• laws

    From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Sunday, March 21, 2021 11:33:00
    LOL - yeah - I had to read this three times to catch the sarcasm... LOL
    I've been out of town all week so AFK, and catching up on Jeff's messages,
    so I was reading this with a leftist slant. :-D

    Yes, after reading some of the messages, here , I often have
    to restrain myself from going to the store to find brands that trigger me
    so I can try to get them cancelled. Sometimes I even get the urge to cut
    off all of my power and freeze to death.

    But I quickly catch myself every time.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Sunday, March 21, 2021 11:33:00
    It also states that a full time minister can NOT hold public office because their job should be carrying on God's work! I love it!

    That could also be to enforce separation of church and state. I could see
    that becoming a problem in a more rural area, especially back in the day.

    As you have phrased it, it also insinuates that being in politics is not
    God's work. That part is pretty funny and possibly correct. :)


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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@1:116/18 to MIKE POWELL on Monday, March 22, 2021 09:57:00

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmIg6pE9oAw

    Hey - got the link to copy!

    Mike - check that out...



    Mike Powell wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    LOL - yeah - I had to read this three times to catch the sarcasm... LOL
    I've been out of town all week so AFK, and catching up on Jeff's messages, so I was reading this with a leftist slant. :-D

    Yes, after reading some of the messages, here , I often have
    to restrain myself from going to the store to find brands that trigger
    me so I can try to get them cancelled. Sometimes I even get the urge
    to cut off all of my power and freeze to death.

    But I quickly catch myself every time.

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@1:116/18 to MIKE POWELL on Monday, March 22, 2021 10:01:00
    Mike Powell wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    It also states that a full time minister can NOT hold public office because their job should be carrying on God's work! I love it!

    That could also be to enforce separation of church and state. I could
    see that becoming a problem in a more rural area, especially back in
    the day.

    I don't think so... I think 'separation of church and state' is not used in the context most people think... I hear it used as a way to prevent "Believers" from having an opinion about government, but I think it is to prevent government from having an opinion (and laws) about personal choices when it comes to religion.

    But anyway...

    As you have phrased it, it also insinuates that being in politics is
    not God's work. That part is pretty funny and possibly correct. :)

    YEP!!! LOL

    Can't copy/paste just the relavant part, but check this link and look
    at article IX.

    https://www.capitol.tn.gov/about/docs/tn-constitution.pdf





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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Monday, March 22, 2021 22:15:59
    On 22 Mar 2021, JIMMY ANDERSON said the following...
    I don't think so... I think 'separation of church and state' is not used in the context most people think... I hear it used as a way to prevent "Believers" from having an opinion about government, but I think it is
    to prevent government from having an opinion (and laws) about personal choices when it comes to religion.

    "Separation of Church and State" primarily refers to using the law to enforce religious doctrine. There is some overlap; for example "Thou shalt not kill" also makes sense as a law because it's universal to most religions. However, "Remember the Sabbath, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor, and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God." does not, because it's specific to one (or two) religions.

    Think of it as "Separation of Mosque and State." How would you feel in that case?

    This wasn't the case in the Pre-1st-Amendment colonies. Often church attendance, sometimes an hours-long affair, was mandated (and often followed
    by mandatory military drills for the men).

    It also refers, less commonly, to religious leaders using their positions of religious authority to tell their congregants how to vote. Keep in mind that
    in some cases failure to comply with church authority could be punished by physical punishment or excommunication.

    Jeff.

    "For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." -- H. L. Mencken, who indeed was a racist thereby proving himself right.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Tuesday, March 23, 2021 14:28:00
    I don't think so... I think 'separation of church and state' is not used in >the context most people think... I hear it used as a way to prevent "Believers"
    from having an opinion about government, but I think it is to prevent >government from having an opinion (and laws) about personal choices when it >comes to religion.

    I think it is supposed to be some of the latter, but also some of not
    having the church run the government and vise-versa.


    As you have phrased it, it also insinuates that being in politics is
    not God's work. That part is pretty funny and possibly correct. :)

    YEP!!! LOL

    Can't copy/paste just the relavant part, but check this link and look
    at article IX.

    https://www.capitol.tn.gov/about/docs/tn-constitution.pdf

    :D


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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@1:116/18 to MIKE POWELL on Tuesday, March 23, 2021 22:27:00
    Mike Powell wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-

    I don't think so... I think 'separation of church and state' is not used in
    the context most people think... I hear it used as a way to prevent
    "Believers"
    from having an opinion about government, but I think it is to prevent
    government from having an opinion (and laws) about personal choices when it
    comes to religion.

    I think it is supposed to be some of the latter, but also some of not having the church run the government and vise-versa.

    Agreed. I have heard people say "seperation of church and state" in an
    attempt to make someone that is pro-life, for example, NOT take that
    stance because it is based on a religious belief that ALL life is
    sacred. Since it's based on religion, shouldn't affect how you vote.
    That's the part I disagree with.




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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Wednesday, March 24, 2021 13:26:00
    I think it is supposed to be some of the latter, but also some of not having the church run the government and vise-versa.

    Agreed. I have heard people say "seperation of church and state" in an attempt to make someone that is pro-life, for example, NOT take that
    stance because it is based on a religious belief that ALL life is
    sacred. Since it's based on religion, shouldn't affect how you vote.
    That's the part I disagree with.

    I cannot disagree with that.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Thursday, March 25, 2021 14:09:16
    Hello Mike,

    I think it is supposed to be some of the latter, but also some of not
    having the church run the government and vise-versa.

    Agreed. I have heard people say "seperation of church and state" in an
    attempt to make someone that is pro-life, for example, NOT take that
    stance because it is based on a religious belief that ALL life is
    sacred. Since it's based on religion, shouldn't affect how you vote.
    That's the part I disagree with.

    I cannot disagree with that.

    I am whole life, not pro-life. State-sponsored terrorism
    (the death penalty) is something nobody on this planet should
    agree with. Whole life means life beginning at the moment of
    conception to the moment of natural death. There is nothing
    whole life when someone is murdered in my name.

    --Lee

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