• Covid in the Vaxed Rising

    From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALL on Thursday, December 02, 2021 16:57:00
    Borrowed these links from another poster in another echo.

    COVID cases among the vaccinated are on the rise in British Columbia.

    https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2021HLTH0075-002290

    Past week cases (Nov. 22-28) - Total 2,342

    Not vaccinated: 1,269 (54.2%)
    Partially vaccinated: 93 (4.0%)
    Fully vaccinated: 980 (41.8%)

    Past two weeks cases hospitalized (Nov. 15-28) - Total 223

    Not vaccinated: 135 (60.5%)
    Partially vaccinated: 12 (5.4%)
    Fully vaccinated: 76 (34.1%)

    The fully vaccinated made up ~43% of new cases in Ontario yesterday.

    https://globalnews.ca/news/8412650/ontario-covid-cases-december-1-coronavirus/

    "Of the 780 new cases recorded, the data showed 369 were unvaccinated people, 24 were partially vaccinated people, 336 were fully vaccinated people and for 51 people the vaccination status was unknown."

    Not good.


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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Mike Powell on Friday, December 03, 2021 08:27:00
    Mike Powell wrote to ALL <=-

    "Of the 780 new cases recorded, the data showed 369 were unvaccinated people, 24 were partially vaccinated people, 336 were fully vaccinated people and for 51 people the vaccination status was unknown."

    Not good.

    But the numbers are in line with the fact that the COVID "vaccines" are not vaccines.


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  • From Doug McComber@1:105/420 to Mike Powell on Friday, December 03, 2021 12:36:31
    COVID cases among the vaccinated are on the rise in British Columbia.

    I've been watching the daily COVID cases news on Globalnews.ca for ON (my province doesn't give much info beyond a total count). Over the past 2 months the percentage of new daily cases that are fully vaxxed has risen from the low 30's to mid 40's.

    This is to be expected as the efficacy of the "vaccines" to prevent infection and transmission wanes. This is why (besides the abhorent authoritarianism) vaccine passports are stupid. All these people thinking they aren't spreading COVID and that we are in a "pandemic of the unvaccinated". It is only a matter of time before some elderly and immuno-compromised or people with comorbidities start dying because of this and a lack of rapid testing.
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Doug McComber on Friday, December 03, 2021 18:35:32
    Hello Doug,

    COVID cases among the vaccinated are on the rise in British
    Columbia.

    I've been watching the daily COVID cases news on Globalnews.ca for ON
    (my province doesn't give much info beyond a total count). Over the
    past 2 months the percentage of new daily cases that are fully vaxxed
    has risen from the low 30's to mid 40's.

    Here is a story from CTV Vancouver from October that talks about this.

    https://bc.ctvnews.ca/experts-caution-numbers-of-fully-vaccinated-in-hospital-p
    resent-skewed-version-of-reality-1.5628513

    A tiny.url version.

    https://tinyurl.com/bdf7d5v9

    This is to be expected as the efficacy of the "vaccines" to prevent infection and transmission wanes.

    BC is a highly vaccinated province. 80% of the population has had at least one shot and the number of fully vaccinated is close to that.

    You might find this page interesting.

    https://covid19tracker.ca/provincevac.html?p=BC

    We are in the midst of getting children 5+ and 12+ vaccinated and that has skewed the numbers somewhat.

    This is why (besides the abhorent authoritarianism) vaccine passports
    are stupid. All these people thinking they aren't spreading COVID and
    that we are in a "pandemic of the unvaccinated".

    Authoritarianism is abhorrent but that is not happening in BC.

    It is only a matter of time before some elderly and immuno-compromised
    or people with comorbidities start dying because of this and a lack of rapid testing.

    It's not a matter of time at all.

    Vaccinating, masking and social distancing are all done to help protect those who cannot be vaccinated.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Saturday, December 04, 2021 09:40:00
    BC is a highly vaccinated province. 80% of the population has had at least one
    shot and the number of fully vaccinated is close to that.

    You might find this page interesting.

    https://covid19tracker.ca/provincevac.html?p=BC

    We are in the midst of getting children 5+ and 12+ vaccinated and that has skewed the numbers somewhat.

    That is all good, but the link I posted also shows that the percentage of
    cases in BC that are vaxed people is going up.

    https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2021HLTH0075-002290

    If it is anything like here, vaxed people are letting their guard down and
    not taking other precautions. Then, when they get sick, they blame the "unvaxed" when it is more likely their own fault for no longer distancing or wearing a mask, or their employer's fault for bringing them back into an environment full-time where they cannot distance while working.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to DOUG MCCOMBER on Saturday, December 04, 2021 09:40:00
    This is to be expected as the efficacy of the "vaccines" to prevent infection d transmission wanes. This is why (besides the abhorent authoritarianism) vac
    ne passports are stupid. All these people thinking they aren't spreading COVID
    nd that we are in a "pandemic of the unvaccinated".

