Hello All.

I would like to nominate Dale Barnes. If he's already been nominated I'll second it.

Best regards,
Marc Lewis
R19C

--- timEd/2 1.10.y2k+
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Marc,

I would like to nominate Dale Barnes. If he's already been nominated
I'll second it.

Seconding is not a requirement.

\%/@rd

--- DB4 - Dec.21 2020
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Re: Nomination
By: Marc Lewis to All on Tue Feb 16 2021 12:49 pm

I would like to nominate Dale Barnes. If he's already been nominated I'll second it.

An excellent choice. I hope he will accept.

Ttyl :-),
Al

... Dew knot trussed yore spell chequer two fined awl mistakes!
--- SBBSecho 3.12-Linux
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Hello Ward.

<On 17Feb2021 01:02 Ward Dossche (2:292/854) wrote a message to Marc Lewis regarding Re: Nomination >

Marc,

I would like to nominate Dale Barnes. If he's already been nominated
I'll second it.

Seconding is not a requirement.

Thanks, Ward.

Best regards,
Marc

--- timEd/2 1.10.y2k+
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Hello Marc!

16 Feb 21 12:49, you wrote to all:

I would like to nominate Dale Barnes. If he's already been nominated
I'll second it.

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: Phoenix BBS * phoenix.bnbbbs.net (1:320/219)

Andrew,

I would like to nominate Dale Barnes. If he's already been

nominated

I'll second it.

ACK.

What are you acknowledging?

Dale has't accepted (yet).

\%/@rd

--- DB4 - Dec.21 2020
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Hello Ward!

18 Feb 21 02:53, you wrote to me:

What are you acknowledging?

Dale has't accepted (yet).

His nomination. I'm well aware that he hasn't accepted yet. Hence, the notation to that effect in the status I posted earlier.

Andrew

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Hello Marc!

16 Feb 21 12:49, you wrote to all:

I would like to nominate Dale Barnes. If he's already been nominated
I'll second it.

ACK.

ACK
YES
Accept
Thank you?

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

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--- InterEcho 1.21
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I would like to nominate Dale Barnes. If he's already

beenAL> nominated

I'll second it.

ACK.

What are you acknowledging?

Dale has't accepted (yet).

I did, he just knew the answer before the question was asked.... :P


--- InterEcho 1.21
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Hello Dale!

19 Feb 21 20:47, you wrote to me:

I would like to nominate Dale Barnes. If he's already been

nominated

I'll second it.

ACK.

ACK
YES
Accept
Thank you?

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

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Hello Everyone,

I would like nominate Sean Dennis, 1:18/200 for FTSC membership.


Thanks,
Jay Harris, RC12

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Hello Jay!

05 Feb 22 22:36, you wrote to all:

I would like nominate Sean Dennis, 1:18/200 for FTSC membership.

Thanks,
Jay Harris, RC12

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

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Jay,

I would like nominate Sean Dennis, 1:18/200 for FTSC membership.

There's no need to answer this but I'd love to hear about your reasoning of why you think this nomination is justified by past performance beyond "because I can" ...

\%/@rd

--- DB4 - Feb 12 2022
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Hello Ward,

15 Feb 22 16:41, you wrote to Jay Harris:

There's no need to answer this but I'd love to hear about your
reasoning of why you think this nomination is justified by past performance beyond "because I can" ...

... says the "invited guest" who has never been elected to the FTSC by his peers and has nothing but a history of insults and slander dealing with anyone he doesn't like.

Your FTN skills end at being an overglorified nodelist clerk.

So, Mr. Invited Guest, what FTN software have YOU written that justifies your being privy to the FTSC inner workings?

There's no need to answer this either because I already know the answer like everyone else: you're a old Fidonet "has-been" that feels you have to justify your existance in Fidonet by using pedantic histrionics for attention because you could be easily "removed" from your technical position by the rest of us simply rerouting around you and your Z2C position by using methods you yourself helped "develop".

You want to ask others for justification? It's time for you to provide the same thing.

-- Sean

... Part of being old is knowing what to do with your wisdom.
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Re: Nomination
By: Sean Dennis to Ward Dossche on Tue Feb 15 2022 11:35 am

Hello Ward,

15 Feb 22 16:41, you wrote to Jay Harris:

There's no need to answer this but I'd love to hear about your reasoning of why you think this nomination is justified by past performance beyond "because I can" ...

