Hello Everybody,

Is it over? Or is he just taking a break?

https://trumpgolfcount.com/


I'll let you all do the math as to how much it
cost US taxpayers to finance all those golf excursions ...

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On 23 May 2021, Lee Lofaso said the following...

Hello Everybody,
Is it over? Or is he just taking a break?
https://trumpgolfcount.com/
I'll let you all do the math as to how much it
cost US taxpayers to finance all those golf excursions ...

It's not just a matter of how much it cost US taxpayers, but inasmuch as he took these excursions at his own resorts it's a matter of how mu US taxpayer money he funnelled back into his own pockets.

Jeff.

"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." -- H. L. Mencken, who indeed was a racist thereby proving himself right.

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https://trumpgolfcount.com/

Are pics of his penis starting to bore you?

I'll let you all do the math as to how much it
cost US taxpayers to finance all those golf excursions ...

The secret service? Is that what you mean? They have to protect all of these guys, not just Trump.

How much are we paying them to protect Obama's daughters while they burn
Target stores to the ground?

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On 22 May 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

The secret service? Is that what you mean? They have to protect all of these guys, not just Trump.
How much are we paying them to protect Obama's daughters while they burn Target stores to the ground?

Do you have any evidence to support this allegation, or are you lying again?

Jeff.

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Hello Jeff,

The secret service? Is that what you mean? They have to protect all

of

these guys, not just Trump.
How much are we paying them to protect Obama's daughters while they

burn

Target stores to the ground?

Do you have any evidence to support this allegation, or are you lying again?

How many Target stores are there in England?
One of Obama's daughters is dating a British guy.
Kinda wondering what stores they go to.

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Hello Aaron,

https://trumpgolfcount.com/

Are pics of his penis starting to bore you?

It's too small for anybody to see it. Even for Marco Rubio.

I'll let you all do the math as to how much it
cost US taxpayers to finance all those golf excursions ...

The secret service? Is that what you mean? They have to protect all of these
guys, not just Trump.

We pay the secret service to protect him and his family.
But only for ten years after he has left office.
So he can keep playing golf, on his own dime, for as long
as he wants. But after ten years, he will have to use his
own money to pay the secret service for protection.

How much are we paying them to protect Obama's daughters while they burn Target stores to the ground?

Obama left office in January, 2017. So he and his family
have free secret service protection until January, 2027.
After that, he has to pay them out of his own pocket.

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How much are we paying them to protect Obama's daughters while they b Target stores to the ground?

Do you have any evidence to support this allegation, or are you lying again?

Obama admitted that his daughters participated in a BLM riot. I don't know if they were the ones who burned any Targets down, but wouldn't that make them more heroic to the Democrat/BLM party?

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On 24 May 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

How much are we paying them to protect Obama's daughters while t Target stores to the ground?

Do you have any evidence to support this allegation, or are you lying again?

Obama admitted that his daughters participated in a BLM riot. I don't
know if they were the ones who burned any Targets down, but wouldn't
that make them more heroic to the Democrat/BLM party?

Nice try. They participated in BLM protests, not a riot. Thank you for admitting that you falsely accused them of burning down Target stores. You
are making progress.

Jeff.

"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." -- H. L. Mencken, who indeed was a racist thereby proving himself right.

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Obama left office in January, 2017. So he and his family
have free secret service protection until January, 2027.
After that, he has to pay them out of his own pocket.

We need billionaires for president every time; people who can pay that bill.

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Obama admitted that his daughters participated in a BLM riot. I don't know if they were the ones who burned any Targets down, but wouldn't that make them more heroic to the Democrat/BLM party?

Nice try. They participated in BLM protests, not a riot. Thank you for admitting that you falsely accused them of burning down Target stores.
You are making progress.

BLM is responsible for billions of dollars of destruction throughout America. But you are giving the Obama girls the benefit of the doubt by saying that they sat back and let the real black people do all the destruction.

That's racist.

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On 25 May 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Obama admitted that his daughters participated in a BLM riot. I know if they were the ones who burned any Targets down, but woul that make them more heroic to the Democrat/BLM party?

Nice try. They participated in BLM protests, not a riot. Thank you fo admitting that you falsely accused them of burning down Target stores You are making progress.

BLM is responsible for billions of dollars of destruction throughout America. But you are giving the Obama girls the benefit of the doubt by saying that they sat back and let the real black people do all the destruction.

And you would accuse them without evidence?

That's racist.

Accusing certain black people of violence because you saw some black people committing violence is indeed very racist.

Jeff.

