• Noah's Flood

    From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to ALL on Friday, February 04, 2022 20:09:04
    Hello Everybody,

    What caused Noah's Flood?

    If it rained for 40 days and 40 nights, would the entire
    world really be flooded?

    And how long would it take for all that water to drain, so
    there would be dry land again?

    --Lee

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  • From Nil A@2:5015/46 to Lee Lofaso on Friday, February 04, 2022 23:57:26
    Hello, Lee!

    Friday February 04 2022 20:09, from Lee Lofaso -> ALL:

    What caused Noah's Flood?

    I haven't read the news that all other fido echoes have reduced to just one fidonews. Is it kinda, sorta offtopic in anyway, anybody? Cause for me it is.

    If it rained for 40 days and 40 nights, would the entire
    world really be flooded?

    Well, obviously, it's all about Jewish fairy tales.

    Best Regards, Nil
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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5075/128.130 to Lee Lofaso on Saturday, February 05, 2022 17:39:02
    Hi, Lee Lofaso!
    I read your message from 04.02.2022 22:09

    LL> What caused Noah's Flood?
    LL> If it rained for 40 days and 40 nights, would the entire
    LL> world really be flooded?
    LL> And how long would it take for all that water to drain, so
    LL> there would be dry land again?

    The better question is where did that water drained to after the flood?
    The best answer -- the water had returned to where it was taken. ;-)

    Bye, Lee!
    Alexander Koryagin
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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to alexander koryagin on Saturday, February 05, 2022 20:03:04
    The better question is where did that water drained to after the flood?
    The best answer -- the water had returned to where it was taken. ;-)

    Unlikely as it sounds to the critical reader, the story of Noah's Ark and the massive floods should not be discounted out of hand.

    Perhaps some things happenedm but in a different way.

    As many know I spent years and years of my life in Montana (although Sean Dennis claims I hate the USA) and something which I discovered there and learned about is "Glacial Lake Missoula".

    In short, towards the end of the last ice age a humongous chunk of ice blocked the outflow of what we now know as the Clark Fork river and a massive lake started forming which eventually had the size of Lake Erie and Lake Ontario combined which easily can be considered "seas". When, after filling, due to sheer magnitude of the built-up water pressure, the ice plugs collapsed, the Glacial Lake Missoula emptied in less thab a week ... in size this was like the Northsea ... It happened like 12.000 years ago. In excavations no human remains were found but native oral history mentions the event before scientific evidence became available, so it may have been observed by humans. And Glacial Lake Missoula was not unique.

    For more reading, here's an URL

    https://www.glaciallakemissoula.org/

    So, let's take the old testament of the bible ... perhaps there has indeed been a kind of a glacial lake as well somewhere near the middle east and people became enclosed on an island and had to built a large enough vessel to save themselves and their animals from drowning ...

    These were the heydays of the flat earth society and perhaps little did they know it was not the sea, covering the whole world, which was rising but only the water in a gigantic pre-historic lake.

    The rest could be the result of creative writing by the scribes whom penned the text ... Let's not just discount the story of a massive large-scale flood ... after all, the Glacial Lake Missoula filled like 40 times over a large span of time.

    And weird things of biblical nature have been reported and are believed as well, for example that Christ after his death did not ascend to heaven but took-off like a rocket and was injected into a ballistic trajectory taking him to North America with an ease that would make NASA and Elon Musk jealous ... at least that's what the Mormons say ...

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Nil A on Sunday, February 06, 2022 00:13:17
    Hello Nil,

    What caused Noah's Flood?

    I haven't read the news that all other fido echoes have reduced to just one
    fidonews. Is it kinda, sorta offtopic in anyway, anybody? Cause for me it is.

    The Fidonews is an anything goes kind of echo. That way, all topics
    are covered, with nothing being offtopic.

    If it rained for 40 days and 40 nights, would the entire
    world really be flooded?

    Well, obviously, it's all about Jewish fairy tales.

    What Jewish fairy tales? The events of a worldwide flood are
    embedded in stories from every culture on Earth, predating the
    time when there was a religion called Judaism. The Gilgamesh
    records this worldwide flood, as do other writings around the
    world.

    The story you are referring to is the 40 days and 40 nights
    story as being the cause of Noah's Flood. I think you and others
    would agree that such a rainstorm would not be enough to cause
    a worldwide flood in which there would be no land to stand on.

    Yet the stories in every culture say such a worldwide flood
    is a fact of our past. My question is can there be a scientific
    explanation for this? Is it possible for there to have been an
    actual worldwide flood with water covering the entire Earth?
    And if so, how could that have happened?

    --Lee

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Lee Lofaso on Sunday, February 06, 2022 10:35:04
    On 5/02/2022 05:09, Lee Lofaso : ALL wrote:

    What caused Noah's Flood?

    If it rained for 40 days and 40 nights, would the entire
    world really be flooded?

    And how long would it take for all that water to drain, so
    there would be dry land again?

    If it was a "world-wide" flood, where would the water drain to?

    --
    Regards
    David

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  • From Dennis Katsonis@3:633/384 to Lee Lofaso on Sunday, February 06, 2022 13:15:11
    Re: Noah's Flood
    By: Lee Lofaso to Nil A on Sun Feb 06 2022 12:13 am

    Hello Nil,

    What caused Noah's Flood?

    I haven't read the news that all other fido echoes have reduced to just
    one
    fidonews. Is it kinda, sorta offtopic in anyway, anybody? Cause for me it is.

    The Fidonews is an anything goes kind of echo. That way, all topics
    are covered, with nothing being offtopic.

    If it rained for 40 days and 40 nights, would the entire
    world really be flooded?

    Well, obviously, it's all about Jewish fairy tales.