... says the "invited guest" who has never been elected to the FTSC by his peers and has nothing but a history of insults and slander dealing with anyo he doesn't like.

Your FTN skills end at being an overglorified nodelist clerk.

So, Mr. Invited Guest, what FTN software have YOU written that justifies you being privy to the FTSC inner workings?

There's no need to answer this either because I already know the answer like everyone else: you're a old Fidonet "has-been" that feels you have to justif your existance in Fidonet by using pedantic histrionics for attention becaus you could be easily "removed" from your technical position by the rest of us simply rerouting around you and your Z2C position by using methods you yourself helped "develop".

You want to ask others for justification? It's time for you to provide the same thing.

-- Sean

... Part of being old is knowing what to do with your wisdom.

Sean, all current ZCs are invited guests, and for good reason. Been that way for quite some time.

xxcarol
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Carol,

Sean, all current ZCs are invited guests, and for good reason. Been that way for quite some time.

That is not completely true, but also not completely untrue .....

Waaay waaay back when animals still could speak I mentioned to an FTSC-chair that they could decide upon standards as much as they wanted but without ZC-backing it did amount to very little. This was around that time when a particular (I think German) guy wanted to push something through and did not succeed. So he got himself elected in the FTSC, pushed his thing through and left Fidonet with some choicy words...

To prevent things like that from happening again I requested access to the private deliberations of the FTSC ... and got it ... because I requested it ... not because it was granted out of vision.

I think Scott was the chairman around that time ...

\%/@rd

--- DB4 - 20220222
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Waaay waaay back when animals still could speak [...]

Uhmm...'moo'? Who you callin' an animal, ya jack-ass? (o_O)

(o_-)

McDoob
SysOp, PiBBS
pibbs.sytes.net

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: PiBBS (1:229/110)

Re: Re: Nomination
By: Ward Dossche to Carol Shenkenberger on Mon Mar 14 2022 10:54 am

Carol,

Sean, all current ZCs are invited guests, and for good reason. Been tha way for quite some time.

That is not completely true, but also not completely untrue .....

Waaay waaay back when animals still could speak I mentioned to an FTSC-chair that they could decide upon standards as much as they wanted but without ZC-backing it did amount to very little. This was around that time when a particular (I think German) guy wanted to push something through and did not succeed. So he got himself elected in the FTSC, pushed his thing through and left Fidonet with some choicy words...

To prevent things like that from happening again I requested access to the private deliberations of the FTSC ... and got it ... because I requested it not because it was granted out of vision.

I think Scott was the chairman around that time ...

\%/@rd

Yes, Scott Little, Z3 and later Z3C and stepped down then as chair.

Memory dims of those 20 years or so ago times.

xxcarol
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On 2022 Mar 14 10:54:06, you wrote to Carol Shenkenberger:

I think Scott was the chairman around that time ...

ZCs were invited guests in the private FTSC areas before Scott Little became the FTSC chairman ;)

)\/(ark

"The soul of a small kitten in the body of a mighty dragon. Look on my majesty, ye mighty, and despair! Or bring me catnip. Your choice. Oooh, a shiny thing!"
... Since my last report, this person has reached rock-bottom and has started to
---
* Origin: (1:3634/12.73)

I think Scott was the chairman around that time ...

ZCs were invited guests in the private FTSC areas before Scott Little became the FTSC chairman ;)

My dear man, I was the first one in ... accepted upon my own argumentation. Please stop rewriting Fido-history as if someone one day saw the light and had this grand idea to invite ZCs.

It was necesaary to give the FTSC the credibility it needed ...

\%/@rd

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I would like to nominate Andrew Leary, node 1:320/219, for another
term.

Michael Luko
RC13

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Hello Michael!

02 Feb 23 12:22, you wrote to all:

I would like to nominate Andrew Leary, node 1:320/219, for
another term.

Michael Luko
RC13

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20220504
* Origin: From the Desk of the FTSC Administrator (1:320/219)

Hello Michael!

02 Feb 23 12:22, you wrote to all:

I would like to nominate Andrew Leary, node 1:320/219, for
another term.

Accepted.

Thank you,

Andrew

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20220504
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I would like to nominate Carol Shenkenberger, Node 1:275/100, for
another Term.

Michael Luko
RC13

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Hello Michael!

05 Feb 23 18:05, you wrote to all:

I would like to nominate Carol Shenkenberger, Node 1:275/100, for another Term.