"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." -- H. L. Mencken, who indeed was a racist thereby proving himself right.

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America. But you are giving the Obama girls the benefit of the doubt saying that they sat back and let the real black people do all the destruction.

And you would accuse them without evidence?

Guilt by association! Oops! My bad! In reality the Obama girls want what's
best for Target Inc.

Accusing certain black people of violence because you saw some black people committing violence is indeed very racist.

White People are the #1 threat to national security: That's racist too. Saying "white supremacy" on TV is racist. White supremacy don't exist, but Joe Biden wants it to because it's profitable in the election market.

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On 26 May 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

America. But you are giving the Obama girls the benefit of the d saying that they sat back and let the real black people do all t destruction.

And you would accuse them without evidence?

Guilt by association! Oops! My bad! In reality the Obama girls want
what's best for Target Inc.

I don't presume to know what they want.

Accusing certain black people of violence because you saw some black people committing violence is indeed very racist.

White People are the #1 threat to national security: That's racist too. Saying "white supremacy" on TV is racist. White supremacy don't exist,
but Joe Biden wants it to because it's profitable in the election market.

White supremacists do in fact exist, and they will tell you as much.

Jeff.

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Guilt by association! Oops! My bad! In reality the Obama girls want what's best for Target Inc.

I don't presume to know what they want.

You presume stuff when it's convenient.

White supremacists do in fact exist, and they will tell you as much.

They exist in movies, and they exist whenever the media wants them to exist.

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On 28 May 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Guilt by association! Oops! My bad! In reality the Obama girls w what's best for Target Inc.

I don't presume to know what they want.

You presume stuff when it's convenient.

Whatever. You're talking out your derriere regarding the Obama girls.

White supremacists do in fact exist, and they will tell you as much.

They exist in movies, and they exist whenever the media wants them to exist.

And they exist otherwise. Are you going to try to prove that the KKK, Aryan Nation, etc., don't exist? Be my guest.

Jeff.

"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." -- H. L. Mencken, who indeed was a racist thereby proving himself right.

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And they exist otherwise. Are you going to try to prove that the KKK, Aryan Nation, etc., don't exist? Be my guest.

Not in upstate NY.

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Hello Aaron,

Guilt by association! Oops! My bad! In reality the Obama girls

want

what's best for Target Inc.

I don't presume to know what they want.

You presume stuff when it's convenient.

There are white racists. And there are black racists.
One is as bad as the other. Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. said that.
Different words, but same meaning.

White supremacists do in fact exist, and they will tell you as much.

They exist in movies, and they exist whenever the media wants them to exist.

They also exist in real life. I met one of them. Actually twice.
Once as a student at LSU. The second time as a candidate for the US
Senate.

He was the same racist and bigot both times. Never changed his
views. White guy. Knew just what to say to push people's buttons.
Knew just how far he could go without inciting a riot, although
he did push it at times.

The first time I met him he presented himself dressed in full Nazi
garb on the steps of the LSU student union while making a speech to
the students. I was one of those in the crowd who kept others from
killing him on the spot. I was lucky to have survived that round,
as most of those students were black. You can check archive footage
of this, as he was caught on camera.

The second time I met him was when he was running for US Senate,
being interviewed by a (male) student from SLU. The two of them got
along great, and well, you know all the rest. Duke's wife filed
for divorce, the election went down the drain ...

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Hello Jeff,

Guilt by association! Oops! My bad! In reality the Obama

girls w

what's best for Target Inc.

I don't presume to know what they want.

You presume stuff when it's convenient.

Whatever. You're talking out your derriere regarding the Obama girls.

There is no Target store in London.
There is no Target store anywhere in the UK.
How about Wal*Mart?
How about Wendy's?
Gosh.
Americans are so spoiled.
Including those of Kenyan descent.

White supremacists do in fact exist, and they will tell you as
much.

They exist in movies, and they exist whenever the media wants them to
exist.

And they exist otherwise. Are you going to try to prove that the KKK, Aryan
Nation, etc., don't exist? Be my guest.

Spike Lee made a movie about a black cop as one of David Duke's
bodyguards ...

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They also exist in real life. I met one of them. Actually twice.
Once as a student at LSU. The second time as a candidate for the US

How many times has anyone encountered a white supremacist in the past 2 weeks?

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-

How many times has anyone encountered a white supremacist in the past 2 weeks?

They are a pretty rare animal these days. I'm surprised that the Left hasn't demanded that they be made a protected species.


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On 29 May 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

And they exist otherwise. Are you going to try to prove that the KKK, Aryan Nation, etc., don't exist? Be my guest.

