• Does anyone still use

    From Mauro Veiga@4:801/194 to CHARLES PIERSON on Monday, September 14, 2020 10:40:00
    Quoting Charles Pierson to Mauro Veiga at 09-13-20 22:36 <=-

    I love text screen programs. My laptops have DOS-only partitions,
    but actually i use more emulators like vDosPlus or directly from the
    command line on Windows 7 x86.

    I love DOS as well. I just don't have a system to run it on. My PC at
    the house necessarily has to be Windows because of access my grandchildren need for school and the like when they visit.

    Emulators or VMs not are the same thing but are fun. On laptops i
    created two primary partition - one small for DOS and the rest for
    Windows. But i use emulators must of the time.



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  • From Mauro Veiga@4:801/194 to KURT WEISKE on Monday, September 14, 2020 10:41:00
    Quoting Kurt Weiske to Mauro Veiga at 09-13-20 15:33 <=-

    Subject: Re: Does anyone still use DOS for anything
    Mauro Veiga wrote to Charles Pierson <=-

    I love text screen programs. My laptops have DOS-only partitions,
    but actually i use more emulators like vDosPlus or directly from
    the command line on Windows 7 x86.

    I love the look of vDosPlus on my 16:9 monitor; the fonts look proportionally correct and sharp. I'm doing more text editing using
    my old DOS-era tools (Qedit and VDE) now with VDP.

    I love vDosPlus look too. The original font is nice but stay better
    with nk57 Expanded font on larger monitors. QEdit is great. I
    love Boxer/DOS too.



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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Mauro Veiga on Tuesday, September 15, 2020 09:57:00
    Mauro Veiga wrote to CHARLES PIERSON <=-

    Emulators or VMs not are the same thing but are fun. On laptops i
    created two primary partition - one small for DOS and the rest for
    Windows. But i use emulators must of the time.

    I'm tempted to get a thin client and put DOS on it - I have a 4:3 VGA
    monitor that'd do nicely with it. Alas, no room. So, an emulator it
    is, for now.

    If I could find a .wav file of an AT starting up and beeping, maybe
    that'd help me stick to DOSBOX...

    It's funny how much sound plays a part in my mostalgia - the boot,
    those loud power supply fans, spinning MFM drives, one beep good, two
    beeps bad out of a little tinny speaker inside the case. The Telix
    connect sound. All of the sounds in DOOM...


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  • From Dennis Katsonis@1:124/5016 to Kurt Weiske on Thursday, September 17, 2020 11:27:00
    Kurt Weiske wrote to Mauro Veiga <=-

    Mauro Veiga wrote to CHARLES PIERSON <=-

    Emulators or VMs not are the same thing but are fun. On laptops i
    created two primary partition - one small for DOS and the rest for
    Windows. But i use emulators must of the time.

    I'm tempted to get a thin client and put DOS on it - I have a 4:3 VGA monitor that'd do nicely with it. Alas, no room. So, an emulator it
    is, for now.

    If I could find a .wav file of an AT starting up and beeping, maybe
    that'd help me stick to DOSBOX...

    It's funny how much sound plays a part in my mostalgia - the boot,
    those loud power supply fans, spinning MFM drives, one beep good, two beeps bad out of a little tinny speaker inside the case. The Telix
    connect sound. All of the sounds in DOOM...

    The sounds and sights do play a part, perhaps the most important one. Commodore 64 emulation never looked right until Vice put in CRT emulation. The tactile experience of using the keyboard, loading the disks, the way the monitors look, the fan and disks sounds is definately a large part of it. I have a few old DOS machines, and using the VGA CRT is an important part of the 'how it was' experience. I don't get people who connect an old machine to an LCD display.

    For me, the joy of using the older machines is how they looked, felt and sounded, more than the specific software.

    I'm sure you can find that WAV file of an older AT computer starting up. If I had a better microphone, I'd record one for you. But hey, I've got a 10 year old Phenom II machine, and IT still beeps once on start up, I installed a PC speaker in it after many years thinking I couldn't. I think most desktops will still have PC speaker pins, even if the cases don't have the speaker.

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  • From Mauro Veiga@4:801/194.2 to Kurt Weiske on Thursday, September 17, 2020 10:41:01
    Quoting Kurt Weiske to Mauro Veiga <=-

    Emulators or VMs not are the same thing but are fun. On laptops i
    created two primary partition - one small for DOS and the rest for
    Windows. But i use emulators must of the time.

    I'm tempted to get a thin client and put DOS on it - I have a 4:3 VGA monitor that'd do nicely with it. Alas, no room. So, an emulator it
    is, for now.

    If I could find a .wav file of an AT starting up and beeping, maybe
    that'd help me stick to DOSBOX...

    It's funny how much sound plays a part in my mostalgia - the boot,
    those loud power supply fans, spinning MFM drives, one beep good, two beeps bad out of a little tinny speaker inside the case. The Telix
    connect sound. All of the sounds in DOOM...

    Sure. The experience of use old hardware is unique. On late
    90's i make a 286 with RLL hard drive and CGA monitor from junk
    parts and loved the experience. Unfortunately on new home after
    marriage don't had room for this things. Now only emulators or VMs.



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