• Bidens Impeachable offense

    From Jeff Squires@1:120/457 to All on Thursday, August 05, 2021 17:37:16
    So The CDC issues an eviction moratorium and the Biden administration get sued and a lower court says the moratorium is unconstitutional which is upheld by the supreme court saying that only congress can continue the moratorium. Congress decides not to take it up and leaves for vacation. So the Biden administration has the CDC issue another eviction moratorium after he said he talked to constitutional scholars and most said they thought it was unconstitutional but found a couple who though it might not be. Of course circle back Jen tells reporters the Joe will do anything to keep people in there homes and when asked abouts it constitutionality she replies with "I don't think most people are concerned with the legality of it." So by violating the Supreme Courts decision President Biden has committed a impeachable offense.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Jeff Squires on Thursday, August 05, 2021 17:51:05
    On 05 Aug 2021, Jeff Squires said the following...
    So The CDC issues an eviction moratorium and the Biden administration
    get sued and a lower court says the moratorium is unconstitutional which is upheld by the supreme court saying that only congress can continue
    the moratorium. Congress decides not to take it up and leaves for

    Except that's not really what happened, is it? In reality, the Supreme Court did not uphold the lower court's decision but voted 5-4 to uphold the moratorium. Justice Kavanaugh, although he voted to uphold the moratorium, wrote that he would be unlikely to do so again if the moratorium extended
    past July 31 unless it was passed by Congress.

    the moratorium. Congress decides not to take it up and leaves for vacation. So the Biden administration has the CDC issue another eviction moratorium after he said he talked to constitutional scholars and most said they thought it was unconstitutional but found a couple who though
    it might not be. Of course circle back Jen tells reporters the Joe will

    It is not unconstitutional under the current SCOTUS ruling, but might very
    well be found so if it goes to the Supreme Court again due to Kavanaugh's threat. The Supreme Court did not rule that the moratorium must end by July
    31, or that it must be approved by Congress. Both of those things came from Kavanaugh's written opinion.

    it might not be. Of course circle back Jen tells reporters the Joe will
    do anything to keep people in there homes and when asked abouts it constitutionality she replies with "I don't think most people are concerned with the legality of it." So by violating the Supreme Courts

    Its legality is for the Supreme Court to decide (again, and if it gets that far, which I think it likely will).

    concerned with the legality of it." So by violating the Supreme Courts decision President Biden has committed a impeachable offense.

    Biden did not violate the Supreme Court's decision.

    Jeff.

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  • From Jeff Squires@1:120/457 to Jeff Thiele on Friday, August 06, 2021 18:20:47
    Except that's not really what happened, is it? In reality, the Supreme Court did not uphold the lower court's decision but voted 5-4 to uphold the moratorium. Justice Kavanaugh, although he voted to uphold the moratorium, wrote that he would be unlikely to do so again if the moratorium extended past July 31 unless it was passed by Congress.

    And that is what I said, the Supreme court let the moratorium go to July 31st but to continue it pass that date congress would have to pass a bill...

    It is not unconstitutional under the current SCOTUS ruling, but might
    very well be found so if it goes to the Supreme Court again due to Kavanaugh's threat. The Supreme Court did not rule that the moratorium must end by July 31, or that it must be approved by Congress. Both of those things came from Kavanaugh's written opinion.

    They court said that the moratorium could continue ONLY till July 31st AFTER that Congress would need to pass a bill. Biden wnet ahead and had the CDC pass another moratorium (which they have no legal authority to do) thumbing his nose at the supreme court.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Jeff Squires on Friday, August 06, 2021 17:48:14
    On 06 Aug 2021, Jeff Squires said the following...
    Except that's not really what happened, is it? In reality, the Suprem Court did not uphold the lower court's decision but voted 5-4 to upho the moratorium. Justice Kavanaugh, although he voted to uphold the moratorium, wrote that he would be unlikely to do so again if the moratorium extended past July 31 unless it was passed by Congress.
    And that is what I said, the Supreme court let the moratorium go to July 31st but to continue it pass that date congress would have to pass a bill...

    Nope, there was nothing in the Supreme Court's ruling about July 31st. To *stop* it being continued past July 31st, it would have to go back to the Supreme Court, at which time Kavanaugh has written in his opinion - not the ruling - that a law passed by Congress would be required for it to retain his vote.

