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In case nobody else knows about this, Claudia Tenney(R) finally won the final house election for NY-22. I'm very proud of her. I own property
in her district, and for the first time ever, a rep for me is a Republican. I love it! I am finally getting my money's worth in house votes.
Wait... why do you think you'll get your money's worth? You don't buy politi...... oh.
Oh.
Republican reps are team players.
Republican reps are team players.But we are not playing games.
But we are not playing games.
I do believe he knows this is not a game, but of course you said that to be cute and to attempt to take what Aaron said out of context. Obviously.
Speaking of games; what the left is doing is resembling a circus.
Republican reps are team players.
But we are not playing games.
I'll take that back when the right stands up for law and order and the constitution.
Republican reps are team players.
But we are not playing games.
"Team player" is a phrase we use to describe an employee who is supportive of their company. In this case, Rep Tenney is a team player because she will vote on bills the way that conservatives would expect her to.
The right is a quiet and modest force in the USA. The left has taught us that we're not allowed to have a conservative for president, and we're waiting to see what their gaffe master can do for the greater good of the USA.
You will get a president elected by the people of the USA. That
president may be democrat or republican, or something else if the
people choose something else.
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Hello Alan!
11 Feb 21 22:04, you wrote to Aaron Thomas:
You will get a president elected by the people of the USA. That
president may be democrat or republican, or something else if the
people choose something else.
Yes, it's called democracy. And I'm afraid that this basic
understanding of democracy must first be taught again in broad sections
of the population.
As an outsider, I sincerely hope that the Republican Party at least recommits to these principles and shakes off its dependence on Trump
and his fanbase.
We in Europe (Germany and Austria) have had to pay much more dearly for this lesson after the Nazi dictatorship.
But we are not playing games.
I do believe he knows this is not a game, but of course you said that be cute and to attempt to take what Aaron said out of context. Obviou
The right is and has been playing like it was a game.
It's got nothing to do with Aaron.
Speaking of games; what the left is doing is resembling a circus.
You've got your left and right confused.
I'll take that back when the right stands up for law and order and the constitution.
Republican reps are team players.
But we are not playing games.
"Team player" is a phrase we use to describe an employee who is supportive of
their company. In this case, Rep Tenney is a team player because she will vote on bills the way that conservatives would expect her to.
Republican reps are team players.
But we are not playing games.
"Team player" is a phrase we use to describe an employee who issupportive
of their company. In this case, Rep Tenney is a team player because shewill
vote on bills the way that conservatives would expect her to.
I hope Tenney has the smarts to work toward the common good of the people in
her district, regardless of whether they are democrat or conservative.
You will get a president elected by the people of the USA.
That president may be democrat or republican, or something else if the people choose something else.
I'll take that back when the right stands up for law and order and the constitu
ion.
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The right is a quiet and modest force in the USA. The left has taught
us that we're not allowed to have a conservative for president, and
we're waiting to see what their gaffe master can do for the greater
good of the USA.
As an outsider, I sincerely hope that the Republican Party at least recommits to these principles and shakes off its dependence on Trump and his fanbase.
Secondly what part of the American Constitution are alluding to that is not being executed, this Schiff show is an embarrassment to these proceedings.
Kinda like Marjorie Greene?
We the people chose Al Gore as POTUS, as shown by the popular vote.
But the popular vote counted for nothing ...
The US left sure as hell doesn't.
their company. In this case, Rep Tenney is a team player because she vote on bills the way that conservatives would expect her to.
Putting party above people is sick and disgusting.
Replacing party with an orange clown is even worse.
IHMO: That's Biden. He starts by "Joe being Joe" and messing up and
doing unpopular things. Then they 25th Amendment him because he's "mentally incompetant" redirecting all the bad feelings toward his administration and Kamala gets in (most likely to screw up even worse).
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But we are not playing games.
I do believe he knows this is not a game, but of course you said that be cute and to attempt to take what Aaron said out of context. Obviou
The right is and has been playing like it was a game.
It's got nothing to do with Aaron.
Speaking of games; what the left is doing is resembling a circus.
You've got your left and right confused.
For starters I am a Conservative, and a member of the Conservative
Party, this means that I am not a Republican and certainty not a
Democrat. Clearly I know my right from left and know not to confuse the two.
I'll take that back when the right stands up for law and order and the constitution.
