• 100 Days

    From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to All on Tuesday, January 19, 2021 13:36:59
    Another caravan of around 1000 Honduran migrants is on its way to the USA border in anticipation of Joe Biden ending Trump-era immigration policies.

    But those policies haven't ended yet, and it seems like anyone, even in Honduras, could either Google that or simply ask a vacationing gringo.

    So why would they come here knowing that the laws haven't changed yet?

    It seems like human traffickers want to test Joe Biden to see if he will make an executive order to help the needy illegals, and it seems like Joe has no choice.

    Liberals: You have all the power in the world right now provided that your
    reps listen to you. What do you want them to do about these caravans? Let the new president handle it?

    Conservatives: What can we even ask for at this point? I would request that illegals be required to sign an agreement stating that they acknowledge that murder is an offense punishable by death or life imprisonment. At least that way we're trying to get them to care about our laws. Otherwise, we're telling them "whatever the law is in Honduras is about the same as here."

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Tuesday, January 19, 2021 13:03:00
    Another caravan of around 1000 Honduran migrants is on its way to the USA border in anticipation of Joe Biden ending Trump-era immigration policies.

    But those policies haven't ended yet, and it seems like anyone, even in Honduras, could either Google that or simply ask a vacationing gringo.

    So why would they come here knowing that the laws haven't changed yet?

    Last I heard, which was a day or two ago, they had not yet crossed the
    border into Guatemala. The Guatemalan authorities are concerned that the
    group has been infiltrated with gang members and other bad actors. The
    report mentioned that even if they did make it across that border, they'd
    have to also cross the Mexican border where plenty of Mexican National Guardsmen were waiting to stop them.

    Now once Biden gets sworn in, who knows, those authorities may suddenly
    stand aside and allow them to pass.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Mike Powell on Wednesday, January 20, 2021 01:34:10
    have to also cross the Mexican border where plenty of Mexican National Guardsmen were waiting to stop them.

    I'm thankful for the recent cooperation with Mexico and now it sounds like Guatemala wants to be helpful too. Those are good signs. It would be
    incredibly ridiculous for Joe Biden to cancel any of the border enhancements.

    The way I come to terms with the threat of a liberal border is I do everything I can to protect my own property. I'm well guarded at home, and I'm vigilant whenever I leave the house.

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  • From Dan Cross@3:770/100 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, January 21, 2021 02:40:09
    On 20 Jan 2021 at 01:34a, Aaron Thomas pondered and said...

    The way I come to terms with the threat of a liberal border is I do everything I can to protect my own property. I'm well guarded at home,
    and I'm vigilant whenever I leave the house.

    What a sad and pathetic way to live, constantly afraid
    of those around you, but unwilling to do anything to
    make society less dangerous.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Dan Cross on Wednesday, January 20, 2021 16:39:40
    The way I come to terms with the threat of a liberal border is I do everything I can to protect my own property. I'm well guarded at home and I'm vigilant whenever I leave the house.

    What a sad and pathetic way to live, constantly afraid
    of those around you, but unwilling to do anything to
    make society less dangerous.

    It's not my job to make society less dangerous. It's my job to make my own property less dangerous. Democrats throw curveballs at poor people like me,
    and it's my job to slug them the best I can.

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  • From Brian Klauss@1:104/116 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, January 20, 2021 16:13:43
    Re: Re: 100 Days
    By: Aaron Thomas to Dan Cross on Wed Jan 20 2021 04:39 pm

    It's not my job to make society less dangerous. It's my job to make my own property less dangerous. Democrats throw curveballs at poor people like me, and it's my job to slug them the best I can.

    What curveball? I'm a lifelong Democrat and I honestly see my life better when a Democrat is in office over a Republican. I still do what I want, I still own guns, I'm still me. What's the difference because you're "poor" as you indicate?

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Wednesday, January 20, 2021 16:15:00
    The way I come to terms with the threat of a liberal border is I do everything >I can to protect my own property. I'm well guarded at home, and I'm vigilant >whenever I leave the house.

    There is a video floating around somewhere that shows both Bill Clinton and Barrack Obama addressing the "law breakers" who illegally cross the border and how this needs to be prevented. Bill's words are as strong as Trump's.

    Interesting how quick some on the left forget.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Brian Klauss on Thursday, January 21, 2021 00:21:38
    It's not my job to make society less dangerous. It's my job to make my property less dangerous. Democrats throw curveballs at poor people like and it's my job to slug them the best I can.

    What curveball? I'm a lifelong Democrat and I honestly see my life
    better when a Democrat is in office over a Republican. I still do what
    I want, I still own guns, I'm still me. What's the difference because you're "poor" as you indicate?

    Wealthy people can afford these things:
    to live in gated communities
    to have security patrol and monitor their property
    to purchase gun permits, guns, ammo, gun safes
    to have 8' fences built around their properties
    to have bars installed on 1st floor windows with one-way screws

    While poor people like me are trying to pay for that stuff, Democrats are making it more challenging with:
    defunding police
    open borders
    legal aid for illegals
    no legal aid for legals
    prioritizing illegal immigrants first
    prioritizing legal immigrants last
    bail reform - making 2 nights in jail illegal
    prison reform - letting them go free due to covid
    revoking gun rights
    legislating the right to detain people for having covid or for refusing vax bailing violent protesters out of jail
    exploiting black people for their protest power

    That's all Democrat stuff.

    Here are some reasons to support Democrats:
    1) Being an illegal immigrant
    2) Being an American-born criminal
    3) Being a drug addict
    4) Wanting a female president
    5) Wanting 1/2 of a white person for president & be able to call em "colored." 6) Maybe some day, because you're so smart and attractive, the ultra-wealthy elite will let you in to their circle, and you will get to live on the moon while the earth is struck by China-owned asteroids.
    7) Kamala's "legalize prostituion" slogan

    I better stop before I get too many people interested.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Mike Powell on Thursday, January 21, 2021 01:46:53
    There is a video floating around somewhere that shows both Bill Clinton and Barrack Obama addressing the "law breakers" who illegally cross the border and how this needs to be prevented. Bill's words are as strong
    as Trump's.

    Obviously there were Democrats interested in securing the border at one point, but those days are gone. Even if Joe wanted to secure the border, he would
    need to seek approval from George Soros first. But for now, George wants the border open.

