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    From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to All on Wednesday, February 02, 2022 10:21:20
    Which side were you on when a tyrant attempted to illegally sieze power?

    As it becomes apparent that Trump tried to overturn a free and fair election, it is also becoming apparent that he did not act alone. Republicans in
    multiple states attempted to aid in Trump's coup.

    And yet, these co-conspirators still hold positions in the GOP.

    Which side are you on?

    Jeff.

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Jeff Thiele on Wednesday, February 02, 2022 17:40:19
    Which side are you on?

    Thank <insert deity of your choice> I'm only a bystander watching MSNBC and reading Washington Post every day, with not a day going by without new revelations in this ongoing soap opera.

    As usual I, Swedish as I am, pledge total neutrality. :)

    And yes, I *do* understand that, when the US economy goes down the drain, it will take many other countries with it. We've been far to na‹ve when going global with our economies, ergo getting too dependant on the US dollar.


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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Björn Felten on Wednesday, February 02, 2022 14:19:54
    On 02 Feb 2022, Bj”rn Felten said the following...
    Thank <insert deity of your choice> I'm only a bystander watching
    MSNBC and reading Washington Post every day, with not a day going by without new revelations in this ongoing soap opera.

    I don't watch MSNBC (or any other televised news*), but I do read the Washington Post. And yeah, the revelations just keep on piling up.

    As usual I, Swedish as I am, pledge total neutrality. :)

    I thought that was the Swiss? ;)

    And yes, I *do* understand that, when the US economy goes down the drain, it will take many other countries with it. We've been far to
    na‹ve when going global with our economies, ergo getting too dependant
    on the US dollar.

    I don't think it's going to go too far down the drain, as long as we can keep seditionists out of office.

    * The exception would be when some major thing happens, the kind of thing
    that causes the news networks to forgo commercials and all other coverage.
    Then I may watch CNN.

    Jeff.
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JEFF THIELE on Wednesday, February 02, 2022 16:06:00
    As usual I, Swedish as I am, pledge total neutrality. :)

    I thought that was the Swiss? ;)

    The Swiss would be a correct answer.

    If you have an interest in history at all, you can read up about Swedish "neutrality" during WWII and make your own decision. :)


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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Mike Powell on Wednesday, February 02, 2022 15:36:54
    On 02 Feb 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
    As usual I, Swedish as I am, pledge total neutrality. :)
    I thought that was the Swiss? ;)
    The Swiss would be a correct answer.
    If you have an interest in history at all, you can read up about Swedish "neutrality" during WWII and make your own decision. :)

    I am familiar with Swiss neutrality during WWII, but that doesn't mean that
    the Swedes have not been neutral at any other time.

    Jeff.

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Thursday, February 03, 2022 06:47:58
    If you have an interest in history at all, you can read up about Swedish "neutrality" during WWII and make your own decision. :)

    I realised many, many years ago, that many people don't understand the full meaning of neutrality. Even here in Sweden. In this case it means that Sweden, during WWII, tried to treat the outside world exactly as we did before the war broke out. The *entire* outside world, not just the Allies...

    Yes, sometimes we felt it morally right to violate our pledge to neutrality, like when we helped almost all the Jews in Denmark escape the Holocaust or when we secretly allowed the Norwegian resistance movement to escape over the border to recuperate and then return home to keep fighting.

    We also secretly helped several hundreds of US pilots, forced to make an emergency landing on Swedish soil, return to service. So sue us, but stop with the bickering. I wasn't even born by then, so I take no responsibility for what happened back then.



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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Thursday, February 03, 2022 15:53:12
    Hello Bj”rn,

    If you have an interest in history at all, you can read up about
    Swedish
    "neutrality" during WWII and make your own decision. :)

    I realised many, many years ago, that many people don't understand the full meaning of neutrality. Even here in Sweden. In this case it means that
    Sweden, during WWII, tried to treat the outside world exactly as we did before the war broke out. The *entire* outside world, not just the Allies...

    Ireland, Switzerland, and Turkey were also neutral during WWII.

    Yes, sometimes we felt it morally right to violate our pledge to neutrality, like when we helped almost all the Jews in Denmark escape the Holocaust or when we secretly allowed the Norwegian resistance movement to escape over the border to recuperate and then return home to keep fighting.

    If only passengers of the St. Louis had someplace they could go ...

    We also secretly helped several hundreds of US pilots, forced to make an
    emergency landing on Swedish soil, return to service. So sue us, but stop with the bickering. I wasn't even born by then, so I take no responsibility
    for what happened back then.

    The US apologized to Japanese Americans for what it did to them
    during WWII, and made reparations as compensation. The US should do
    the same for African Americans, for what it did to them due to slavery,
    and pay them reparations as compensation. I mean, fair is fair.

    --Lee

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