Secondly what part of the American Constitution are alluding to that is not being executed, this Schiff show is an embarrassment to these proceedings.
I think you might want to get yourself a copy of the American
Constitution Eh?
she LL> AT> vote on bills the way that conservatives would expect hertheir company. In this case, Rep Tenney is a team player because
to.
Putting party above people is sick and disgusting.Replacing party with an orange clown is even worse.
Everybody does it not just icky republicans.
You were fine with it when Tenney's predacesor was voting with Pelosi like a
robot, but now that a republican robot has taken his place you're calling
it "sick and disgusting."
When reps are loyal to their party they ARE being loyal to the people who >voted them in. I voted for Republican puppetry and I expect nothing less.
Republican senators seem to need clarity whether or not Donald Trump's impeachment is constitutional.
It was Nancy Pelosi who rushed this forward in an attempt to get Donald Trump.
Bill Clinton was elected president with Democrats in charge of
both houses of Congress. Two years later, both houses of Congress
were controlled by Republicans, who remained in control for the
rest of Clinton's two terms in office.
It's easy to imagine other Democrats turning against Joe, but I can't imagine liberal American voters turning against him.
It's easy to imagine other Democrats turning against Joe, but I can't
imagine liberal American voters turning against him.
I could, if he doesn't deliver on some of the more leftist things that are
on their wish list.
Republican senators seem to need clarity whether or not Donald Trump's
impeachment is constitutional.
What is there to clarify by these Republican senators who joined this
fallacy? Clearly the number needed by the senate will NEVER be reached. So what's the point with this endeavor?
Therefore it is a complete waste of money and time.
These Republicans who voted for this will have to answer to their
constituents for what they have done and not done perspectively.
Bill Clinton was elected president with Democrats in charge of
both houses of Congress. Two years later, both houses of Congress
were controlled by Republicans, who remained in control for the
rest of Clinton's two terms in office.
It's not the president's fault, but I sorta blame Trump for what happened.
He
inadvertantly put pressure on the media to brainwash America into supporting >the Confederacy. People probably voted against all Republicans on the ballot >because of TDS.
But congressional candidates run weak campaigns all too often.
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It's easy to imagine other Democrats turning against Joe, but I can't imagine liberal American voters turning against him.
I posted a mesage a while back asking our liberal friends to tell us
what Joe's done for them or what he's expected to do, but that didn't tickle any bellies. He's the cure for TDS and that's about it.
What is there to clarify by these Republican senators who joined this fallacy?
Clearly the number needed by the senate will NEVER be reached.
So what's the point with this endeavor?
Therefore it is a complete waste of money and time.
The problem is not and never was Nancy Pelosi. You don't like her, I get that.
But this is not her doing. Donald Trump got himself to where he is now.
Acquitted is where he got himself.
To make sure that Trump is not ever again a viable candidate. IMHO, he did well enough taking care of that on his own, even before 1/6.
Acquitted is where he got himself.
Trump didn't do that. Senate republican's did that.
Why would you think that Trump did enough to make himself not viable in 2024. I like how spoke with his mannerisms and how he called out the media for they actually are on so many occasions.
I did not mind his tweeting, I understand that this was one of primaryWhy would you think that Trump did enough to make himself not viable in I like how spoke with his mannerisms and how he called out the media for actually are on so many occasions.
I was specifically referencing his exit from office. Aside from his excessive use of social media, I thought he would make a viable candidate again until then. Right or wrong, he made a lot of fodder for any future opponents to use against him.
Why would you think that Trump did enough to make himself not viable in I like how spoke with his mannerisms and how he called out the media for actually are on so many occasions.
I was specifically referencing his exit from office. Aside from his excessive use of social media, I thought he would make a viable candidate again until then. Right or wrong, he made a lot of fodder for any future opponents to use against him.I did not mind his tweeting, I understand that this was one of primary
means to get his message out w/out getting it twisted by the media. His past tweets could also be a matter of record which could also used in the future, to a pro-trump means.
He was much more than a viable candidate, he was the only candidate as there no other Republican challenger.
As I'm sure that you are aware that Mr. Trump beat out 16 people on the stage, to become the only man standing. Even if this was a non-point, He was still the man to vote for. His promise for America First Agenda, and his promise to build the economy, and build the wall.
Making a difference with having a Law & Order, and his support for the Police. Always putting the American People First.
