• [openxp] Styled Text

    From Martin Foster@2:280/464.27 to August Abolins on Thursday, March 10, 2022 08:52:29
    *** Replying to a message in WINPOINT

    Hello August!

    *** Wednesday 09.03.22 at 1:07:00, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

    With two /'s, the italics fails in OpenXP as well as in Thunderbird.

    I can't really comment about Thunderbird but AFAIK, OpenXP doesn't
    support italic text.

    wrt OpenXP, true enough.

    It doesn't support underlined either.

    I thought there was a colour setting in config/display when rendering italic.

    If there is, I can't find it.

    Regards,
    Martin

    --- WinPoint 404.0
    * Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:280/464.27)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Martin Foster on Thursday, March 10, 2022 09:07:00
    Hello Martin!

    wrt OpenXP, true enough.

    It doesn't support underlined either.

    _underline_ DOES get represented by changing colour here!


    I thought there was a colour setting in config/display when rendering
    italic.

    If there is, I can't find it.

    Maybe the program just uses the "highlight" setting for those.
    That's good enough for me.

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: The ONLY point that matters! --> . <-- (2:221/1.58)
  • From Martin Foster@2:280/464.27 to August Abolins on Friday, March 11, 2022 09:15:21
    Hello August!

    *** Thursday 10.03.22 at 14:07:00, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

    wrt OpenXP, true enough.

    It doesn't support underlined either.

    underline DOES get represented by changing colour here!

    Yes and that's exactly what happens here but it doesn't alter the fact that it isn't rendered in the way in which it was intended to be rendered.

    Regards,
    Martin

    --- WinPoint 404.0
    * Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:280/464.27)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Martin Foster on Friday, March 11, 2022 07:34:00
    Hello Martin!

    ** On Friday 11.03.22 - 09:15, you wrote to me:

    It doesn't support underlined either.

    underline DOES get represented by changing colour here!

    Yes and that's exactly what happens here but it doesn't
    alter the fact that it isn't rendered in the way in which
    it was intended to be rendered.


    It is rendered as best as possible within the scope of the tech
    that it operates in - the console-kinda-way. That means, the
    markup is respected. Good enough for me! :D Let's not have
    that changed. ;)
    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: The ONLY point that matters! --> . <-- (2:221/1.58)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Martin Foster on Monday, March 14, 2022 22:09:00
    Hello Martin!

    ** On Friday 11.03.22 - 09:15, you wrote:

    It doesn't support underlined either.

    underline DOES get represented by changing colour here!

    Yes and that's exactly what happens here but it doesn't alter the fact that it isn't rendered in the way in which it was intended to be
    rendered.

    Here is what I was looking for:

    ÉÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ»
    º º
    º It is common practice to emphasise words by enclosing º
    º them in *asterisks* or _underlines_. This switch º
    º causes OpenXP to take words enclosed by these º
    º characters and display them in a different colour, º
    º which can be set in /Config/Display/Colors/Lister. º
    º º
    º [x] Emphasise these words in a different º
    º colour. º
    º º
    º [ ] Do not emphasise by colour. º
    º º
    º You can toggle this setting at any time (if you want º
    º to take off the rose coloured spectacles) by pressing º
    º the C key (for Colour). º

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: The ONLY point that matters! --> . <-- (2:221/1.58)
  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to August Abolins on Wednesday, March 16, 2022 13:07:00
    Hello August!

    *** Monday 14.03.22 at 22:09, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

    It doesn't support underlined either.

    underline DOES get represented by changing colour here!

    Yes and that's exactly what happens here but it doesn't alter the fact
    that it isn't rendered in the way in which it was intended to be
    rendered.

    Here is what I was looking for:

    ÉÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ»
    º º
    º It is common practice to emphasise words by enclosing º
    º them in *asterisks* or _underlines_. This switch º
    º causes OpenXP to take words enclosed by these º
    º characters and display them in a different colour, º
    º which can be set in /Config/Display/Colors/Lister. º
    º º
    º [x] Emphasise these words in a different º
    º colour. º
    º º
    º [ ] Do not emphasise by colour. º
    º º
    º You can toggle this setting at any time (if you want º
    º to take off the rose coloured spectacles) by pressing º
    º the C key (for Colour). º

    Ah yes, good find :)

    That would be the help topic for this:

    Config -> Options -> Message Reader
    -----------------------------------
    +- Internal message reader options ------------+
    | |
    | [x] Full screen |
    | [x] Display clock |
    | [x] Line break in column 80 |
    | [x] Show reference arrows |
    | [ ] Fixed message header display |
    | |
    | [ ] Convert German ISO Umlauts |
    | [x] Use UTF-8 |
    | [x] *Highlight* words by colour <<---------
    | [ ] Multi-coloured quotes |
    | |
    | [ ] Mouse scroll bar |
    | [x] AutoScrolling |
    | |
    | [ ] Exit message reader with <Return> |
    | |
    | Viewer for URLs explorer | +----------------------------------------------+

    Regards,
    Martin

    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)
  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to August Abolins on Wednesday, March 16, 2022 13:50:00
    Hello August!