    What Jewish fairy tales? The events of a worldwide flood are
    embedded in stories from every culture on Earth, predating the
    time when there was a religion called Judaism. The Gilgamesh
    records this worldwide flood, as do other writings around the
    world.

    The story you are referring to is the 40 days and 40 nights
    story as being the cause of Noah's Flood. I think you and others
    would agree that such a rainstorm would not be enough to cause
    a worldwide flood in which there would be no land to stand on.

    Yet the stories in every culture say such a worldwide flood
    is a fact of our past. My question is can there be a scientific
    explanation for this? Is it possible for there to have been an
    actual worldwide flood with water covering the entire Earth?
    And if so, how could that have happened?

    --Lee

    --
    Make 7-Up Yours

    Have you heard of the Black Sea Flood hypothesis? The Bosporous straight was a wall which seperated the (then much smaller)
    Black Sea from the mediterranean. It is hypothesised that that wall broke, and water from the Mediterranean flooded into the
    then smaller Black Sea to fill to to the current levels it is today.

    As there may have been settlements around then, they would have been quickly inundated over a period of days or weeks as the
    Black Sea filled and met the level of the Mediterranean.
    These people have have told stories of this, which became stories of the Great Flood.
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  • From Terry Roati@3:640/1321 to David Drummond on Sunday, February 06, 2022 12:37:30

    Maybe it evaporated :)

    Terry

    On Feb 06, 2022 10:35am, David Drummond wrote to Lee Lofaso:

    On 5/02/2022 05:09, Lee Lofaso : ALL wrote:

    What caused Noah's Flood?

    If it rained for 40 days and 40 nights, would the entire
    world really be flooded?

    And how long would it take for all that water to drain, so
    there would be dry land again?

    If it was a "world-wide" flood, where would the water drain to?

    --
    Regards
    David

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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5075/128.130 to Ward Dossche on Sunday, February 06, 2022 13:13:48
    Hi, Ward Dossche!
    I read your message from 05.02.2022 22:03

    ak>> The better question is where did that water drained to after the
    ak>> flood? The best answer -- the water had returned to where it was
    ak>> taken.

    WD> Unlikely as it sounds to the critical reader, the story of Noah's
    WD> Ark and the massive floods should not be discounted out of hand.
    WD> Perhaps some things happenedm but in a different way.
    WD> As many know I spent years and years of my life in Montana
    WD> (although Sean Dennis claims I hate the USA) and something which I
    WD> discovered there and learned about is "Glacial Lake Missoula".

    WD> In short, towards the end of the last ice age a humongous chunk of
    WD> ice blocked the outflow of what we now know as the Clark Fork river
    WD> and a massive lake started forming which eventually had the size of
    WD> Lake Erie and Lake Ontario combined which easily can be
    WD> considered "seas". When, after filling, due to sheer magnitude of
    WD> the built-up water pressure, the ice plugs collapsed, the Glacial <skipped>

    Yeah, I read about it.

    WD> Lake Missoula emptied in less thab a week... in size this was like
    WD> the Northsea... It happened like 12.000 years ago. In excavations
    WD> no human remains were found but native oral history mentions the
    WD> event before scientific evidence became available, so it may have
    WD> been observed by humans. And Glacial Lake Missoula was not unique.
    WD> For more reading, here's an URL
    WD> https://www.glaciallakemissoula.org/
    WD> So, let's take the old testament of the bible... perhaps there has
    WD> indeed been a kind of a glacial lake as well somewhere near the
    WD> middle east and people became enclosed on an island and had to
    WD> built a large enough vessel to save themselves and their animals
    WD> from drowning...

    It sounds probable, although such tales are known around the world.
    Actually, something extra ordinary happened 12-14 thousand years ago,
    and the event changed the Earth completely. Enough to say about mammoths
    who happily had lived for tens million of years and suddenly died just a second ago, according the historical scale.

    WD> These were the heydays of the flat earth society and perhaps little
    WD> did they know it was not the sea, covering the whole world, which
    WD> was rising but only the water in a gigantic pre-historic lake.

    WD> The rest could be the result of creative writing by the scribes
    WD> whom penned the text... Let's not just discount the story of a
    WD> massive large-scale flood... after all, the Glacial Lake Missoula
    WD> filled like 40 times over a large span of time.

    WD> And weird things of biblical nature have been reported and are
    WD> believed as well, for example that Christ after his death did not
    WD> ascend to heaven but took-off like a rocket and was injected into a
    WD> ballistic trajectory taking him to North America with an ease that
    WD> would make NASA and Elon Musk jealous... at least that's what the
    WD> Mormons say...

    The Christ's take-off was IMHO the least of the miracles from the Bible.

    Bye, Ward!
    Alexander Koryagin
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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to David Drummond on Sunday, February 06, 2022 12:31:47
    If it was a "world-wide" flood, where would the water drain to?

    You have to remember, that the Christian bible is just a collection of written-down memories by the Jews that were released from the Babylonian captivity in the 6th century BC.

    A collection of what they remembered from the Sumerian history books. And since they couldn't read the cuneiform tablets they had to rely on what they heard about it. And they loved the idea that they could tweak the stories they were told to fit into their monotheistic ideas.

    The "Flood" was actually the flooding of the Mesopotamia after the outlet of melt-water from the enormous basin where Canada now is, into the ocean, that raised the ocean level by an estimated 50-100 m circa 10k years ago. And Mesopotamia, the cradle of civilisation located around Euphrates and Tigris (modern day Iraq), was totally drowned.

    Despite frantic attempts by Christian fanatics to prevent us from finding, saving, and worst of all translating, those Sumerian history books, many enough scientist managed do do it anyway. What those heroes had to withstand is another chapter, but includes accusations of heresy and worse.

    So now we know. Yeah, at least well those who trust science more than we trust Tucker Carlson...



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