    It is not unconstitutional under the current SCOTUS ruling, but might very well be found so if it goes to the Supreme Court again due to Kavanaugh's threat. The Supreme Court did not rule that the moratoriu must end by July 31, or that it must be approved by Congress. Both of those things came from Kavanaugh's written opinion.
    They court said that the moratorium could continue ONLY till July 31st AFTER that Congress would need to pass a bill. Biden wnet ahead and had the CDC pass another moratorium (which they have no legal authority to
    do) thumbing his nose at the supreme court.

    The Supreme Court said no such thing. You're confusing the Supreme Court
    ruling with Justice Kavanaugh's written opinion. Those are two very different things.

    Jeff.

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  • From Jeff Squires@1:120/457 to Jeff Thiele on Sunday, August 08, 2021 07:57:15
    Nope, there was nothing in the Supreme Court's ruling about July 31st. To *stop* it being continued past July 31st, it would have to go back to the Supreme Court, at which time Kavanaugh has written in his opinion - not the ruling - that a law passed by Congress would be required for it to retain his vote.

    So who is Kavanaugh? Oh wait he is the chief justice of the supreme court... So your trying to say his legal opinion has no sway? LOL

    The Supreme Court said no such thing. You're confusing the Supreme Court ruling with Justice Kavanaugh's written opinion. Those are two very different things.

    Nope, the Supreme Courts ruling was the the moratorium could stay in place till July 31st to allow funds from the Cares act to be sent out (and why aren't states getting the funds out to people that need them?) Bottom line is the CDC can't make laws and this will end up in front of the Supreme Court again and they will strike down this new moratorium.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Jeff Squires on Sunday, August 08, 2021 11:05:26
    On 08 Aug 2021, Jeff Squires said the following...
    Nope, there was nothing in the Supreme Court's ruling about July 31st *stop* it being continued past July 31st, it would have to go back to Supreme Court, at which time Kavanaugh has written in his opinion - n the ruling - that a law passed by Congress would be required for it t retain his vote.
    So who is Kavanaugh? Oh wait he is the chief justice of the supreme court... So your trying to say his legal opinion has no sway? LOL

    John Roberts is the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. I don't think you
    know how opinions work.

    The Supreme Court said no such thing. You're confusing the Supreme Co ruling with Justice Kavanaugh's written opinion. Those are two very different things.
    Nope, the Supreme Courts ruling was the the moratorium could stay in
    place till July 31st to allow funds from the Cares act to be sent out
    (and why aren't states getting the funds out to people that need them?) Bottom line is the CDC can't make laws and this will end up in front of the Supreme Court again and they will strike down this new moratorium.

    That's exactly how it's supposed to work, yes.

    Jeff.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Jeff Squires on Monday, August 09, 2021 14:21:58
    Hello Jeff,

    Nope, there was nothing in the Supreme Court's ruling about July
    31st. To
    *stop* it being continued past July 31st, it would have to go back to
    the
    Supreme Court, at which time Kavanaugh has written in his opinion -
    not
    the ruling - that a law passed by Congress would be required for it
    to
    retain his vote.

    So who is Kavanaugh? Oh wait he is the chief justice of the supreme court...

    John Roberts is the Chief Justice of the USSC, dumbfuck.

    --Lee

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to JEFF SQUIRES on Monday, August 09, 2021 08:27:00
    Quoting Jeff Squires to Jeff Thiele <=-

    Bottom line is the CDC can't make laws and this will end up in
    front of the Supreme Court again and they will strike down this new moratorium.

    This is one of the problems with the 4th branch of Gov't: Bureaucracy.

    Remember Pelosi's "you have to pass it to find out what's in it"? That
    was because the Legislature has ceded authority to the Bureaucracy.

    So the Legislature has effectively passed a law that says
    "Some-Gov't-Agency has the authority to create the rules on some-topic". Effectively giving law making power to the Bureaucracy.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Ron Lauzon on Tuesday, August 10, 2021 20:24:14
    Hello Ron,

    Bottom line is the CDC can't make laws and this will end up in
    front of the Supreme Court again and they will strike down this new
    moratorium.

    This is one of the problems with the 4th branch of Gov't: Bureaucracy.

    Bureaucracy is the greatest invention of mankind since the wheel.
    Allowed for the formation of the 5-man hunting club, the team that
    always took home the bacon as women remained barefoot and pregnant.

    --Lee

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