Going to Washington and not collecting a salary.
Admired by many Millions his rallies has thousands and not six like Biden.
For Helping the African-American community with urban initiatives and funding Optimism African-American colleges for the next 10 years.
Reaching the lowest unemployment 50 years among many.
Excelling at keeping of campaign promises.
Vouch for him I will because the results can been seen - historically.
Eventually in 2024 he will be back. He was quite
Refreshing from the Obama years.
MAGA FOREVER!
I did not mind his tweeting, I understand that this was one of primary means to get his message out w/out getting it twisted by the media. His pas
Either way, still acquitted... again.
Now maybe congress will get back to more important things, like the pandemic and all of the executive orders.
The primary means of communicating to the public is through the press secretary. The media may choose to twist the language but the message of record remained in the hands of the press secretary. Any change or commentary would still require the exact words from the secretary.
Trump leveraged Twitter to ensure no questions could be asked of him. Questioning your leadership is key function of a democracy.
He was much more than a viable candidate, he was the only candidate as no other Republican challenger.
Trump became the only viable candidate because the other candidates couldn't challenge the money thrown behind him and his message. The
other candidates couldn't outspend him, they couldn't out communicate
him, and they simply didn't have the means as they remained "traditionalist" compared to his "out of left field" way of campaigning.
As I'm sure that you are aware that Mr. Trump beat out 16 people on the stage, to become the only man standing. Even if this was a non-point, H still the man to vote for. His promise for America First Agenda, and hi promise to build the economy, and build the wall.
Again, he beat out 16 other candidates through financial and method. He had no agenda and no plan, only a message that he never followed through on.
Making a difference with having a Law & Order, and his support for the Police. Always putting the American People First.
Donald Trump put himself first. He did not value the American people;
he only wanted a way to enrich himself and his 1%ers. If you think he
put "America First", look at his response to COVID-19, Puerto Rico, our soldiers in Iraq, etc., etc.
Not collecting a salary was a means of saying, "I'm here for you." ItGoing to Washington and not collecting a salary. BK>
was another con.
He appealed to right-wing, neo-conservative, hyper-religious, racist, fact-fearing fringe groups. His rallies were a joke. They were
designed to pump Trump up, not the crowd. The minute less people
showed, the harder it was for him to convey his message.
Reaching the lowest unemployment 50 years among many.On the coat-tails of Obama.
Excelling at keeping of campaign promises.
Nope.
Oh yes, a white supremist in the White House enriching himself, his family, and his friends.
MAGA FOREVER!
America is already great. Now we have to spend the next couple years unscrewing Trump's mistakes.
Sorry. I realize you're a Donald Trump fanboy, but the facts speak for themselves. Donald Trump was never for you or the country. He was only out for himself. Facts.
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Going to Washington and not collecting a salary.
Not collecting a salary was a means of saying, "I'm here
for you." It was another con.
He was much more than a viable candidate, he was the only candidate as there >no other Republican challenger.
As I'm sure that you are aware that Mr. Trump beat out 16 people on the stage, >to become the only man standing. Even if this was a non-point, He was still the
man to vote for. His promise for America First Agenda, and his promise to build
the economy, and build the wall.
Refreshing from the Obama years.
Trump was not convicted and that says a lot.
I think we talked about this before, as much as I really liked him as a Canuck >outsider, his use of social media was a tad "much" and had he of just
focused on things a bit more with the proverbial nose to the grindstone he >likely would've been re-elected by a landslide.
You mentioned before about how he really didn't have a choice due to the nonstop BS media machine... maybe you are correct but another choice would've
Trump's salary of $400,000 was like pocket change to him. To put that
in context of a middle income American with an income of $75,000 per
year, it would like giving $30 to some charity. So don't make a big
deal over it -- the publicity value was worth more to him than the
monetary value.
Trump was not convicted and that says a lot.
Yes, that people shouldn't be tried in the Press.
Trump was not convicted and that says a lot.
Yes, that people shouldn't be tried in the Press.
Trumps acquittal in the senate is not fact based, it's political.
Trump was not convicted and that says a lot.
Trumps acquittal in the senate is not fact based, it's political.
As was the impeachment to begin with.
I've always felt that Trump has something on all the Senators and Representatives within the Republican Party. Whether it's financial or personal, he has something on them. Maybe he's Nixonesque and recorded everything whenever he pushed his Diet Coke button.
