Pot-kettle-black.
Fair point. Bt at least Democrats have the best interest of the country -- all of the country, and everyone in it -- in mind when they do.
Thanks for the laugh. The painting of large, non-urban swaths of the country as the "Basket of Deplorables," and their general disdain for rural Americans as a whole would lead most to know otherwise.Pot-kettle-black.Fair point. Bt at least Democrats have the best interest of the country all of the country, and everyone in it -- in mind when they do.
Racists are deplorable.
Neo-nazis are deplorable.
Neo-confederates are deplorable.
Anti-LGBT bigots are deplorable.
And yet these people tend to be overwhelmingly conservative and Republican. Do you know why?
And yet these people tend to be overwhelmingly conservative and Republican. Do you know why?
Racists are deplorable.You get overwhelmed too easily. All of your generalizations are flawed.
Neo-nazis are deplorable.
Neo-confederates are deplorable.
Anti-LGBT bigots are deplorable.
And yet these people tend to be overwhelmingly conservative and Republican. Do you know why?
If racists were deplorable, then why would Democrats be in power? They never stop talking about color, because it works!
Neo-nazis are fictional characters from American History X.
Neo-confederates are paid actors who found the gig on Craigslist.
Anti-LGBT bigots? Who cares? Did you ever see someone pick on a gay
person and then stick a Trump sign in their yard later the same day?
Your numbers ("most," "many," "most of em..") are flawed.
And yet these people tend to be overwhelmingly conservative and Republican. Do you know why?Who says they "tend to be Republican?" Maybe all the Republicans in your town are idiots, but it seems more like you're just parroting what the media wants people to believe. Your operation was a success.
Racists are deplorable.
Neo-nazis are deplorable.
Neo-confederates are deplorable.
Anti-LGBT bigots are deplorable.
And yet these people tend to be overwhelmingly conservative and Republican. Do you know why?
No. The biggest racists I have met were not Republicans, unless voting straight-ticket Democrat makes you a Republican somehow. Ironically, two of the most religiously-conservative people I know (one pro-LGBT, one
not) are also both straight-ticket Democrats.
I am none of the above, but am a registered Republican.You have fallen victim to the same fallacy as Aaron repeatedly does. The majority of racists and other bigots being Republican is not equivalent to
BTW, the wide brush that was eventually applied to "deplorable" also includes both Kentuckians and Texans. Welcome to the basket.
To go back to a post someone made the other day (more than once, I
think), supposedly all religious conservatives are somehow closet
rapists and murders who have to follow the church to keep them from a
life of violent crime.
If that is really true, it would not be much of a stretch to say that
all of the white people who keep religiously pointing at others claiming racism, sexism, homophobia, etc., in everything they see are closeted members of one or all of the racist, sexist, homophobic, other bad -ists/-phobic groups.
Quoting Aaron Thomas to Jeff Thiele <=-
Who says they "tend to be Republican?" Maybe all the Republicans in
your town are idiots, but it seems more like you're just parroting what the media wants people to believe. Your operation was a success.
I've said before, that's Jeff's (and others) job: Ad-hominem attacks against anyone not following the false Narrative. Wear them down so
that they don't do anything real (like strip the emergency powers from their governor).
I've reached the point where I've decided to go "old school".
I've always preferred to call BBSs on my vintage hardware. So now that
I have a real 386, I decided to get Blue Wave up and running. Blue Wave has a really nice Twit Filter.
I've said before, that's Jeff's (and others) job: Ad-hominem attacks against anyone not following the false Narrative. Wear them down so
that they don't do anything real (like strip the emergency powers from their governor).
"Talking about color" does not equal "racism."
Neo-nazis were present at the Charlottesville "Unite the Right" rally,
and were quite real.
Nope. And who uses Craigslist anymore, anyways? Get some new talking points, man. You remind me of my former mother-in-law who every once in
Nope. I live in Texas, man. I've heard plenty of anti-LGBT garbage and it's plenty obvious what side of the aisle those spewing it are on. How
They say so themselves, in their own words and actions. Note also that I did not say that Republicans overwhelmingly tend to be these people, but that these people tend to be overwhelmingly Republican/conservative. You seem to have a fair amount of difficulty with that logical construct.
I've said before, that's Jeff's (and others) job: Ad-hominem attacks against anyone not following the false Narrative. Wear them down so that they don't do anything real (like strip the emergency powers fro their governor).It's funny how you never directly respond to people who
disagree with you. Is it because you cannot actually
rebut their argument?
"Talking about color" does not equal "racism."It does when they do it purposefully to enslave the minds of an entire race.
Neo-nazis were present at the Charlottesville "Unite the Right" rally and were quite real.Haven't heard from them lately. Where are they hiding?
Nope. And who uses Craigslist anymore, anyways? Get some new talking points, man. You remind me of my former mother-in-law who every once
We both need new talking points. Look, we're both brainwashed. "My brainwashing is better than yours" is a lousy talking point. I saw the
ads on Craigslist, but surely the kings of the media (Democrats) have better recruitment strategies that I haven't caught them red handed with just yet. Probably Facebook is the place for that.
Nope. I live in Texas, man. I've heard plenty of anti-LGBT garbage an it's plenty obvious what side of the aisle those spewing it are on. HI live in New York and we pick on homos here, but it's a form of love. You'd have to live here to understand it. We bust balls. But I've seen lots of homos and I have not seen or heard of any anti-LGBTQ crimes
here. The media will be sure to announce it the second that someone sets
a buring cross outside a gay person's home, and they will most certainly try to attribute it to "Trump's rhetoric" or some dumb thing like that. Gay liberals will eat it up.
They say so themselves, in their own words and actions. Note also tha did not say that Republicans overwhelmingly tend to be these people, that these people tend to be overwhelmingly Republican/conservative. seem to have a fair amount of difficulty with that logical construct.Who knows what goes on in the minds of hillbilly latinos? You guys hate whites, you hate blacks, you hate Puerto Ricans, but you love telling other people that they're the haters.
