• Elitist "Economics"

    From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to RON LAUZON on Friday, February 05, 2021 16:33:00
    On the other side are the people who are actually useful. They produce - products as well as wealth. The Elites *need* those people to keep producing or they have nothing to give the useless classes.

    Some Elites (and less than Elites) do not understand this part of the
    equation. I guess they think the government can keep printing money and
    just hand it out to everyone without there being any economic consequences
    of doing so.

    It's like they never read Atlas Shrugged. Or as Margaret Thatcher said
    "The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of
    other people's money."

    Exactly.

    The morons who are for Sleepy Joe say that they don't want socialism like Venesuela, but that's exactly what they are going for.

    Some don't realize that is what they will get. They need to study
    Venezuela. The downfall happened FAST there. The "Socialist Utopia"
    period did not last long at all, not even a generation... I don't even
    think it was a decade.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Friday, February 05, 2021 16:34:00
    There seems to be a connection among the Clintons, Obama, and Joe. It's not

    Not "seems to be." Try "is."

    To fix the media, we need the GOP to organize better, but in reality, we might >need to adapt to 8 years of brainwash success.

    Fixing the media is a double-edged sword. To you it means making the accountable for what they publish and televise... that opinion should be labeled as such, and "real" news should be presented without bias.

    There are others who would jump on the fix the media bandwagon because they believe it is not slanted enough, or that they have too much of a voice.
    AOC has recently been complaining about the need to fix it.

    Government controlled news would as bad or worse than what we have now.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Mike Powell on Friday, February 05, 2021 20:50:13
    Fixing the media is a double-edged sword. To you it means making the accountable for what they publish and televise... that opinion should be labeled as such, and "real" news should be presented without bias.

    I think it's possible to report news that way. But as you know - the media is
    a business with a target audience, and what will happen to them if they say things their people don't want to hear?

    A government news outlet (in this country) to just state facts about the government would be nice. Not greasy facts like "Trump has been sued for sexual harrassment," but pertinent government facts like "Biden signed a bill. Here are the details of that bill.."

    I'd watch a news like that, feel informed, and wouldn't get too angry when
    they tell me about something awful that the president did.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Saturday, February 06, 2021 10:34:00
    I think it's possible to report news that way. But as you know - the media is a business with a target audience, and what will happen to them if they say things their people don't want to hear?

    If they presented the facts, without bias, I am not sure it would come
    across as something a person didn't want to hear. OTOH, most "news"
    programs and channels are just as much in the entertainment business as
    they are the (supposed) news business. So, they throw the bias in and it either increases the appeal or puts people off.

    A government news outlet (in this country) to just state facts about the government would be nice. Not greasy facts like "Trump has been sued for sexua
    harrassment," but pertinent government facts like "Biden signed a bill. Here are the details of that bill.."

    I think that is what C-SPAN was supposed to be for. At least, it used to
    be a good source of things like that.

    Simple stories like that, without the opinion thrown in (like what the
    "expert" says it will cause), is something that has been missing for
    several years.

    I'd watch a news like that, feel informed, and wouldn't get too angry when they tell me about something awful that the president did.

    Which is why it won't happen. They need us all pissed off and in disarray.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Mike Powell on Saturday, February 06, 2021 20:38:47
    I think that is what C-SPAN was supposed to be for. At least, it used to be a good source of things like that.

    C-SPAN is nice, but it's only for people with cable.

    Everyone with broadcast TV is watching Liberal-Span.

    C-SPAN (or something like it) should be broadcast so people could hear what's happening firsthand.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sunday, February 07, 2021 09:50:00
    C-SPAN is nice, but it's only for people with cable.

    Everyone with broadcast TV is watching Liberal-Span.

    Well, you cannot get CNN or FOXNEWS or most of the others without cable, either. That leaves them with the broadcast networks, which are not great.

    C-SPAN (or something like it) should be broadcast so people could hear what's happening firsthand.

    I cannot disagree there. Now that we have digital TV, they could set
    something like that up as a subchannel for PBS stations.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Mike Powell on Sunday, February 07, 2021 16:41:02
    I cannot disagree there. Now that we have digital TV, they could set something like that up as a subchannel for PBS stations.

    I don't know about the PBS part - they might not appreciate people having the chance to see things in an unbiased way.

    It would be great for guys like me (I don't have cable tv) but the majority of Americans probably just want a recap.

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  • From Vague@1:3603/9999 to Aaron Thomas on Sunday, February 07, 2021 20:14:00
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    I cannot disagree there. Now that we have digital TV, they could set something like that up as a subchannel for PBS stations.

    I don't know about the PBS part - they might not appreciate people
    having the chance to see things in an unbiased way.

    It would be great for guys like me (I don't have cable tv) but the majority of Americans probably just want a recap.

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    PBS is Public Broadcasting System and it is a Federal entitiy, but it's funded almost entirely by small grants and large public donations.

    They, in fact, have a Youtube channel. So does C-Span. PBS News Hour is sent out every night as a free hour-long podcast around 7 or 8 pm, also.

