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  • Goodbye Columbus

    From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to ALL on Thursday, October 21, 2021 00:02:54
    Hello Everybody,

    Björn knew it all along, but wisely chose to remain quiet.
    And now we know why. Science has proven beyond the shadow of
    a doubt, the Vikings were here first - long before Columbus
    took his maiden voyage -

    Goodbye, Columbus: Vikings crossed the Atlantic 1,000 years ago

    Oct 20 (Reuters) - Long before Columbus crossed the Atlantic, eight timber-framed buildings covered in sod stood on a terrace above a peat
    bog and stream at the northern tip of Canada's island of Newfoundland,
    evidence that the Vikings had reached the New World first.

    But precisely when the Vikings journeyed to establish the L'Anse
    aux Meadows settlement had remained unclear - until now.

    Scientists on Wednesday said a new type of dating technique using
    a long-ago solar storm as a reference point revealed that the
    settlement was occupied in 1021 AD, exactly a millennium ago and
    471 years before the first voyage of Columbus. The technique was
    used on three pieces of wood cut for the settlement, all pointing
    to the same year.

    The Viking voyage represents multiple milestones for humankind. The
    settlement offers the earliest-known evidence of a transatlantic
    crossing. It also marks the place where the globe was finally encircled
    by humans, who thousands of years earlier had trekked into North
    America over a land bridge that once connected Siberia to Alaska.

    https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/science/goodbye-columbus-vikings -crossed-atlantic-1000-years-ago-2021-10-20/


    I’m sure this is already well known among Swedes and all other
    Scandinavians, but this is a recent story involving science.
    Not a fairy tale, as others have claimed. Now the only question
    that remains is who should be honored as the one who discovered
    America? I mean, Columbus Day will never be the same ...

    --Lee

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Lee Lofaso on Thursday, October 21, 2021 00:16:55
    Now the only question
    that remains is who should be honored as the one who discovered
    America? I mean, Columbus Day will never be the same ...

    There were already humans living in North America when the Vikings arrived ... nobody really discovered it.

    \%/@rd
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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Ward Dossche on Thursday, October 21, 2021 17:26:24
    Hello Ward,

    Now the only question
    that remains is who should be honored as the one who discovered
    America? I mean, Columbus Day will never be the same ...

    There were already humans living in North America when the Vikings arrived ... nobody really discovered it.

    Listen up, bub. Somebody had to get here first.
    And it sure the heck wasn't me!

    --Lee

    --
    Pork. The One You Love.
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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Ward Dossche on Thursday, October 21, 2021 19:32:33
    There were already humans living in North America when the Vikings
    arrived ... nobody really discovered it.

    Just as we in Sweden still maintain the myth that "we" all came in from the south, once the Ice melted (evidence has shown for centuries that the first ones arrived from the north -- what we now call the Sami people), most evidence seems to indicate that the first people arriving to the north of the Americas came from the north west via what's now called Alaska.



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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Lee Lofaso on Thursday, October 21, 2021 19:38:14
    long before Columbus took his maiden voyage -

    Somehow your history books have omitted the fact that Columbus never even set foot anywhere on mainland America. All he ever visited was a few islands that he thought was India -- now called the West Indies.



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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Bj÷rn Felten on Friday, October 22, 2021 07:52:00
    Björn Felten wrote to Ward Dossche <=-

    most evidence seems to indicate that the first people arriving
    to the north of the Americas came from the north west via what's now called Alaska.

    Yes, but back then, we defined "people" as "Christian people".



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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Bj÷rn Felten on Saturday, October 23, 2021 17:21:14
    Hello Bj”rn,

    long before Columbus took his maiden voyage -

    Somehow your history books have omitted the fact that Columbus never even set foot anywhere on mainland America. All he ever visited was a few islands that he thought was India -- now called the West Indies.

    You can't blame him for trying to get back home. To China.

    All we really know about him is that he was raised in Genoa -
    by a couple who were most likely not his real parents. Nobody
    really knows what he looked like, or even what race he was.

    --Lee

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    Drive One

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Kurt Weiske on Sunday, October 24, 2021 16:28:55
    Hello Kurt,

    most evidence seems to indicate that the first people arriving
    to the north of the Americas came from the north west via what's now
    called Alaska.

    Yes, but back then, we defined "people" as "Christian people".

    Moby Dick took care of those "Christian people" very well.
    Especially that Captain Ahab with the wooden leg. But the Innuit
    are a totally different people, and hardly Christian at all ...

    --Lee

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    Your Hole Is Our Goal

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Lee Lofaso on Wednesday, October 27, 2021 07:31:00
    Lee Lofaso wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    Moby Dick took care of those "Christian people" very well.
    Especially that Captain Ahab with the wooden leg. But the Innuit
    are a totally different people, and hardly Christian at all ...

    Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, atheist - we're all just in different places in our path to the one lord, Jesus Christ.

    --Steven Colbert


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Kurt Weiske on Thursday, October 28, 2021 22:09:16
    Hello Kurt,

    Moby Dick took care of those "Christian people" very well.
    Especially that Captain Ahab with the wooden leg. But the Innuit
    are a totally different people, and hardly Christian at all ...

    Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, atheist - we're all just in different places in our
    path to the one lord, Jesus Christ.

    --Steven Colbert

    Ashes to ashes, funk to funky
    We know Major Tom's a junkie.

    --David Bowie

    --
    Sleep With Someone New

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