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  • What's Right VS What's Sexy

    From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to All on Sunday, October 25, 2020 18:32:51
    Democrats make dangerous policies and Republicans are all about safety. The 2 parties need to compromise on things; preferably compromise on just about everything.

    But Pelosi & Schumer won't listen. They are "protesting" because Trump's president and they don't like it.

    But who are they hurting? Congress needs to learn how to work with the president in order to help their constituents; not work against the president for bragging rights to say "I told Trump to shove it!"

    Do any members of Congress care what residents are saying? I ask my lame Democrat for help, and he's nice enough to reply, but his reply translates to "I work for Nancy Pelosi and I have career ambitions."

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Aaron Thomas on Sunday, October 25, 2020 18:44:28
    On 25 Oct 20 18:32, Aaron Thomas said the following to All:

    Democrats make dangerous policies and Republicans are all about safety. The parties need to compromise on things; preferably compromise on just about everything.

    I heard your governor wants to legalize weed to pay for his spending habits?

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Nick Andre on Monday, October 26, 2020 09:54:43
    I heard your governor wants to legalize weed to pay for his spending habits

    I heard him say a few years ago that he was going to legalize weed, but it's been delayed several times presumably because of his re-election in 2023; he will keep the weed-loving NYers waiting while he searches for the best way to personally gain from this.

    I can't remember hearing anything about his spending habits though. Could it be all those lawyer fees for illegal immigrants that he's trying to compensate for?

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Aaron Thomas on Monday, October 26, 2020 22:31:06
    On 26 Oct 20 09:54, Aaron Thomas said the following to Nick Andre:

    I heard your governor wants to legalize weed to pay for his spending habits

    I heard him say a few years ago that he was going to legalize weed, but it' been delayed several times presumably because of his re-election in 2023; h

    Thats the thing about every one of these people that claim legalizing weed is such a good thing... they miss the point entirely. These are often the same people who hate "the system" who now suddenly whine to the government that
    it should be legal because look at how much tax revenue can be generated.

    Weed itself isn't really my problem but moreso the way people just blindly approve of a new tax revenue. Its strongly implying that the government has
    a revenue problem which is often not the case, its more of a spending problem.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Nick Andre on Tuesday, October 27, 2020 09:34:58
    Weed itself isn't really my problem but moreso the way people just blindly approve of a new tax revenue. Its strongly implying that the government has a revenue problem which is often not the case, its more of a spending probl

    In NY we have a state government that is anti-business. They've made NY a terrible place to do any kind of business with their high taxes and bail reform. So after all that liberal nonsense, now they think they're gonna sell weed - but not until 2023 of course - and they aren't gonna do it right either, like other states.

    Can you imagine a weed dispensary telling customers "We don't actually sell weed, only hash oil products?" That's how they executed the medical
    marijuana program. They are so stupid. And hash isn't as good as weed for medical use. It loses terpenes during the extraction process. But try telling that to the King of NY. He thinks he's gonna sell hash and that it's gonna fly off the store shelves.

    All the stuff people accuse Trump of doing, Cuomo's doing it. Ruling with an iron fist, not listening to science, etc.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Nick Andre on Tuesday, October 27, 2020 23:24:02
    On 10-26-20 22:31, Nick Andre <=-
    spoke to Aaron Thomas about Re: What's Right VS What' <=-

    I heard your governor wants to legalize weed to pay for
    his spending habits

    I heard him say a few years ago that he was going to
    legalize weed, but it'
    been delayed several times presumably because of his re-
    election in 2023; h

    Thats the thing about every one of these people that claim legalizing
    weed is such a good thing... they miss the point entirely. These are often the same people who hate "the system" who now suddenly whine to
    the government that it should be legal because look at how much tax revenue can be generated.

    Weed itself isn't really my problem but moreso the way people just
    blindly approve of a new tax revenue. Its strongly implying that the government has a revenue problem which is often not the case, its more
    of a spending problem.

    For some, MJ is a very useful medical drug. As a pain relief it is as effective and less addictive than opiods.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


    ... Shipwrecked in Silver Spring, Maryland. 23:26:03, 27 Oct 2020
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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Dale Shipp on Wednesday, October 28, 2020 03:12:44
    For some, MJ is a very useful medical drug. As a pain relief it is as effective and less addictive than opiods.

    I can't agree that it's anywhere near as effective as opioids for pain.

    People need opioids for certain types of pain. Have you ever had surgery? After surgery, people totally need opioids for pain. Weed? Ha! No way in hell weed is going to make a drilled skull feel better. It might even make it hurt worse.

    But I agree with you that it's a useful and effective medical drug for some people with certain ailments. It's not a cure for anything that I know of, although Rick Simpson (known for his Rick Simpson Oil method of whole-plant extraction) has claimed to have cured his own skin cancer with his "amazing oil." I don't believe that the weed cured him; he's just burnt out of his mind. I'll assume that his cancer is in remission, and I'm glad for that, but don't let people trick you into thinking weed is any better than a band-aid for certain medical conditions.

    For the record, Rick Simpson's oil sucks! I mean, 1ml will get me baked on a normal day, but then if I try to do it again later in the day, it don't work! The stuff is basically just an extremely potent edible substance, and
    it's incredibly difficult to control your tolerance while using it.

    ..now let me take this into a political direction:

    Andrew Cuomo only lets us have hash. He insists that vaping is
    safer than smoking (dried flower.) I hope he's right! Because man, this guy has been DEAD wrong about a lot of other stuff. Our MMJ program is only like 5 years old, so I'm hoping to not hear horror stories come out of this. Other states let the patients smoke if they want to.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, October 29, 2020 01:25:00
    On 10-28-20 03:12, Aaron Thomas <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: What's Right VS What <=-


    For some, MJ is a very useful medical drug. As a pain relief it is as effective and less addictive than opiods.

    I can't agree that it's anywhere near as effective as opioids for
    pain.
    People need opioids for certain types of pain. Have you ever had
    surgery? After surgery, people totally need opioids for pain. Weed?

    I have had surgery (my gall bladder died). I think that I was on some
    sort of opioid for less than a week. Got a script for 30 pills and used
    fewer than 10. Ditto for tooth extraction. I have no direct knowledge
    of how MJ would have helped then or not.

    Ha! No way in hell weed is going to make a drilled skull feel better.
    It might even make it hurt worse.

    But I agree with you that it's a useful and effective medical drug for some people with certain ailments. It's not a cure for anything that I

    That is what I was thinking about. I.e. cronic pain. I know someone
    who uses it and gets relief using it without some of the side effects
    from opioid pills.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Dale Shipp on Thursday, October 29, 2020 10:31:15
    That is what I was thinking about. I.e. cronic pain. I know someone
    who uses it and gets relief using it without some of the side effects
    from opioid pills.

    That's good that it works for that person. I keep hearing that certain strains have anti-inflamatory properties, but I've never used weed in place of motrin or opiates. I suspect that's a ploy for dispensaries to make a few extra sales. I'm not hating on it for that, but I'm afraid it gives people false hope.

    If I had a choice between weed or opiates for pain, I'd take the opiates sparingly.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
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