Donald Trump was impeached because of his bad behaviour.
Donald Trump was impeached because of his bad behaviour.
Actually Trump was impeached because of Trump derangement syndrome and of course those who are part of the swamp not wanting there power challenged.
Trumps acquittal in the senate is not fact based, it's political.
As was the impeachment to begin with.
Donald Trump was impeached because of his bad behaviour.
The process is political but the reasons are not.
Donald Trump was impeached because of his bad behaviour.
Actually Trump was impeached because of Trump derangement syndrome and of course those who are part of the swamp not wanting there power challenged.
Avoid Al, he's a Canadian completely obsessed with Trump.
The media may choose to twist the language?
They attempted at nearly turn to twist his msg w/ every chance that they got.
When I speak of the historical one can access to what he said with a few keystrokes at the keyboard via the internet.
How did Trump leverage Twitter when he is no longer a member.
I do not recall Republicans pissing and moaning every time Trump said or did something. The whining and the but hurt was primary on the left.
Trump took no PAC money and also donated to many of the people on that stage in the past. Trump primarily funded his campaign from his own recourses and from people like me who supported and believed in his message.
No Agenda? Make America Great Again, if America was great to the Trump Standard then Mr. Trump never would of entered the Presidential Race.
It might of been great to you but to Trump and to people like being great is not great enough. Obama created large amount division, remember the BLM, movement this started on Obama's watch not Trumps. The United States being ripped off w/ lop sided trade deals, tariffs also a problem.
How is America being used as the worlds piggy bank make America great.Actually, we owe more to China than any other country.
How does one enrich himself if they are not paid.
Must be a socialist idea that I am not familiar with...
Maybe you should fire up youtube.com and listen again to his inauguration speech. He spoke of transferring of giving the power back to the people within 2:15 (which completely obliterates you) of his 17:48 speech.
It was a very uplifting speech for all Americans.
Don't even get me started w/ Puerto Rico and the nasty things that clueless leadership said and did, remember the supply gate.
Yeah, I wouldn't beat on your chest to hard over Puerto Rico.
Many people got lifted in their wages because of the change w/ the lower tax code. Working the same hours a week but and taxed less, thus I made more money and so did everyone else as well, if you want to be ungrateful thats your business.
Your attacking what you can not understand and that is your fault, not mine. I went to his rally in Albany, New York and I can tell you I was quite pumped up. There were people like you waiting outside w/ real hate, in-fact one black lady looked right me and called me a Nazi. I told her lady,
"If I was a Nazi, you would be already dead." and thats the truth.
Wrong! Is that why Obama said with frustration that these jobs are not coming back, what does Mr. Trump have a magic wond?
So says you A never Trumper with a severe case of TDS.
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Just to be clear.
Trump derangement syndrome (TDS) is a pejorative term usually for criticism or negative reactions to United States President Donald Trump that are perceived to be irrational, and have little regard towards Trump's actual policy positions, or actions undertaken by his administration.
Irrational... yeah that sums it up in one word.
Take a look at Pictures of Trump before he was President he can be seen in photos with the Rev. Al Sharpton as well as Jessie Jackson.
Going backwards is not how I would define forward momentum.
Your facts are Fake News.
If you want to call me a Fanboy, that is your right,
I see my self as a Patriot, by definition this means that I'm not a socialist nor am I a communist Brian....
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Maybe he's Nixonesque and recorded
everything whenever he pushed his Diet Coke button.
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It's quite a phenomenon but I just don't get the allure.
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Donald Trump was impeached because of his bad behaviour.
Actually Trump was impeached because of Trump derangement syndrome and
of course those who are part of the swamp not wanting there power challenged.
Donald Trump had other vectors to convey his message--Hannity, FOX News, Newsmax, OANN, etc., etc. Republicans outwardly wouldn't say anything because that'd go against the party, against the man, but inwardly,
they'd loathe every
If you recall, Donald Trump always cared about ratings. I can't count
the number of times Trump said, "I got the best ratings last night" or "That segment on Fox had the best ratings ever." Being the president is the number one popularity contest in the United States.
It might of been great to you but to Trump and to people like being gre not great enough. Obama created large amount division, remember the BLM movement this started on Obama's watch not Trumps. The United States be ripped off w/ lop sided trade deals, tariffs also a problem.
