual preferences.
I understand, but it still sounds like a waste. The left is not to be trusted with science anymore.
headed (my then wife and I). I think this was in Northern Georgia and
when I said Florida he laughed and said, What, it isn't hot enough for
you here??.. It was about 9 AM and 105f at the time.. B)
We had some record warm days earlier in March but at the moment Most nights and more than a few days are dropping below freezing and my long range weather shows snow on 4 of the next 6 days so the mild March
didn't take.. ---
I understand, but it still sounds like a waste. The left is not to be tr with science anymore.
Seeing as how the far right doesn't even seem to believe in science, who would you suggest we do trust with it?
But gene splicing/transgenics doesn't sound like useful science to me.
Aaron Thomas wrote to Rob Mccart <=-
It could be true, but like I said about the other scenario, it's only March. Canadians like to come down in the summer to hit the beaches and the other southern tourist attractions (Disney, Universal Studiios,
that kind of stuff.)
Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-
I understand, but it still sounds like a waste. The left is not to be trusted with science anymore.
Aaron Thomas wrote to Rob Mccart <=-
own winter homes down there (or people who haul campers.) It would blow
my mind if Canadians would stop doing that just because of something
the media said. Can you imagine them putting their getaway homes up for sale over it?
That's weird. Are you from the northern part of Ontario? It's like 70
here in Bingamton NY today.
But Canada sells $55 million A DAY in automotive 'goods' to the USA>we don't. So the tariffs cost Canada, not the U.S.
so his Tariff will be costing Americans Almost $14 million a day in increased costs, all that money just going into Trumps war chest..
It only costs us if we buy Canadian products. Since they are more expensive,
You need to get out of the thinking that people don't have motivations. If>prices rise, people will change their spending habits, not just keep buying.
>> news, true or not. Part of the life I guess. Maybe it just seemedI'd imagine most politicians at times hate certain things that make the
Although I see this changing (for the worse), I still believe that most>Americans don't default to name calling like our politicians do. :(
I believe said "transgender" during he speech to the WH a few>Why do that?
weeks ago, but the correct term is "transgenic" and has nothing
to do with sex changing animals.
You might be right, but either way, it's a human alteration of animals.
And Canadian tourist places are going crazy trying to keep up with>Everything the media says about Trump is a "warning," yet they never warned u
all the Canadians now travelling in Canada instead of heading south.
But how could so many Canadians be following the media's directions so blindl
The Americans who are falling for these jokes are going>to be pleasantly surprised. I have tons of faith in Trump.
For now, it's all squawkery. "Trump's hoarding the money so he can help rich>ple with it." I don't buy that. The world's richest people are the ones who a
Rob Mccart wrote to Dr. What <=-
but, are you saying you guys will just stop buying those models of American cars?
I don't see this happening though. Your auto makers know they can't suddenly change things to eliminate buying from Canada,
Seeing as how the far right doesn't even seem to believe in science, who would you suggest we do trust with it?
We need to be our own scientists whenever possible, especially when it comes to
statistics.
But gene splicing/transgenics doesn't sound like useful science to me
So what you are saying is you don't think it is useful to have a mouse that is compatible with many different tissue types for medical
research. Whats your degree in?
They used to be crazy about hot weather. I managed Northern Telecom
phone systems in a former life, and their user group meetings were
always in July, in the most miserably hot places - Nashville, Phoenix, Long Beach, Tampa...
I suppose now they'll fly over the US and head to Mexico. I hear San Miguel De Allende is wonderful that time of year...
I suppose now they'll fly over the US and head to Mexico. I hear San Miguel De Allende is wonderful that time of year...
$444 nonstop from Toronto to Leon - that's cheap. Cheaper still once you're there.
The morality of that is maybe another discussion. Is a Human life worth more than a mouse's life? Just don't ask the mice.. B)
Another form of that is the experiments modifying pigs so we can get Hearts and kidneys and such from them for transplants since there are
a lot more people needing organs than there are organs available..