Yep! Ron can't rebut; all he can do is squawk on about the "Elite," the "standard Leftie response," the "false Narrative," and any of a number of other vague, culty-sounding nonsense phrases. It's all he's got.
Yep! Ron can't rebut; all he can do is squawk on about the "Elite," t "standard Leftie response," the "false Narrative," and any of a numbe other vague, culty-sounding nonsense phrases. It's all he's got.I blame the educational system. It's amazing how uneducated almost
every Trump-supporting conservative I know is; certainly, every one
that spouts nonsense like, "the Leftie Narrative" were the type that basically failed out of high school.
You know what they say... 50% of all Americans are of below-average intelligence. Given that this will, by definition, always be true, the only thing we can do is work to raise that average. And the first step towards doing that, I would think, is figuring out what's pulling it
down.
On 28 Jul 2021 at 02:55p, Jeff Thiele pondered and said...
You know what they say... 50% of all Americans are of below-average intelligence. Given that this will, by definition, always be true, th only thing we can do is work to raise that average. And the first ste towards doing that, I would think, is figuring out what's pulling it down.I'd say it's lack of education, embracing religion, and relishing in racism.
I am none of the above, but am a registered Republican.You have fallen victim to the same fallacy as Aaron repeatedly does. The majority of racists and other bigots being Republican is not equivalent
to the majority of Republicans being racist or other bigots.
I've said before, that's Jeff's (and others) job: Ad-hominem attacks against anyone not following the false Narrative. Wear them down so
I have a real 386, I decided to get Blue Wave up and running. Blue Wave has a really nice Twit Filter.
So what Ron's saying here is that he's going to comment on my posts *without actually reading my posts*.
I am none of the above, but am a registered Republican.You have fallen victim to the same fallacy as Aaron repeatedly does. majority of racists and other bigots being Republican is not equivale to the majority of Republicans being racist or other bigots.
There's no majority. You're letting a clip you saw on TV tell you about the majority of Republicans.
So what Ron's saying here is that he's going to comment on my posts *without actually reading my posts*.We should try to keep moving forward with new topics and stop reverting back to the same old arguments. We're both guilty of it. Let's be more like the 5!
I am none of the above, but am a registered Republican.You have fallen victim to the same fallacy as Aaron repeatedly does. majority of racists and other bigots being Republican is not equivale to the majority of Republicans being racist or other bigots.
There's no majority. You're letting a clip you saw on TV tell you about the majority of Republicans.
Me and Jeff have started a new tradition where we argue over the same stuff over and over. He's determined to be right, and that's nice I
guess, but he wants to use flowery words like "most of em" and "usually" to back his faulty facts. He don't realize that a foundation can't be built on uneven ground.
Quoting Aaron Thomas to Ron Lauzon <=-
Me and Jeff have started a new tradition where we argue over the same stuff over and over. He's determined to be right, and that's nice I
guess, but he wants to use flowery words like "most of em" and
"usually" to back his faulty facts. He don't realize that a foundation can't be built on uneven ground.
But Lefties don't believe in objective truth. So they NEED to use the weasel words in order to create that "escape route" when they start to lose the argument.
Quoting Aaron Thomas to Ron Lauzon <=-I really can't spend the time arguing with someone as intelluctual as tree, so in the Twit List he goes.
Me and Jeff have started a new tradition where we argue over the same stuff over and over. He's determined to be right, and that's nice I guess, but he wants to use flowery words like "most of em" and "usually" to back his faulty facts. He don't realize that a foundatio can't be built on uneven ground.
Translation: "I can't win against Jeff, so I've given up trying and he's now locked out of my bubble."
And I suppose by your "party like nothing was going on" comment, you're referring to Pelosi's Chinatown visit. She did not tell anyone to party.
Then why not ban Americans traveling here from China? Were only the Chinese dangerous?
Trump also seriously downplayed the seriousness of the pandemic, the efSo did Pelosi, de Blassio, and Cuomo, too, when it suited them.
of which are still felt today.
No, they didn't. You're just trying to make Trump look at least on par with them. He's not.
No. The biggest racists I have met were not Republicans, unless voting straight-ticket Democrat makes you a Republican somehow. Ironically, two
of the most religiously-conservative people I know (one pro-LGBT, one not) are also both straight-ticket Democrats.
Then why don't the Confederate and Nazi flags only show up at right-wing shindigs (as part of the audience, not any counter-protest), and why aren't there any Pride flags among them? Weird, huh? When people tell you about themselves, listen.
I am none of the above, but am a registered Republican.You have fallen victim to the same fallacy as Aaron repeatedly does. The majority of racists and other bigots being Republican is not equivalent to the majority of Republicans being racist or other bigots.
I actually voted for Greg Abbott a couple of times as Attorney General because I liked the focus he put on catching deadbeat dads and internet predators. He changed a *lot* once he ran for governor.
To go back to a post someone made the other day (more than once, I think), supposedly all religious conservatives are somehow closet rapists and murders who have to follow the church to keep them from a life of violent crime.
I didn't say that they are, but there is a fairly strong correlation between being an anti-LGBT zealot (usually using religion as an excuse) and being a closet case. The misinformation that LGBT are disproportionately rapists or pedophiles is also a form of anti-LGBT bigotry.
If that is really true, it would not be much of a stretch to say that all of the white people who keep religiously pointing at others claiming racism, sexism, homophobia, etc., in everything they see are closeted members of one or all of the racist, sexist, homophobic, other bad -ists/-phobic groups.
Nice job debunking your own straw man there.
Our vax rates are starting to fall, but it is not because the vax is
not readily available. In many other countries, whose heatlh care systems are supposedly superior to ours, folks who wanted it didn't get it until after most of us did.
Socialized medicare. But the Propaganda Ministry doesn't want anyone to
talk about that.