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  • From Brian Klauss@1:104/116 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, January 20, 2021 21:36:16
    Re: Re: 100 Days
    By: Aaron Thomas to Brian Klauss on Thu Jan 21 2021 12:21 am

    Wealthy people can afford these things:
    to live in gated communities
    to have security patrol and monitor their property
    to purchase gun permits, guns, ammo, gun safes
    to have 8' fences built around their properties
    to have bars installed on 1st floor windows with one-way screws

    How do you define wealthy? Is $50,000, $100,000, $200,000, or more wealthy? Where's the bottom?

    I'm quite content. I don't live in a gated community, I don't have security patrols, I have a guns and ammo, I don't have 8' fences, and I don't have bars installed on my windows.

    I know people that are 2 and 3 times more wealthy than me and they don't have any of that. If that's how you define wealth, you and I need to have a sit down conversation.

    While poor people like me are trying to pay for that stuff, Democrats are making it more challenging with:
    defunding police
    open borders
    legal aid for illegals
    no legal aid for legals
    prioritizing illegal immigrants first
    prioritizing legal immigrants last
    bail reform - making 2 nights in jail illegal
    prison reform - letting them go free due to covid
    revoking gun rights
    legislating the right to detain people for having covid or for refusing vax bailing violent protesters out of jail
    exploiting black people for their protest power

    The term defunding police is a misnomer and I don't support it. I believe there are police forces that are too large and create a struggle in communities.

    Open borders... our borders to the south have never been open. Most illegal immigration in the United States is through visa violations (overstays).

    Everyone is entitled to free legal aid, whether legal or illegal in the United States. If you can't afford it, an attorney will be provided for you.

    Prioritization of illegals, nope, doesn't exist.

    Bail reform, yes, it needs to take place. Bail, like the legal system, favors the rich over the poor. Too many people have remained in custody because they couldn't afford bail.

    Prison reform, COVID had no play in it.

    Revoking gun rights, nope, everyone is still entitled to have a gun unless that right has been removed due to felony charges (that carry a no gun clause).

    There's been no detainment for having COVID. Not getting a VAX is still your right.

    Last two, yeah, sure.

    That's all Democrat stuff.

    Here are some reasons to support Democrats:
    1) Being an illegal immigrant
    2) Being an American-born criminal
    3) Being a drug addict
    4) Wanting a female president
    5) Wanting 1/2 of a white person for president & be able to call em "colored." 6) Maybe some day, because you're so smart and attractive, the ultra-wealthy elite will let you in to their circle, and you will get to live on the moon while the earth is struck by China-owned asteroids.
    7) Kamala's "legalize prostituion" slogan

    Again, what's wrong with wanting a female president?

    The others, come on, be realistic.

    I better stop before I get too many people interested.

    Nah, keep going, I have all night.

    I've never seen so many "reasons" in one place. It's almost hilarious.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Dan Cross on Thursday, January 21, 2021 14:18:07
    Hello Dan,

    The way I come to terms with the threat of a liberal border is I do
    everything I can to protect my own property. I'm well guarded at home,
    and I'm vigilant whenever I leave the house.

    What a sad and pathetic way to live, constantly afraid
    of those around you, but unwilling to do anything to
    make society less dangerous.

    Donald J. Trump made society less dangerous by building 9 miles of wall
    on our southern border with Mexico. He also made society less dangerous
    by separating children from their parents (or legal guardians), thus
    kidnapping those children and putting many of them up for adoption.
    Most of the adults were placed in cages, and given very little to eat
    or drink, as they were never entitled to anything to begin with. Not
    sure how many survived the ordeal and were returned to their country
    of origin.

    Hundreds of these children remain separated from their parents.
    And nobody knows how to find them or re-unite them. Something is
    very wrong with this picture.

    Who is going to raise these children? Where are they to go? Is this
    country so uncaring a place that little children are forcibly taken
    away from their parents and forced to be raised by total strangers
    in a strange land, in a language not their own?

    That was Donald J. Trump's vision of America.

    Good riddance.

    --Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Brian Klauss on Thursday, January 21, 2021 17:41:06
    How do you define wealthy? Is $50,000, $100,000, $200,000, or more wealthy? Where's the bottom?

    Wealthy people are those who can afford those things I listed, and still have money to buy dinner.

    I'm quite content. I don't live in a gated community, I don't have security patrols, I have a guns and ammo, I don't have 8' fences, and I don't have bars installed on my windows.

    How far do you live from the Mexican border? Albuquerque is 268 miles from the Mexican border, and it's the #2 hotspot in the USA for vehicle theft.

    I know people that are 2 and 3 times more wealthy than me and they don't have any of that. If that's how you define wealth, you and I need to
    have a sit down conversation.

    Nobody is scared until they've been victimized. For example, I'm scared of leaving anything the least bit valuable in my car because it's already been burglarized twice. The last thing I want to hear is "let's help the criminal community!"

    The term defunding police is a misnomer and I don't support it. I

    That's adorable that you don't support it - but your party does!

    Open borders... our borders to the south have never been open. Most illegal immigration in the United States is through visa violations

    They're wide open! Have you ever wondered how drugs that don't grow in the USA's cold climate manage to make it to the USA anyway? The same way the
    people do!

    "Most illegal immigration is visa violations." That's hilarious! What else is Anderson Cooper shoving down your throat?

    Everyone is entitled to free legal aid, whether legal or illegal in the United States. If you can't afford it, an attorney will be provided for you.

    When charged with a crime, anyone in the USA can get representation. But don't let that fact mislead you into thinking that anyone can get a lawyer for anything they want.

    If a legal migrant in NY needed a lawyer to help them with renewing a visa, they would have to pay the fees out of pocket. But an ILLEGAL immigrant can
    get those same legal services for free. NY is making it an attractive idea to illegally cross the border, murder & rape your way to NY, then the rest is
    down hill.

    But if you're a legal immigrant wanting to renew your visa, then you'll need
    to be putting some extra hours in at McDonalds.

    Prioritization of illegals, nope, doesn't exist.

    In your town!

    Bail reform, yes, it needs to take place. Bail, like the legal system, favors the rich over the poor. Too many people have remained in custody because they couldn't afford bail.

    So if the bail system is broken, instead of fixing it, we just remove it because that's easier? How about adjusting bail amounts according to income? Too much work?

    Prison reform, COVID had no play in it.

    Had a play in prisoners being released early in California, at least.

    There's been no detainment for having COVID. Not getting a VAX is still your right.

