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  • Re: This echo <> free spe

    From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JEFF THIELE on Tuesday, February 08, 2022 16:37:00
    If you haven't paid your taxes, you're not allowed free speech! I expec
    tax-payers to disagree with me immediately! I would also assume that al
    you have FaceBot accounts...
    I am not certain that you cannot speak freely, but they will indeed limit
    your other freedoms.

    Unpaid taxes don't limit your freedoms until it gets to the point where you're thrown in jail, and there are plenty of opportunities to correct the situation before that happens. The IRS wants the money it is owed, not anyone's freedom. They gain nothing by jailing people except as a deterrent to others.

    I think he meant people who don't make enough to pay taxes at all. I read
    that as people who are reliant on the government. When you become reliant
    on the government, you do indeed lose freedom.


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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Mike Powell on Tuesday, February 08, 2022 16:24:57
    If you haven't paid your taxes, you're not allowed free speech! I expec
    tax-payers to disagree with me immediately! I would also assume t al
    you have FaceBot accounts...
    I am not certain that you cannot speak freely, but they will indeed limit
    your other freedoms.

    Unpaid taxes don't limit your freedoms until it gets to the point where you're thrown in jail, and there are plenty of opportunities to correct situation before that happens. The IRS wants the money it is owed, not anyone's freedom. They gain nothing by jailing people except as a deterr to others.

    I think he meant people who don't make enough to pay taxes at all. I
    read that as people who are reliant on the government. When you become reliant on the government, you do indeed lose freedom.

    I think he meant people with unpaid taxes. With a few exceptions (such as the military and public servants), being reliant on money from the government
    does not limit one's freedoms. I've never heard of anyone being silenced by
    the government because they don't make enough to pay taxes.

    Jeff.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JEFF THIELE on Wednesday, February 09, 2022 15:43:00
    I think he meant people who don't make enough to pay taxes at all. I read that as people who are reliant on the government. When you become reliant on the government, you do indeed lose freedom.

    I think he meant people with unpaid taxes. With a few exceptions (such as the military and public servants), being reliant on money from the government does not limit one's freedoms. I've never heard of anyone being silenced by the government because they don't make enough to pay taxes.

    I agree they don't usually silence them, but there are other things you
    cannot do that someone with a job (and paying taxes) can do.


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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Mike Powell on Wednesday, February 09, 2022 17:58:45
    On 09 Feb 2022, Mike Powell said the following...
    I think he meant people who don't make enough to pay taxes at all. read that as people who are reliant on the government. When you be reliant on the government, you do indeed lose freedom.

    I think he meant people with unpaid taxes. With a few exceptions (such a military and public servants), being reliant on money from the governmen does not limit one's freedoms. I've never heard of anyone being silenced the government because they don't make enough to pay taxes.

    I agree they don't usually silence them, but there are other things you cannot do that someone with a job (and paying taxes) can do.

    Such as? Remember that we're specifically talking about the government restricting one's freedoms.

    Jeff.

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