• Global Wars...

    From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to All on Monday, September 19, 2022 23:03:00
    I've written to John Dailey without answer, but I've got the latest version
    of global wars and want to run it as an ibbs game. Unfortunately, I can't
    even start the executable, it complains about an error in line 60 of the config. The war.cfg file only shows 59 lines of info, and line 60 is all hypens. The executable says it needs to be A, N or P but not what for. Any ideas anyone?

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  • From Jas Hud@1:103/705 to Martin Kazmaier on Wednesday, September 21, 2022 02:58:33
    To: Martin Kazmaier
    Re: Global Wars...
    By: Martin Kazmaier to All on Mon Sep 19 2022 11:03 pm

    I've written to John Dailey without answer, but I've got the latest version of global wars and want to run it as an ibbs game. Unfortunately, I can't even start the executable, it complains about an error in line 60 of the config. The war.cfg file only shows 59 lines of info, and line 60 is all hypens. The executable says it needs to be A, N or P but not what for. Any ideas anyone?

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    everyone that says they wrote to john dailey with no answer ended up finding out that he DID answer them, they just didn't look in their spam folder or
    they overlooked it somehow.

    here is my working war.cfg from datastream with
    redacted info
    https://pastebin.com/raw/cgCdX4xa

    Also, you ran into problems and didn't bother to read the documentation.
    in 1 minute i pulled it up and did a search and found this

    "LINE 59: Allow Direct Fortifications? (A/N/P) (P recommended)
    Enabling Direct Fortifications allows a player to fortify armies from
    one country directly to any other country, provided he occupies both
    countries and all countries in between so as to form a continuous
    chain of connected countries. The move is counted as 1 fortification
    move regardless of the distance between the countries. With Direct
    Fortifications disabled, fortifications can only occur between the
    player's adjacent countries, with each fortification counting as one
    move. A : All games will use Direct Fortifications N : No games will
    use Direct Fortifications. Disables Direct Fortifications in all
    games. P : Allows a player to choose if he wants Direct Fortifications
    enabled or disabled (for that game only) when he begins a new game.
    "

    this paragraph explains what a/n/p stands for

    so i think you're trying too hard. just relax and check for your mistakes.
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  • From MATT MUNSON@1:218/109 to Martin Kazmaier on Thursday, September 22, 2022 20:46:22
    info, and line 60 is all hypens. The executable says it needs to be A,
    N or P but not what for. Any ideas anyone?

    Allow Direct Fortifications. The config file will explain it.
    A: all games use direct fortifications
    N: No games use direct fortifications
    P: Allow player to choose if they want the fortifications in their game or not.

    ... This virus requires Microsoft Windows 3.x

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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Jas Hud on Monday, September 26, 2022 18:08:00
    version
    of global wars and want to run it as an ibbs game. Unfortunately, I
    can't
    even start the executable, it complains about an error in line 60 of
    the
    config. The war.cfg file only shows 59 lines of info, and line 60 is
    all
    hypens. The executable says it needs to be A, N or P but not what for.
    everyone that says they wrote to john dailey with no answer ended up
    finding out that he DID answer them, they just didn't look in their spam folder or they overlooked it somehow.

    I check my spam folder daily and have him sending to my gmail instead of hotmail account for that reason. Also, you listed link 59, that's fine. The error is line 60, which there is not one of. The war.cfg file only lists 59 lines.

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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to MATT MUNSON on Monday, September 26, 2022 18:09:00
    info, and line 60 is all hypens. The executable says it needs to be
    A,
    N or P but not what for. Any ideas anyone?

    Allow Direct Fortifications. The config file will explain it. A: all
    games use direct fortifications N: No games use direct
    fortifications P: Allow player to choose if they want the
    fortifications in their game or not.

    Yeah, that's line 59. The error is line 60, which doesn't exist.

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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Jas Hud on Monday, September 26, 2022 18:44:00
    everyone that says they wrote to john dailey with no answer ended up
    finding out that he DID answer them, they just didn't look in their spam folder or they overlooked it somehow.

    I must clarify that he did answer my original email asking if I entered my
    name and key. I said I did, and that line 60 is the error, which again
    doesn't exist. I emailed him my config a while back so he could test it and haven't heard from him since.