And I suppose by your "party like nothing was going on" comment, you're referring to Pelosi's Chinatown visit. She did not tell anyone to party.So telling people to "come on" down to celebrate a holiday, because your area is "open for business" as usual, isn't an invitation to party like nothing is different? Have you ever been to a Chinese New Year's
nothing is different? Have you ever been to a Chinese New Year's celebration? They usually have "party" or "celebration" in the name. I
cannot imagine that Chinese New Year wouldn't be a party in a Chinatown. Otherwise, why go?
Would you go to a "party" or "celebration" and not expect to party?
And it wasn't just Pelosi. De Blassio said similar things. I believe Cuomo also did. Funny how they all suddenly decided that COVID was a problem only after their Chinese New Year celebrations were over.
Then why not ban Americans traveling here from China? Were only the Chin dangerous?Why not? Because if we don't allow our citizens to return, and China
then decides to kick them out, where do they go? It would make more
sense to allow them to return home and quarantine them when they get
here, just like it makes more sense for Chinese citizens to stay home. That is a silly argument to try to prove a point that Chinese were being targeted when told not to travel here from their country during a pandemic. <rolls eyes>
Closing your borders to your own citizens sounds authoritarian to me.
Trump also seriously downplayed the seriousness of the pandemic, efSo did Pelosi, de Blassio, and Cuomo, too, when it suited them.
of which are still felt today.
Would attempts to say that the slaves were better off as slaves than as free people count as an attempt to "enslave the minds of an entire race?"
Neo-nazis were present at the Charlottesville "Unite the Right" and were quite real.Haven't heard from them lately. Where are they hiding?
Certainly not in the pages of a book, as you alleged. They were at the insurrection, though, and can probably be found at Trump rallies or
local KKK marches.
larger group? I do not hate whites, blacks, or Puerto Ricans, but hey,
I blame the educational system. It's amazing how uneducated almost
every Trump-supporting conservative I know is; certainly, every one
that spouts nonsense like, "the Leftie Narrative" were the type that basically failed out of high school.
You know what they say... 50% of all Americans are of below-average intelligence. Given that this will, by definition, always be true, the only thing we can do is work to raise that average. And the first step towards doing that, I would think, is figuring out what's pulling it
down.
processing. He seems to think that "word for word" means to use a few of
You have fallen victim to the same fallacy as Aaron repeatedly d majority of racists and other bigots being Republican is not equ to the majority of Republicans being racist or other bigots.
There's no majority. You're letting a clip you saw on TV tell you abo the majority of Republicans.
And you still believe that I was talking about the majority of Republicans.
When you stop lying about stuff, we can move on. As for guilt, speak for yourself.
There's no majority. You're letting a clip you saw on TV tell you abo the majority of Republicans.
Your reading comprehension has not improved.
I really can't spend the time arguing with someone as intelluctual as tree, so in the Twit List he goes.
But Lefties don't believe in objective truth. So they NEED to use the weasel words in order to create that "escape route" when they start to lose the argument.
Translation: "I can't win against Jeff, so I've given up trying and he's now locked out of my bubble."
They'll always run away when confronted by facts and evidence,
because their position is unsupportable.
Would attempts to say that the slaves were better off as slaves than free people count as an attempt to "enslave the minds of an entire raI'm not defending that stuff - you're changing the subject. Democrats and
their media buddies are 'enslaving' blacks by trying to make them feel like victims of Republicans. Joe showing up at George Floyd's funeral
was a good example. Where was Joe when an unarmed latino man was killed
by Albuquerque Police? Where was that scumbag Al Sharpton? Not giving a **** is where they were.
Ok, so it was the KKK who committed the January 6 crimes. Why hasn't Joe condemned the KKK then? Has his membership not expired yet?Certainly not in the pages of a book, as you alleged. They were at th insurrection, though, and can probably be found at Trump rallies or local KKK marches.Neo-nazis were present at the Charlottesville "Unite the Ri and were quite real.Haven't heard from them lately. Where are they hiding?
larger group? I do not hate whites, blacks, or Puerto Ricans, but heyThat's what they all say, but their actions speak louder. It's ok, you guys look out for your own & I'll look out for mine. It's always been
that way and always will.
You know what they say... 50% of all Americans are of below-average intelligence. Given that this will, by definition, always be true, th only thing we can do is work to raise that average. And the first ste towards doing that, I would think, is figuring out what's pulling it down.With an anti-American attitude like that, it's obvious where you get
your news from.
processing. He seems to think that "word for word" means to use a fewThe media said "door-to-door" and I added "hitlist" to it while you pretended that it made a world of difference.
And you still believe that I was talking about the majority of Republicans.I get it. You think the majority of racists are Republicans, not the
other way around. But you're wrong; look at your own people: central americans are racist as hell, and if you don't know that, then you've
got to get out of your mom's basement for some air.
When you stop lying about stuff, we can move on. As for guilt, speak yourself.Let's move on so we see what else we can lie about.
Jeff said "Insurrectionists were waving confederate flags," and then he said "most racists are Trump supporters."There's no majority. You're letting a clip you saw on TV tell yo the majority of Republicans.Your reading comprehension has not improved.
Translation: "I can't win against Jeff, so I've given up trying and h now locked out of my bubble."But it's not a competition. TDS & Autism are a deadly combination, but when you throw insecurity on top of all that, you've got a huge mess.
They'll always run away when confronted by facts and evidence, because their position is unsupportable.Links to lousy non-government websites are not facts nor evidence.
I blame the educational system. It's amazing how uneducated almost every Trump-supporting conservative I know is; certainly, every one that spouts nonsense like, "the Leftie Narrative" were the type that basically failed out of high school.Leftie school of thought, it's nice to meet you. My name is 2006 University of Pennsylvania Dean's List graduate.
Leftie school of thought, it's nice to meet you. My name is 2006 University of Pennsylvania Dean's List graduate.
Jeff said "Insurrectionists were waving confederate flags," and then he said "most racists are Trump supporters."
They'll always run away when confronted by facts and evidence, because their position is unsupportable.
