• Right(?) to Life 9

    From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Jimmy Anderson on Saturday, April 03, 2021 19:11:41
    Hello Jimmy,

    I'm talking about UNWANTED pregnacy.

    Nuns who are pregnant have a home for pregnant nuns to go to.
    Most other women who are pregnant have no such kind of home to
    go to.

    Why do they have to go anywhere?

    Where else would a nun go? It is not like she could stay at
    the priest's rectory.

    I don't see what that has to do with abortion as birth control...

    Both abortion and contraception are sins, according to the RCC.

    But at least they have the Y. And then there are those
    who have no home to go at all. Are you suggesting they terminate
    their pregnancies?

    If I'm anti-abortion, why in the world would I suggest anyone
    terminate a pregnancy?

    Doctors advise patients. Does that make doctors anti-abortion?
    Suppose a woman is pregnant due to rape or incest? You are telling
    me that is not a legitimate reason why a woman should not terminate
    that baby? Sounds kinda sick to me ...

    Sometimes a physician advises his patient it might be best
    for her to end her pregnancy. For her own well-being.

    Yep - for medical reasons, it happens. My wife had an aunt that
    had to abort. The baby was definately going to be stillborn and
    the aunt had an extremely high chance of death if she went full
    term, so they aborted. It wasn't pleasant, and it was still VERY
    traumatic, but was a medical nessisity.

    Decisions are made between doctors and patients. Not for me to
    decide. Or for others. And for government to dictate what others
    have to do, or prohibit what others can do? That is not the kind
    of government I want.

    Do you know the percentage of total deaths that are medically
    nessasary vs those for convience sake?

    Who am I to say what is best for a woman who is pregnant?
    I am a guy, who tries to do what is best for my own self.
    Especially since I am not a woman, and not likely ever to
    become one anytime soon, if ever.

    What is best for the unborn child? Who will speak up for him/her?

    I am not a doctor. I am also not a woman. So who am I to say
    what is best - for both mother and child?

    Isn't that why aborion is performed almost in every case? Cause the baby is >> not wanted?

    There may be many reasons why a woman has an abortion. Could be
    she was raped. Could be a doctor advised to do so for her own good.
    But who am I to judge her for the choices she makes? We are not
    her masters. And we are not gods who can condemn her to hell for
    the choices she makes, which may be very sound.

    Suppose the woman's father tells her not to get an abortion?
    Suppose the woman's father is the father of the woman's baby?
    And you are telling me the woman would be committing a sin
    if she gebts an abortion? Rape (and incest) is a crime of violence.
    Nothing good about it. Being forced to carry that child would
    be even worse. Doesn't sound like a very loving god to me to
    force any woman to continue such a pregnancy.

    Nuns who are pregnant go to a home for pregnant nuns.
    Most nuns want, and do, have their babies. What makes
    you think pregnant nuns would not want to have a baby?

    Then in that case there is no abortion. I'm fine with that.

    And what about those pregnant nuns who have been raped by priests?
    Send them to a nunnery? What a joke. The Bard's use of the word
    "nunnery" was reference to "whorehouse". Nuns are no better than
    prostitutes, meant to serve priests.

    Women who are pregnant have a home to go. And most want
    to have a baby, rather than have an abortion.

    Then why are we talking about that in relation to abortion?
    I'm not following...

    Where do pregnant women who are homeless go?

    --Lee

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@1:116/18 to LEE LOFASO on Saturday, April 03, 2021 18:27:00
    Lee Lofaso wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

    Nuns who are pregnant have a home for pregnant nuns to go to.
    Most other women who are pregnant have no such kind of home to
    go to.

    Why do they have to go anywhere?

    Where else would a nun go? It is not like she could stay at
    the priest's rectory.

    Okay...

    I don't see what that has to do with abortion as birth control...

    Both abortion and contraception are sins, according to the RCC.

    Okay - as I said in the other message, doesn't affect me - I'm not
    RC.

    If I'm anti-abortion, why in the world would I suggest anyone
    terminate a pregnancy?

    Doctors advise patients. Does that make doctors anti-abortion?
    Suppose a woman is pregnant due to rape or incest? You are telling
    me that is not a legitimate reason why a woman should not terminate
    that baby? Sounds kinda sick to me ...

    I'm just saying that the BABY has no say in it, and is murdering that
    baby because of something he/she did not do fair to him/her?

    Decisions are made between doctors and patients. Not for me to
    decide. Or for others. And for government to dictate what others
    have to do, or prohibit what others can do? That is not the kind
    of government I want.

    Unless itt's a point of murder.

    What is best for the unborn child? Who will speak up for him/her?

    I am not a doctor. I am also not a woman. So who am I to say
    what is best - for both mother and child?

    I can say that murdering someone because it's inconvinent for someone
    ELSE to live is not 'best,' regardless if it's murdering the unborn
    or murdering an elderly you don't want to care for.

    Isn't that why aborion is performed almost in every case? Cause the baby is
    not wanted?

    There may be many reasons why a woman has an abortion. Could be
    she was raped. Could be a doctor advised to do so for her own good.
    But who am I to judge her for the choices she makes? We are not
    her masters. And we are not gods who can condemn her to hell for
    the choices she makes, which may be very sound.

    Not condemning anyone to hell. Only reason someone would go to hell is
    for rejecting Jesus Christ. Even the sin of murder is just another sin
    that the Lord can cover with His blood, but just because a sin is
    forgiven doesn't mean that it's not tragic.

    Suppose the woman's father tells her not to get an abortion?
    Suppose the woman's father is the father of the woman's baby?
    And you are telling me the woman would be committing a sin
    if she gebts an abortion? Rape (and incest) is a crime of violence. Nothing good about it. Being forced to carry that child would
    be even worse. Doesn't sound like a very loving god to me to
    force any woman to continue such a pregnancy.

    Again, murder is sin. I don't think you can say that premeditated
    murder is NOT a sin if the conditions are one thing are another. It
    is either murder or it is not.

    Would it be bad being forced to carry that child? Of course! Rape/incest
    is VERY terrible, but do 'two wrongs make a right' ?

    And what about those pregnant nuns who have been raped by priests?
    Send them to a nunnery? What a joke. The Bard's use of the word
    "nunnery" was reference to "whorehouse". Nuns are no better than prostitutes, meant to serve priests.

    And that sounds like a terrible thing! I would not wish that on
    anyone!

    Women who are pregnant have a home to go. And most want
    to have a baby, rather than have an abortion.

    Then why are we talking about that in relation to abortion?
    I'm not following...

    Where do pregnant women who are homeless go?

    I don't have a solution for that.




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