Michael (fortunately already vaccinated twice and thus protected against the greatest Covid-19 effects)
There are proven effective vaccines against COVID-19, why are these guys railing against it? I don't understand the logic.
On 08-06-21 18:58, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Michael Mrak about Re: Covid vaccinations an <=-
There are proven effective vaccines against COVID-19, why are these guys railing against it? I don't understand the logic.
There are politicians here who are against "mandatory vaccinations."
They don't want us to be forced at knifepoint to inject the novel
vaccine.
On 08-08-21 07:15, Ron Lauzon <=-
spoke to Michael Mrak about Covid vaccinations and ri <=-
I find it interesting to observe, not only in the U.S. but also in
Europe: in regions represented by right-wing populists (or whose
citizens are seduced there) there are significantly more vaccination opponents than in other regions.
Just a "right wing people are stupid" Narrative set up.
And there, everywhere, the number of sick people is now exploding and hospitals are once again reaching their capacity limits.
Hospitals are reaching their capacity because they have low capacity
due to socialized medicine. Just another Leftie "things are bad, not because we have bad policies, but because people just won't do what we dictate."
In the USA I notice this e.g. in Florida, Texas etc. where right-wing populists are also in the majority and violently oppose the
government's vaccination campaigns.
A continuation of the "right wing people are stupid" Narrative.
Unlike Lefties (i.e. sheeple), intelligent people can think for
themselves and don't need to be told what to do by their "master".
Unlike Lefties, intelligent people believe that they are
the best to decide for
themselves what's best for themselves.
Now I ask myself, why do these people (can they even be called politicians) not value the lives of their constituents?
Oooo... The "They are not compassionate..." strawman that the Lefties like to trot out. "Those people are bad because they are not nice to
the lazy and the stupid."
The reason you cannot explain their behavior is because they are far
more intelligent than you can ever hope to be.
There are proven effective vaccines against COVID-19, why are these
guys railing against it? I don't understand the logic.
Becuse they don't get their Marching Orders (i.e. "news") from CNN.
The vaccine isn't a vaccine. Read the history of the Polio
vaccine if you want
to
see what a real vaccine does.
There are effective treatment against COVID. But the Left keep
blocking any news about those from getting out or blocking doctors from using them.
Michael (fortunately already vaccinated twice and thus protected
against the greatest Covid-19 effects)
If you truely believe that, I wonder how you can even tie your shoes
in the morning.
In other words, they would rather that you or your neighbors get
severely sick or even die.
On 08-09-21 06:29, Jeff Squires <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Covid vaccinations a <=-
In other words, they would rather that you or your neighbors get
severely sick or even die.
What if one of your loved ones got the vaccine and suffered
a bad reaction to it and died? How would you feel then?
Better yet what if you where told that you were required to
receive ever vaccine that is out there JUST to make sure
you don't get someone sick....
Have you had your Covid vaccine? Your Singles vaccine? Smallpox?
Collera? Yellow fever? Polio? Measles? Whooping cough? Diphtheria?
I find it interesting to observe, not only in the U.S. but also in Europe: in regions represented by right-wing populists (or whose citizens are seduced there) there are significantly more vaccination opponents than in other regions.
In Europe, this can be seen in the former Eastern bloc countries, for example, where right-wing populists with strong slogans have now come to power in many places.
There, people are not nearly as widely vaccinated.
This also applies to regions in Germany (former GDR) where people are also more likely to vote for the right-wing populist AFD.
And there, everywhere, the number of sick people is now exploding and hospitals are once again reaching their capacity limits.
In the USA I notice this e.g. in Florida, Texas etc. where right-wing populists are also in the majority and violently oppose the government's vaccination campaigns.
Now I ask myself, why do these people (can they even be called politicians)
not value the lives of their constituents?
Or are people for these persons just brainless electoral cattle that are good for maximizing votes but for which they are not responsible in any form?
Otherwise, I can not explain the behavior of these people (as I said worldwide).
There are proven effective vaccines against COVID-19, why are these guys railing against it? I don't understand the logic.
Michael (fortunately already vaccinated twice and thus protected against the
greatest Covid-19 effects)
I would feel bad, but for every single such case there are hundreds of cases of those who get sick and die because they did not get the
vaccine.