    We're getting there:
    https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2021/a416

    Covid-19 is the answer to liberal prayers.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Thursday, January 21, 2021 13:15:00
    Wealthy people, especially rich politicians, can afford these things:
    to live in gated communities
    to have security patrol and monitor their property
    to have 8' fences built around their properties

    I fixed that first line for you. :)


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to BRIAN KLAUSS on Thursday, January 21, 2021 13:21:00
    The term defunding police is a misnomer and I don't support it. I believe ther
    are police forces that are too large and create a struggle in communities.

    Or which are working with limited resources which strain their ability to
    be effective, and strain their relationships with their communities.

    Again, what's wrong with wanting a female president?

    If that is the #1 requirement, it is wrong. Over the years there have been some female politicians that I feel are qualified and would make good Presidents. They seem to be the ones smart enough not to want that office, too.

    The ones we get left with are washed up former first ladies and airheads
    who very publicly slept their way into politics. One of the latter is now
    just a heartbeat (or dementia diagnosis) away from the Oval Office.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to LEE LOFASO on Thursday, January 21, 2021 13:24:00
    Donald J. Trump made society less dangerous by building 9 miles of wall
    on our southern border with Mexico. He also made society less dangerous
    by separating children from their parents (or legal guardians), thus

    He didn't make us any safer doing the latter as that was a "protection"
    that started in the administration before his.

    "Who build the cages, Joe?!?"

    Joe -- "Shut up, you're only asking that cuz of Trump! Uh, uh... the
    thing..."


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  • From Brian Klauss@1:104/116 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, January 21, 2021 18:05:17
    Re: Re: 100 Days
    By: Aaron Thomas to Brian Klauss on Thu Jan 21 2021 05:41 pm

    How far do you live from the Mexican border? Albuquerque is 268 miles from the Mexican border, and it's the #2 hotspot in the USA for vehicle theft.

    I'm originally from Southern California, 75 miles. :)

    Wasn't fearful then. I traveled to Mexico for six month stretches during the late 90s and early 00s. Maybe it's because I'm 6'5", or maybe it's because I'm a nice guy, but I never had any issues.

    Oh well.

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  • From Brian Klauss@1:104/116 to Mike Powell on Thursday, January 21, 2021 18:19:18
    Re: Re: 100 Days
    By: Mike Powell to BRIAN KLAUSS on Thu Jan 21 2021 01:21 pm

    The ones we get left with are washed up former first ladies and airheads
    who very publicly slept their way into politics. One of the latter is now just a heartbeat (or dementia diagnosis) away from the Oval Office.

    That is the single worst argument I have read from you on here. Making the case that women sleep their way up the chain is not only demeaning to women but grossly inaccurate. Vice President Harris worked her way up... Deputy District Attorney in Alameda County, California then to San Francico as Assistant District Attorney. From there, she became District Attorney for San Francisco. She ran for and became the Attorney General of California, which is quite the feat. In 2017, she ran for and successfully became a Senator for California.

    So, your argument is null and void. She did the work and earned her position.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Mike Powell on Friday, January 22, 2021 02:16:46
    Wealthy people, especially rich politicians, can afford these things:
    to live in gated communities
    to have security patrol and monitor their property
    to have 8' fences built around their properties

    I fixed that first line for you. :)

    Yes you did!

    If I need a fence installed, I can eat PB&J for a few months and pay $5000. If Rep. Eric Swalwell needs more privacy for a romantic evening at home with a Chinese spy, he can whip out a corporate credit card to get that thing installed.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to BRIAN KLAUSS on Friday, January 22, 2021 16:00:00
    The ones we get left with are washed up former first ladies and airheads who very publicly slept their way into politics. One of the latter is now just a heartbeat (or dementia diagnosis) away from the Oval Office.

    That is the single worst argument I have read from you on here. Making the ca
    that women sleep their way up the chain is not only demeaning to women but gr
    sly inaccurate. Vice President Harris worked her way up... Deputy District At
    rney in Alameda County, California then to San Francico as Assistant District torney. From there, she became District Attorney for San Francisco. She ran f
    and became the Attorney General of California, which is quite the feat. In 2
    7, she ran for and successfully became a Senator for California.

    I notice you left out the part where I said it was bad when it was the
    "only" requirement, or that there'd been qualified women who are smart
    enough not to want to be President. I will add that there were also more qualified women that Biden could have chosen but he did not.

    As for the rest, two words: Willie Brown. She had an affair with him and,
    in turn, to her he gave her start in government. No Willie, no Kamala.

    So, your argument is null and void. She did the work and earned her position.

    I am sure Willie would agree she did some "work" to "earn" her first two positions in government/politics. She performed very poorly in the
    primaries, garnering no delegates and dropped out early. She was picked
    after Biden was pressured to pick a "woman of color" as his running mate, despite several other more qualified candidates, many of whom were "women"
    but not "of color." During the campaign, both her and Biden usually
    refused to answer questions after campaign stops. When she did, she
    appeared clueless, just as she did during the most-recent Supreme Court nomination hearings.

    She was also completely clueless debating VP Pence. You know you've done
    bad if, for your supporters, the biggest story coming out of the debate is the fly that landed in your opponent's hair.

    I stand by my evaluation. She is no more qualified than two previous
    lightning rods for Democratic Party derision, Dan Quayle and Sarah Palin. If something happens to Biden, we are very, very screwed.


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  • From Brian Klauss@1:104/116 to Mike Powell on Friday, January 22, 2021 19:20:28
    Re: Re: 100 Days
    By: Mike Powell to BRIAN KLAUSS on Fri Jan 22 2021 04:00 pm

    She was also completely clueless debating VP Pence. You know you've done bad if, for your supporters, the biggest story coming out of the debate is the fly that landed in your opponent's hair.

    Maybe you were watching a completely different debate than I was (and I recorded multiple channels to get varied post-debate commentary). I do believe that Pence was stifled by Trump's narrative helping Harris win the debate. Pence is a strong speaker and debater but he was stuck dealing with the narrative that Trump had his cabinet and administration keep.

    Ultimately, Harris did win the debate, even Fox acknowledged it.

    Sorry.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Brian Klauss on Saturday, January 23, 2021 13:01:58
    Hello Brian,

    The ones we get left with are washed up former first ladies and
    airheads
    who very publicly slept their way into politics. One of the latter is
    now
    just a heartbeat (or dementia diagnosis) away from the Oval Office.

