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  • Without this man, probably no war in Ukraine

    From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to All on Monday, March 14, 2022 01:11:55
    Yes, Mad Vlad is personally responsible for the disgusting terror in the Ukraine, but if it hadn't been for Paul Manafort, it's highly unlikely that any of the hardships that the Ukrainian people have been forced to endure ever since the rigged elections that put Mad Vlad's corrupt puppet Yanukovych in power. First in 2004 and then again in 2010.

    Without Manafort's actions, Ukraine would most likely have been a member of NATO, as well as EU, many years ago, and would not be the second poorest country in Europe, but a wealthy, EU-country with it's borders intact -- including Crimea and Donbas.

    https://youtu.be/FxgBuhMBXSA

    If you've never followed a Youtube link before, I strongly urge you to make an exception and follow the above one.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Monday, March 14, 2022 14:14:11
    Hello Bj”rn,

    Yes, Mad Vlad is personally responsible for the disgusting terror in the Ukraine, but if it hadn't been for Paul Manafort, it's highly unlikely that
    any of the hardships that the Ukrainian people have been forced to endure ever since the rigged elections that put Mad Vlad's corrupt puppet Yanukovych in power. First in 2004 and then again in 2010.

    And then came the popular uprising that sent Yanukovych to Moscow ...

    Without Manafort's actions,

    Paul Manafort was a nobody prior to the days when Donald Trump was
    POTUS. Or rather, just before Donald Trump became POTUS, as Trump did
    briefly hire him during his campaign for the Republican nomination.

    Ukraine would most likely have been a member of NATO,

    President Barack Obama did not want to encourage Ukraine to apply
    for membership in NATO. Neither did President Donald Trump.

    as well as EU,

    The Netherlands continues to oppose Ukraine's wish to join the EU.

    many years ago,

    Ukraine has applied for membership in the EU. It is still waiting
    for the matter to be voted on by EU member states. Ukraine will
    probably also apply for membership in NATO. Just like Kosovo did
    in February.

    and would not be the second poorest country in Europe, but a wealthy, EU-country with it's borders intact -- including Crimea and Donbas.

    Then what is keeping Europe (and NATO) from keeping Ukraine out?

    Certainly Mad Vlad does not have a veto on what Europe, the USA,
    and NATO does. Or does he?

    https://youtu.be/FxgBuhMBXSA

    If you've never followed a Youtube link before, I strongly urge you to make
    an exception and follow the above one.

    There is also Tulsi Gabbard.
    Main spokesperson for Mad Vlad in the USA.
    Aside from Donald Trump.

    --Lee

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