• Democrat Sex Club

    From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to All on Monday, February 21, 2022 06:05:51
    Jeff Epstein/Bill Clinton bff Jean Luc Brunel was "found dead by suicide" in his prison cell this past Saturday.

    When you have nasty dirt on people like Bill Clinton, Bill Richardson, and/or Prince Andrew, and you end up in prison, you've got to really watch your back!

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Aaron Thomas on Monday, February 21, 2022 01:24:58
    On 21 Feb 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...
    Jeff Epstein/Bill Clinton bff Jean Luc Brunel was "found dead by
    suicide" in his prison cell this past Saturday.

    Don't you mean Jeff Epstein/Donald Trump bff?

    When you have nasty dirt on people like Bill Clinton, Bill Richardson, and/or Prince Andrew, and you end up in prison, you've got to really
    watch your back!

    And also Donald Trump. August 10, 2019, the date of Epstein's suicide was neither during Clinton's presidency nor in Prince Andrew's country. However,
    it was both during Trump's presidency *and* in the country of which Trump was president. Curious, no?

    Jeff.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Aaron Thomas on Monday, February 21, 2022 01:49:01
    On 21 Feb 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...
    Jeff Epstein/Bill Clinton bff Jean Luc Brunel was "found dead by
    suicide" in his prison cell this past Saturday.

    When you have nasty dirt on people like Bill Clinton, Bill Richardson, and/or Prince Andrew, and you end up in prison, you've got to really
    watch your back!

    I mean, really, man historically speaking, what have been the biggest
    instances of institutionalized pedophelia?

    The Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts.

    While both have become somewhat more liberal in recent years, this history of institutionalized sexual abuse of children goes back decades, if not more, a time during which both the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts were considered very conservative organizations.

    Jeff.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Jeff Thiele on Tuesday, February 22, 2022 04:33:38
    While both have become somewhat more liberal in recent years, this
    history of institutionalized sexual abuse of children goes back decades, if not more, a time during which both the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts were considered very conservative organizations.

    I'm sorry that, aparently, some Republican scoutmaster did that stuff to you.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, February 22, 2022 07:26:21
    On 22 Feb 2022, Aaron Thomas said the following...
    While both have become somewhat more liberal in recent years, this history of institutionalized sexual abuse of children goes back decad if not more, a time during which both the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts were considered very conservative organizations.

    I'm sorry that, aparently, some Republican scoutmaster did that stuff to you.

    I was fortunate to avoid such a fate, but many were not. Likewise in the church. Although I was raised Lutheran, not Catholic, there does seem to be a certain correlation between the pprevalence of sex crimes and the level of conservatism, and especially authoritarianism, in a given denomination/congregation.

    Jeff.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Jeff Thiele on Tuesday, February 22, 2022 17:44:00
    Hello Jeff,

    While both have become somewhat more liberal in recent years,
    this
    history of institutionalized sexual abuse of children goes back
    decad
    if not more, a time during which both the Catholic Church and
    the Boy
    Scouts were considered very conservative organizations.

    I'm sorry that, aparently, some Republican scoutmaster did that stuff
    to
    you.

    I was fortunate to avoid such a fate, but many were not. Likewise in the church. Although I was raised Lutheran, not Catholic, there does seem to be
    a
    certain correlation between the pprevalence of sex crimes and the level of conservatism, and especially authoritarianism, in a given denomination/congregation.

    All who have committed sex crimes should be charged and prosecuted.
    As well as those who cover up those crimes. How many sexual predators
    have hid behind the cover of being a school teacher, or a priest, or
    any other person seen as an authority?

    It is not the Catholic Church itself that is at fault, but some within
    the RCC who are/were at fault. Benedict XVI resigned from office due to
    his failure to correct the problem when he was pope. And has since been
    found to have been responsible for allowing it to happen when he was
    bishop in Germany, prior to becoming pope.

    John Paul II was in office for 26 years, yet chose to do nothing at
    all until the last year of his pontificate, when he knew he was dying.
    And what he did then was very little. With his top lieutenant standing
    right by his side (B16).

    Yes, there are many Catholics who have sinned. There have also been
    many non-Catholics. So let's not blame all the priests and ministers,
    whoever they may be. Most are good and faithful servants who would
    never do what those creeps have done.

    --Lee

    --
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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Lee Lofaso on Tuesday, February 22, 2022 15:39:02
    On 22 Feb 2022, Lee Lofaso said the following...
    I'm sorry that, aparently, some Republican scoutmaster did that stuf
    to
    you.

    I was fortunate to avoid such a fate, but many were not. Likewise in church. Although I was raised Lutheran, not Catholic, there does seem be
    a
    certain correlation between the pprevalence of sex crimes and the lev conservatism, and especially authoritarianism, in a given denomination/congregation.

    All who have committed sex crimes should be charged and prosecuted.
    As well as those who cover up those crimes. How many sexual predators
    have hid behind the cover of being a school teacher, or a priest, or
    any other person seen as an authority?

    Agreed. I do not favor letting anyone get away with it.

    It is not the Catholic Church itself that is at fault, but some within
    the RCC who are/were at fault. Benedict XVI resigned from office due to his failure to correct the problem when he was pope. And has since been found to have been responsible for allowing it to happen when he was bishop in Germany, prior to becoming pope.

    John Paul II was in office for 26 years, yet chose to do nothing at
    all until the last year of his pontificate, when he knew he was dying.
    And what he did then was very little. With his top lieutenant standing right by his side (B16).

    Yes, there are many Catholics who have sinned. There have also been
    many non-Catholics. So let's not blame all the priests and ministers, whoever they may be. Most are good and faithful servants who would
    never do what those creeps have done.

    According to Catholic doctrine, all Catholics are guilty of sin. But you don't hear them whining about not even being alive when Eve ate that apple, do you?
    I mean, between then and now there was apparently even a worldwide flood that killed all humans except one family. But not even that was enough to atone
    for the apple incident.

    However, you are absolutely correct that the vast majority of Catholics have not abused children. However, those that have being protected by their organization is another matter entirely.

    Jeff.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JEFF THIELE on Tuesday, February 22, 2022 16:27:00
    I was fortunate to avoid such a fate, but many were not. Likewise in the church. Although I was raised Lutheran, not Catholic, there does seem to be a certain correlation between the pprevalence of sex crimes and the level of conservatism, and especially authoritarianism, in a given denomination/congregation.

    I would equate that less to the levels of what you say and more to the
    levels of "secretism" and mystery that some of these groups like to
    maintain.


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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Mike Powell on Tuesday, February 22, 2022 16:33:05
    On 22 Feb 2022, Mike Powell said the following...

    I was fortunate to avoid such a fate, but many were not. Likewise in the church. Although I was raised Lutheran, not Catholic, there does seem to certain correlation between the pprevalence of sex crimes and the level conservatism, and especially authoritarianism, in a given denomination/congregation.

    I would equate that less to the levels of what you say and more to the levels of "secretism" and mystery that some of these groups like to maintain.

    The Boy Scouts? Secretive? What did I miss?

    Jeff.

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