    That is the single worst argument I have read from you on here. Making the
    case that women sleep their way up the chain is not only demeaning to women
    but grossly inaccurate. Vice President Harris worked her way up... Deputy District Attorney in Alameda County, California then to San Francico as Assistant District Attorney. From there, she became District Attorney for San Francisco. She ran for and became the Attorney General of California, which is quite the feat. In 2017, she ran for and successfully became a Senator for California.

    So, your argument is null and void. She did the work and earned her position.

    And Dr. Jill Biden is not a real doctor because she is not a real
    doctor, like Dr. Rand Paul, and Dr. Bill Cassidy, and Dr. Zhivago.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Saturday, January 23, 2021 13:02:13
    Hello Mike,

    Donald J. Trump made society less dangerous by building 9 miles of wall
    on our southern border with Mexico. He also made society less dangerous
    by separating children from their parents (or legal guardians), thus

    He didn't make us any safer doing the latter as that was a "protection" that started in the administration before his.

    "Who build the cages, Joe?!?"

    It was the Trump administration's "zero tolerance" policy to put
    people in cages and kidnap children. Both crimes under international
    law.

    --Lee

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  • From Kevin Koch@1:3634/24 to Lee Lofaso on Saturday, January 23, 2021 09:20:47
    And Dr. Jill Biden is not a real doctor because she is not a real
    doctor, like Dr. Rand Paul, and Dr. Bill Cassidy, and Dr. Zhivago.


    I have 8 college diplomas.


    I saw them in a lake, and picked them up.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to BRIAN KLAUSS on Sunday, January 24, 2021 09:24:00
    Ultimately, Harris did win the debate, even Fox acknowledged it.

    Who won is up to one's opinion, but most of the other stuff I pointed out
    is not opinion.

    Sorry.

    If something happens to Joe, we all will be.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to LEE LOFASO on Sunday, January 24, 2021 09:25:00
    "Who build the cages, Joe?!?"

    It was the Trump administration's "zero tolerance" policy to put
    people in cages and kidnap children. Both crimes under international
    law.

    So the Obama/Biden administration built the cages to keep them empty?
    Seeing as how the photos of the cages in use were taken during the
    Obama/Biden administration, I don't think so.


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  • From Brian Klauss@1:104/116 to Mike Powell on Sunday, January 24, 2021 11:07:33
    Re: Re: 100 Days
    By: Mike Powell to BRIAN KLAUSS on Sun Jan 24 2021 09:24 am

    Ultimately, Harris did win the debate, even Fox acknowledged it.

    Who won is up to one's opinion, but most of the other stuff I pointed out
    is not opinion.

    Mike Pense left with egg on his shoulder. Your view is based upon the fact that a woman could never win against a man. Sadly, for you, he lost to a woman.

    Sorry.

    If something happens to Joe, we all will be.

    No, we won't. The office of President is designed to be for America, something Donald Trump never was. Trump was about enriching himself and his friends. A President is not a totalitarian; Trump was. He put people in executive positions to follow him. This is wrong. You should be able to question your boss, they were afraid to.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Mike Powell on Sunday, January 24, 2021 17:16:04
    Re: 100 Days
    By: Mike Powell to LEE LOFASO on Sun Jan 24 2021 09:25 am

    So the Obama/Biden administration built the cages to keep them empty?

    Those cages predate Obama/Biden. Those cages are not the issue.

    The issue under the Trump administration was the separation of children from their parents under the zero tolerance policy.

    Seeing as how the photos of the cages in use were taken during the Obama/Biden administration, I don't think so.

    Those cages have been in use for years and that is likely to continue regardless of what party is in power.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Alan Ianson on Monday, January 25, 2021 07:04:49
    The issue under the Trump administration was the separation of children from their parents under the zero tolerance policy.

    Let's see the illegals show up at the port of entry to request asylum.

    They walked 2800 miles from Tegucigalpa to Phoenix, but when they got close to the USA border they decided to stop using roads. What sense does that make?

    Joe Biden has a plan to solve all this: Send billions of dollars to the
    corrupt governments that these people are running from, so that they can take better care of their people. Genius right?

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Monday, January 25, 2021 02:17:13
    Re: Re: 100 Days
    By: Aaron Thomas to Alan Ianson on Mon Jan 25 2021 07:04 am

    Joe Biden has a plan to solve all this: Send billions of dollars to the corrupt governments that these people are running from, so that they can take better care of their people. Genius right?

    Is that the plan? I haven't heard this.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Monday, January 25, 2021 16:21:54
    Hello Mike,

    "Who build the cages, Joe?!?"

    It was the Trump administration's "zero tolerance" policy to put
    people in cages and kidnap children. Both crimes under international
    law.

    So the Obama/Biden administration built the cages to keep them empty? Seeing as how the photos of the cages in use were taken during the Obama/Biden administration, I don't think so.

    "They watch in horror as children are torn from their families
    and thrown into cages." ~Michelle Obama

    The former first lady was absolutely correct. No question about it
    when addressing the removal of children from parents at the border.

    What some folks still do not seem to understand is family separation
    as a matter of routine came about because of Trump's "zero tolerance" enforcement policy. Which is exactly what I had stated in my last
    message.

    Obama had no such policy. And neither did any previous president.

    There are still hundreds of children who remain separated from
    their parents as a result of Trump's insane policy. Putting them
    up for adoption would be kidnapping. Refusal to re-unite them
    with their parents would also be seen as kidnapping. But Trump
    supporters were fine with that ...

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Kevin Koch on Monday, January 25, 2021 16:22:42
    Hello Kevin,

    And Dr. Jill Biden is not a real doctor because she is not a real
    doctor, like Dr. Rand Paul, and Dr. Bill Cassidy, and Dr. Zhivago.

    I have 8 college diplomas.

    I saw them in a lake, and picked them up.

    Finder's keepers.

    --Lee

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  • From Brian Klauss@1:104/116 to Aaron Thomas on Monday, January 25, 2021 08:30:16
    Re: Re: 100 Days
    By: Aaron Thomas to Alan Ianson on Mon Jan 25 2021 07:04 am

    Let's see the illegals show up at the port of entry to request asylum.

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with a person or a group requesting asylum in America. The poem, "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door," resonates with me and should resonate with everyone who claims they are American.

    They walked 2800 miles from Tegucigalpa to Phoenix, but when they got close to the USA border they decided to stop using roads. What sense does that make?