Not in upstate NY.

I see. That's a far cry from only existing in the movies and in the media.
Nice walkback, though.

Jeff.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-

How many times has anyone encountered a white supremacist in the past 2 weeks?

They are a pretty rare animal these days. I'm surprised that the Left hasn't demanded that they be made a protected species.

Indeed.


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On 31 May 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

They also exist in real life. I met one of them. Actually twice.
Once as a student at LSU. The second time as a candidate for the US

How many times has anyone encountered a white supremacist in the past 2 weeks?

2 weeks? How did you come up with that number? A fortnight isn't a very long time at all, which means you don't have much confidence in white supremacist encounters being rare.

Here's a guy that planned to shoot up a Wal-Mart; white supremacist paraphernalia was found in his home: https://www.kens5.com/article/news/crime/kerrville-man-arrested-for-alleged-ter ror-plot-white-supremacist-paraphernalia-found-in-home/273-1851e754-505e-47ac-a 69c-5277b14c2188

Here's a white supremacist arrested in Vermont: https://www.news10.com/news/bennington-county/alleged-white-supremacist-arreste d-for-violating-conditions-of-release-in-bennington/

Here's a white supremacist Army officer on the verge of getting an other-than-honorable discharge: https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2021/05/25/the-army-wants-to-k ick-out-an-avowed-white-supremacist-officer-but-they-wont-admit-it/

Jeff.

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Aryan Nation, etc., don't exist? Be my guest.

Not in upstate NY.

I see. That's a far cry from only existing in the movies and in the
media. Nice walkback, though.

If I wanna see white supremacy I'll have to renew my Netflix subscription.

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Hello Aaron,

They also exist in real life. I met one of them. Actually twice.
Once as a student at LSU. The second time as a candidate for the US

How many times has anyone encountered a white supremacist in the past 2 weeks?

You don't know what a white supremacist is.
I do. None of them are nice people. Even though
some of them can put on a pretty good act.

Yesterday was Memorial Day.

A day in which all of us declare that those who
gave their lives for our country were fighting for
freedom. However, we would do well to remember the
military sacrifice of BLACK AMERICANS from the Civil
War to the present day. In WWII alone some 1.2 million
BLACK AMERICANS served in the military. Most of them
volunteers. What did freedom mean for them, who faced
so much racial oppression? You think white supremacists
cared about their freedom? Not a chance.

BLACK MEN have fought in eery single war for the
United States. And who benefitted? White folks. And
yet, white supremacists continue to make the same
false claims that BLACK MEN are the #1 problem in
America. In fact, most of them were not even considered
first-classed citizens, or even people.

"Stony Road: Reconstruction, White Supremacy and the
Rise of Jim Crow" by Henry Louis Gates Jr. is a book
you and all should read, as it explores what these
"black soldiers" did in those historical times.

There is no question the Civil War was a battle for
freedom. So was World War II. And the Vietnam War.

Look how racial subugation stood in direct contradiction
to the war aims President Franklin Delano Roosevelt outlined
in his Four Freedoms speech. Go ahead. Google it. It is an
easy read, and won't take you long.

"The experience of living in two worlds had prepared
Negroes to wage two fights simultaneoulsy."
~John Hope Franklin, historian

What Franklin forgot to tell us in his history books
is that FDR never allowed Negroes to fight alongside
white folks. Harry Truman was the president who broke
that barrier. And even that version was limited.

Wasn't until Vietnam that white folks and black folks
could fight together, pray together, and die together.

Of course, we can all forgive John Hope Franklin, as
he was quoting FDR's wife Eleanor Roosevelt -

"The nation cannot expect colored people to feel that
the United States is worth defending, if the Negro
continues to be treated as he is now."

You do see what I am getting at. Service in WWII (and
later in Korea) were fights for future civil rights
leaders. BLACK MEN fought our wars for us so that they
could win their own rights here.

A lot of folks talk about patriotism. A lot of folks
wave the flag. A lot of folks even fly the flag at home.
But what is patriotism? So you know? Do you have even a
vague idea? Most folks don't. They just follow the herd.

Patriotism is a commitment to a set of values. But not
just any set of values, as even die-hard racists have
values, sick as those values might be.

"A lot of people talk about patriotism these days. But what is
patriotism? It's a commitment to a set of founding values so complete
that one is willing to make the ultimate sacrifice."
~ Christopher S. Parker

Those veterans we honored yesterday were true American patriots.
True American patriots who made the ultimate sacrifice, and died for
their country.