    *** Wednesday 16.03.22 at 13:07, Martin Foster wrote to August Abolins:

    [snip]
    Config -> Options -> Message Reader
    -----------------------------------
    +- Internal message reader options ------------+
    | |
    | [x] Full screen |
    | [x] Display clock |
    | [x] Line break in column 80 |
    | [x] Show reference arrows |
    | [ ] Fixed message header display |
    | |
    | [ ] Convert German ISO Umlauts |
    | [x] Use UTF-8 |
    | [x] *Highlight* words by colour <<---------
    | [ ] Multi-coloured quotes |
    | |
    | [ ] Mouse scroll bar |
    | [x] AutoScrolling |
    | |
    | [ ] Exit message reader with <Return> |
    | |
    | Viewer for URLs explorer | +----------------------------------------------+

    Hmmmm, just spotted something which I've never noticed before:

    As you can see, I have "Line break in column 80" enabled but it doesn't
    seem to work on my display. I have the number of columns set to 100 in my OpenXP config but lines don't wrap at column 80, they wrap at the window edge(column 100).

    Can you reproduce this?

    Regards,
    Martin

    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Martin Foster on Wednesday, March 16, 2022 19:24:00
    Hello Martin!

    ** On Wednesday 16.03.22 - 13:50, you wrote to me:

    Config -> Options -> Message Reader
    -----------------------------------
    +- Internal message reader options ------------+
    | |
    | [x] Full screen |
    | [x] Display clock |
    | [x] Line break in column 80 |
    | [x] Show reference arrows |
    | [ ] Fixed message header display |
    | |
    | [ ] Convert German ISO Umlauts |
    | [x] Use UTF-8 |
    | [x] *Highlight* words by colour <<---------
    | [ ] Multi-coloured quotes |
    | |
    | [ ] Mouse scroll bar |
    | [x] AutoScrolling |
    | |
    | [ ] Exit message reader with <Return> |
    | |
    | Viewer for URLs explorer |
    +----------------------------------------------+

    Hmmmm, just spotted something which I've never noticed before:

    As you can see, I have "Line break in column 80" enabled but it doesn't seem to work on my display. I have the number of columns set to 100 in my OpenXP config but lines don't wrap at column 80, they wrap at the window edge(column 100).

    Can you reproduce this?

    This is my setting:

    ÚÄ Internal message reader options ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿
    ³ ³
    ³ [x] Full screen ³
    ³ [x] Display clock ³
    ³ [x] Line break in column 80 ³
    ³ [x] Show reference arrows ³
    ³ [x] Fixed message header display ³
    ³ ³
    ³ [ ] Convert German ISO Umlauts ³
    ³ [x] Use UTF-8 ³
    ³ [x] *Highlight* words by colour ³
    ³ [x] Multi-coloured quotes ³
    ³ ³
    ³ [ ] Mouse scroll bar ³
    ³ [x] AutoScrolling ³
    ³ ³
    ³ [ ] Exit message reader with <Return> ³
    ³ ³
    ³ Viewer for URLs firefox ³ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ

    I don't think the line break to in column 80 works! I'll get
    messages that apparently don't have and soft-CRs in the message
    body and they continue to the full width of my OpenXP display
    window which is 100 as well.

    Lemme review a few older messages..

    [play the Jeopardy "thinking" tune]

    Nope. The messages still appear full width:

    https://susepaste.org/42619945

    Is that what you mean?


    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: The ONLY point that matters! --> . <-- (2:221/1.58)
  • From Martin Foster@2:310/31.3 to August Abolins on Thursday, March 17, 2022 08:52:00
    Hello August!

    *** Wednesday 16.03.22 at 19:24, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

    Config -> Options -> Message Reader
    -----------------------------------
    +- Internal message reader options ------------+
    | |
    | [x] Full screen |
    | [x] Display clock |
    | [x] Line break in column 80 |
    | [x] Show reference arrows |
    | [ ] Fixed message header display |
    | |
    | [ ] Convert German ISO Umlauts |
    | [x] Use UTF-8 |
    | [x] *Highlight* words by colour <<---------
    | [ ] Multi-coloured quotes |
    | |
    | [ ] Mouse scroll bar |
    | [x] AutoScrolling |
    | |
    | [ ] Exit message reader with <Return> |
    | |
    | Viewer for URLs explorer |
    +----------------------------------------------+

    Hmmmm, just spotted something which I've never noticed before:

    As you can see, I have "Line break in column 80" enabled but it doesn't
    seem to work on my display. I have the number of columns set to 100 in
    my OpenXP config but lines don't wrap at column 80, they wrap at the
    window edge(column 100).

    Can you reproduce this?

    This is my setting:

    ÚÄ Internal message reader options ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿
    ³ ³
    ³ [x] Full screen ³
    ³ [x] Display clock ³
    ³ [x] Line break in column 80 ³
    ³ [x] Show reference arrows ³
    ³ [x] Fixed message header display ³
    ³ ³
    ³ [ ] Convert German ISO Umlauts ³
    ³ [x] Use UTF-8 ³
    ³ [x] *Highlight* words by colour ³
    ³ [x] Multi-coloured quotes ³
    ³ ³
    ³ [ ] Mouse scroll bar ³
    ³ [x] AutoScrolling ³
    ³ ³
    ³ [ ] Exit message reader with <Return> ³
    ³ ³
    ³ Viewer for URLs firefox ³ ÀÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÙ

    I don't think the line break to in column 80 works! I'll get
    messages that apparently don't have and soft-CRs in the message
    body and they continue to the full width of my OpenXP display
    window which is 100 as well.

    Lemme review a few older messages..

    [play the Jeopardy "thinking" tune]

    Nope. The messages still appear full width:

    https://susepaste.org/42619945

    Is that what you mean?

    Yes, that's exactly what I mean and thanks for confirming it.

    See my netmail also.

    Regards,
    Martin

    --- OpenXP 5.0.51
    * Origin: Bitz-Box - Bradford - UK (2:310/31.3)