    If a group of illegals walk 2000 miles, do you honestly think they'd be welcome by gun wielding "Americans" north of the border? I'd take the dirt road and request asylum the moment I see a border patrol agent.

    Joe Biden has a plan to solve all this: Send billions of dollars to the corrupt governments that these people are running from, so that they can take better care of their people. Genius right?

    We spent billions of dollars on a wall that did nothing. Maybe improving the welfare of these "shithole countries" (to quote Trump) may help them find their way. Quoting the Department of State's website on Honduras, "More than $5.4 million in assistance, including $3 million in IDA humanitarian assistance for risk communication and interventions in water, sanitation, and hygiene; and more than $2.4 million in health assistance to help Honduras respond to the epidemic through laboratory strengthening, improved disease surveillance, and clinical management of COVID-19 caes. Some of these funds will also target infection control in migrant-receiving communities."

    Genius is thinking that third-world countries throughout the world can handle their own problems. Sometimes it is necessary to lend a helping hand to help those who truly need help.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to BRIAN KLAUSS on Monday, January 25, 2021 15:35:00
    Ultimately, Harris did win the debate, even Fox acknowledged it.

    Who won is up to one's opinion, but most of the other stuff I pointed out is not opinion.

    Mike Pense left with egg on his shoulder. Your view is based upon the fact th
    a woman could never win against a man. Sadly, for you, he lost to a woman.

    Uh, no. As I have already pointed out, there are and have been several
    women who I would think would be qualified. Kamala is not one of them. As usual, being an apparent leftly, you bring something into the mix (sexism, racism, some other -ism) that isn't there and never was.

    Maybe you have a subconscious thing against women that you are projecting?

    Sorry.

    If something happens to Joe, we all will be.

    No, we won't. The office of President is designed to be for America, somethin
    Donald Trump never was. Trump was about enriching himself and his friends. A
    resident is not a totalitarian; Trump was. He put people in executive positio
    to follow him. This is wrong. You should be able to question your boss, the
    were afraid to.

    Trump doesn't have anything to do with this discussion. If something
    happens to Biden, there is nothing about Trump that plays into that
    equation.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Monday, January 25, 2021 16:32:00
    So the Obama/Biden administration built the cages to keep them empty?

    Those cages predate Obama/Biden. Those cages are not the issue.

    The issue under the Trump administration was the separation of children from t
    ir parents under the zero tolerance policy.

    Which as photos showed, was being done under Obama/Biden, too. Well, at
    least my definition of separated includes being thrown in a cage. Maybe
    yours does not?

    Those cages have been in use for years and that is likely to continue regardle
    of what party is in power.

    I didn't bring up the cages. Your buddy Lee did, and the issue he brought
    up is the same one you say isn't an issue (although he has changed to match yours now).

    Address it with Lee, not me.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to LEE LOFASO on Monday, January 25, 2021 16:32:00
    There are still hundreds of children who remain separated from
    their parents as a result of Trump's insane policy. Putting them
    up for adoption would be kidnapping. Refusal to re-unite them
    with their parents would also be seen as kidnapping. But Trump
    supporters were fine with that ...

    How do you know they arrived with their parents?

    It took you what... 5 tries to finally start comparing sames with sames
    instead of your misleading little numbers game. Why should anyone take
    your word for this, either?


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Monday, January 25, 2021 16:36:00
    Let's see the illegals show up at the port of entry to request asylum.

    They walked 2800 miles from Tegucigalpa to Phoenix, but when they got close to
    the USA border they decided to stop using roads. What sense does that make?

    We should get a group together and help them walk all the way to British Columbia. I am sure Al will be there to welcome them with open arms
    without a single concern for any dangers they might pose. I am sure that Canada's borders are just as wide open as he says ours should be.

    We will wait until maybe Joe decides they should not be so open, then we
    will see how he suddenly says that is ok.

    Joe Biden has a plan to solve all this: Send billions of dollars to the corrupt governments that these people are running from, so that they can take better care of their people. Genius right?

    US meddling (most recently, SoS Clinton) in that part of the world is what caused the current problems. Clinton took credit for actions that led to
    the destablization of that area in the original prints of her most recent biography. Later prints left that part out. Interesting, no?


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to BRIAN KLAUSS on Monday, January 25, 2021 16:39:00
    There is absolutely nothing wrong with a person or a group requesting asylum in
    America. The poem, "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearnin
    to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the ho
    eless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door," resonates >with me and should resonate with everyone who claims they are American.

    If we reopened places like Ellis Island to inspect immigrants before
    letting them in, hospitalizing the sick until they are better, etc., some
    of us would not have an issue with that.

    We spent billions of dollars on a wall that did nothing. Maybe improving the

    The main purpose of the wall is to force people to cross at border check
    points and not just wherever they want. Even the poem you quoted mentions coming in a door, not through the windows or other openings. Crossing at a border checkpoint means they have someone to immediately claim asylum from.

    Those crossing at place where people aren't are not really looking for
    asylum, though.

    Genius is thinking that third-world countries throughout the world can handle eir own problems. Sometimes it is necessary to lend a helping hand to help th
    e who truly need help.

    Once we've helped our own homeless population, come back again and we will
    talk about sending money elsewhere. Otherwise, thinking we are qualified
    to be helping anyone else with their same problems is the true Genius
    thinking.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Mike Powell on Monday, January 25, 2021 18:22:30
    Re: 100 Days
    By: Mike Powell to ALAN IANSON on Mon Jan 25 2021 04:32 pm

    Which as photos showed, was being done under Obama/Biden, too.

    They show your deflection from the issue.

    Well, at least my definition of separated includes being thrown in a cage. Maybe yours does not?

    The separation of children from their families has resulted in more than 500 being orphaned. They may never be united with their parents again unless a way can be found to re-unite them. That will be a challenge.

    I didn't bring up the cages. Your buddy Lee did, and the issue he brought up is the same one you say isn't an issue (although he has changed to match yours now).

    Address it with Lee, not me.

    If Lee ever brings up pictures of kids in cages I'll bring that up with him.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Mike Powell on Monday, January 25, 2021 18:35:16
    Re: Re: 100 Days
    By: Mike Powell to AARON THOMAS on Mon Jan 25 2021 04:36 pm

    We should get a group together and help them walk all the way to British Columbia. I am sure Al will be there to welcome them with open arms without a single concern for any dangers they might pose. I am sure that Canada's borders are just as wide open as he says ours should be.