Would you die for Trump?

None of those true American patriots did (or for any other president).

You want to know what true BLACK AMERICAN patriots died for?

They did so on the basis of what the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.
called "a promissary note," written in our founding documents.
A promissary note that is still waiting for full payment. Black
folks have a strong sense of faith - and hope. Which is why they
still believe.

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On 01 Jun 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Aryan Nation, etc., don't exist? Be my guest.

Not in upstate NY.

I see. That's a far cry from only existing in the movies and in the media. Nice walkback, though.

If I wanna see white supremacy I'll have to renew my Netflix
subscription.

Or travel outside of your bubble.

Jeff.

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How many times has anyone encountered a white supremacist in the past weeks?

2 weeks? How did you come up with that number? A fortnight isn't a very long time at all, which means you don't have much confidence in white supremacist encounters being rare.

You're over-analyzing. How many have you seen in the past 2 years?

https://www.kens5.com/article/news/crime/kerrville-man-arrested-for-allege

Kens5 saw one arrested? News10? Militarytimes.com?

When's the last time YOU saw a white supremacist?

I saw a parade of black supremacists last summer. They didn't kill anyone but they killed a public playground.

The media is filling your head with programming; not turbo pascal, but racial division. Be your own judge. When's the last time you saw a white supremacist in real life?

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On 01 Jun 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

2 weeks? How did you come up with that number? A fortnight isn't a ve long time at all, which means you don't have much confidence in white supremacist encounters being rare.

You're over-analyzing. How many have you seen in the past 2 years?

Personally, none. But I don't get out much.

https://www.kens5.com/article/news/crime/kerrville-man-arrested-for-a

Kens5 saw one arrested? News10? Militarytimes.com?

Yes. Others have seen them and shared their experiences. That's how human communication works. Most humans can learn from the experiences of others and don't need to experience everything first-hand.

When's the last time YOU saw a white supremacist?

In person? It's been a while. On the news? Not that long ago.

I saw a parade of black supremacists last summer. They didn't kill
anyone but they killed a public playground.

How exactly does one kill a playground? Did they somehow defile it by being black?

The media is filling your head with programming; not turbo pascal, but racial division. Be your own judge. When's the last time you saw a white supremacist in real life?

When is the last time you saw a refugee smuggling drugs across the border?

Jeff.

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gave their lives for our country were fighting for
freedom. However, we would do well to remember the
military sacrifice of BLACK AMERICANS from the Civil
War to the present day. In WWII alone some 1.2 million
BLACK AMERICANS served in the military. Most of them

You lost me after the Black part. Why divide racially?

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The media is filling your head with programming; not turbo pascal, but racial >division. Be your own judge. When's the last time you saw a white supremacist >in real life?

I would expand that to "white supremacists acting as a group." Some of the individuals Jeff cited might identify as white supremacists but it also
sounds like they have some other mental issues that ultimately led to their actions.

I can remember when the KKK used to (attempt to) hold rallies, but it has
been a long time ago that I can remember hearing about one anywhere around here. OT1H, it *could* be that none of the local news organizations find
these gatherings newsworthy any more, but I get the impression that they
are not very commonplace in their coverage areas any more.

OTOH, there have been all sorts of non-white-supremacists gatherings in the local news in recent years.


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When's the last time YOU saw a white supremacist?

In person? It's been a while. On the news? Not that long ago.

Honest question... is it the local news covering local happenings, or news
from outside your area? Just curious about what is going on down TX way.


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On 02 Jun 2021, Mike Powell said the following...

When's the last time YOU saw a white supremacist?

In person? It's been a while. On the news? Not that long ago.

Honest question... is it the local news covering local happenings, or
news from outside your area? Just curious about what is going on down
TX way.

I posted a link from KENS from a few days ago; KENS is a San Antonio station.
I used to work pretty close to the state capitol (pre-COVID, but now I
work from home) and used to walk the capitol grounds during various protests. And, of course, this is Alex Jones' hometown, so there's that.

Jeff.

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On 02 Jun 2021, Mike Powell said the following...

The media is filling your head with programming; not turbo pascal, but ra >division. Be your own judge. When's the last time you saw a white suprema >in real life?

I would expand that to "white supremacists acting as a group." Some of the individuals Jeff cited might identify as white supremacists but it also sounds like they have some other mental issues that ultimately led
to their actions.

There were quite a lot of them at the Capitol on January 6.

Jeff.

"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." -- H. L. Mencken, who indeed was a racist thereby proving himself right.