Michael Luko
RC13

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20220504
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Re: Nomination
By: Michael Luko to All on Sun Feb 05 2023 06:05 pm

I would like to nominate Carol Shenkenberger, Node 1:275/100, for another Term.

Michael Luko
RC13

Accepted and thank you.

xxcarol
1:275/100, 1:275/1000 1:275/0

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Ciao,

I would like to nominate Nick Andre 1:229/426 for another term as a standing member in the upcoming FTSC-election.

Many thanks.

Ciao.
Fabio. :)
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Hello Fabio!

14 Feb 23 06:58, you wrote to all:

I would like to nominate Nick Andre 1:229/426 for another term as a standing member in the upcoming FTSC-election.

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

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* Origin: From the Desk of the FTSC Administrator (1:320/219)

I nominate Maurice Kinal, 1:153/7001 and mark lewis, 1:3634/12 for
another term on the FTSC.

Michael Luko
RC13

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Hey Michael!

I nominate Maurice Kinal, 1:153/7001

Accepted.

Life is good,
Maurice

... Ne sceall se for horse murnan, se þe wile heort ofærnan.
He who wants to catch a hart must not worry about his horse.
--- GNU bash, version 5.2.15(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
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Hello Michael!

19 Feb 23 11:03, you wrote to all:

I nominate Maurice Kinal, 1:153/7001 and mark lewis, 1:3634/12
for another term on the FTSC.

Michael Luko
RC13

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20220504
* Origin: From the Desk of the FTSC Administrator (1:320/219)

Hello Maurice!

19 Feb 23 17:08, you wrote to Michael Luko:

I nominate Maurice Kinal, 1:153/7001

Accepted.

ACK.

Andrew
FTSC Election Coordinator

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20220504
* Origin: From the Desk of the FTSC Administrator (1:320/219)

I would like to nominate Deon George (3:633/509) for another term.


Jay
RC12

... The trouble with facts is that there are so many of them
--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240309
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Re: Nomination
By: Jay Harris to All on Sat Feb 01 2025 10:34 pm

Howdy,

I would like to nominate Deon George (3:633/509) for another term.

Thanks Jay, I accept the nomination.


...ëîåï
--- SBBSecho 3.23-Linux
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Hello All,

I would like to nominate Andrew Leary (1:320/219) for another term.

Best regards,
Niels
RC29

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Hello Niels!

02 Feb 25 11:38, you wrote to all:

I would like to nominate Andrew Leary (1:320/219) for another term.

Thank you; I accept the nomination.

Andrew

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240209
* Origin: From the Desk of the FTSC Administrator (1:320/219)

Hi,

I also would like to nominate Andrew Leary (1:320/219).

Greetings,
Rudi

--- D'Bridge 4
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Hello,

I'd like to nominate Tim Schattkowsky, 2:2/29

Thank you. :)

Ciao.
Fabio.
--- AfterShock/Android 1.6.6
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Hello everybody!

I hereby nominate Jason Bock (1:267/310) for a position as a Standing Member of the FTSC.

Thank you,

Andrew Leary
RC16

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240209
* Origin: From the Desk of the New England Janitor (1:320/219)

On <08 Feb, 05:44>, Andrew Leary wrote to All :

Hello everybody!

I hereby nominate Jason Bock (1:267/310) for a position as a Standing Member
of the FTSC.

Thank you,

Andrew Leary
RC16

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240209
* Origin: From the Desk of the New England Janitor (1:320/219)

Thank you for the nomination. I accept the nomination.

Thank you again,

Jason

--- ProBoard v2.32
* Origin: ProBoard WHQ - SiliconUnderground - siliconu.com (1:267/310)

Andrew wrote (2025-02-08):

Hello everybody!

I hereby nominate Jason Bock (1:267/310) for a position as a Standing Member of the FTSC.

Thank you,

Thanks but no thanks. He failed the basic competency test:

poll 1:267/310
$ -d 1:267/310@fidonet
+ 19:19 [6769] call to 1:267/310@fidonet
+ 19:19 [6769] outgoing session
- 19:19 [6769] SYS SiliconUnderground - ProBoard / FuNet WHQ
- 19:19 [6769] ZYZ Jason Bock
- 19:19 [6769] LOC Rochester, NY
- 19:19 [6769] NDL CM,IBN
- 19:19 [6769] TIME 2025/02/08 13:19:08 -5:00
- 19:19 [6769] VER Internet Rex 2.31 Win32 (binkp/1.1)
+ 19:19 [6769] addr: 1:267/310@fidonet.org (n/a or busy)
+ 19:19 [6769] addr: 1:1/101@fidonet.org (n/a or busy)
+ 19:19 [6769] addr: 1:267/311@fidonet.org (n/a or busy)
[....]
? 19:19 [6769] called 1:267/310@fidonet, but remote has no such AKA
+ 19:19 [6769] done (to 1:267/310@fidonet, failed, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))

But hey, at least you have just enough candidates for more years of nothing.

