• Golded & Synchronet E-Mail

    From Rick V@1:154/110 to All on Friday, April 18, 2025 11:22:48
    Hello All.

    I've go GoldEd and Synchronet running great on the message bases, except on the E-Mail side. Is there a way to configure Golded to read the E-mail under SBBS?

    Thanks,
    Rick V


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  • From Nick Boel@1:154/700 to Rick V on Friday, April 18, 2025 18:07:56
    Hey Rick!

    On Fri, Apr 18 2025 11:22:48 -0500, you wrote:

    I've go GoldEd and Synchronet running great on the message bases,
    except on the E-Mail side. Is there a way to configure Golded to
    read the E-mail under SBBS?

    Yes sir. Use the AREADEF keyword to point directly to mail.shd in your data directory.

    While reading it definitely works, I'm still in the process of testing writing to it, I just haven't gotten to it recently. It's been a busy week recertifying and going to safety meetings. :/

    Setting it up as a netmail area in Golded didn't seem to work right, so I'm wondering if you just set it up as 'local' and let Synchronet do what it needs to do with the message.

    If you give it a go, let me know how it goes..

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Rick V@1:154/110 to Nick Boel on Saturday, April 19, 2025 06:35:30
    Re: Re: Golded & Synchronet E-Mail
    By: Nick Boel to Rick V on Fri Apr 18 2025 18:07:56

    Yes sir. Use the AREADEF keyword to point directly to mail.shd in your data directory.

    While reading it definitely works, I'm still in the process of testing writing to it, I just haven't gotten to it recently. It's been a busy week recertifying and going to safety meetings. :/

    Setting it up as a netmail area in Golded didn't seem to work right, so I'm wondering if you just set it up as 'local' and let Synchronet do what it needs to do with the message.

    Do you know what messagebase format the .shd file are? I've tried JAM and OPUS, but no luck reading.

    Rick V
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  • From Nick Boel@1:154/700 to All on Saturday, April 19, 2025 08:15:47
    Hey Rick!

    On Sat, Apr 19 2025 06:35:30 -0500, you wrote:

    Do you know what messagebase format the .shd file are? I've tried
    JAM and OPUS, but no luck reading.

    Not sure if it's documented or not, but the format you use is "SMB". So here I'm currently using:

    areadef SYNCMAIL "Synchronet Mail" <group> local SMB /path/to/sbbs/data/mail

    If you're currently using mail.ini, then "<group>" can probably just be 0 (or make a new group for it so it can be displayed first using the "AREALISTSORT" keyword). I'm not using mail.ini, but instead am including a file using the "AREADEF" keyword for every area. I have multiple groups configured for each network so I can display them in the order I want them.

    As I said before, I've tried "net" instead of local, and writing to that area wasn't working properly. You can try "local" or "echo" and see if either of them work for writing to it, as I haven't tested those thoroughly yet. I was hoping "local" might work, because it doesn't add anything extra to the message that could confuse Synchronet, and Synchronet itself should know that that is an email/netmail area already, so would/should know how to handle the message without Golded's help or additions.

    I just don't know the answer to that yet. If none of those options work, then it may have to be filed as a bug, needing more attention. ;)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Nick Boel on Saturday, April 19, 2025 23:03:08
    Hello, Nick Boel.
    On 19/04/2025 14.15 you wrote:

    Hey Rick! On Sat, Apr 19 2025 06:35:30 -0500, you
    wrote:
    Do you know what messagebase format the .shd
    file are? I've tried JAM and OPUS, but no luck
    reading.
    Not sure if it's documented or not, but the
    format you use is "SMB". So here I'm currently
    using: areadef SYNCMAIL "Synchronet Mail" <group>
    local SMB /path/to/sbbs/data/mail If you're
    currently using mail.ini, then "<group>" can
    probably just be 0 (or make a new group for it so
    it can be displayed first using the
    "AREALISTSORT" keyword). I'm not using mail.ini,
    but instead am including a file using the
    "AREADEF" keyword for every area. I have multiple
    groups configured for each network so I can
    display them in the order I want them. As I said
    before, I've tried "net" instead of local, and
    writing to that area wasn't working properly. You
    can try "local" or "echo" and see if either of
    them work for writing to it, as I haven't tested
    those thoroughly yet. I was hoping "local" might
    work, because it doesn't add anything extra to
    the message that could confuse Synchronet, and
    Synchronet itself should know that that is an
    email/netmail area already, so would/should know
    how to handle the message without Golded's help
    or additions. I just don't know the answer to
    that yet. If none of those options work, then it
    may have to be filed as a bug, needing more
    attention. ;)

    I don't know synchronet, but I'd test the keyword AREAISEMAIL in GoldED.


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  • From Nick Boel@1:154/700 to All on Saturday, April 19, 2025 21:47:12
    Hey Tommi!

    On Sat, Apr 19 2025 15:03:08 -0500, you wrote:

    I don't know synchronet, but I'd test the keyword AREAISEMAIL in GoldED.

    Thanks for the heads up. I may give that a shot if just setting the area to local doesn't work (so far I haven't had any issue, but that is only testing local BBS email so far).

    I'm going to assume beforehand, that it might cause the same issues I saw when setting this area as a netmail area.. but it may be worth a try.

    This "mail" area for Synchronet covers BBS email, actual email, and FTN netmail.. all in one area. I have a feeling the best option is to not mess with it as far as external Golded settings/injections are concerned, and leave it up to Synchronet to know what to do with any messages written there.

    We'll see.

    Regards,
    Nick

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