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  • From Jas Hud@1:103/705 to Martin Kazmaier on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 16:10:17
    To: Martin Kazmaier
    Re: Global Wars...
    By: Martin Kazmaier to Jas Hud on Mon Sep 26 2022 06:08 pm

    I check my spam folder daily and have him sending to my gmail instead of hotmail account for that reason. Also, you listed link 59, that's fine.

    i listed link 59? you sure about that? i posted the entire cfg, didnt i?

    i think you just made a mistake on your cfg file https://i.imgur.com/HFH7v81.png
    that's line 60 right there.

    like i said you are trying too hard. you're making mistakes.
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  • From Jas Hud@1:103/705 to Martin Kazmaier on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 16:11:29
    To: Martin Kazmaier
    Re: Re: Global Wars...
    By: Martin Kazmaier to MATT MUNSON on Mon Sep 26 2022 06:09 pm

    Allow Direct Fortifications. The config file will explain it. A: all games use direct fortifications N: No games use direct
    fortifications P: Allow player to choose if they want the
    fortifications in their game or not.

    Yeah, that's line 59. The error is line 60, which doesn't exist.


    you asked what that means.

    we EXPLAINED it to you. it's in the documentation.
    line 60 doesnt exist in YOUR cfg.


    read the documentation and also correct your cfg file.
    you are doing it wrong.
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  • From Jas Hud@1:103/705 to Martin Kazmaier on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 16:13:39
    To: Martin Kazmaier
    Re: Global Wars...
    By: Martin Kazmaier to Jas Hud on Mon Sep 26 2022 06:44 pm

    everyone that says they wrote to john dailey with no answer ended up finding out that he DID answer them, they just didn't look in their spam folder or they overlooked it somehow.

    I must clarify that he did answer my original email asking if I entered my name and key. I said I did, and that line 60 is the error, which again doesn't exist. I emailed him my config a while back so he could test it and haven't heard from him since.


    i literally sent you a pastebin link of a working cfg file.
    jd probably doesn't want to be bothered by you.

    just fix it. it's not brain surgery.
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  • From Fzf@1:105/500 to Martin Kazmaier on Wednesday, September 28, 2022 07:06:21
    Re: Global Wars...
    By: Martin Kazmaier to All on Mon Sep 19 2022 11:03 pm

    ...but I've got the latest
    version of global wars and want to run it as an ibbs game.

    The war.cfg file only shows 59 lines of info, and line 60
    is all hypens.

    Version 3.x (inter-BBS version) has a few additional configuration items compared to v2.7. It sounds like you have copied over an existing configuration file from a 2.7 installation. The additional lines are:

    LINE 60: Allow Fixed Turn Order games? A/N/P
    LINE 61: Pass turn to next player in Fixed Turn Order games if player AWOL. LINE 62: BBS identifier (only the first 17 characters are used)
    LINE 63: Enable InterBBS games (Y/N)

    Have a look at the comments in the example configuration file that came with 3.0. It will explain these settings in detail.
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  • From Fzf@1:105/500 to Jas Hud on Wednesday, September 28, 2022 07:15:30
    Re: Global Wars...
    By: Jas Hud to Martin Kazmaier on Tue Sep 27 2022 04:10 pm


    i listed link 59? you sure about that? i posted the entire cfg, didnt i?

    When I visited your pastebin link shortly after it was posted it contained a 59 line configuration file which did not contain the line(s) in question. It's now been updated to the new format.
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  • From Gary McCulloch@1:154/50 to All on Wednesday, September 28, 2022 11:19:56
    I run a classic Commodore Amiga version of this multi-person BBS game.

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  • From Jas Hud@1:103/705 to Fzf on Wednesday, September 28, 2022 16:26:18
    To: Fzf
    Re: Global Wars...
    By: Fzf to Jas Hud on Wed Sep 28 2022 07:15 am

    Re: Global Wars...
    By: Jas Hud to Martin Kazmaier on Tue Sep 27 2022 04:10 pm


    i listed link 59? you sure about that? i posted the entire cfg, didnt i?

    When I visited your pastebin link shortly after it was posted it contained a 59 line configuration file which did not contain the line(s) in question. It's now been updated to the new format.

    no it did not.
    i've even done screenshots. you are the guy with the 59 lines
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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Jas Hud on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 21:54:00
    Ok, My config is different. I don't show anything past allow direct fortifications. I'll add those lines and see what happens. Thanks!

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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Jas Hud on Tuesday, September 27, 2022 21:58:00
    Again, I apologize and thanks. It's starting now. My documentation doesn't show anything past line 59 and war.cfg's explanation didn't either. I may
    have skipped an update and went straight to the last one which didn't update the config file. Regardless, I think it's working now.