---
* Origin: No REPLY kludge - no reply (2:280/464.47)

Oli wrote to Andrew Leary <=-

I hereby nominate Jason Bock (1:267/310) for a position as a

Standing

Member of the FTSC.

Thank you,

Thanks but no thanks. He failed the basic competency test:

poll 1:267/310
$ -d 1:267/310@fidonet
+ 19:19 [6769] call to 1:267/310@fidonet
+ 19:19 [6769] outgoing session
- 19:19 [6769] SYS SiliconUnderground - ProBoard / FuNet WHQ
- 19:19 [6769] ZYZ Jason Bock
- 19:19 [6769] LOC Rochester, NY
- 19:19 [6769] NDL CM,IBN
- 19:19 [6769] TIME 2025/02/08 13:19:08 -5:00
- 19:19 [6769] VER Internet Rex 2.31 Win32 (binkp/1.1)
+ 19:19 [6769] addr: 1:267/310@fidonet.org (n/a or busy)
+ 19:19 [6769] addr: 1:1/101@fidonet.org (n/a or busy)
+ 19:19 [6769] addr: 1:267/311@fidonet.org (n/a or busy)
[....]
? 19:19 [6769] called 1:267/310@fidonet, but remote has no such AKA
+ 19:19 [6769] done (to 1:267/310@fidonet, failed, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))

But hey, at least you have just enough candidates for more years of nothing.

I have domain fido alias-for fidonet
domain fidorus alias-for fidonet
domain fido7 alias-for fidonet
domain fidonet.org alias-for fidonet domain fidonet.net alias-for fidonet i
in my binkd config file and this works. He is doing nothing wrong and in fact maybe more correct

Sean


... BBBS: https://binkd.rima.ie

--- BBBS/LiR v4.10 Toy-7
* Origin: There Can Only Be 1 (2:263/1)

Oli wrote to Andrew Leary <=-

I hereby nominate Jason Bock (1:267/310) for a position as a Standing Member of the FTSC.

Thanks but no thanks. He failed the basic competency test:

poll 1:267/310
$ -d 1:267/310@fidonet
+ 19:19 [6769] call to 1:267/310@fidonet
+ 19:19 [6769] outgoing session
- 19:19 [6769] SYS SiliconUnderground - ProBoard / FuNet WHQ
- 19:19 [6769] ZYZ Jason Bock
- 19:19 [6769] LOC Rochester, NY
- 19:19 [6769] NDL CM,IBN
- 19:19 [6769] TIME 2025/02/08 13:19:08 -5:00
- 19:19 [6769] VER Internet Rex 2.31 Win32 (binkp/1.1)
+ 19:19 [6769] addr: 1:267/310@fidonet.org (n/a or busy)
+ 19:19 [6769] addr: 1:1/101@fidonet.org (n/a or busy)
+ 19:19 [6769] addr: 1:267/311@fidonet.org (n/a or busy)
[....]
? 19:19 [6769] called 1:267/310@fidonet, but remote has no such AKA
+ 19:19 [6769] done (to 1:267/310@fidonet, failed, S/R: 0/0 (0/0
bytes))

Works for me:

BinkIT/2.41 invoked with options: -l 1:267/310
Attempting poll for node 1:267/310@fidonet
JSBinkP/4 callout to 1:267/310@fidonet started
Connecting to 1:267/310@fidonet at siliconu.com:24554
Peer version: Internet Rex 2.31 Win32
Peer ended their VER with " (binkp/1.1)" instead of the required " binkp/1.1", but we're assuming binkp 1.1 anyway
Authentication successful:
/sbbs/exec/binkit.js executed in 2.00 seconds

Maybe it's you that is mis-configured.



... I'd love to help you out. Which way did you come in?
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//Hello Fabio,//

on *05.02.25* at *18:01:49* You wrote in Area *FTSC_PUBLIC*
to *All* about *"Nomination"*.

