• Sending out information

    From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to All on Thursday, January 27, 2022 02:00:11
    I recently heard that in Texas, when someone turns 16, they automatically get a personal letter with information about how to get a driver's license. True? In other states too?

    And I guess the oil barons like it -- at least as long as the majority is driving around in gas guzzling F-150s and similar...

    Well then, when they already have the system set-up, wouldn't it be easy to send information about how to register as a voter when they turn 18? No?

    But I guess getting a driver's license, in a country where working public transportations are almost non-existent, is more important than getting everybody to take part of the hallmark of democracy -- voting.




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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Björn Felten on Wednesday, January 26, 2022 19:19:19
    On 27 Jan 2022, Bj”rn Felten said the following...
    I recently heard that in Texas, when someone turns 16, they
    automatically get a personal letter with information about how to get a driver's license. True? In other states too?

    I'm not sure about that, but in order to get a driver's license, one already must know how to drive. Learner's permits are available for those learning to drive. Various courses are available, but parents are also allowed to teach their children to drive. For students who pass a recognized course, only a state driving test is required. For parent-taught students, both written and driving tests are required.

    And I guess the oil barons like it -- at least as long as the
    majority is driving around in gas guzzling F-150s and similar...

    True...

    Well then, when they already have the system set-up, wouldn't it be easy to send information about how to register as a voter when they turn 18? No?

    It sure seems like it.

    But I guess getting a driver's license, in a country where working public transportations are almost non-existent, is more important than getting everybody to take part of the hallmark of democracy -- voting.

    Well, while you're analyzing our priorities, 18-year-olds *are* reminded to sign up for the Selective Service (draft), which is kind of weird because
    it's mandatory and they know who is old enough but they still require people
    to sign up near their 18th birthday.

    Jeff.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to BJöRN FELTEN on Thursday, January 27, 2022 16:16:00
    Well then, when they already have the system set-up, wouldn't it be easy to
    end information about how to register as a voter when they turn 18? No?

    But I guess getting a driver's license, in a country where working public t
    nsportations are almost non-existent, is more important than getting everybody
    o take part of the hallmark of democracy -- voting.

    There are motor-voter laws in many states, i.e. you can easily register to
    vote when you renew your license.


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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Mike Powell on Thursday, January 27, 2022 17:38:44
    On 27 Jan 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
    But I guess getting a driver's license, in a country where working pu t
    nsportations are almost non-existent, is more important than getting everybody
    o take part of the hallmark of democracy -- voting.
    There are motor-voter laws in many states, i.e. you can easily register
    to vote when you renew your license.

    If you have a driver's license, that is...

    Jeff.
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JEFF THIELE on Friday, January 28, 2022 15:53:00
    But I guess getting a driver's license, in a country where working p
    t
    nsportations are almost non-existent, is more important than getting everybody
    o take part of the hallmark of democracy -- voting.
    There are motor-voter laws in many states, i.e. you can easily register to vote when you renew your license.

    If you have a driver's license, that is...

    The assumption of the original poster was that getting a license was easier that registering to vote. As far as I know, they will not prevent you from registering at these places even if you don't want a license.


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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Mike Powell on Friday, January 28, 2022 15:44:35
    On 28 Jan 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
    But I guess getting a driver's license, in a country where wor p
    t
    nsportations are almost non-existent, is more important than gett everybody
    o take part of the hallmark of democracy -- voting.
    There are motor-voter laws in many states, i.e. you can easily regi to vote when you renew your license.
    If you have a driver's license, that is...
    The assumption of the original poster was that getting a license was easier that registering to vote. As far as I know, they will not
    prevent you from registering at these places even if you don't want a license.

    If I remember correctly, it's a checkbox on one of the forms filled out for getting a driver's license. It's not a separate form, at least not in Texas.

    Jeff.

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Saturday, January 29, 2022 03:02:00
    The assumption of the original poster was that getting a license was easier
    that registering to vote.

    Easier *that*...? So you are on that level?

    No, I, the original poster made no "assumption" like that, I only asked why the state regarded it more important to send out personal info on one subject and not the other.

    As I've said repeatedly now, out here in the true democratic world, every citizen is automatically registered as a voter at birth. So it's a wee bit alien to us, all those voter registration obstacles, trying to prevent people from casting the "proper" (GOP) vote.



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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to BJöRN FELTEN on Saturday, January 29, 2022 10:56:00
    No, I, the original poster made no "assumption" like that, I only asked why
    he state regarded it more important to send out personal info on one subject a
    not the other.

    My state seems to send out plenty of voting info. On the other hand, I
    don't remember receiving any info when I turned 16. It was mine and my parent's job to find the training booklet and find out where I was supposed
    to go to take my tests.

    By the way, weren't you banned from here several years ago by the moderator
    at the time, an event that gave birth to your Cajun Swedish Meatball
    alter-ego sock-puppet Lee Lofaso?

    When the moderatorship was handed to me, I am pretty sure your name, and
    Lee's, were the only ones (at the time) that came up.


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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Sunday, January 30, 2022 02:43:11
    By the way, weren't you banned from here several years ago by the moderator
    at the time, an event that gave birth to your Cajun Swedish Meatball alter-ego sock-puppet Lee Lofaso?

    I guess I should be first to hear about any ban? Still not happened.

    And as for Lee, if you are so badly educated in your own mother's tongue that you can't even distinguish between a native speaker and someone like me, with English not even my second language (that's German) but my third, I really, truly pity you. It must be hard to find a well paid, steady job when you are in that awkward position?