Links to lousy non-government websites are not facts nor evidence.
Quoting Aaron Thomas to Ron Lauzon <=-
But Lefties don't believe in objective truth. So they NEED to use the weasel words in order to create that "escape route" when they start to lose the argument.
This particular leftie uses all those broad adjectives all the time,
but then I can't use metaphors with him because I'm not being precise enough.
But Lefties don't believe in objective truth. So they NEED to use th weasel words in order to create that "escape route" when they start t lose the argument.This particular leftie uses all those broad adjectives all the time, but then I can't use metaphors with him because I'm not being precise enough.
The white supremacists and other conservatives who committed the insurrection have been widely condemned, except by other conservatives. Too close to home, eh?
I've met quite a few Central Americans and have visited Central America several times. I've never been treated in a racist manner.
On 29 Jul 2021, Mike Powell said the following...
And I suppose by your "party like nothing was going on" comment, you'reSo telling people to "come on" down to celebrate a holiday, because your area is "open for business" as usual, isn't an invitation to party like nothing is different? Have you ever been to a Chinese New Year's
referring to Pelosi's Chinatown visit. She did not tell anyone to party
Nope. Conducting business is not the same as partying.
nothing is different? Have you ever been to a Chinese New Year's celebration? They usually have "party" or "celebration" in the name. I
She did not say to come to any celebration. She said there was no reason to fear Chinatown because of Trump's "China virus" talk.
And it wasn't just Pelosi. De Blassio said similar things. I believe Cuomo also did. Funny how they all suddenly decided that COVID was a problem only after their Chinese New Year celebrations were over.They were countering the effect of Trump's racist and xenophobic remarks about the Chinese.
Closing your borders to your own citizens sounds authoritarian to me.
That would depend on the circumstances. When American doctors contracted Ebola in Africa, a lot of conservatives did not want them returning to this country for treatment.
So did Pelosi, de Blassio, and Cuomo, too, when it suited them.
Not nearly to the same degree. Trump still refuses to recommend vaccination.
There's no majority. You're letting a clip you saw on TV tell you ab
the majority of Republicans.
Your reading comprehension has not improved.
Jeff said "Insurrectionists were waving confederate flags," and then he said "most racists are Trump supporters."
They'll always run away when confronted by facts and evidence,
because their position is unsupportable.
Links to lousy non-government websites are not facts nor evidence.
You know what they say... 50% of all Americans are of below-average intelligence. Given that this will, by definition, always be true, tWith an anti-American attitude like that, it's obvious where you get your news from.
only thing we can do is work to raise that average. And the first st
towards doing that, I would think, is figuring out what's pulling it
down.
And it's obvious that you don't know how averages work.
The white supremacists and other conservatives who committed the insurrection have been widely condemned, except by other conservative Too close to home, eh?Which conservatives have failed to condemn Nancy's insurrection?
What good does condemning things do? I condemn earthquakes - let's see what good that does.
I've met quite a few Central Americans and have visited Central Ameri several times. I've never been treated in a racist manner.You're one of them. You didn't defeat them in the Spanish American war like I did. They're still angry about it.
Nope. Conducting business is not the same as partying.If you are inviting tourists, which she was, how many tourists do you
know that would be going somewhere like Chinatown to only conduct business?
She did not say to come to any celebration. She said there was no reason fear Chinatown because of Trump's "China virus" talk.Again, inviting tourists to visit.
Man, I would hate to go on any trips that you plan, if all we would be doing is conducting business and not enjoying the festivities going on around us.
They were countering the effect of Trump's racist and xenophobic remarks about the Chinese.By asking people to do things that we, by then, knew were not safe?
Legally, can we keep them out if their citizenship has not been revoked?Closing your borders to your own citizens sounds authoritarian to mThat would depend on the circumstances. When American doctors contracted Ebola in Africa, a lot of conservatives did not want them returning to t country for treatment.
Not nearly to the same degree. Trump still refuses to recommend vaccinatTrump is no longer in charge. Long past time for the current administration to get off their hindquarters, to stop blaming Snowba... err, Trump, and get something done regarding poor vaccination rates.
If 50% are below average, and 50% are above, who is the "average American"? Using that math, there are not any "average Americans"?And it's obvious that you don't know how averages work.You know what they say... 50% of all Americans are of below-av intelligence. Given that this will, by definition, always be t tWith an anti-American attitude like that, it's obvious where you ge your news from.
only thing we can do is work to raise that average. And the fi st
towards doing that, I would think, is figuring out what's pull it
down.
The first one could be correct. The second one is a matter of opinion.Jeff said "Insurrectionists were waving confederate flags," and then he "most racists are Trump supporters."There's no majority. You're letting a clip you saw on TV tell abYour reading comprehension has not improved.
the majority of Republicans.
AmeriI've met quite a few Central Americans and have visited Central
several times. I've never been treated in a racist manner.
You're one of them. You didn't defeat them in the Spanish Americanwar
like I did. They're still angry about it.
I'm one of them? That's news to me.
It sounds like you're the one still holding grudges.
And it's obvious that you don't know how averages work.
If 50% are below average, and 50% are above, who is the "average American"?
Using that math, there are not any "average Americans"?
I've reached the point where I've decided to go "old school".
I've always preferred to call BBSs on my vintage hardware. So now that
I have a real 386, I decided to get Blue Wave up and running. Blue Wave has a really nice Twit Filter.
So what Ron's saying here is that he's going to comment on my posts
*without actually reading my posts*.
We should try to keep moving forward with new topics and stop reverting back
to the same old arguments. We're both guilty of it. Let's be more like the 5!
Me and Jeff have started a new tradition where we argue over the same
stuff over and over. He's determined to be right, and that's nice I
guess, but he wants to use flowery words like "most of em" and
"usually" to back his faulty facts. He don't realize that a foundation
can't be built on uneven ground.
I really can't spend the time arguing with someone as intelluctual as tree, so in the Twit List he goes.