Hello,

I'd like to nominate Tim Schattkowsky, 2:2/29

Thank you. I accept.

Regards,
Tim

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Re: Re: Nomination
By: Sean Rima to Oli on Sat Feb 08 2025 07:29 pm

Howdy,

+ 19:19 [6769] addr: 1:267/310@fidonet.org (n/a or busy)

in my binkd config file and this works. He is doing nothing wrong and in fact maybe more correct

More correct?

http://ftsc.org/docs/frl-1028.002


...ëîåï
--- SBBSecho 3.23-Linux
* Origin: I'm playing with ANSI+videotex - wanna play too? (3:633/509)

Hello deon!

09 Feb 25 16:14, you wrote to Sean Rima:

+ 19:19 [6769] addr: 1:267/310@fidonet.org (n/a or busy)

in my binkd config file and this works. He is doing nothing wrong
and in fact maybe more correct

More correct?

http://ftsc.org/docs/frl-1028.002

You are correct that this document indicates the domain part of an FTN address cannot exceed 8 characters, or contain characters other than lowercase letters, digits, or the three "safe" characters (- _ ~). This would seem to preclude using the extensions, as the period/dot character (.) is not permitted.

However, this document was a FidoNet Standards Proposal that was not promoted and published as a FidoNet Technical Standard. It is preserved in the FTSC reference library for information purposes only. While it is recommended to comply with the requirements set forth in this document, it is NOT required.

BinkD itself has long had functionality to work around problems caused by nodes specifying domain names improperly.

Andrew

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20240209
* Origin: From the Desk of the FTSC Administrator (1:320/219)

deon wrote to Sean Rima <=-

Re: Re: Nomination
By: Sean Rima to Oli on Sat Feb 08 2025 07:29 pm

Howdy,

+ 19:19 [6769] addr: 1:267/310@fidonet.org (n/a or busy)

in my binkd config file and this works. He is doing nothing wrong and
in
fact maybe more correct

More correct?

http://ftsc.org/docs/frl-1028.002

As Andrew beat me to it, but this is not a standard.

Sean

... A woman drove me to drink, and I never had the courtesy to thank her.

--- BBBS/LiR v4.10 Toy-7
* Origin: TCOB1: https/binkd/telnet binkd.rima.ie (2:263/1)

Hi Sean,

+ 19:19 [6769] addr: 1:267/310@fidonet.org (n/a or busy)

in my binkd config file and this works. He is doing nothing wrong
and in fact maybe more correct

More correct?
http://ftsc.org/docs/frl-1028.002

As Andrew beat me to it, but this is not a standard.

It doesn't matter if it's a standard. The *FTN* domain for FidoNet is "fidonet". There is no more correct or less correct way. It's binary. You use the correct FTN domain or don't.

Even binkd.cfg explains it:

# Aliases to support known *DNS* domain zones
# (some people mix up the terms "FTN domain" and "DNS internet domain")
domain fidonet.org alias-for fidonet
domain fidonet.net alias-for fidonet


* Origin: kakistocracy (2:280/464.47)

On <09 Feb, 10:40>, Sean Rima wrote to deon :

deon wrote to Sean Rima <=-

Re: Re: Nomination
By: Sean Rima to Oli on Sat Feb 08 2025 07:29 pm

Howdy,

+ 19:19 [6769] addr: 1:267/310@fidonet.org (n/a or busy)

in my binkd config file and this works. He is doing nothing wrong and
in
fact maybe more correct

More correct?

http://ftsc.org/docs/frl-1028.002

As Andrew beat me to it, but this is not a standard.

Sean

... A woman drove me to drink, and I never had the courtesy to thank her.

--- BBBS/LiR v4.10 Toy-7
* Origin: TCOB1: https/binkd/telnet binkd.rima.ie (2:263/1)

Hello,

I changed the domain to make it align with values and morals.

Thank you,

Jason Bock

--- ProBoard v2.32
* Origin: ProBoard WHQ - SiliconUnderground - siliconu.com (1:267/310)

Hello Jason,

On Sunday February 09 2025 11:23, you wrote to Sean Rima:

@PID: ProBoard 2.32 J
@TID: FastEcho 1.46 43281
On <09 Feb, 10:40>, Sean Rima wrote to deon :

No MSGID
No REPLY
No TZUTC
No CHRS

I changed the domain to make it align with values and morals.

Thank you.


