Hello Jimmy,

The two people who committed acts of murder will be prosecuted
for what they did. And one or both will be either found guilty,
or innocent by reason of insanity. Either way, society will be >LL>protected. As for future cases, something needs to be done to
protect society from further harm. That means some guns should
be taken off the market, or regulated so that certain folks
cannot get access to such guns.

And what guns are these? Do you have specifics? Some of the ones
being touted as 'assault weapons' are just the same semi-auto
firearms that have been around for 100+ years. Regular people
can NOT get their hands on fully automatic firearms, like you
see in the movies. The milatary, police and collectors have
those, and you have to have a special permit for them that carries
an extra 'fee' just to own.

Read the article cited above.

So, seriously, what guns are these 'some guns' - and please be
specific.

Read the article cited, in its entirety. And also the pdf file.

>There are already SO many laws on the books that make it where
>you have to pay a fee to the government to be able to exercise your
right to
> own a gun for self defense, hunting, sport shooting, collecting - whatever.

Nobody has the right to murder. The only state-sanctioned murder
is limited to soldiers in the US military. Where guns are very
strictly regulated.

I agree. No one has the right to murder. Owning a gun does not make
you commit murder. Also, murder can be committed by using a gun,
a knife, a car, a hammer, a lawn mower, a baseball bat, bare
hands... And in ALL of these cases, murder is illegal already and
no one has the right to murder others.

Guns make it so much easier to kill people with. And not just one
person, but multiple people. Even school kids use these guns, which
really should be regarded as weapons of mass destruction.

>There are MILLIONS of new gun owners since COVID started. How many of those
> have started murdering people?

Quite a few, if you care to count. The ones in Atlanta and Boulder
made headlines. But there are a lot more.

And these are new gun owners since COVID?

Some of them, yes. More than a few.

If someone gets drunk and drives and has an accident, do you close all the
bars? No. Why not?

It is legal for establishments to serve alcohol. It is not legal
to drink (to excess) and drive.

It is legal for establishmentts to sell guns and ammo. It is not legal
to load that ammo and murder someone.

There should be background checks for all who want to buy a gun.
Including at gun shows. But such is not the case. Why not? Because
some politicians are too interested in receiving donations from
the NRA - who are shilling for gun manufacturers. Beacuse of this
easy access to guns, nutcases can continue murdering people with
no end in sight.

If someone intentionally runs over someone with their car, do you start >>screaming to outlaw cars?

It is legal to drive cars. It is not legal to run over people
with cars.

You are making my point for me. :-)

Owning guns and committing acts of murder with guns are two different
things. I am not suggesting doing away with the 2nd Amendment or an individual's right to bear arms. But nobody has the right to own any
kind of weapon that exists.

We can regulate arms. We can limit what weapons people can own.
We also can limit or regulate who can own arms.

Or make it where you have to prove you're not a 'nutcase' to be able to >>purchase a car? No? Why not?

--Lee

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There should be background checks for all who want to buy a gun.
Including at gun shows. But such is not the case. Why not? Because
some politicians are too interested in receiving donations from
the NRA - who are shilling for gun manufacturers. Beacuse of this
easy access to guns, nutcases can continue murdering people with
no end in sight.

There should be background checks before a politician is able to touch a ink pen.

98% of them are unessential and don't speak English and Dollars&Cents.

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Lee Lofaso wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

The two people who committed acts of murder will be prosecuted
for what they did. And one or both will be either found guilty,
or innocent by reason of insanity. Either way, society will be
protected. As for future cases, something needs to be done to
protect society from further harm. That means some guns should
be taken off the market, or regulated so that certain folks
cannot get access to such guns.

And what guns are these? Do you have specifics? Some of the ones
being touted as 'assault weapons' are just the same semi-auto
firearms that have been around for 100+ years. Regular people
can NOT get their hands on fully automatic firearms, like you
see in the movies. The milatary, police and collectors have
those, and you have to have a special permit for them that carries
an extra 'fee' just to own.

Read the article cited above.

If it was in a previous message, it's gone now - can you post it
again? I telnet into a BBS and download mail for offline reading
and replying...

So, seriously, what guns are these 'some guns' - and please be
specific.

Read the article cited, in its entirety. And also the pdf file.

>There are already SO many laws on the books that make it where
>you have to pay a fee to the government to be able to exercise your
right to
> own a gun for self defense, hunting, sport shooting, collecting - whatever.

Nobody has the right to murder. The only state-sanctioned murder
is limited to soldiers in the US military. Where guns are very
strictly regulated.

I agree. No one has the right to murder. Owning a gun does not make
you commit murder. Also, murder can be committed by using a gun,
a knife, a car, a hammer, a lawn mower, a baseball bat, bare
hands... And in ALL of these cases, murder is illegal already and
no one has the right to murder others.

Guns make it so much easier to kill people with. And not just one
person, but multiple people. Even school kids use these guns, which
really should be regarded as weapons of mass destruction.

I wish they would teach gun safety in school, instead of making them
seem like EVIL things. <sigh>

>There are MILLIONS of new gun owners since COVID started. How many of those
> have started murdering people?

Quite a few, if you care to count. The ones in Atlanta and Boulder
made headlines. But there are a lot more.

And these are new gun owners since COVID?

Some of them, yes. More than a few.

Can you cite examples? And you know for a fact that the Atlanta and
Boulder cases were NEW gun owners?

If someone gets drunk and drives and has an accident, do you close all the
bars? No. Why not?

It is legal for establishments to serve alcohol. It is not legal
to drink (to excess) and drive.

It is legal for establishmentts to sell guns and ammo. It is not legal
to load that ammo and murder someone.

There should be background checks for all who want to buy a gun.
Including at gun shows. But such is not the case. Why not? Because
some politicians are too interested in receiving donations from
the NRA - who are shilling for gun manufacturers. Beacuse of this
easy access to guns, nutcases can continue murdering people with
no end in sight.

I mentioned the 'gun show loophole' in the previous message. Please read
that and I'd love to hear your comments and PROOF that such a thing
actually exists, not just that you have been told it does.

Just like in the other message, call some dealers, or go to a gun show
and try to puchase something with no background check.

If someone intentionally runs over someone with their car, do you start
screaming to outlaw cars?

It is legal to drive cars. It is not legal to run over people
with cars.

You are making my point for me. :-)

Owning guns and committing acts of murder with guns are two different things. I am not suggesting doing away with the 2nd Amendment or an individual's right to bear arms. But nobody has the right to own any
kind of weapon that exists.

We can regulate arms. We can limit what weapons people can own.
We also can limit or regulate who can own arms.

And that is being done already...

Or make it where you have to prove you're not a 'nutcase' to be able to
purchase a car? No? Why not?

You didn't answer this part...




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