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  • From Jas Hud@1:103/705 to Martin Kazmaier on Thursday, September 29, 2022 16:02:55
    To: Martin Kazmaier
    Re: Global Wars...
    By: Martin Kazmaier to Jas Hud on Tue Sep 27 2022 09:54 pm

    Ok, My config is different. I don't show anything past allow direct fortifications. I'll add those lines and see what happens. Thanks!

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    you need to delete the one you are messing with and use a default one and change it.
    that way there won't be any more problems.
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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Jas Hud on Saturday, October 01, 2022 20:41:00
    you need to delete the one you are messing with and use a default one and change it. that way there won't be any more problems.

    I got it from the original global war archive. It is the default one. I'm
    not sure where you guys found yours...

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  • From Jas Hud@1:103/705 to Fzf on Sunday, October 02, 2022 17:22:49

    Re: Global Wars...
    By: Martin Kazmaier to All on Mon Sep 19 2022 11:03 pm

    Version 3.x (inter-BBS version) has a few additional configuration items compared to v2.7. It sounds like you have copied over an existing configuration file from a 2.7 installation. The additional lines are:

    LINE 60: Allow Fixed Turn Order games? A/N/P
    LINE 61: Pass turn to next player in Fixed Turn Order games if player AWOL. LINE 62: BBS identifier (only the first 17 characters are used)
    LINE 63: Enable InterBBS games (Y/N)

    Have a look at the comments in the example configuration file that came with 3.0. It will explain these settings in detail.
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    okay for some reason this msg didn't show up on my bbs. i poll vert via nntp for this fidonet echo.

    so i took the default 2.7
    i copied over my old old old old war.cfg

    then i see your post and i go get the v3.x ibbs version

    still works. https://i.imgur.com/VjovU9O.png

    so martin just has an error in his config file.
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  • From Jas Hud@1:103/705 to Martin Kazmaier on Sunday, October 02, 2022 19:01:54
    To: Martin Kazmaier
    Re: Global Wars...
    By: Martin Kazmaier to Jas Hud on Sat Oct 01 2022 08:41 pm

    you need to delete the one you are messing with and use a default one and change it. that way there won't be any more problems.

    I got it from the original global war archive. It is the default one.

    I'm
    not sure where you guys found yours...

    so what the shit is your problem?
    this back and forth stuff is exhausting
    did you get it working or not?

    i have v 2.7 which says maint release.

    what your problem probably is, is a bad line in your config.
    if there's any problems with the official release email the owner.

    i downloadd the version from his website. i then used my datstream war.cfg

    it has more lines than yours. it works
    https://i.imgur.com/Xl6bYqw.png
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  • From Martin Kazmaier@1:340/1101 to Jas Hud on Monday, October 03, 2022 21:05:00
    Hopefully this will be the end of it. I got the war.cfg from 2.7, then I downloaded 3.06. 3.05 has a NEW war.cfg, but 3.06 does not. That is where I went wrong. I'm working now. Thank you for your help!

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  • From Jas Hud@1:103/705 to Martin Kazmaier on Tuesday, October 04, 2022 05:51:03
    To: Martin Kazmaier
    Re: Global Wars...
    By: Martin Kazmaier to Jas Hud on Mon Oct 03 2022 09:05 pm

    Hopefully this will be the end of it. I got the war.cfg from 2.7, then I downloaded 3.06. 3.05 has a NEW war.cfg, but 3.06 does not. That is where I went wrong. I'm working now. Thank you for your help!


    if you say so. you didnt say what version you were running from the beginning.

    that's what you should do right off the bat.

    what OS
    what's the problem
    whats the version of everything.
    what bbs software
    post config screenshots

    if you don't do this shit it goes on for weeks.
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  • From Fzf@1:105/500 to Jas Hud on Wednesday, October 05, 2022 12:41:42
    Re: Global Wars...
    By: Jas Hud to Fzf on Wed Sep 28 2022 04:26 pm

    When I visited your pastebin link shortly after it was posted it
    contained a 59 line configuration file which did not contain the
    line(s) in question. It's now been updated to the new format.

    no it did not.
    i've even done screenshots.