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Hello Aaron,

gave their lives for our country were fighting for
freedom. However, we would do well to remember the
military sacrifice of BLACK AMERICANS from the Civil
War to the present day. In WWII alone some 1.2 million
BLACK AMERICANS served in the military. Most of them

You lost me after the Black part. Why divide racially?

Because. That is who [and what] we are.

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Hello Ron,

How many times has anyone encountered a white supremacist in the AT>past

2 weeks?

They are a pretty rare animal these days. I'm surprised that the Left hasn't demanded that they be made a protected species.

Tlaib, March 17: There’s real data and information currently right now
of the rise of white supremacy right here in this United States of
America. He needs to look at the data and the information and the facts
and actually listen and understand the tremendous responsibility he has
in being our president, our leader of our country.

He cannot just say it’s a small group of people. There’s too many
deaths, not only from the synagogue to the black churches to the
temples to the — now the mosques. We need to be speaking up against
this, and it has to start with him reiterating the importance of real information and data that says it’s on the rise.

You can’t just say it isn’t, when the facts say the complete opposite.

-=-

There you go. Do as the lady says. "Look up the data and information
currently right now of the rise of white supremacy right here in this
United States of America." And the "facts" - such as they are.

White supremacists are *not* "a pretty rare animal these days."
They are all around us. Everywhere we look. Not just here in one
state in the South, but in every state in the USA.

Time to get your head out of the ground and take a look. Grow up.
Try living in the *real* world. And start making this a better place
for us all.

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Hello Aaron,

gave their lives for our country were fighting for
freedom. However, we would do well to remember the
military sacrifice of BLACK AMERICANS from the Civil
War to the present day. In WWII alone some 1.2 million
BLACK AMERICANS served in the military. Most of them

You lost me after the Black part. Why divide racially?

Black folk have fought in every war America has ever had, fighting
for everybody else's freedom but their own. And black folk are still
fighting for their own freedom today. So why do certain politicians -
mostly white folk - continue to deny black folk the same kind of
freedoms everybody else has?

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Hello Jeff,

I saw a parade of black supremacists last summer. They didn't kill
anyone but they killed a public playground.

How exactly does one kill a playground? Did they somehow defile it by being
black?

You'd be surprised what black folk can do to a sandbox.
And when playing golf what they can do to a sand trap.

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I posted a link from KENS from a few days ago; KENS is a San Antonio station. >I used to work pretty close to the state capitol (pre-COVID, but now I
work from home) and used to walk the capitol grounds during various protests. >And, of course, this is Alex Jones' hometown, so there's that.

I live in the capital also. Until COVID, I could see it out my office
window. Most of the protests we have are not "right wing" and certainly
not "white supremacists." Some have been the teacher's union. Some have
been "right wing" silent protests re: the second amendment. They had a
couple of those early in the pandemic... they all stood 6-feet apart on the capitol steps and wore masks.

The most recent one I am aware of (saw it on the news as we're not back in
the building full-time) were both sides of a "school choice" issue that was
up for a vote in the legislature earlier in the year. From what I heard,
it was also peaceful (lots of young kids there) but, from what I saw, did not involve much mask wearing.

The only really threatening things that happened happened over last Summer.
I do not know if there were any protests on those days or not, but there
were 2-3 days where our building (and several others downtown) were closed
due to threats from the Summer, non-right-wing protests groups or
individuals. Our COVID skeletal crew got sent home on those days.

Aside from fire drills/false alarms, that is the only time I can remember
my building ever being evacuated.

I don't know who Alex Jones is.


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I would expand that to "white supremacists acting as a group." Some of the individuals Jeff cited might identify as white supremacists but it also sounds like they have some other mental issues that ultimately led to their actions.

There were quite a lot of them at the Capitol on January 6.

Because they were mostly white and mostly Trump supporters doesn't make
them white supremacists. If being mostly white makes them so, I have to
take back what I said earlier about protests here... the teacher's union protesters were mostly white, and very angry, also. That is the only time
I have ever been able to see *and* hear the protesters at the capital
building.

So I guess maybe I have seen a white supremacists protest in our state
capital.


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You're over-analyzing. How many have you seen in the past 2 years?

Personally, none. But I don't get out much.

Perfect.

Yes. Others have seen them and shared their experiences. That's how human communication works. Most humans can learn from the experiences of
others and don't need to experience everything first-hand.

That's a good thing when you're treating a snake-bite or changing an
electrical outlet, but the media has an agenda and you're playing a vital role in it.

How exactly does one kill a playground? Did they somehow defile it by being black?