On 07-31-21 15:07, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Jeff Thiele about Re: PARTY at Jeff's!!! <=-
Not nearly to the same degree. Trump still refuses to recommend vaccination.
Trump is no longer in charge. Long past time for the current
Jeff said "Insurrectionists were waving confederate flags," and then said "most racists are Trump supporters."
...and the conclusion you drew still does not follow.
The funny thing is, you people just keep moving the goal posts until everything that is not strictly aligned with your world view is
neither fact nor evidence. Your ability to ignore any and all disconfirming evidence is astounding and ridiculous.
I'm not familiar with any insurrection by "Nancy." If you're referring
to the 1/6 insurrection, most of the Republicans in Congress have
refused to condemn it, and those who didn't refuse you called "RHINOS."
What good does condemning things do? I condemn earthquakes - let's se what good that does.
Condemning actions by people is different from condemning natural disasters.
Links to lousy non-government websites are not facts nor evidence.
Be careful of links to government ones, too. The staff that supports the sites is often underfunded and it is not uncommon to find two different pages on the same site with confusing or contradictory information.
The second one is a fact. Whether it's a correct fact or an incorrect
one is a matter of opioion. Either way, it makes no claims about "the majority of Republicans." That's 100% Aaron's difficulties with set theory.
Trump is no longer in charge, but he still yields a strong influence on
a large group of people and politicians. Those are a large part of the
And yet, like a lead balloon, Trump continues to peddle his fake
claims of voter fraud, with all his followers believing every word
he utters ...
I'm not familiar with any insurrection by "Nancy." If you're referrin to the 1/6 insurrection, most of the Republicans in Congress have refused to condemn it, and those who didn't refuse you called "RHINOSI condemn all rioting and all protesting (which are often one and the same) but 2 of the biggest RHINOS are Marjorie Taylor Greene & Matt
Gaetz, who mistakenly think they're going to get votes by coming to the aid of the rioters, but then again, it worked for Biden.
I condemn people who are bitchy and uptight.What good does condemning things do? I condemn earthquakes - let what good that does.Condemning actions by people is different from condemning natural disasters.
The second one is a fact. Whether it's a correct fact or an incorrect one is a matter of opioion. Either way, it makes no claims about "the majority of Republicans." That's 100% Aaron's difficulties with set theory.We all need to take ENG 101 so we can learn the difference between fact & opinion. Just don't take the course at Bard College.
Look at what you just said before you accuse me of having difficulties.
I haven't seen many Trump supporters lately.
On 08-01-21 15:49, Lee Lofaso <=-
spoke to Mike Powell about Humor <=-
Ever heard of a median?
I condemn all rioting and all protesting (which are often one and the same) but 2 of the biggest RHINOS are Marjorie Taylor Greene & Matt Gaetz, who mistakenly think they're going to get votes by coming to the aid of the rioters, but then again, it worked for Biden.
I haven't seen many Trump supporters lately.
I have, starting with the majority of those who refuse to get vaccinated. Besides, we've still got August 13 coming up, when Mike Lindell is going
What makes you think the unvaccinated are Trump supporters? He told everyone to vaccinate, and he even takes credit for the vaccine's development.I haven't seen many Trump supporters lately.I have, starting with the majority of those who refuse to get vaccina Besides, we've still got August 13 coming up, when Mike Lindell is go
Quoting Aaron Thomas to Jeff Thiele <=-
What makes you think the unvaccinated are Trump supporters? He told everyone to vaccinate, and he even takes credit for the vaccine's development.
What makes you think the unvaccinated are Trump supporters? He told everyone to vaccinate, and he even takes credit for the vaccine's development.
Quoting Aaron Thomas to Jeff Thiele <=-Jeff still has TDS. Leftie evidence (i.e. none) shows that it's frequently a terminal disease.
What makes you think the unvaccinated are Trump supporters? He told everyone to vaccinate, and he even takes credit for the vaccine's development.
What makes you think the unvaccinated are Trump supporters? He told everyone to vaccinate, and he even takes credit for the vaccine's development.
Jeff still has TDS. Leftie evidence (i.e. none) shows that it's frequently a terminal disease.
I haven't seen many Trump supporters lately.
I have, starting with the majority of those who refuse to get vaccinated.
Besides, we've still got August 13 coming up, when Mike Lindell is going
What makes you think the unvaccinated are Trump supporters? He told everyone to vaccinate, and he even takes credit for the vaccine's development.
What makes you think the unvaccinated are Trump supporters? He told ever to vaccinate, and he even takes credit for the vaccine's development.He did say "majority" but I have seen no numbers that support that. In this state, one of the areas with the lowest vaccination rate is an
urban area where Trump lost big. Based on what I have seen on the national news, we are not the only state where this is true.
What makes you think the unvaccinated are Trump supporters? He told everyone to vaccinate, and he even takes credit for the vaccine's development.
Most. but not all. That's what the data says.
http://kff.org/policy-watch/the-red-blue-divide-in-covid-19-vaccination-ra
He told everyone to vaccinate,
When and how did he do that? Unlike other politicians who made an
example by getting vaccinated in public view, Trump got vaccinated in secret and no one knew about it for months. If he would be like the
What makes you think the unvaccinated are Trump supporters? He told everyone to vaccinate, and he even takes credit for the vaccine's development.
Not all, but most. For example, those who don't want anything even remotely associated with stem cells injected into their bodies.
They forgot to survey me. Cherry-picked survey groups are unreliable.What makes you think the unvaccinated are Trump supporters? He t everyone to vaccinate, and he even takes credit for the vaccine' development.Most. but not all. That's what the data says. http://kff.org/policy-watch/the-red-blue-divide-in-covid-19-vaccinati
I don't understand your example. People have been against stem cell research at least since the 80s. That can't have anything to do withWhat makes you think the unvaccinated are Trump supporters? He t everyone to vaccinate, and he even takes credit for the vaccine' development.Not all, but most. For example, those who don't want anything even remotely associated with stem cells injected into their bodies.