    I would have sworn it was different. But I could have been thinking of something else or was just mistaken. So if I was wrong, please accept my apology.

    you are the guy with the 59 lines

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  • From Fzf@1:105/500 to Jas Hud on Wednesday, October 05, 2022 12:49:34
    Re: Global Wars...
    By: Jas Hud to Fzf on Sun Oct 02 2022 05:22 pm

    so i took the default 2.7
    i copied over my old old old old war.cfg

    then i see your post and i go get the v3.x ibbs version
    still works. https://i.imgur.com/VjovU9O.png

    Your configuration works in version 3.0 because it **IS** a version 3.0 configuration file.

    The same configuration file will also work in a 2.7 installation. 3.0 did not change the existing 59 configuration lines, it merely added to them. The first 59 lines are the same between the two versions. So 2.7 will read a 3.0 configuration file and just ignore the additional lines.

    so martin just has an error in his config file.

    It's a 2.7 configuration file. He was complaining of only 59 lines of information in his config file and line 60 was all hyphens. Here is the end of the options in the default 2.7 WAR.CFG. Line numbers have been added and the text is chopped at column 65 so lines don't get wrapped:

    57: 5 Bonus armies for occupying N. America
    58: 2 Bonus armies for occupying S. America
    59: P Allow direct fortifications? (A/N/P)
    60: -------------------------------------------------------------
    61: DO NOT INSERT OR DELETE ANY LINES ABOVE THIS HORIZONTAL LINE!
    62: PLEASE BE CAREFUL WHEN EDITING THIS FILE!
    63:
    64: Global War expects to find the values it is looking for on s
    65: lines. Your registration number MUST be on LINE 1, your BBS
    66: on LINE 2, etc. You must be very careful not to insert or d
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  • From Fzf@1:105/500 to Martin Kazmaier on Wednesday, October 05, 2022 12:54:32
    Re: Global Wars...
    By: Martin Kazmaier to Jas Hud on Mon Oct 03 2022 09:05 pm

    Hopefully this will be the end of it. I got the war.cfg from 2.7, then I downloaded 3.06. 3.05 has a NEW war.cfg, but 3.06 does not. That is where I went wrong. I'm working now. Thank you for your help!

    3.06 is meant to be unpacked over a 3.05 installation, not a 2.7. There are files other than WAR.EXE that are updated after 2.7 that you likely now do not have installed.
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  • From Jas Hud@1:103/705 to Fzf on Thursday, October 06, 2022 00:25:40
    To: Fzf
    Re: Global Wars...
    By: Fzf to Jas Hud on Wed Oct 05 2022 12:41 pm

    no it did not.
    i've even done screenshots.

    I would have sworn it was different. But I could have been thinking of something else or was just mistaken. So if I was wrong, please accept my apology.

    sometimes you need to rip it all out and redo it.
    especially when it's operator error. everyone makes mistakes, and when you
    try too hard you can lose focus.

    you are the guy with the 59 lines

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    so are you both having problems with it?
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  • From Jas Hud@1:103/705 to Fzf on Thursday, October 06, 2022 00:29:29
    To: Fzf
    Re: Global Wars...
    By: Fzf to Jas Hud on Wed Oct 05 2022 12:49 pm


    so martin just has an error in his config file.

    It's a 2.7 configuration file. He was complaining of only 59 lines of information in his config file and line 60 was all hyphens. Here is the end of the options in the default 2.7 WAR.CFG. Line numbers have been added and the text is chopped at column 65 so lines don't get wrapped:

    all i know is i have 2.7 running and that's what the config was.

    i dont think he even mentioned what version he was using.
    it's important to do things the right way or it's going to take a month to
    get a stupid doorgame working which is nuts.
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JAS HUD on Thursday, October 06, 2022 16:34:00
    sometimes you need to rip it all out and redo it.
    especially when it's operator error. everyone makes mistakes, and when you try too hard you can lose focus.

    Or start over in a new directory. I have a couple of directories with some LORD false-starts or failed upgrades. I need to weed those out. :)


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  • From Martin Kazmaier@2:423/120 to Fzf on Friday, October 07, 2022 06:31:00
    3.06 is meant to be unpacked over a 3.05 installation, not a 2.7. There
    are files other than WAR.EXE that are updated after 2.7 that you likely
    now do not have installed.

    Yes, that was not clear to me, but I did resolve that issue after realizing how many files were in the 3.05 install. I'm now ibbs capable with
    league618.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to MARTIN KAZMAIER on Friday, October 07, 2022 18:00:00
    Yes, that was not clear to me, but I did resolve that issue after realizing how many files were in the 3.05 install. I'm now ibbs capable with league618.

    Glad to hear you got it worked out!

    Mike


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