Some of those tariffs are already on so it's not all just warnings.
We already have had some direct layoffs due to them.
Plus when things are unstable companies stop investing money in
expansion and hesitate to take on big job contracts when they don't
know what materials might be costing them a few months from now. Your economy stops growing, and may even shrink just due to the threats.
They had an American on our news tonight saying that Elon Musk is
Trump's co-president, and that he spent $200 Million helping get
Trump elected. I didn't get more details than those basics but,
if true, I don't imagine Musk did it out of his love of America.
He would be expecting to get a lot more than his investment back.
Seeing as how the far right doesn't even seem to believe in science would you suggest we do trust with it?
We need to be our own scientists whenever possible, especially when it co >to
statistics.
If these far right scientists are anything like Trump's far right appointees, they will all be "yes men" and we won't learn anything of significance... except how unqualified our "scientists" are.
But gene splicing/transgenics doesn't sound like useful science to m
So what you are saying is you don't think it is useful to have a mouse that is compatible with many different tissue types for medical research. Whats your degree in?
Having mice to use as a model is useful, but gene modification isn't. Refer to
the adverse effects of the experimental covid "vaccine."
Enough research has already been done to keep humans healthy and alive for 100
years of age or more. We don't need to start modifying genes now. It's proven to be an unhealthy failure in wake of the covid-19 experiment.
No matter what our degrees are in, if we're paying taxes in America then we have a say in how the money should be spent. My suggestion is let God do his job.
"We killed hundreds of beagle pups with a virus that we made, a similar virus escaped from one of our laboratories, and now our pals at Pfizer will be injecting you with a cell-altering vaccine, and if you say no, our pals in the
government will fire you and it will permanently tarnish your resume."
Aaron Thomas wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-
Right. Mexico seems like a safe place to conduct business meetings.
Enough research has already been done to keep humans healthy and alive f 100
years of age or more. We don't need to start modifying genes now. It's p to be an unhealthy failure in wake of the covid-19 experiment.
They are not researching how to modify *OUR* genes, they are modifying
the mouse genes so that they are more like ours so they can then do testing on them.
If we had sat on our hands and let God do his job, we'd not have had several decades without measles outbreaks, smallpox outbreaks, or polio outbreaks. We'd also all be dying a whole lot younger than we
do now. All of that was brought to us by people using their God-given brains and talents to "do science."
"We killed hundreds of beagle pups with a virus that we made, a similar escaped from one of our laboratories, and now our pals at Pfizer will be injecting you with a cell-altering vaccine, and if you say no, our pals the
government will fire you and it will permanently tarnish your resume."
The dogs were not killed by COVID. They were supposedly killed by sand flies. The story came out during COVID to darken Fauci's reputation, but it was not a COVID experiment.
oIf we had sat on our hands and let God do his job, we'd not have had several decades without measles outbreaks, smallpox outbreaks, or polio outbreaks. We'd also all be dying a whole lot younger than we
do now. All of that was brought to us by people using their God-given brains and talents to "do science."
I'm skeptical about where those viruses came from in the first place. We've
secretive biolabs mutating viruses, and we've got bureaucrats funding them.
utThe dogs were not killed by COVID. They were supposedly killed by sand flies. The story came out during COVID to darken Fauci's reputation,
it was not a COVID experiment.
Are you sure? I think the dogs were euthanized after being intentionally attacked by insects. Not killed by covid or by the insects themselves.
But what difference does it make how the dogs were killed? They were killedo
"science." And they died in vain.
But what difference does it make how the dogs were killed? They were kilo
"science." And they died in vain.
The difference is that one of us (not me!) linked them as an example in a story about mutating the COVID virus. ;)
Although I do not condone the methods, that experiment was not funded by Fauci's organization, NIAID. Snopes and FactCheck.org both found that claim to be false. Also, the dogs had to be used for that one because Beagles are the animals that carry the parasite that the experiment was about.