Trump support.
On 06 Aug 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...
Or if they defended Trump...They might both be supporters of the candidate in question... I prove they are not, and they seem likely to be... but they don't represent all of them.If they donated to Trump, or if they voted for Trump, I'll call em "T Supporters," but the left want us to give the title to people who did opposite of what his real supporters stand for.
About 66% of eligible voters participated in the 2020 election.
Of those, 1.8% voted for a third-party candidate.
vaccine. The unvaccinated group are younger, more likely to identify as Republicans or be Republican-leaning, and more likely to have lower
levels of education and lower incomes than the vaccinated population."
What makes you think the unvaccinated are Trump supporters? He told ever to vaccinate, and he even takes credit for the vaccine's development.
He did say "majority" but I have seen no numbers that support that. In this state, one of the areas with the lowest vaccination rate is an
urban area where Trump lost big. Based on what I have seen on the national news, we are not the only state where this is true.
vaccine. The unvaccinated group are younger, more likely to identify Republicans or be Republican-leaning, and more likely to have lower levels of education and lower incomes than the vaccinated population.That sounds like a bogus report based on bogus research.
Any hypothesis desired can be found on the web.
How many Trump supporting non-vaxxers have you met in person?
He might be right, but kff.com? Sounds like crap. And what good does itWhat makes you think the unvaccinated are Trump supporters? He told to vaccinate, and he even takes credit for the vaccine's developmenHe did say "majority" but I have seen no numbers that support that. I this state, one of the areas with the lowest vaccination rate is an urban area where Trump lost big. Based on what I have seen on the national news, we are not the only state where this is true.
do for people to study correlations between Trump-support and vaxination-rates? Just to blame more stuff on Trump? It's ridiculous.
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He told everyone to vaccinate,
When and how did he do that? Unlike other politicians who made an
He was bragging about the vaccine while it was in development. On
March 17, 2021, he told supporters to "get the vaccine, it works, I recommend it."
Shortly later, Biden announced that the vaccines would be available to
all Americans by summer.
example by getting vaccinated in public view, Trump got vaccinated in secret and no one knew about it for months. If he would be like the
Trump was already out of office when he got the vaccine. The media
doesn't want him doing anything positive on TV, so they don't allow him to.
Now that the whole country knows that Trump took the vaccine, that's
still not changing anyone's minds; we're not skipping the vaccine
because of what some failure 1-term president had to say about it.
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What makes you think the unvaccinated are Trump supporters? He told everyone to vaccinate, and he even takes credit for the vaccine's development.
Not all, but most. For example, those who don't want anything even remotely associated with stem cells injected into their bodies.
I don't understand your example. People have been against stem cell research at least since the 80s. That can't have anything to do with
Trump support.
One major group of those who are refusing the vaccine are Trump supporters. If Trump were to come out as strong as others have in support, they might listen and get the vaccine. Then we might all be protected. From what I have read, Trump made a statement during an interview on Fox. I'm guessing that statement might have been buried
and not a powerful endorsement.
I said that conservatives and right-wingers have a hard time
with nuance. This is demonstrably true. I did NOT say that
leftists or liberals do not have a similar hard time (some
do, though it bears pointing out at significantly lower rates
than those on the right).
The predictable response was something along the lines of,
"Oh yeah? Well, liberals do too!" Which is, of course, a
strawman argument because I never said that they did not.
I don't think that is exclusive to right-wingers. My observations are
that it may be more of a HUMAN trait. For example, you seem to make a
lot of assumptions for someone who's supposedly able to think in nuances.
I think one of us (not I) does indeed have some sort of comprehension issue.
We should encourage young people to go out and get jobs as Trump-blamers because it seems like there is a lot of demand in that industry.
They forgot to survey me. Cherry-picked survey groups are unreliable.
So if you don't get surveyed, the data must be cherry-picked? Interesting opinion, but false.
Curiously, it also turns out that most of the people arrested in conjunction with the 1/6 insurrection didn't even bother to vote.
The largest group of people not getting vaccinated are Blacks and Latinos and w
ites in the 18 to 30 y.o. range. Common thread between all of them is mis-trust
of the government.
I don't know many people who answer political surveys when they get called. I hang up on them. I was getting multiple calls per week upThey forgot to survey me. Cherry-picked survey groups are unreliablSo if you don't get surveyed, the data must be cherry-picked? Interestin opinion, but false.
until the election, and still get some now.
I am wondering what kind of people do answer them?
Curiously, it also turns out that most of the people arrested in conjunc with the 1/6 insurrection didn't even bother to vote.That is interesting. I would assume a true Trumpster, or Bidenster,
would have voted. I could see maybe the Bidensters not voting because they were afraid to catch COVID but, since the Trumpsters are supposedly not afraid of COVID, I don't see it there.
The predictable response was something along the lines of,
"Oh yeah? Well, liberals do too!" Which is, of course, a
strawman argument because I never said that they did not.
Nope. Not even close.
Here is my initial response, with some new
emphasis added:
I don't think that is exclusive to right-wingers. My observations are that it may be more of a HUMAN trait. For example, you seem to make a lot of assumptions for someone who's supposedly able to think in nuanc
I don't see anything there that even vaguely resembles "liberals do,
too!" Only that I believe it is a human trait, and one that you also exhibit. So, I stand by my statement:
I think one of us (not I) does indeed have some sort of comprehension issue.
It isn't that hard. I would be nice and offer to use small words and explain it to you, as you offered to for me, but I don't know how I can make my "HUMAN trait" statement any clearer.
Better luck next time.
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One major group of those who are refusing the vaccine are Trump supporters. If Trump were to come out as strong as others have in support, they might listen and get the vaccine. Then we might all be protected. From what I have read, Trump made a statement during an interview on Fox. I'm guessing that statement might have been buried
and not a powerful endorsement.