    I never said your borders should be wide open. You are (as usual) reading things I never said, again.

    Every nation wants secure borders, including the USA and Canada.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Alan Ianson on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 00:57:18
    Joe Biden has a plan to solve all this: Send billions of dollars to t corrupt governments that these people are running from, so that they take better care of their people. Genius right?

    Is that the plan? I haven't heard this.

    Yes

    https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2021/01/21/joe-biden-four-bill on-dollar-immigration-plan-central-america-239732

    It would make more sense to me if he actually invested the money in businesses in those countries, but it sounds like we're just sending them a check like they won the lottery.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Lee Lofaso on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 00:58:44
    There are still hundreds of children who remain separated from
    their parents as a result of Trump's insane policy. Putting them
    up for adoption would be kidnapping. Refusal to re-unite them
    with their parents would also be seen as kidnapping. But Trump
    supporters were fine with that ...

    Kidnapping them and taking them to the USA to use as money-funnels would be kidnapping too.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Brian Klauss on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 01:14:28
    Let's see the illegals show up at the port of entry to request asylum.

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with a person or a group requesting asylum in America. The poem, "Give me your tired, your poor, your

    The same guy who sexually assaulted Tara Reade is a tool for central
    american child sex trafficking, and it's no surprise.

    Trump and the USSC were both in favor of "Remain in Mexico," but Tara's assailant made it a day 1 priority to assist central americans by providing a pathway to sexual slavery.

    We spent billions of dollars on a wall that did nothing. Maybe
    improving the welfare of these "shithole countries" (to quote Trump) may

    4 Billion dollars is not very much money when you split it up among 4 countries. What's Honduras gonna do with 1 billion dollars? You think Juan Hernandez gives a crap about infants swimming across the Rio Grande? You think he's gonna repair infrastructure?

    If so then why do both? Why allow the caravans to wander in here, even though the new plan is to help them repair their infrastructure?

    Joe Biden is so full of crap! Make central america a better place to live so they stop trying to come here? Ever heard of ethnocentrism?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Mike Powell on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 03:20:07
    US meddling (most recently, SoS Clinton) in that part of the world is
    what caused the current problems. Clinton took credit for actions that led to the destablization of that area in the original prints of her

    I didn't read Hillary's book, but the ousted Honduran President Zelaya was a liberal in a country that can and should benefit from liberal leadership.
    Since they no longer have it, I guess I don't blame them for trying to come here, but I'd sure appreciate it if they brought some sort of ID with them.

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  • From Brian Klauss@1:104/116 to Mike Powell on Monday, January 25, 2021 22:12:37
    Re: Re: 100 Days
    By: Mike Powell to BRIAN KLAUSS on Mon Jan 25 2021 03:35 pm

    Uh, no. As I have already pointed out, there are and have been several women who I would think would be qualified. Kamala is not one of them. As usual, being an apparent leftly, you bring something into the mix (sexism, racism, some other -ism) that isn't there and never was.

    Maybe you have a subconscious thing against women that you are projecting?

    Kamala is more than qualified for the role as Vice President. A "leftie" is against sexism, racism, and other isms and I definitely share no isms to my knowledge. Maybe Biden could've picked someone else, yet to awaken the Progressives throughout America, Kamala was the greatest gift to America to rid ourselves of Trump.

    Trump doesn't have anything to do with this discussion. If something happens to Biden, there is nothing about Trump that plays into that equation.

    Trump drags on in our memory as someone who not only destroyed America's place in the world but the office of the President. The office should be respected and all Trump did was tarnish it more and more each day he remained in office.

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  • From Brian Klauss@1:104/116 to Mike Powell on Monday, January 25, 2021 22:19:45
    Re: Re: 100 Days
    By: Mike Powell to BRIAN KLAUSS on Mon Jan 25 2021 04:39 pm

    Once we've helped our own homeless population, come back again and we will talk about sending money elsewhere. Otherwise, thinking we are qualified
    to be helping anyone else with their same problems is the true Genius thinking.

    The minute you took the term "door" from the poem and used it as a physical manifestation instead of a hypothetical door, I simply can't continue in that discussion framework.

    To the homeless population in American... I don't disagree. A lot of the homeless choose to be homeless. We can offer our assistance to the homeless population but how about this: why don't we make housing more affordable in our communities and solve the problem ahead of time... or, even better, make healthcare affordable by having the government run it... or, wait, how about this, let's stop fighting about the semantics of a problem and actually get rid of Democrats and Republicans in our State houses and Capitol to fix the problem once and for all.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 13:44:38
    Hello Mike,

    Ultimately, Harris did win the debate, even Fox acknowledged it.

    Who won is up to one's opinion, but most of the other stuff I pointed
    out
    is not opinion.

    Mike Pense left with egg on his shoulder. Your view is based upon the
    fact th
    a woman could never win against a man. Sadly, for you, he lost to a
    woman.

    Uh, no. As I have already pointed out, there are and have been several women who I would think would be qualified.

    Sarah Palin was not even fit for office as governor of Alaska,
    quitting after only two years.

    Kamala is not one of them.

    Kamala Harris never quit any of the jobs she was elected to. Until
    after she had been elected to another job. Sarah Palin just couldn't
    wait ...

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 13:44:52
    Hello Mike,

    on 1/25/2021, Mike Powell -> ALAN IANSON supposed :

    So the Obama/Biden administration built the cages to keep them empty?

    Those cages predate Obama/Biden. Those cages are not the issue.

    The issue under the Trump administration was the separation of
    children from their parents under the zero tolerance policy.

    Which as photos showed, was being done under Obama/Biden, too. Well, at least my definition of separated includes being thrown in a cage. Maybe yours does not?

    Those cages have been in use for years and that is likely to continue
    regardless of what party is in power.

    I didn't bring up the cages. Your buddy Lee did, and the issue he brought up is the same one you say isn't an issue (although he has changed to match
    yours now).

    Address it with Lee, not me.

    [from previous message addressed to Mike Powell]

    It was the Trump administration's "zero tolerance" policy to put
    people in cages and kidnap children. Both crimes under international
    law.

    -=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

    You're busted.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 13:44:58
    Hello Mike,

    There are still hundreds of children who remain separated from
    their parents as a result of Trump's insane policy. Putting them
    up for adoption would be kidnapping. Refusal to re-unite them
    with their parents would also be seen as kidnapping. But Trump
    supporters were fine with that ...