Burned all the equipment; taught whites a lesson.

When is the last time you saw a refugee smuggling drugs across the
border?

Good point! Maybe we both need to avoid bs:
1) neither of us has ever met a white supremacist (that we know of)
2) neither of us ever met a refugee smuggling drugs (that we know of)

Lets resist the temptation to parrot stuff that we can't prove; that's a job for Ana Cabrona & Tucker Carlson.

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I would expand that to "white supremacists acting as a group." Some of the individuals Jeff cited might identify as white supremacists but it also sounds like they have some other mental issues that ultimately led
to their actions.

He's never seen one in real life, but he's seen them on tv. So luckily he's never seen them act as a group.

I want to give Biden the benefit of the doubt, but I just can't because I strongly believe that the producers of The Biden Show put those ridiculous words in his mouth ("our biggest threat is white supremacy.")

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You lost me after the Black part. Why divide racially?

Because. That is who [and what] we are.

You're absolutely right. But maybe the Dems could change?

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for everybody else's freedom but their own. And black folk are still fighting for their own freedom today. So why do certain politicians -

Which black people? Not up here in the free states. Come to NY and you won't have that problem at all.

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On 02 Jun 2021, Mike Powell said the following...

I posted a link from KENS from a few days ago; KENS is a San Antonio stat >I used to work pretty close to the state capitol (pre-COVID, but now I >work from home) and used to walk the capitol grounds during various prote >And, of course, this is Alex Jones' hometown, so there's that.

I live in the capital also. Until COVID, I could see it out my office window. Most of the protests we have are not "right wing" and certainly not "white supremacists." Some have been the teacher's union. Some have been "right wing" silent protests re: the second amendment. They had a couple of those early in the pandemic... they all stood 6-feet apart on the capitol steps and wore masks.

We've had a mixture. As our government is Republican-led, we've had a good number of protests against oppressive Republican policies. But then again, we've had our share of right-wing protests, too, over things like mask
mandates and statue removals.

The most recent one I am aware of (saw it on the news as we're not back
in the building full-time) were both sides of a "school choice" issue
that was up for a vote in the legislature earlier in the year. From
what I heard, it was also peaceful (lots of young kids there) but, from what I saw, did not involve much mask wearing.

The protests are generally peaceful, although the right-wing protesters do
tend to turn up armed.

The only really threatening things that happened happened over last Summer. I do not know if there were any protests on those days or not,
but there were 2-3 days where our building (and several others downtown) were closed due to threats from the Summer, non-right-wing protests
groups or individuals. Our COVID skeletal crew got sent home on those days.

I vaguely remember our offices being evacuated once for a protest, but I
don't remember the nature of it. It might have just been an advisement to cut out early because the streets were expected to be blocked.

I don't know who Alex Jones is.

You're probably better off for that. He's the idiot in charge of InfoWars.

Jeff.

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On 02 Jun 2021, Mike Powell said the following...

I would expand that to "white supremacists acting as a group." Som the individuals Jeff cited might identify as white supremacists but also sounds like they have some other mental issues that ultimately to their actions.

There were quite a lot of them at the Capitol on January 6.

Because they were mostly white and mostly Trump supporters doesn't make them white supremacists. If being mostly white makes them so, I have to take back what I said earlier about protests here... the teacher's union protesters were mostly white, and very angry, also. That is the only
time I have ever been able to see *and* hear the protesters at the
capital building.

No, being mostly white and/or being mostly trump supporters does not make
them white supremacists. However, being members of groups that self-describe
as "western chauvinists" does.

So I guess maybe I have seen a white supremacists protest in our state capital.

Maybe you have. Unless you look into the ideologies of the groups protesting, you never know.

Jeff.

"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." -- H. L. Mencken, who indeed was a racist thereby proving himself right.

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On 02 Jun 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

You're over-analyzing. How many have you seen in the past 2 year

Personally, none. But I don't get out much.

Perfect.

Yes. Others have seen them and shared their experiences. That's how h communication works. Most humans can learn from the experiences of others and don't need to experience everything first-hand.

That's a good thing when you're treating a snake-bite or changing an electrical outlet, but the media has an agenda and you're playing a
vital role in it.

It's also a good thing in understanding the world around us. Sticking one's head in the sand isn't a very good policy.

How exactly does one kill a playground? Did they somehow defile it by being black?

Burned all the equipment; taught whites a lesson.

What was this equipment made of? It seems like it would take quite a lot of fuel to burn down a playground.

When is the last time you saw a refugee smuggling drugs across the border?