Just fine -- I have done that to protect myself and those around me. I don't know of a vaccine I have not had over the years.
On 08-10-21 16:22, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Covid vaccinations a <=-
Have you had your Covid vaccine? Your Singles vaccine? Smallpox?
Collera? Yellow fever? Polio? Measles? Whooping cough? Diphtheria?
I have not had the shingles one because I was not old enough for it
yet, but I think I am now so I plan to ask about it next physical.
I was in one of the last groups of Americans to get the smallpox
vaccine. My younger siblings didn't get one.
I don't think they give out collera or yellow fever unless you are traveling to places where you need one (and I would get one if I was).
I have had the rest of them.
I can say this... the difference between those others and COVID is
that those others were fully FDA approved before I got them.
On 08-11-21 18:15, Jeff Squires <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Covid vaccinations a <=-
Just fine -- I have done that to protect myself and those around me. I don't know of a vaccine I have not had over the years.
Well good for you, I got the vaccine too. But several of the younger
guys (20 to 30 y.o. range) don't want to get the vaccine and I don't have a problem with that.
If they get covid it will most
like be a mild case
... and then they will have natural immunity.
Right no there is a lot of hysteria out there
about the "delta variant" when in reality while it is more
transmissible most people that are getting have symptoms no
worse than the flu.
Also the reports about hospitals
filling to capacity with patients with covid the reality is
they only have 6% or less of space in there hospital set
aside for covid patients.
Quoting Jeff Squires to Dale Shipp <=-
are just that, for each individual to make up there own mine. What
was it the lefties used to say... oh yeah "My body my choice".
I have not had the shingles one because I was not old enough for it
yet, but I think I am now so I plan to ask about it next physical.
I would encourage you to get it. I did not know that they had a minimum
age where they would give it. Assuming that you had chicken pox (who didn't?), the virus that causes shingles is dominant within you. I have
a very mild case of shingles decades ago, but even that was not nice.
Once they got a new vaccine that was 90% effective, I got the shot.
I was in one of the last groups of Americans to get the smallpox vaccine. My younger siblings didn't get one.
I was not aware that they stopped giving that vaccine. I guess they
consider smallpox eliminated all over the world.
I don't think they give out collera or yellow fever unless you are traveling to places where you need one (and I would get one if I was).
I believe that I got those when I entered active duty with the army.
They give shots on the basis of "we never know where you might be
going".
I can say this... the difference between those others and COVID is
that those others were fully FDA approved before I got them.
I have heard that the full FDA approval should come soon -- and that
there is very little difference between that and the current emergency approval.
You should have a problem with that.
For some it will be a mild case -- but for others it will be as serious as the alpha variant was for seniors. But for those who are lucky enough to only have a mild case, they will still transmit it to others who will get very sick -- including children too young to get a vaccine yet.
For 90 days -- and then they can do it all over again.
Nope your wrong there, in fact natural immunity is far superior to immunity vaccine immunity with covid 19.
There are politicians here who are against "mandatory vaccinations." They don't want us to be forced at knifepoint to inject the novel vaccine.
In other words, they would rather that you or your neighbors get
severely sick or even die.
Nope your wrong there, in fact natural immunity is far superior to
immunity vaccine immunity with covid 19.
Pray tell, where did you get your medical degree?
Nope your wrong there, in fact natural immunity is far superior to immunity vaccine immunity with covid 19.
Pray tell, where did you get your medical degree?
Don't have one but I do read a lot, natural immunity is always superior
to vaccine immunity. The reason we have vaccines is because in many
cases getting the disease could be fatal.
Nope your wrong there, in fact natural immunity is far superior to
immunity vaccine immunity with covid 19.
Pray tell, where did you get your medical degree?
Don't have one but I do read a lot, natural immunity is always superior to vaccine immunity.
The reason we have vaccines is because in many cases getting the disease could be fatal.
On 08-13-21 18:31, Jeff Squires <=-
spoke to Dan Cross about Re: Covid vaccinations a <=-
Don't have one but I do read a lot, natural immunity is
always superior to vaccine immunity.
The reason we have
vaccines is because in many cases getting the disease could
be fatal.
The novel coronavirus is a new coronavirus, meaning no person
on the face of this planet has any natural immunity to it.