The largest group of people not getting vaccinated are Blacks and
Latinos and whites in the 18 to 30 y.o. range. Common thread between
all of them is mis-trust of the government. Maybe instead
of blaming someone whi is NOT in office we start putting
some blame on the one who is in office and his teams
erratic messages to the public.
http://kff.org/policy-watch/the-red-blue-divide-in-covid-19-vaccThey forgot to survey me. Cherry-picked survey groups are unreliable.
So if you don't get surveyed, the data must be cherry-picked? Interesting opinion, but false.
Curiously, it also turns out that most of the people arrested in conjunction with the 1/6 insurrection didn't even bother to vote.
I've never been surveyed for anything. I don't know anyone who has been surveyed either. I've never had a phone call from kff.com or Politifact.So if you don't get surveyed, the data must be cherry-picked? Interes opinion, but false.http://kff.org/policy-watch/the-red-blue-divide-in-covid-19They forgot to survey me. Cherry-picked survey groups are unreli
All the talk (in the media) about "Trump-districts" is a form of
division that acts as a thermostat in a hatred ventilation system.
Curiously, it also turns out that most of the people arrested in conjunction with the 1/6 insurrection didn't even bother to vote.That's not very supportive on their part.
Because its results don't match your beliefs? You're going to have to do better than that.
How many Trump supporting non-vaxxers have you met in person?
How is that in any way relevant to the conversation?
Because its results don't match your beliefs? You're going to have to better than that.Very funny! Kff.com? I can show you links to meaningless websites too.
And you're the one telling me to do better?
Why don't we do something more meaningful with our network of politics nerds? A lot of good could be accomplished if we all agreed on something that can help our country.
There is a lot of under-developed land in the political tiera; almost 2022, still no updated immigration and/or border bill. (Not sure why the dems are stalling lol jk)
The news is bs, almost as bad as kff.com. I know plenty of former Trump voters who are vaccinated. (Real people that I know - not professional research)How many Trump supporting non-vaxxers have you met in person?How is that in any way relevant to the conversation?
I go by what I see first hand. There are a lot of political issues that can and should be resolved already. Trump wasn't perfect. He should have called on congress to draft an immigration bill. I can't give Trump
praise for his executive orders, despite the fact that it may have saved thousands of lives, because they were just that (executive orders.) Congress moves too slowly, especially under nancy. (McConnell was also guilty of it from what I heard.) They both are probably holding out on
the American people while they look for the best deal to persue for themselves. At least Nancy's not as open about it as Biden.
I saw in another message that you said that kff.org is the real deal,
but come on. If it's not one fake thing it's another. How about kff.gov? Or are you looking for science fiction?
Kaiser rolls are good for parties. Get a meat and cheese platter and a knife and serve it up ;) But the other Kaser thing is total crap! It's about as reliable as Bard College's "school of journalism."
Curiously, it also turns out that most of the people arrested in conjunThat is interesting. I would assume a true Trumpster, or Bidenster, would have voted. I could see maybe the Bidensters not voting because they were afraid to catch COVID but, since the Trumpsters are supposedly not afraid of COVID, I don't see it there.
with the 1/6 insurrection didn't even bother to vote.
I get the distinct feeling that the people who participated in the insurrection were not the most intelligent representatives of our democracy.
Again, you're engaging in a strawman argument. Your statement was,
"I don't think this is exclusive to right-wingers." Yes, but I never
said that it was. I said that right-wingers exhibit that trait.
The messages from the scientists are changing because the cirumstances
and data are changing. That is not being erratic, it is keeping up with
what the data says.
I get the distinct feeling that the people who participated in the insurrection were not the most intelligent representatives of our democrI share that feeling.
Again, you're engaging in a strawman argument. Your statement was,
"I don't think this is exclusive to right-wingers." Yes, but I never said that it was. I said that right-wingers exhibit that trait.
You inferred that it was to cause trouble. That is a nuance
that is easy to pick up on.
You just don't like being corrected. Another nuance easy to pick up on.
I get the distinct feeling that the people who participated in the insurrection were not the most intelligent representatives of our democrI share that feeling.
Perhaps that's why Trump "love[s] the poorly educated." (Las Vegas, Feb. 24, 2016]
Since they didn't vote at all, I would suspect that is not why. :)Perhaps that's why Trump "love[s] the poorly educated." (Las Vegas, Feb. 2016]I get the distinct feeling that the people who participated in the insurrection were not the most intelligent representatives of our democrI share that feeling.
They are certainly two of the significant unvaccinated groups in my
state. Do you have any numbers to support that they are the largest?
I am not blaming Trump. There is a big difference between blaming Trump and wishing he would make a strong statement to those of his supporters who are refusing to get the vaccine.
The messages from the scientists are changing because the cirumstances
and data are changing. That is not being erratic, it is keeping up with what the data says.
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The messages from the scientists are changing because the cirumstances
and data are changing. That is not being erratic, it is keeping up with what the data says.
There have been times lately when they have not been erring on the
side of caution, which seems very odd. They knew Delta was coming, they knew it was more contagious, they should have known that vaccinated
people could get it... why'd they relax their stance?
I am not a scientists but that doesn't make sense.
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I don't know many people who answer political surveys when they get called. I hang up on them. I was getting multiple calls per week up
until the election, and still get some now.
I am wondering what kind of people do answer them?
People who have no job and sit around doing nothing. You know...
Lefties.
On 11 Aug 2021, Mike Powell said the following...
Since they didn't vote at all, I would suspect that is not why. :)Perhaps that's why Trump "love[s] the poorly educated." (Las Vegas, FebI get the distinct feeling that the people who participated in thI share that feeling.
insurrection were not the most intelligent representatives of our
democr
2016]
They served their purpose.
There have been times lately when they have not been erring on the
side of caution, which seems very odd. They knew Delta was coming, they knew it was more contagious, they should have known that vaccinated people could get it... why'd they relax their stance?
I am not a scientists but that doesn't make sense.
I agree that it certainly seems that way. At best, one could chalk it
up to inertia.