I like Georgia. People are friendly there. But Florida has more tourist attra>ons.
It would blow my mind if Canadians would stop doing that just> because of something the media said. Can you imagine them putting
We had some record warm days earlier in March but at the moment Most>ngamton NY today.
nights and more than a few days are dropping below freezing and my long range weather shows snow on 4 of the next 6 days so the mild March
didn't take.. ---
That's weird. Are you from the northern part of Ontario? It's like 70 here in
own winter homes down there (or people who haul campers.) It would blow> conflict, disrespect from a trusted ally and continued threats of
my mind if Canadians would stop doing that just because of something
the media said. Can you imagine them putting their getaway homes up for sale over it?
I think they would do that over a campaign of escalated economic
They used to be crazy about hot weather. I managed Northern Telecom>phone systems in a former life, and their user group meetings were
I suppose now they'll fly over the US and head to Mexico. I hear San>Miguel De Allende is wonderful that time of year...
>>statistics.We need to be our own scientists whenever possible, especially when it comes
If these far right scientists are anything like Trump's far right>appointees, they will all be "yes men" and we won't learn anything of
I don't think the majority of Canadians are insane, and I don't think they wi>let psychic-predictions control their lives. The media doesn't speak for peop
"We killed hundreds of beagle pups with a virus that we made, a similar virus>caped from one of our laboratories, and now our pals at Pfizer will be inject
Plus when things are unstable companies stop investing money in> on other countries is a bad idea, especially on a country like the USA that'
expansion and hesitate to take on big job contracts when they don't
know what materials might be costing them a few months from now. Your economy stops growing, and may even shrink just due to the threats.
This should serve as a wake-up call for Canadians to avoid globalism. Depende
Thanks to the folks who just want to let "God do his job," we>now have measles back. "God helps those who help themselves" -- if you just
I don't think the majority of Canadians are insane, and I don't think they wi>let psychic-predictions control their lives. The media doesn't speak for peop
> and I haven't seen or heard any actual Canadians vow to boycott the USA.
You think they'd allow things like that on your news stations?
That would make Trump look bad.. B)
I think that Covid was a lot like Y2K.. Everyone was in a panic over
the year 2000 hitting our computers so we spent billions of dollars
to prevent it, and 'that was a total waste because it never happend'..
Well Duh!.. We made sure it wouldn't happen, that's why it didn't..
As I say, people can argue left and right but from my own personal
experience virtually all of my relatives got the Covid vaccines
plus all of the boosters to cover it changing, and none of them who
got the vaccines ever got Covid.. But one family group who worried
about the vaccine and refused to get it ended up having Covid either
3 or 4 times as the Covid mutated, often putting these fairly young
people (under 40 and kids) in bed for days at a time. No way to know
if there was any permanent damage done to them by Covid or not.
I've gotten all the recommended shots and have had no side effects
and never caught Covid. None of my relatives ever had more than
feeling a bit under the weather for a day or two after the vaccine
and none caught Covid.
No vaccine ever released had zero people who had a bad reaction to
them, including deaths, not when you're talking millions of varied
people, but the anti-vaxxers will make sure that those who do have
a bad reaction possibly caused by the vaccine will make absolutely
sure it gets, if not on the news, at least on all the conspiracy
web sites and blogs..
> and I haven't seen or heard any actual Canadians vow to boycott the US
You think they'd allow things like that on your news stations?
That would make Trump look bad.. B)
The arguments over Covid and vaccines can be debated forever but
millions died before the vaccines came out and Covid, like all
clever viruses, has slowly evolved to be somewhat less dangerous
because it's suicide for an organism to kill the very thing it
lives in and relies on for reproduction.
Natures way..
> on other countries is a bad idea, especially on a country like the USA
> that'
>een going through unprecedented changes in recent years.
No 'modern' country can survive without buying things from other
countries since none of us have everything required in the modern world, and often we don't have enough of many things that we do have.