Good point! Maybe we both need to avoid bs:
1) neither of us has ever met a white supremacist (that we know of)
2) neither of us ever met a refugee smuggling drugs (that we know of)

Except white supremacy is not BS. It does exist, and there are people who self-profess to it. They will flat-out tell you that they're white supremacists. Drug-smuggling refugees, not so much, although it's interesting how quickly you're willing to abandon that claim if it squelches discussion
of white supremacy.

Lets resist the temptation to parrot stuff that we can't prove; that's a job for Ana Cabrona & Tucker Carlson.

White supremacy doesn't need to be proven; as I said, they will flat-out tell you that they're white supremacists. Like Dylann Roof did.

Jeff.

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Aaron Thomas wrote to Lee Lofaso <=-

You lost me after the Black part. Why divide racially?

When Marx brought up the idea that the "workers would rise up", he envisioned everything as a class struggle.

Of course, Marx was way off and here in the U.S. workers were so well off that they never thought of "rising up".

So the Marxists had to come up with another way to divide people. For their plan to work, they had to divide people into "victim" and "oppressor" groups and they need to do it in a way that's visibly obvious. So they chose race.

That's why they NEEDED Trump out. Trump was making much easier for minorities to become prosperous - effectively negating the Marxist movement.


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On 03 Jun 2021, Ron Lauzon said the following...

When Marx brought up the idea that the "workers would rise up", he envisioned everything as a class struggle.

[...]

That's why they NEEDED Trump out. Trump was making much easier for minorities to become prosperous - effectively negating the Marxist movement.

What a load of crock. You obviously know as little about Marxism as you do about Socialism, and your ignorance of the American labor movement is astounding.

Jeff.

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When Marx brought up the idea that the "workers would rise up", he envisioned everything as a class struggle.

Perfect explanation! Thanks.

That explains their recklessness with handling the pandemic; they don't
abandon something that weakens the the poor (and enriches big busineses!)

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Burned all the equipment; taught whites a lesson.

What was this equipment made of? It seems like it would take quite a lot of fuel to burn down a playground.

Mostly pressure-treated lumber.

Except white supremacy is not BS. It does exist, and there are people who self-profess to it. They will flat-out tell you that they're white

We never seen one in real life though.

White supremacy doesn't need to be proven; as I said, they will flat-out tell you that they're white supremacists. Like Dylann Roof did.

Luckily we never met him & never will. Although, Dylan is the #1 threat to national security according to Joe.

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Jeff Thiele wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

What a load of crock. You obviously know as little about Marxism as you
do about Socialism, and your ignorance of the American labor movement
is astounding.

Just the standard Leftie "I'm smarter than you" BS. *Yawn* Boring.


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On 03 Jun 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Burned all the equipment; taught whites a lesson.

What was this equipment made of? It seems like it would take quite a of fuel to burn down a playground.

Mostly pressure-treated lumber.

I see.

Except white supremacy is not BS. It does exist, and there are people self-profess to it. They will flat-out tell you that they're white

We never seen one in real life though.

Not personally, perhaps. But that's not the only measure of whether they
exist or not.

White supremacy doesn't need to be proven; as I said, they will flat- tell you that they're white supremacists. Like Dylann Roof did.

Luckily we never met him & never will. Although, Dylan is the #1 threat
to national security according to Joe.

He does exist, though, whether you met him or not. Nine people who did meet
him were murdered by him. Dylann Roof is no longer a threat, but people with his mindset are.

Jeff.

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On 04 Jun 2021, Ron Lauzon said the following...

What a load of crock. You obviously know as little about Marxism as y do about Socialism, and your ignorance of the American labor movement is astounding.

Just the standard Leftie "I'm smarter than you" BS. *Yawn* Boring.

You hear that a lot, don't you? Why am I not surprised?

Jeff.

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On 03 Jun 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Burned all the equipment; taught whites a lesson.

What was this equipment made of? It seems like it would take quite a of fuel to burn down a playground.

Mostly pressure-treated lumber.

From what I can tell, this incident happened in Binghamton during the night
of May 30/31. Although there was a peaceful protest in the park earlier in
the day, it ended with a call for peace and the protesters dispersed hours before the fire. I cannot find any news regarding suspects in the setting of the fire, and as far as I know police still do not know who was responsible
for it.

Jeff.

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Hello Aaron,

White supremacy doesn't need to be proven; as I said, they will
flat-out tell you that they're white supremacists. Like Dylann Roof
did.

Luckily we never met him & never will.

Even folks on life row have visitor's rights.