    How do you know they arrived with their parents?

    Being separated from their parents or legal guardians means
    they did not come here by themselves.

    It took you what... 5 tries to finally start comparing sames with sames instead of your misleading little numbers game. Why should anyone take your word for this, either?

    Hundreds is not a specific number. And was never meant to be.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 13:45:10
    Hello Aaron,

    The issue under the Trump administration was the separation of children
    from their parents under the zero tolerance policy.

    Let's see the illegals show up at the port of entry to request asylum.

    There are no more illegals in the United States.

    President Joe Biden has gotten rid of all of them by executive order,
    calling them noncitizens.

    Next problem?

    --Lee

    --
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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Lee Lofaso on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 13:52:18
    President Joe Biden has gotten rid of all of them by executive order, calling them noncitizens.

    Taking the illegal out of things is a Democrat specialty.

    You can call them what you want, but I don't think it's cute how they sneak in while other would-be immigrants are dying in their home countries while on a waiting list for an appointment with the US consulate.

    Joe Biden hasn't done anything to help legal immigrants. They aren't exploitable enough.

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  • From Brian Klauss@1:104/116 to Lee Lofaso on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 10:25:52
    Re: 100 Days
    By: Lee Lofaso to Mike Powell on Tue Jan 26 2021 01:44 pm

    Kamala Harris never quit any of the jobs she was elected to. Until
    after she had been elected to another job. Sarah Palin just couldn't
    wait ...

    I can see Russia from my back yard. :)

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 14:00:00
    Address it with Lee, not me.

    If Lee ever brings up pictures of kids in cages I'll bring that up with him.

    He is the one I was responding to when he brought it up.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 13:15:00
    I didn't read Hillary's book, but the ousted Honduran President Zelaya was a liberal in a country that can and should benefit from liberal leadership. Since they no longer have it, I guess I don't blame them for trying to come here, but I'd sure appreciate it if they brought some sort of ID with them.

    IIRC, it was him who asked for assistance. She silent vetoed it, he got
    ousted and everything went from good to bad pretty fast after.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to BRIAN KLAUSS on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 14:01:00
    The minute you took the term "door" from the poem and used it as a physical man
    festation instead of a hypothetical door, I simply can't continue in that discu
    sion framework.

    Because you don't like the idea of anyone being vetted first? Only reason
    it makes any sense not to expect people looking for asylum to funnel
    towards a place (an official border crossing) where they can most easily
    do so. Those would also be the places where they would be the safest.

    ghting about the semantics of a problem and actually get rid of Democrats and R
    publicans in our State houses and Capitol to fix the problem once and for all.

    We were warned about going down the 2-party path... I think we are too far
    past that point now to ever really get back.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to LEE LOFASO on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 13:23:00
    Uh, no. As I have already pointed out, there are and have been several women who I would think would be qualified.

    Sarah Palin was not even fit for office as governor of Alaska,
    quitting after only two years.

    I never brought up Palin as someone more qualified. I did bring up Tulsi Gabbard. I remember that because you and I discussed her.

    Kamala Harris never quit any of the jobs she was elected to. Until
    after she had been elected to another job. Sarah Palin just couldn't
    wait ...

    To my knowledge, Sarah Palin never got a political job (or 2) by screwing around with Willie Brown, either.

    I guess that makes Bill Clinton not qualified, since he quit on Arkansas
    early to run for President?


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to LEE LOFASO on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 13:25:00
    There are still hundreds of children who remain separated from
    their parents as a result of Trump's insane policy. Putting them
    up for adoption would be kidnapping. Refusal to re-unite them
    with their parents would also be seen as kidnapping. But Trump
    supporters were fine with that ...

    How do you know they arrived with their parents?

    Being separated from their parents or legal guardians means
    they did not come here by themselves.

    My point being that some of them were not with parents or legal guardians. Illegal guardians, like child traffickers, maybe, but I forget that is not
    a thing that folks like you worry about.

    Hundreds is not a specific number. And was never meant to be.

    Especially when you are off by hundreds.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 13:35:00
    There are still hundreds of children who remain separated from
    their parents as a result of Trump's insane policy. Putting them
    up for adoption would be kidnapping. Refusal to re-unite them
    with their parents would also be seen as kidnapping. But Trump supporters were fine with that ...

    Kidnapping them and taking them to the USA to use as money-funnels would be kidnapping too.

    Lee doesn't mind human trafficking.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 14:05:00
    I never said your borders should be wide open. You are (as usual) reading thing
    I never said, again.

    Every nation wants secure borders, including the USA and Canada.

    Are you sure about that because I am pretty sure we had this conversation before and that wasn't the answer before? Or is it only that we can have
    them secured now that the bad orange man is gone.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to BRIAN KLAUSS on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 13:43:00
    Kamala is more than qualified for the role as Vice President. A "leftie" is ag
    inst sexism, racism, and other isms and I definitely share no isms to my knowle
    ge. Maybe Biden could've picked someone else, yet to awaken the Progressives t
    roughout America, Kamala was the greatest gift to America to rid ourselves of T
    ump.

    IIRC, this conversation started with how being VP makes her one step away
    from an office she is very much not qualified for.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Mike Powell on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 14:36:15
    Re: Re: 100 Days
    By: Mike Powell to ALAN IANSON on Tue Jan 26 2021 02:05 pm

    Are you sure about that because I am pretty sure we had this conversation before and that wasn't the answer before? Or is it only that we can have them secured now that the bad orange man is gone.

    In a lot of cases you seem to be reading things I never said/thought.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Mike Powell on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 23:10:57
    IIRC, it was him who asked for assistance. She silent vetoed it, he got ousted and everything went from good to bad pretty fast after.

    People from Honduras should actually have high priority in asylum requests. We owe it to them for what Hillary Clinton did. But they should call ahead and be picked up by us - instead of walking here from there.

    That is a sick thing that Joe Biden should put a stop to right now. Who knows how many people are injured or suffering along the way? We could pick them up on buses (and demand that they show documentation too!)

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Mike Powell on Tuesday, January 26, 2021 23:22:06
    Kidnapping them and taking them to the USA to use as money-funnels would kidnapping too.

    Lee doesn't mind human trafficking.

