Al Thompson wrote to Bj”rn Felten <=-
The people I know who own and drive EV cars say that a 15 minute charge from near empty to full is a pipe dream.
If you're going to use the car just to drive a few miles to the grocery and back, an EV car may make sense. But any serious use is still not realistic.
If you're going to use the car just to drive a few miles to the groce and back, an EV car may make sense. But any serious use is still not realistic.
Funny. That's the same thing that they said about electric cars back in the 1800's.
Funny. That's the same thing that they said about electric cars back the 1800's.
That was true also of horses. In the 1800s, any serious long-distance travel that didn't involve a wagon caravan was done by train.
That was true also of horses. In the 1800s, any serious long-distance travel that didn't involve a wagon caravan was done by train.
That was true also of horses. In the 1800s, any serious long-distance tr that didn't involve a wagon caravan was done by train.
Which would have been coal, oil, or wood powered... likely coal or oil if they were for long-distance travel.
backFunny. That's the same thing that they said about electric cars
the 1800's.
That was true also of horses. In the 1800s, any serious long-distance
travel that didn't involve a wagon caravan was done by train.
By that, I meant overland travel. Water travel was a different matter altogether (not surprisingly, it involved ships). Also, remember that there
were no highways in the 1800s and for gasoline-powered vehicles it was quite
common for the hired driver to also be the mechanic.
Which would have been coal, oil, or wood powered... likely coal or oil if
they were for long-distance travel.
True, but the point was that if personal vehicles couldn't make the journey, people relied on commercial mass transit. Just as electric vehicles have a limited range today, gasoline-powered vehicles in the late 19th century were similarly limited in range. They were also quite expensive for the time.
Which would have been coal, oil, or wood powered... likely coal or if
they were for long-distance travel.
True, but the point was that if personal vehicles couldn't make the jour people relied on commercial mass transit. Just as electric vehicles have limited range today, gasoline-powered vehicles in the late 19th century similarly limited in range. They were also quite expensive for the time.
Taveling by most commercial mass transit we have today restricts you on where you can travel. It is also often equally, or much more(!), expensive to travel to the places you can go by mass transit vs. driving (well, it was last Summer anyway).
Back then, you were restricted by where the train or stage would go to. Now it is the train (which grew and then shrunk to probably fewer places you can ride to now than in the 1800s), air (expensive and you don't get to see much), and what few bus routes are left.
The most beautiful places I have been in North America are only
accessible by car and foot. Commercial mass transit would not have
taken me to any of those places... only (some of!) the larger cities I drove through in between destinations are reachable by mass transit.
Taveling by most commercial mass transit we have today restricts you on where you can travel. It is also often equally, or much more(!), expensive to travel to the places you can go by mass transit vs. driving (well, it was last Summer anyway).
Back then, you were restricted by where the train or stage would go to. Now it is the train (which grew and then shrunk to probably fewer places you can ride to now than in the 1800s), air (expensive and you don't get to see much), and what few bus routes are left.
Then, as now. Transportation once you arrived at the mass transit destination was up to the passenger, and I'm guessing it was not difficult to come by.
Not directly, no. But it can get you within electric vehicle range of a lot of places.
Taveling by most commercial mass transit we have today restricts you on where you can travel. It is also often equally, or much more(!), expensive to travel to the places you can go by mass transit vs. driving (well, it was last Summer anyway).
I miss Greyhound. Used to be, you could take a bus clear across the continent for about half the cost of a plane ticket...of course, a plane takes 4.5 hours, and a bus takes 4.5 *days*...
I used to travel some by Greyhound. It, and other bus lines, did used to have many more routes, and many of those routes did serve non-urban
areas. The travel time was comparable to driving on one's own. My recollection is that the cost was also reasonable.
Trains used to have routes that went more places, but that was before my time. I think I would have enjoyed that also.
Shaun Buzza wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-
Isn't that a minus for EVs, though? A gas tank has none of these restrictions. I mean, it's not really good for the pumps and filters to completely drain the tank, but there's no need to keep that tank in the 'butter zone'. It won't harm it to fill it up to the point gas is
spilling out, and there's no major, long-term harm in draining it completely. The same can't be said for any lithium-tech battery.
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