I don't know many people who answer political surveys when they get called. I hang up on them. I was getting multiple calls per week up until the election, and still get some now.
I've had a policy for a long time now that if I get a call without
caller ID that I do not answer and let it go to voicemail. So they don't
call me.
They served their purpose.Perhaps that's why Trump "love[s] the poorly educated." (Las Vega FebSince they didn't vote at all, I would suspect that is not why. :)
2016]
All the talk (in the media) about "Trump-districts" is a form of division that acts as a thermostat in a hatred ventilation system.
It's based on actual voting data. "Districts" are political subdivisions. What's more, they're artificially concentrated due to gerrymandering. Do you want to deny that people with different voting preferences have definite differences of opinion?
That's not very supportive on their part.
They made up for it in spades by trying to overturn an election they didn't even participate in.
First you're going to have to prove that kff.org (not kff.com) is a "meaningless website." Do you have anything other than a personal
opinion?
He was bragging about the vaccine while it was in development. On March 17, 2021, he told supporters to "get the vaccine, it works, I recommend it."
Other public figures had said the same message a few months before that.
You are wrong. He got his first dose in January in the Whitehouse, then second dose in Florida.
One major group of those who are refusing the vaccine are Trump supporters. If Trump were to come out as strong as others have in
I know what you mean. There's data that shows which counties and/or districts where Trump got more votes than Biden. But at this point, the media has people brainwashed into hating others. They've got blackAll the talk (in the media) about "Trump-districts" is a form of division that acts as a thermostat in a hatred ventilation systeIt's based on actual voting data. "Districts" are political subdivisi What's more, they're artificially concentrated due to gerrymandering. you want to deny that people with different voting preferences have definite differences of opinion?
people attacking asians, blacks attacking jews, they've even turned most of America against Israel. So now what happens to people labeled as
"Trump district voters?" The media has America trained to sniff out
those Trump supporters & even bite them if they try to run.
They didn't try very hard. Could Trump be idiot enough to think that 20 hillbillies with shotguns were gonna scare Mike Pence? It looked a lot more theatrical to me, but then again I wasn't there.That's not very supportive on their part.They made up for it in spades by trying to overturn an election they didn't even participate in.
First you're going to have to prove that kff.org (not kff.com) is a "meaningless website." Do you have anything other than a personal opinion?Kaiser Family Foundation is capable of concluding a survey with whichever findings they desire.
If I wanted to prove something to somebody, I'd use a photo, a video, or interviews with real people.
I get what you're saying about "You can't measure the world based on
your own experiences," but why not? What do you think the cavemen did? People learn through experiences, not through third parties.
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I have noticed that my cell phone rarely identifies the caller like my
old land line did. It only IDs the phone number. If I don't recognize it, I don't answer. Sometimes I am wrong and I should have recognized it... they usually leave a message. :)
People who have no job and sit around doing nothing. You know... Lefties.
Funny how the overwhelming number of people on public
assistance are political conservatives.
It's awkward that you would have information like that. When you applied for public assistance, did they ask you about your political beliefs?
They made up for it in spades by trying to overturn an election didn't even participate in.They didn't try very hard. Could Trump be idiot enough to think that hillbillies with shotguns were gonna scare Mike Pence? It looked a lo more theatrical to me, but then again I wasn't there.
So now it was just "20 hillbillies?" Against your previous estimate of what, 2 "security guards?"
I hope you enjoy being laughed at.
Cavemen almost certainly *did* learn through third parties. They wrote
on the walls. They were smart enough to know that if someone ate some item, then got sick and died, it was probably not a good idea to eat
But you're the one being funny! Are we talking about security guards or rioters?So now it was just "20 hillbillies?" Against your previous estimate o what, 2 "security guards?"They made up for it in spades by trying to overturn an elec didn't even participate in.They didn't try very hard. Could Trump be idiot enough to think hillbillies with shotguns were gonna scare Mike Pence? It looked more theatrical to me, but then again I wasn't there.
I hope you enjoy being laughed at.
20 drunken rioters vs 2 security guards, is what it looked like on TV. Trump, world's dumbest man, thought that 20 people were going to murder Mike Pence, and all of congress, that way he could remain in office. Right?
Cavemen almost certainly *did* learn through third parties. They wrot on the walls. They were smart enough to know that if someone ate some item, then got sick and died, it was probably not a good idea to eatDepending on third parties for information is cavemanlike. They have agendas. Some of these third parties have people to answer to; if they
get caught lying it hurts their ratings a little. But kff.org doesn't
care if people find them faulty, as long as their fake statistics get swallowed by the herd.
According to ultracorepower.com, you can gain 1-2 inches in penis size by snorting their powder every day for 6 to 8 weeks. They are as believable as Kaiser Family Foundation. Since I love what ultracorepower says so much, I want to hear what they have to say about illegal immigration statistics too.
Since I love what ultracorepower says so much, I want to hear what
they have to say about illegal immigration statistics too.
I see. You have zero ability to determine the reliability of a news source,
and you seem to be pre-occupied with the size of your penis. Interesting.
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20 drunken rioters vs 2 security guards, is what it looked like on TV. Trump, world's dumbest man, thought that 20 people were going to murder Mike Pence, and all of congress, that way he could remain in office. Right?
20 drunken rioters vs 2 security guards, is what it looked like on TV Trump, world's dumbest man, thought that 20 people were going to murd Mike Pence, and all of congress, that way he could remain in office. Right?Where are you getting your numbers from? There were many more than that on both sides. In fact, charges have been placed against nearly 500 of the insurectionists. And, five security guards have died.
20 drunken rioters vs 2 security guards, is what it looked like on TV Trump, world's dumbest man, thought that 20 people were going to murd Mike Pence, and all of congress, that way he could remain in office. Right?
Where are you getting your numbers from? There were many more than that on both sides. In fact, charges have been placed against nearly 500 of the insurectionists. And, five security guards have died.
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