    The vax passports, if they were working, should cause the numbers in vaxed people not to go up as they should be "shielded" from being around the
    unvaxed when in public.

    However, what is likely happening is that all of these vaxed folks, with
    that false sense of security, are letting their guards down and getting
    each other sick.

    Those could very well be your links from another network that I posted here.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Saturday, December 04, 2021 08:52:26
    Hello Mike,

    We are in the midst of getting children 5+ and 12+ vaccinated and
    that has skewed the numbers somewhat.

    That is all good, but the link I posted also shows that the percentage
    of cases in BC that are vaxed people is going up.

    BC is highly vaccinated. The number of unvaccinated is small. In spite of that the number of unvaccinated cases and deaths is high.

    There isn't a narrative here about a pandemic of the unvaccinated, since the number of unvaccinated is small.

    https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2021HLTH0075-002290

    If it is anything like here, vaxed people are letting their guard down
    and not taking other precautions.

    It is not the people here so much as the guidelines. A few weeks before the delta variant was known there were plans to open BC back up. In the mean time news of the delta variant was heard and BC did open up. We couldn't stop the momentum of those plans and then there were large numbers of new cases and deaths.

    This new Omicron variant could see another round of that.

    Then, when they get sick, they blame the "unvaxed" when it is more
    likely their own fault for no longer distancing or wearing a mask, or their employer's fault for bringing them back into an environment full-time where they cannot distance while working.

    Regardless of the reason for these variants all we can do is use the tools we have (vaccinating, masking and distancing) to protect ourselves and those around us.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Doug McComber@1:105/420 to Alan Ianson on Saturday, December 04, 2021 12:29:23
    It is not the people here so much as the guidelines. A few weeks before the delta variant was known there were plans to open BC back up. In the mean time news of the delta variant was heard and BC did open up. We couldn't stop the momentum of those plans and then there were large numbers of new cases and deaths.

    This new Omicron variant could see another round of that.

    Omicron is supposed to be mild. More contagious, but mild. This makes sense as viruses tend to mutate towards contagion and less "harm" over the course of a pandemic. So far it has been detected in 38 countries but no deaths have been reported.

    Hopefully the media stops with the fear porn and reports Omicron as it actually happens. Won't hold my breath of course. Fear sells and news is a business. Still, some sane voices are making it through the noise on some news sites.
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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Ron Lauzon on Saturday, December 04, 2021 15:32:07

    On 03 Dec 2021, Ron Lauzon said the following...

    But the numbers are in line with the fact that the COVID "vaccines" are not vaccines.
    Last week I called the doctors office and requested to be seen.
    They wanted to know why I wanted to be seen and what my symptoms were.
    I told them that I was experiencing nasal congestion, semi-sore throat.
    I was told upon arriving to the office I would need to go to the back clinic in the rear of the building, instead of going into the main front door of the doctors office, this was because of the covid hysteria.
    This also meant that I wouldn't have access to my primary physician.

    Once I was called into the treatment room the nurse checking the vitals was nice and even empathic.
    I was told while she was wearing a smirk "everything is covid"
    until it is proven it is not.

    Moments later the Doctor comes in and one of her first questions
    was if I was vaccinated, no I replied.
    With a frown and a tone that seemed to be judgmental and even a sigh, she asked why not?

    I explained that I already had covid last year March of 2020.
    Additionally, I explained all of the not so positive effects that I have heard about of this so called vaccine. I even told her what I thought it was a immunity booster and not a vaccine at all.
    This set her off like a firework from then onward I knew she learned far left, as she seemed to ridicule me.
    She also suggested the antibodies from last March have been long since left
    the body. This was proved to be inaccurate information.

    Upon arriving home I called the office and asked to speak to the medical director of the facility.
    I suggested that the physicians first duty is to her medical oath, any political afflictions to the left or to the Democratic Party should be left
    at home.
    She enthusiastically agreed with me and apologized profusely for my
    experience. She also indicated that she would speak to the physician to let
    her know to not be judgmental and that patients rights Trumps everything.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Sunday, December 05, 2021 15:01:14
    Hello Greg,

    But the numbers are in line with the fact that the COVID "vaccines" are
    not vaccines.

