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    From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to All on Thursday, June 24, 2021 11:11:17
    The Supreme Court of New York Appellate Division has suspended Rudy
    Giuliani from practicing law in New York, pending completion of an investigation.

    The court found that "there is uncontroverted evidence that respondent communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts,
    lawmakers and the public at large in his capacity as lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump and the Trump campaign in connection with Trump's failed effort at reelection in 2020."

    Rudy lied to you.

    Rudy lied to you about the election being stolen.

    Rudy, acting on behalf of his client Donald Trump, lied to you about the election being stolen.

    Jeff.

    "For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." -- H. L. Mencken, who indeed was a racist thereby proving himself right.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Cold War Computing BBS (1:387/26)
  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Jeff Thiele on Friday, June 25, 2021 02:03:56
    Hello Jeff,

    The Supreme Court of New York Appellate Division has suspended Rudy Giuliani from practicing law in New York, pending completion of an investigation.

    Has he been disbarred? Or merely suspended? And specific only
    to New York?

    Keep in mind, his former client is no longer POTUS. And is also
    no longer a resident of New York. So does it really matter if Rudy
    can or cannot practice law in New York?

    The court found that "there is uncontroverted evidence that respondent communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers and the public at large in his capacity as lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump and the Trump campaign in connection with Trump's
    failed effort at reelection in 2020."

    Violating a code of ethics is not the same thing as defending the
    POTUS (or former POTUS) in a court of law. But he is bound by a code
    of ethics in everything he does in his capacity as lawyer.

    Rudy lied to you.

    Let's not get into name-calling. We all know that lawyers (and
    politicians) never lie. He was just more expedient with the truth
    than he should have been.

    Rudy lied to you about the election being stolen.

    And Mayor Daley never found dead voters for JFK.

    Rudy, acting on behalf of his client Donald Trump, lied to you about the election being stolen.

    Voters vote.
    Watchers watch the voters.
    But who is watching the watchers?

    The courts have thrown out all fake claims made about "massive
    voter fraud" - and Joe Biden remains president today same as he
    did on January 20. In a bit less than four years from now, they
    can have another go at it. Until then, keep whining.

    --Lee

    --
    Donald Trump! Go away! Racist, sexist, anti-gay!

    --- MesNews/1.08.05.00-gb
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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Lee Lofaso on Friday, June 25, 2021 08:48:59
    On 25 Jun 2021, Lee Lofaso said the following...
    The Supreme Court of New York Appellate Division has suspended Rudy Giuliani from practicing law in New York, pending completion of an investigation.
    Has he been disbarred? Or merely suspended? And specific only
    to New York?

    He has not been disbarred (yet); the investigation is still ongoing. However, they have uncovered enough evidence of unethical behavior to suspend his license effective immediately. This is specific to New York because it is New York that is conducting the investigation.

    Keep in mind, his former client is no longer POTUS. And is also
    no longer a resident of New York. So does it really matter if Rudy
    can or cannot practice law in New York?

    What matters is not that he got his license suspended, but *why* he got his license suspended. It was suspended because he lied to the courts and the general public (defined, I believe, as 3,500 or more people).

    Violating a code of ethics is not the same thing as defending the
    POTUS (or former POTUS) in a court of law. But he is bound by a code
    of ethics in everything he does in his capacity as lawyer.

    He violated the code of ethics *in order to* defend his client, the former POTUS. Specifically, he lied about the 2020 presidential election having been stolen.

    Jeff.

    "For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." -- H. L. Mencken, who indeed was a racist thereby proving himself right.

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: Cold War Computing BBS (1:387/26)