• Re: Mint 20 "Ulyana"

    From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, August 11, 2020 12:53:36
    Hello Aaron!

    20 Jul 2020 22:25, Aaron Thomas wrote to Alan Ianson:

    Yep, that's true. On Ubuntu you may not even need to "modprobe sg", it
    migh be smart enough to just do that.

    ...

    Thanks for that tip. It could happen again in the future, but I'm
    gonna stick with Ubuntu.

    ...

    At first I thought I'd try Debian. Isn't that an ancestor of Ubuntu?

    its reverse, ubuntu is forked from debian

    But I chose Ubuntu because it seems to be the choice of many people, including Dreamhost.

    62 millions wordpress users ignore security in wordpress


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/5.8.0-gentoo-r1-x86_64 (x86_64))
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Benny Pedersen on Tuesday, August 11, 2020 16:15:37
    But I chose Ubuntu because it seems to be the choice of many people, including Dreamhost.

    62 millions wordpress users ignore security in wordpress

    Are there 62 million Wordpress sites? That's a lot! Which security measures are they ignoring?

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Nigel Reed@1:124/5016 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, August 12, 2020 11:49:04
    Aaron wrote:
    I upgraded to Mint 20 "Ulyana" without hesitating. I thought it would be great, but shortly afterwards I noticed my CD/DVD ROM was no longer working, and neither was my sound card.

    On a fresh install, Mint has a bunch of quirks that I always needed to hammer
    out. But not Ubuntu - it's smooth as can be.

    I had always been happy with Mandrake/Mandriva and their urpmi system. In the end I switcehd to CentOS because all the work stuff I was doing was CentOS or Red Hat based so it made sense. It took me a while to get used to rpm.

    However I got very frustrated by how far back some packages are, yes I didn't really want to be on the bleeding edge of Fedora, since I tresrure my data and don't want to lose it.

    That's when I decided to switch to Ubuntu. I was using it previous for my BBS anyway because the DOSEMU for running 16 bit games under Linux just worked
    when I was struggling with CentOS.

    Now, I've converted all my systems to Ubuntu 20.04. Everything works, and it's much more current without risking too much.
    --- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
    * Origin: End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com (1:124/5016)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, August 12, 2020 22:49:20
    Hello Aaron!

    11 Aug 2020 16:15, Aaron Thomas wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    Are there 62 million Wordpress sites? That's a lot! Which security measures are they ignoring?

    live updates, that breaks tripwire signatures, design of how wordpress is secure is badly brokken, updates are fine if its done in normal spec file for building binaries pkgs to be installed

    at first i thinked its only a gentoo problem, but no its not, would you replace a kernel with something builded at microsoft that clams is latest linux version we provide you free of charge ?

    i wont blame wordpress developpers, but i do blame package maintainers that does not do it right


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/5.8.0-gentoo-r1-x86_64 (x86_64))
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Nigel Reed on Wednesday, August 12, 2020 20:30:08
    Now, I've converted all my systems to Ubuntu 20.04. Everything works, and i much more current without risking too much.

    The hardware support is there too! Some of these developers think one size
    fits all, but there are people out there using all kinds of ancient printers/scanners/etc. It's a lousy suprise to find them abandoned by your favorite OS.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Benny Pedersen on Wednesday, August 12, 2020 20:35:34
    live updates, that breaks tripwire signatures, design of how wordpress is secure is badly brokken, updates are fine if its done in normal spec file f building binaries pkgs to be installed

    Live updates for Wordpress or for plugins? To me, it seems like a bad idea regardless. You know how sometimes plugins start to conflict after an update?

    What do you mean by normal spec file building? I apologize, I don't understand that.

    at first i thinked its only a gentoo problem, but no its not, would you replace a kernel with something builded at microsoft that clams is latest

    Who is doing that? That sounds crazy! Unless it's inadvertant? I assume that none of us want to be dependent on Microsoft.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, August 14, 2020 13:33:36
    Hello Aaron!

    12 Aug 2020 20:35, Aaron Thomas wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    live updates, that breaks tripwire signatures, design of how wordpress
    is secure is badly brokken, updates are fine if its done in normal spec
    file f building binaries pkgs to be installed

    Live updates for Wordpress or for plugins?

    both

    To me, it seems like a bad
    idea regardless.

    yes since gentoo have md5 of every installed file in portage, so basicly wordpress webupdate is designed to clue less we want updates, more or less maybe just how its creeamed in centos

    You know how sometimes plugins start to conflict after an
    update?

    yes, words press is more stable if no webupdates or any update or even just new plugins is installed, to solve it all kind of plugins or even just themes must be in the tarball, so gentoo and other can verify md5 of every file installed

    tripwire will be happy aswell there, but tripwire is just not needed with gentoo :)

    What do you mean by normal spec file building?

    take a 10Gb tarball custommize the spec file for what you need, then compile it and install the binaries compiled install, that way no one on remote can update it

    I apologize, I don't understand that.

    fair

    at first i thinked its only a gentoo problem, but no its not, would
    you replace a kernel with something builded at microsoft that clams is
    latest

    Who is doing that?

    hopefully none

    That sounds crazy!

    Donald Trump is normal ?

    Unless it's inadvertant?

    maybe

    I assume that none of us want to be dependent on Microsoft.

    +1, i still have microsoft roms in my commodore 128 (basic), that is imho crime that it was alowed to be there without full asm source, commodore did not notice the risk of no more updates, it was silently killing old and good computer systems so microsoft could take another ride at new problems to solve


    Regards Benny

    ... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

    --- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/5.8.0-gentoo-r1-x86_64 (x86_64))
    * Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)