    I know! The opportunity to oppose Trump is more attractive than helping victims.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, January 27, 2021 05:11:36
    Hello Aaron,

    There are still hundreds of children who remain separated from
    their parents as a result of Trump's insane policy. Putting them
    up for adoption would be kidnapping. Refusal to re-unite them
    with their parents would also be seen as kidnapping. But Trump
    supporters were fine with that ...

    Kidnapping them and taking them to the USA to use as money-funnels would be
    kidnapping too.

    The kids the Trump administration was kidnapping were already
    in the USA, having been forcibly separated from their parents or
    legal guardians. Now they are stuck here with nowhere to go.

    --Lee

    --
    Popular vote!

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Alan Ianson on Wednesday, January 27, 2021 05:11:42
    Hello Alan,

    I didn't bring up the cages. Your buddy Lee did, and the issue he
    brought up is the same one you say isn't an issue (although he has
    changed to match yours now).

    Address it with Lee, not me.

    If Lee ever brings up pictures of kids in cages I'll bring that up with him.

    I saw a student lock himself up inside the cage with Mike the Tiger
    at LSU. Fortunately for the student, the tiger was not hungry as it
    had just been fed. It took a while for the men in white suits to get
    the student out of the cage, without waking up the tiger.

    --Lee

    --
    Food for the Fun of It

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Lee Lofaso on Wednesday, January 27, 2021 06:04:37
    The kids the Trump administration was kidnapping were already
    in the USA, having been forcibly separated from their parents or
    legal guardians. Now they are stuck here with nowhere to go.

    What a sad story! But not as sad as kids being kidnapped and sold into slavery!

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Mike Powell on Saturday, January 30, 2021 03:44:58
    Mike Powell : ALAN IANSON formulated the question :
    Address it with Lee, not me.

    If Lee ever brings up pictures of kids in cages I'll bring that up with
    him.

    He is the one I was responding to when he brought it up.

    I saw a guy who locked himself up inside the cage of a live
    bengal tiger at LSU. This was during final exam week. Fortunately,
    the tiger had just been fed and was no longer hungry at the time.
    Did take a while for the folks in white coats to retrieve him.

    --Lee

    --
    Donald Trump! Go away! Racist, sexist, anti-gay!

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to LEE LOFASO on Saturday, January 30, 2021 10:16:00
    I saw a guy who locked himself up inside the cage of a live
    bengal tiger at LSU. This was during final exam week. Fortunately,
    the tiger had just been fed and was no longer hungry at the time.
    Did take a while for the folks in white coats to retrieve him.

    I suspect you were on the inside of the cage looking out when those guys
    came to retrieve you. You're also repeating yourself.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Saturday, January 30, 2021 22:56:39
    Hello Mike,

    I saw a guy who locked himself up inside the cage of a live
    bengal tiger at LSU. This was during final exam week. Fortunately,
    the tiger had just been fed and was no longer hungry at the time.
    Did take a while for the folks in white coats to retrieve him.

    I suspect you were on the inside of the cage looking out when those guys came to retrieve you. You're also repeating yourself.

    You have never met Mike the Tiger. I have. The new one is a
    siberian-bengal mix. Huge tiger. Would play with you like you
    were a rag doll. Eat you in one gulp. But only if he's hungry.

    --Lee

    --
    Probably the best beer in the world

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, February 02, 2021 08:00:59
    On 19 Jan 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

    Another caravan of around 1000 Honduran migrants is on its way to the USA border in anticipation of Joe Biden ending Trump-era immigration
    policies.

    The migrants know that Joe Biden will do nothing to stop them from crossing
    in to the United States, which is why they are heading this way.

    Liberals: You have all the power in the world right now provided that
    your reps listen to you. What do you want them to do about these
    caravans? Let the new president handle it?

    This is not the liberal way, more like they are starving, they just want to provide for their family, let them in you meanie..

    Conservatives: What can we even ask for at this point? I would request that illegals be required to sign an agreement stating that they acknowledge that murder is an offense punishable by death or life imprisonment.

    Why would they do any of that? In-fact, what may happen is that the
    migrants will provide the middle finger as a universal gesture, like we have seen in previous images.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dan Cross on Tuesday, February 02, 2021 08:05:31
    On 21 Jan 2021, Dan Cross said the following...

    On 20 Jan 2021 at 01:34a, Aaron Thomas pondered and said...

    The way I come to terms with the threat of a liberal border is I do everything I can to protect my own property. I'm well guarded at home and I'm vigilant whenever I leave the house.

    What a sad and pathetic way to live, constantly afraid
    of those around you, but unwilling to do anything to
    make society less dangerous.

    There is nothing wrong with being prepared and vigilant at least he refuses
    to be a victim, and if nothing happens then great, carry on.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Gregory Deyss on Saturday, February 06, 2021 21:19:11
    Liberals: You have all the power in the world right now provided that your reps listen to you. What do you want them to do about these caravans? Let the new president handle it?

    This is not the liberal way, more like they are starving, they just want to provide for their family, let them in you meanie..

    Welcome back! Nobody has provided me with a liberal explanation of how to handle it. While we're letting them in now (with adorable appearance tickets) we're still not doing anything about the cartels who smuggle them.

    Obviously being smuggled in is preferred over coming in and getting an appearance ticket, but Joe has yet to do something about children dehydrating in the Arizona desert. In fact, he's welcoming it.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Aaron Thomas on Sunday, February 07, 2021 09:24:03
    On 06 Feb 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

    585
    Liberals: You have all the power in the world right now provided your reps listen to you. What do you want them to do about these caravans? Let the new president handle it?

    This is not the liberal way, more like they are starving, they just w to provide for their family, let them in you meanie..

    Welcome back! Nobody has provided me with a liberal explanation of how to handle it. While we're letting them in now (with adorable appearance tickets) we're still not doing anything about the cartels who smuggle them.

    Liberal explanation is equal to a contradiction, just like a mathematical equation to which there is no logical resolution.



    Obviously being smuggled in is preferred over coming in and getting an appearance ticket, but Joe has yet to do something about children dehydrating in the Arizona desert. In fact, he's welcoming it.

    I am not convinced he could find Arizona on the map or even know what state he was in, even while standing at the gate of the O.K. Corral.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Gregory Deyss on Sunday, February 07, 2021 16:23:25
    I am not convinced he could find Arizona on the map or even know what state he was in, even while standing at the gate of the O.K. Corral.

    I suspect that Joe's ignorance is a charade.

    Let's hope Marjorie's articles of impeachment gets the attention it deserves!

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