Although, Dylan is the #1 threat to national security according to Joe.

Dylan is a threat to no one, as he is being housed for the rest
of his natural life at a South Carolina vacation home, his only
way out in a pine box.

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We never seen one in real life though.

Not personally, perhaps. But that's not the only measure of whether they exist or not.

Letting the media measure it for us is a bad idea.

He does exist, though, whether you met him or not. Nine people who did meet him were murdered by him. Dylann Roof is no longer a threat, but people with his mindset are.

What Joe said has a slim chance of being true, it's racially divisive, and Dylan Roof was a lone wolf.

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dispersed hours before the fire. I cannot find any news regarding
suspects in the setting of the fire, and as far as I know police still
do not know who was responsible for it.

Binghamton is a small town. We don't have arson often, but we had it on BLM day. Maybe Dylan Roof did it.

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On 04 Jun 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

We never seen one in real life though.

Not personally, perhaps. But that's not the only measure of whether t exist or not.

Letting the media measure it for us is a bad idea.

That is literally the job of the media. Just because you don't like some of
the things they report doesn't mean they're lying.

He does exist, though, whether you met him or not. Nine people who di meet him were murdered by him. Dylann Roof is no longer a threat, but people with his mindset are.

What Joe said has a slim chance of being true, it's racially divisive,
and Dylan Roof was a lone wolf.

Biden is not the first to have said it, and in fact he was only relaying what intelligence officials had been saying. With regard to racial divisiveness,
you seem to be confusing cause and effect. And Dylann Roof may have acted alone, but he was part of a larger white supremacist community.

Jeff.

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On 04 Jun 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

dispersed hours before the fire. I cannot find any news regarding suspects in the setting of the fire, and as far as I know police stil do not know who was responsible for it.

Binghamton is a small town. We don't have arson often, but we had it on BLM day. Maybe Dylan Roof did it.

Correlation does not imply causation. Maybe someone else took advantage of
what happened that day.

Jeff.

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On 06-02-21, AARON THOMAS said to LEE LOFASO:

for everybody else's freedom but their own. And black folk are still fighting for their own freedom today. So why do certain politicians -

Blacks have been free since the Emancipaton Proclimation was issued.


Northerners fought a war against Southerners and their slavery to enforce that proclimation.


The slave owners (democrats) have resisted it since. Even in the middle and 3/4's of the way through the last century, southern democrats had their
slavery mentality on full display.

Which black people? Not up here in the free states. Come to NY and you AT>won't have that problem at all.

But blacks are hardly `innocent' victims here.


They are claiming they have no `opportunity'. But its hard to make that claim stick when blacks drop out of school, run with violent street gangs, do and sell drugs, commit all sorts of violent crimes, and make no effort to take responsibility for their own success.


`Reparations'? They've been paid `reparations' over many decades in the form
of several generations of welfare, subsidized housing, free medical care, and, when the food stamp program got well-underway in the sixties and seventies, free food.


A huge number of blacks are in prisons because a huge number of blacks commit crimes!


What sort of person makes a hero out of a street criminal?


What makes George Floyd someone who deserves any sort of `shrine' or `mural' honoring him? He was a doper, a criminal who'd done one or two sentences in prison.


Or what makes that cop-killing black woman who's been hiding in Cuba for several decades anyone to `admire'?


Many modern-day blacks have a strange sense of priorties.



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Biden: "You'd need F-15's and nukes to take on the government." It's gonna be hard parking my new F-15 at Walmart! Any `nuke' built in someone's basement that goes off by accident will take out most of the whole county!












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Hello Tim,

for everybody else's freedom but their own. And black folk are still
fighting for their own freedom today. So why do certain politicians -

Blacks have been free since the Emancipaton Proclimation was issued.

First of all, Abraham Lincoln did not free the slaves with his
Emancipation Proclamation. He merely wanted to send them all to
Louisiana, where he had special plans for them.

In regards to your silly statement about blacks being free since
that time, you seem to forget all about those blacks who are being
held against their will in prisons throughout this country, forced
into another form of slavery, all thanks to the 13th amendment.

Northerners fought a war against Southerners and their slavery to enforce that proclimation.

Wrong again, as usual. Slavery remained legal, and continued to exist,
in both the North and the South, during and after the Civil War.

Several states seceded from the Union, forming the Confederate
States of America, having its own President, Congress, and Supreme
Court. Along with its own currency and everything else that comes
with having an independent country.

In fact, after the war, those Southern states had to be re-admitted
into the Union in order to become part of the USA.

But I guess you forgot all about that.

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