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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to BJ¡RN FELTEN on Sunday, January 30, 2022 09:41:00
    pity you. It must be hard to find a well paid, steady job when you are in tha
    awkward position?

    My problem has not been keeping such a job, but when to retire. :)

    Your English is passable for someone for whom English is a third (or more) language. Lee's English is not always so great, like maybe it is not his
    first (or second) language, either, especially when he seems excited about something.

    Persons with multiple personality disorders can display skills and traits
    in one personality that other personalities may not be good at, or may not
    even be aware of.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Bj÷rn Felten on Sunday, January 30, 2022 17:20:24
    Hello Bj”rn,

    By the way, weren't you banned from here several years ago by the
    moderator at the time, an event that gave birth to your Cajun MP>Swedish
    Meatball alter-ego sock-puppet Lee Lofaso?

    I guess I should be first to hear about any ban? Still not happened.

    The last (recognized) moderator of this echo was Gary Braswell,
    who left Fidonet several years ago. AFAIK, nobody was ever banned
    by Gary Braswell during the entire time he was moderator. And
    since he never bothered to name anybody to replace him, the only
    moderators who are left are participants of this echo.

    And that really is the way it should be. Participants vote with
    their feet. Those who like it here, stay. Those who do not, leave.

    Now, each participant in this echo is welcome to write up any
    rules they want. And also to impose (and enforce) any rules they
    want onto themselves. It is really quite easy to do. Of course
    it does help to learn how to use the <N>ext key.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Bj÷rn Felten on Sunday, January 30, 2022 17:20:41
    Hello Bj”rn,

    By the way, weren't you banned from here several years ago by the
    moderator
    at the time, an event that gave birth to your Cajun Swedish Meatball
    alter-ego sock-puppet Lee Lofaso?

    I guess I should be first to hear about any ban? Still not happened.

    And as for Lee, if you are so badly educated in your own mother's tongue
    that you can't even distinguish between a native speaker and someone like me, with English not even my second language (that's German) but my third, I really, truly pity you. It must be hard to find a well paid, steady job when you are in that awkward position?

    My native language is Cajun French. Had no choice but to speak
    that language when I was growing up, as it was total immersion.
    Imagine going to kindergarten and saying the Pledge of Allegiance
    in Cajun French, singing the Star-Spangled Banner in Cajun French,
    and everything else children are taught to do by their teacher -
    who spoke only Cajun French and not a word of English.

    In New Orleans, most folks speak a language known as yat. Kind of
    a mix of several languages. Understood by everyone here, but very
    foreign to those outside the area.

    That is how strong the French language is among people in Louisiana.
    "Who dat?" is not just a phrase that was made up as a Saints chant.
    It is the way people really do speak here.

    We understand each other just fine here. We do not view ourselves
    as having any accent, as it is those who outside who have an accent.

    Louisiana tourism motto: Come to Louisiana. Leave different.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Sunday, January 30, 2022 17:20:55
    Hello Mike,

    [..]

    By the way, weren't you banned from here several years ago by the moderator
    at the time, an event that gave birth to your Cajun Swedish Meatball alter-ego sock-puppet Lee Lofaso?

    How wonderful it is to live rent-free inside your head. :)

    When the moderatorship was handed to me, I am pretty sure your name, and Lee's, were the only ones (at the time) that came up.

    I own you. :)

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Sunday, January 30, 2022 19:06:49
    Hello Mike,

    pity you. It must be hard to find a well paid, steady job when you
    are in tha
    awkward position?

    My problem has not been keeping such a job, but when to retire. :)

    Your English is passable for someone for whom English is a third (or more) language. Lee's English is not always so great, like maybe it is not his first (or second) language, either, especially when he seems excited about something.

    Cajun French is my native language. But not anybody else in this
    echo is fluent enough to converse. OTOH, Swedish is the easiest
    language to learn, so maybe we all should go back to school ...

    Persons with multiple personality disorders can display skills and traits in one personality that other personalities may not be good at, or may not even be aware of.

    You have not met anybody who has multiple personality disorder.
    I have. But then, you have never been inside a nuthouse.

    --Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Lee Lofaso on Sunday, January 30, 2022 19:54:30
    Cajun French is my native language. But not anybody else in this

    Wouldn't it be hilarious if Joe Biden came to Louisiana and tried to appropriate Cajuns? The way he does it with blacks already? I'm ready to start seeing him exploit other demographics for a change ;)

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Monday, January 31, 2022 14:44:23
    Hello Aaron,

    Cajun French is my native language. But not anybody else in this

    Wouldn't it be hilarious if Joe Biden came to Louisiana and tried to appropriate Cajuns? The way he does it with blacks already? I'm ready to start seeing him exploit other demographics for a change ;)

    Joe Biden has visited Louisiana. Both before, and after, he became
    POTUS. He had so much fun we really do have to invite him to return.
    Especially with Mardi Gras underway, and JazzFest around the corner.

    Randy Newman is scheduled to perform at JazzFest, and he is great.
    I saw him in concert years ago in Shreveport, when his song "Short
    People" hit the top of the charts. The gal I was with at the time
    never forgave me, as he poked fun of everybody. Short people, tall
    people, crippled people, fat people, skinny people, retarded people,
    you name it.

    I hope the gal I bring to JazzFest is more forgiving.

    --Lee

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