> and I haven't seen or heard any actual Canadians vow to boycott the
You think they'd allow things like that on your news stations?
That would make Trump look bad.. B)
I have seen it in the news here, which makes me think Aaron is not watching much news. ;)
Rob Mccart wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-
They were talking up here on the news about a Lot of people who
cancelled vacations in the USA and were going to Mexico instead, as
well as a lot of other places too of course, or staying in Canada..
I haven't seen or heard any actual Canadians vow to boycott the USA.>> That would make Trump look bad.. B)
You think they'd allow things like that on your news stations?
I have seen it in the news here, which makes me think Aaron is not watching>much news. ;)
My extended family had a slightly different experience. A couple of us>stayed up to date on our shots *and* also continued to take the other
millions died before the vaccines came out and Covid, like all>ating around today are waning in potency is irrelevant. Covid-19 is almost ce
clever viruses, has slowly evolved to be somewhat less dangerous
because it's suicide for an organism to kill the very thing it
lives in and relies on for reproduction. Natures way..
But consider this: Covid-19 isn't "nature's way." Whether or not the strains
Modern isn't all it's cracked up to be. I'm trying to convince my wife that w>eed to disconnect ourselves (literally) from the electric company and start u
To me, the $300 electric bill is a wake up call.
Mexico and Canada pulling and end-run around the USA and helping each>other out would be the perfect response to the USA's current
On a similar note, Trump has made strides in world peace - just>unintentionally. His tarriff warfare has gotten China, Korea and Japan
>> That would make Trump look bad.. B)You think they'd allow things like that on your news stations?
I have seen it in the news here, which makes me think Aaron is not watching>much news. ;)
I've noticed some people tend to only pay attention to the news that
says what they want to hear, not that I'm suggesting.... B)
There's been so much talk (crap?) lately about how vaccines are
bad for you, but now we have things like Measles and Polio coming
back. On the news tonight they mentioned one small district that
had checked the schools to make sure the kids all had the required
vaccine shots, and they ended up telling over 1600 kids to go home
and not come back until their shots were up to date.
>g a wood stove and a gas generator (and a lot less electric.)
Ha.. you are describing my life.. I'm still on the electric grid but
I live in the woods in a very primitive way. I don't have running
water in winter and only cold running water in summer. An outhouse.
To me, the $300 electric bill is a wake up call.
My electric bills hit over $500 this winter, but I get a bit of a rebate so I think the highest was $425 or so..
>g a wood stove and a gas generator (and a lot less electric.)
Ha.. you are describing my life.. I'm still on the electric grid but
I live in the woods in a very primitive way. I don't have running
water in winter and only cold running water in summer. An outhouse.
I mentioned how we have more than 1 floor, but I told my wife "we can sleep downstairs in the winter to stay warm." I'm serious
about it, but she has this "let's just pay the bill" attitude.
To me, the $300 electric bill is a wake up call.
My electric bills hit over $500 this winter, but I get a bit of a rebate so I think the highest was $425 or so..
That's outrageous. When I first moved into this house I was seeing like $150 in the winter and about $70 in the summer. Now it's
around $300 every month, no matter how much gas or electric we use (it's all on 1 bill.)
I'm ready to put my foot down (and up the electric company's butt!)
Rob Mccart wrote to MIKE POWELL <=-
I've noticed some people tend to only pay attention to the news that
says what they want to hear, not that I'm suggesting.... B)
Rob Mccart wrote to MIKE POWELL <=-
Ouch.. Yes, some common sense (the least common of all senses?) goes
a long way. The vaccines boost your immune system but don't make you totally immune to getting a disease, although if you do get it you
often get a milder and shorter case of it..
There's been so much talk (crap?) lately about how vaccines are
bad for you,
but now we have things like Measles and Polio coming back.
On the news tonight they mentioned one small district that
had checked the schools to make sure the kids all had the required
vaccine shots, and they ended up telling over 1600 kids to go home
and not come back until their shots were up to date.
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