Cheers, Michiel

--- GoldED+/W32-MSVC 1.1.5-b20170303
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Re: Nomination
By: Andrew Leary to deon on Sun Feb 09 2025 01:10 am

Howdy,

BinkD itself has long had functionality to work around problems caused by nodes specifying domain names improperly.

And hence why I thought the original comment "more correct", isnt really "more correct".


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MvdV> Hello Jason,
MvdV>
MvdV> On Sunday February 09 2025 11:23, you wrote to Sean Rima:
MvdV>
MvdV> JB> @PID: ProBoard 2.32 J
MvdV> JB> @TID: FastEcho 1.46 43281
MvdV> JB> On <09 Feb, 10:40>, Sean Rima wrote to deon :
MvdV>
MvdV> No MSGID
MvdV> No REPLY
MvdV> No TZUTC
MvdV> No CHRS
MvdV>
The software is rom the 90's. I am actually working on updating the message system with the correct standards. ;)

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Jason,

MvdV> No MSGID
MvdV> No REPLY
MvdV> No TZUTC
MvdV> No CHRS

The software is rom the 90's. I am actually working on updating the message system with the correct standards. ;)

One man's standard is another man's error.

Are all these covered by standards?

\%/@rd

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Hej Ward!

One man's standard is another man's error.

Are all these covered by standards?

Two of them are covered by corrupted standards; the TZUTC and the CHRS kludges. The TZUTC kludge would require very little to make it compatible with timezone offsets while the CHRS kludge is almost totally a joke as far as standards go.

Het leven is goed,
Maurice

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Jason,

MvdV> No MSGID
MvdV> No REPLY
MvdV> No TZUTC
MvdV> No CHRS

The software is rom the 90's. I am actually working on updating the message system with the correct standards. ;)

One man's standard is another man's error.

Are all these covered by standards?

\%/@rd

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Ward,

I do not think ProBoard followed any standards as there are a ton of proprietary libraries to work around different tasks. IT is somewhat clean code until you get into the libraries.

I am working on it. ;)

-Jason

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09 Feb 2025 23:20, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

MvdV>> No MSGID
MvdV>> No REPLY
MvdV>> No TZUTC
MvdV>> No CHRS
MvdV>>

The software is rom the 90's. I am actually working on updating the message system with the correct standards. ;)

Nice. Good luck! ;-)

I suggest you start with supporting MSGID/REPLY (FTS-0009), as they are the most important kludges, and leave the others for later.

Carlos

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Hello Ward!

10 Feb 25 21:23, you wrote to Jason Bock:

MvdV> No MSGID
MvdV> No REPLY
MvdV> No TZUTC
MvdV> No CHRS

The software is rom the 90's. I am actually working on updating
the message system with the correct standards. ;)

One man's standard is another man's error.

Are all these covered by standards?

MSGID and REPLY are defined in FTS-9 (http://ftsc.org/docs/fts-0009.001)
TZUTC is defined in FTS-4008 (http://ftsc.org/docs/fts-4008.002)
CHRS is defined in FTS-5003 (http://ftsc.org/docs/fts-5003.001)

So yes, all of the mentioned control paragraphs are covered by published FidoNet Technical Standards.

Andrew

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Hello Maurice!

10 Feb 25 21:20, you wrote to Ward Dossche:

Two of them are covered by corrupted standards; the TZUTC and the CHRS kludges. The TZUTC kludge would require very little to make it
compatible with timezone offsets while the CHRS kludge is almost
totally a joke as far as standards go.

Keep in mind that FidoNet Technical Standards cover current practice in FidoNet. The FTSC does not have the power to revise standards and compel software authors to comply with such revisions. In many cases, software used in FidoNet is abandoned by its authors, source code is lost, or other circumstances that preclude changes being made.

Regards,

Andrew

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09 Feb 2025 23:20, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

MvdV>> No MSGID
MvdV>> No REPLY
MvdV>> No TZUTC
MvdV>> No CHRS
MvdV>>

The software is rom the 90's. I am actually working on updating the message system with the correct standards. ;)

Nice. Good luck! ;-)

I suggest you start with supporting MSGID/REPLY (FTS-0009), as they are the most important kludges, and leave the others for later.

Carlos

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Carlos,

I agree.

Thank you,

Jason

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Hey Andrew!

Keep in mind that FidoNet Technical Standards cover current
practice in FidoNet.

No they don't. The current usage of the packed MSG format is not reflected by any currently published standard. It hasn't for decades now.

Life is good,
Maurice

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