White supremacists flocked to Donald Trump's banner. The division was sewn by him. Obama may have created division, but that division was intensified by Trump.
Joe Biden is boring and that is even if you can understand a word what
the man says clearly.
It's so good to have a coherent president again!
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Joe Biden is boring and that is even if you can understand a word wha the man says clearly.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Trump couldn't even finish a complete sentence! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahaha!
It's so good to have a coherent president again!What's coherent about ignoring the pandemic to help illegal immigrants? Joe forgot that it's contagious, man.
You're too easily amused, no matter. I'm glad this could make you laugh among other matters that you could be dealing with, that are no laughing matter.
When Mr. Trump spoke it was with clarity. You might of not liked what he said, many people just like you, also did not. The clarity of his words were never in question by anyone before today, not even the liberal
media has ever said a word suggesting that Mr. Trump was mumbling, stuttering or getting his words jumbled up.
What's coherent about ignoring the pandemic to help illegal immigrants?
Joe forgot that it's contagious, man.
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Donald Trump was impeached because of his bad behaviour.
Actually Trump was impeached because of Trump derangement syndrome and
of course those who are part of the swamp not wanting there power challenged.
Re: Re: Tenney Wins
By: Mike Powell to ALAN IANSON on Sun Feb 14 2021 09:45 am
Acquitted is where he got himself.
Trump didn't do that. Senate republican's did that.
Re: Acquitted
By: Mike Powell to ALAN IANSON on Tue Feb 16 2021 01:24 pm
Trumps acquittal in the senate is not fact based, it's political.
It's already here. Millions of Americans have it. Keeping people out accomplishes nothing if people are going from a place with a lower infection rate to a place with a higher infection rate.
When Mr. Trump spoke it was with clarity. You might of not liked what said, many people just like you, also did not. The clarity of his wor were never in question by anyone before today, not even the liberal media
He could barely finish a coherent sentence, constantly getting
sidetracked by other thoughts. And there were PLENTY of times that he
said something VERY clearly, only to claim later (either himself or through his press secretary) that he didn't say what people heard him
say. Attempting to gaslight people was a particular specialty of his,
and it worked much better on his base than on those who disagreed with
Some of the detainees are from Iran, and Iran has an infection rate 5xThe US has one of the highest infection rates in the world. Mexico is
as high as the USA (according to your pals at CNN.)
Which place with a low infection rate are you talking about?
You're a like guy who comes into a room on the tail end of aUh, no, sorry. I was here for every single minute of the Trump presidency. I heard him speak. I heard what he had to say.
conversation and then makes the claim that you are aware of everything that was said.
The primary reasoning as to why there was clarification through Trumps press secretary is because the media deliberately took out of context of what Mr.Trump said; this was to try create a gotcha moment that did not exist.In some extreme cases, perhaps, but that was certainly not the norm. The
The media did this for several reasons.Trump called them Fake News because he didn't like what they were reporting, not because what they were reporting was dishonest or false. In many cases, what Trump decried as "Fake News" turned out to be very true.
1, To create uncertainty and doubt within the minds of the American people. 2. To make the case that he didn't belong or that he was illegitimate. Mr. Trump was very much aware of this attempt by the
media, which is why he called them out many times as dishonest as well
as labeled them as Fake News.
illegitimate. Mr. Trump was very much aware of this attempt by the
media, which is why he called them out many times as dishonest as well
as labeled them as Fake News.
Which place with a low infection rate are you talking about?The US has one of the highest infection rates in the world. Mexico is currently approximately 200 days - more than 6 months - behind the US in COVID cases by population. I would suspect that very, very few of the detainees are from Iran; that's a ridiculaous argument.
So you think maybe most people trying to enter from Mexico are Mexican? Read up on that, because that's you being incredibly misinformed. Mexico isn't the piece of trash that liberals make it out to be. Mexicans are
not desperate to enter the USA (unless they're wanted by police in Mexico.)
1. I never said that Mexico was a piece of trash.
2. The one example you gave of non-Mexican undocumented immigrants was some Iranians, and I said that I doubted that very many of them were Iranian. If you have proof that most of the undocumented immigrants are Iranian, please present it; I'd love to see it.
It's hilarious to ask me to prove their nationality when they are obviously undocumented. Good one!How do we know these guys are Iranian? Does that mean that they're documented?
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