    For some reason, a number of Conservatives in both the House and Senate have wanted PBS shut down for quite a long time, and it was on the chopping block during the last administration.... particularly after running a news piece critical of it.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Vague on Monday, February 08, 2021 05:59:02
    For some reason, a number of Conservatives in both the House and Senate have wanted PBS shut down for quite a long time, and it was on the chopping block during the last administration.... particularly after running a news piece critical of it.

    It's probably better to defund PBS than it is to defund police though.

    PBS news is just like all the the other broadcast TV news; they're Democrat supporters. It probably didn't cost very much for the elitists to buy PBS either.

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  • From Vague@1:3603/9999 to Aaron Thomas on Monday, February 08, 2021 17:40:00
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Vague <=-

    For some reason, a number of Conservatives in both the House and Senate have wanted PBS shut down for quite a long time, and it was on the chopping block during the last administration.... particularly after running a news piece critical of it.

    It's probably better to defund PBS than it is to defund police though.

    Why would you conflate those two things?

    PBS news is just like all the the other broadcast TV news; they're Democrat supporters. It probably didn't cost very much for the elitists
    to buy PBS either.

    Well, there's just no part of this last sentence that is factual. You, literally, said nothing true in that and you know it. Furthermore, you couldn't prove any of that even if you did actually try. Please have more intellectual honesty.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Monday, February 08, 2021 15:36:00
    I cannot disagree there. Now that we have digital TV, they could set something like that up as a subchannel for PBS stations.

    I don't know about the PBS part - they might not appreciate people having the chance to see things in an unbiased way.

    Honestly, PBS used to be pretty unbiased. I still think they (mostly) are
    but it depends on the host. If it is the older lady who is normally on in
    the evenings, it is usually pretty straight forward. Some of the guests
    might not be.

    Now, there is/was a younger fellow of Indian descent on there. Back when
    the 2016 election results became clear, he made an unprofessional remark
    about Americans being stupid. Forget his exactly words now. From that
    point, I figured PBS had lost some of its unbiased cred.

    Now that Biden is President, I should drop back in and check it out again.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Vague on Monday, February 08, 2021 20:10:19
    PBS news is just like all the the other broadcast TV news; they're Democrat supporters. It probably didn't cost very much for the elitis to buy PBS either.

    Well, there's just no part of this last sentence that is factual. You, literally, said nothing true in that and you know it. Furthermore, you couldn't prove any of that even if you did actually try. Please have
    more intellectual honesty.

    I was watching PBS on election day, and on a few other days too. Judy Woodruff and Yamiche Alcindor are as ridiculously biased as Brooke Baldwin or Ana Cabrera.

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  • From Vague@1:3603/9999 to Aaron Thomas on Monday, February 08, 2021 21:18:00
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Vague <=-

    PBS news is just like all the the other broadcast TV news; they're Democrat supporters. It probably didn't cost very much for the elitis to buy PBS either.

    Well, there's just no part of this last sentence that is factual. You, literally, said nothing true in that and you know it. Furthermore, you couldn't prove any of that even if you did actually try. Please have
    more intellectual honesty.

    I was watching PBS on election day, and on a few other days too. Judy Woodruff and Yamiche Alcindor are as ridiculously biased as Brooke
    Baldwin or Ana Cabrera.

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    Or, I guess, just double down on your obvisouly biased and completely subjective statement. You didn't like it, so it must be currupt somehow. lol Ok, Kid. Enjoy that.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Vague on Tuesday, February 09, 2021 09:47:21
    I was watching PBS on election day, and on a few other days too. Judy Woodruff and Yamiche Alcindor are as ridiculously biased as Brooke Baldwin or Ana Cabrera.

    Or, I guess, just double down on your obvisouly biased and completely subjective statement. You didn't like it, so it must be currupt somehow. lol Ok, Kid. Enjoy that.

    Those 4 women give biased new reports.

    "Trump claims that the election is stolen, but according to a survery by some liberal university, which is gospel to us, the election has absolutely not been stolen."

    "Trump claims that he had nothing to do with the murder of a liberal reporter in Florida, but Trump does in fact own property in Florida."

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  • From Vague@1:3603/9999 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, February 09, 2021 20:38:00
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Vague <=-

    I was watching PBS on election day, and on a few other days too. Judy Woodruff and Yamiche Alcindor are as ridiculously biased as Brooke Baldwin or Ana Cabrera.

    Or, I guess, just double down on your obvisouly biased and completely subjective statement. You didn't like it, so it must be currupt somehow. lol Ok, Kid. Enjoy that.

    Those 4 women give biased new reports.

    "Trump claims that the election is stolen, but according to a survery
    by some liberal university, which is gospel to us, the election has absolutely not been stolen."

    "Trump claims that he had nothing to do with the murder of a liberal reporter in Florida, but Trump does in fact own property in Florida."

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    Biased? You mean someone isn't supposed to be biased against the person that raped them? Hmmmm.

    That's fairly clownish of you.

    It's cute how you made up those little fanfic headlines, too.


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