    Last week I called the doctors office and requested to be seen.
    They wanted to know why I wanted to be seen and what my symptoms were.
    I told them that I was experiencing nasal congestion, semi-sore throat.
    I was told upon arriving to the office I would need to go to the back clinic
    in the rear of the building, instead of going into the main front door of the doctors office, this was because of the covid hysteria.

    Not "covid hysteria" but proper protocol, given the signs of your
    condition. Nobody wanted you to infect others, if you happened to be contagious.

    This also meant that I wouldn't have access to my primary physician.

    Oh, you would have had access. Maybe not face to face, as you might
    have wished, but definite access.

    Once I was called into the treatment room the nurse checking the vitals was
    nice and even empathic. I was told while she was wearing a smirk "everything is covid" until it is proven it is not.

    Why should that be a surprise, given the number of people who have
    tested positive?

    Moments later the Doctor comes in and one of her first questions
    was if I was vaccinated, no I replied. With a frown and a tone that seemed to be judgmental and even a sigh, she asked why not?

    A reasonable question, as some folks might not be able to be
    vaccinated due to medical condition, or have religious/philosophical objections.

    I explained that I already had covid last year March of 2020.

    A very short, temporary immunity, about three months.

    Additionally, I explained all of the not so positive effects that I have heard about of this so called vaccine.

    We have all heard the same stories. But how much is credible?
    Seems to me most (if not all) of those stories are a bunch of
    hogwash.

    I even told her what I thought it was a immunity booster and not a vaccine at all.

    No vaccine is a cure for anything. To say or suggest a vaccine is
    a booster is highly misleading, if not a downright lie.

    This set her off like a firework from then onward I knew she learned far left, as she seemed to ridicule me.

    She's a woman. And she let her own emotions get to her head.
    So you have only yourself to blame. I mean, it is never a woman's
    fault. You know that.

    She also suggested the antibodies from last March have been long since left
    the body. This was proved to be inaccurate information.

    Her suggestion is not quite true, as the number of antibodies do
    increase when around others who are covid positive. That is what
    I know from real medical doctors who have had covid, and continue
    to work as medical doctors.

    Upon arriving home I called the office and asked to speak to the medical director of the facility.

    Why?

    I suggested that the physicians first duty is to her medical oath,

    First, do no harm ...

    any political afflictions to the left or to the Democratic Party should be left at home.

    That's the ticket! All praise and glory to the Republican Party!
    It is in the medical oath of honor!

    She enthusiastically agreed with me and apologized profusely for my experience.

    The medical director must have been a deep shade of red, having
    to apologize for a physician.

    She also indicated that she would speak to the physician to let her know to
    not be judgmental and that patients rights Trumps everything.

    You really should forgive the physician, and you know why.
    The Devil (Joe Biden) made her do it.

    --Lee

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Gregory Deyss on Sunday, December 05, 2021 10:01:00
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

    Last week I called the doctors office and requested to be seen.
    They wanted to know why I wanted to be seen and what my symptoms were.
    I told them that I was experiencing nasal congestion, semi-sore throat.
    I was told upon arriving to the office I would need to go to the back clinic in the rear of the building, instead of going into the main
    front door of the doctors office, this was because of the covid
    hysteria. This also meant that I wouldn't have access to my primary physician.

    Why does this bring to mind images of the "Black Only" signs in the South way back in the 1960's?

    This set her off like a firework from then onward I knew she learned
    far left, as she seemed to ridicule me.

    I would have walked out at that point.

    She also suggested the antibodies from last March have been long since left the body. This was proved to be inaccurate information.

    It *IS* inaccurate information. Your body remembers even though you might
    not have active antibodies at the moment.

    Again, I would have walked out with a parting line of questioning her professional status and knowledge.

    She enthusiastically agreed with me and apologized profusely for my experience. She also indicated that she would speak to the physician to let her know to not be judgmental and that patients rights Trumps everything.

    And she's right. But I can tell you that she's only giving you lip service on this.

    Hospitals are dependant on gov't money and will do what their Leftie Elite masters demand.

    IHMO: I will not go to a hospital for anything that could be considered COVID and if the hospital demands that I take a probably-false-positive COVID test for entry, I will decline and leave.

    Based on how I've been treated over the last year, it seems that most people have the same feeling. The medical places I've been in have been mostly doing "theater" things to pacify the sheeple.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to GREGORY DEYSS on Sunday, December 05, 2021 11:02:00
    She also suggested the antibodies from last March have been long since left the body. This was proved to be inaccurate information.

    So they tested you for antibodies and you still had them?


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