One more time -
EVERYONE will be exposed/infected by the virus.
Those who have not been vaccinated have a much higher risk
of severe illness or death than those who have been vaccinated.
So why would anybody (other than total idiots) refuse to take
the jab?
Don't have one but I do read a lot, natural immunity is
always superior to vaccine immunity.
That is just not true, no matter what some pundits might claim. The natural immunity to Covid lasts for about 90 days.
Or seriously sick, with lasting effects. Too bad that many people do
not realize those side effects from not taking the vaccine.
Quoting Jeff Squires to Lee Lofaso <=-
Yes but we have had other coronaviruses hence why Pfizer had already
had a head start working on a vaccine.
Key word RISK, what is the risk for a healthy person for age 1 to 30
with no co-morbidity factors of dying or getting severe illness?
What is the risk of having a bad of fatal reaction to the vaccine?
Has the vaccine been approved for regular use by the FDA?
You should do some
reading on vaccines before you take your high and mighty stance of
telling EVERYONE they should "get the jab".
The novel coronavirus is a new coronavirus, meaning no person
on the face of this planet has any natural immunity to it.
Yes but we have had other coronaviruses
hence why Pfizer had already had a head start working on a vaccine.
One more time -
EVERYONE will be exposed/infected by the virus.
Those who have not been vaccinated have a much higher risk
of severe illness or death than those who have been vaccinated.
So why would anybody (other than total idiots) refuse to take
the jab?
Key word RISK,
what is the risk for a healthy person for age 1 to 30 with no co-morbidity factors of dying or getting severe illness?
What is the risk of having a bad of fatal reaction to the vaccine?
Has the vaccine been approved for regular use by the FDA?
You should do some reading on vaccines before you take your high and mighty
stance of telling EVERYONE they should "get the jab".
Don't have one but I do read a lot, natural immunity is
always superior to vaccine immunity.
That is just not true, no matter what some pundits might claim. The
natural immunity to Covid lasts for about 90 days.
Not pundits, Medical researchers with Degrees and everything. Stop listinging to CNN and MSDNC.
Or seriously sick, with lasting effects. Too bad that many people do
not realize those side effects from not taking the vaccine.
Many people do realize the side effects and after taking them into account with there RISK factor choose not to get the vaccine.
On 08-17-21 06:05, Jeff Squires <=-
spoke to Lee Lofaso about Re: Covid vaccinations a <=-
So why would anybody (other than total idiots) refuse to take
the jab?
Key word RISK, what is the risk for a healthy person for
age 1 to 30 with no co-morbidity factors of dying or
getting severe illness?
What is the risk of having a bad of
fatal reaction to the vaccine?
Has the vaccine been approved for regular use by the FDA?
You should do some
reading on vaccines before you take your high and mighty
stance of telling EVERYONE they should "get the jab".
On 08-17-21 06:10, Jeff Squires <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Covid vaccinations a <=-
Don't have one but I do read a lot, natural immunity is
always superior to vaccine immunity.
That is just not true, no matter what some pundits might claim. The natural immunity to Covid lasts for about 90 days.
Not pundits, Medical researchers with Degrees and
everything. Stop listinging to CNN and MSDNC.
Or seriously sick, with lasting effects. Too bad that many people do
not realize those side effects from not taking the vaccine.
Many people do realize the side effects and after taking
them into account with there RISK factor choose not to get
the vaccine.
On 08-17-21 08:32, Ron Lauzon <=-
spoke to Jeff Squires about Re: Covid vaccinations a <=-
Key word RISK, what is the risk for a healthy person for age 1 to 30
with no co-morbidity factors of dying or getting severe illness?
About the same as the regular flu. The only difference is that COVID
hits the old while the regular flu hits the young.
What is the risk of having a bad of fatal reaction to the vaccine?
So far, for the young, it's a pretty high risk. Far more than the
risk of COVID.
Dale Shipp wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-
Wrong. The current delta variant is making those young people
seriously ill, with too many dying. Even at age 1.
Where are you getting that data?
How many people have died because of the vaccine?
Compare that to the hundreds of thousands who have died
from covid -- and by no means only seniors.
Wrong. The current delta variant is making those young people
seriously ill, with too many dying. Even at age 1.
Gotta keep pushing the false Narrative I suppose. Especially against the parents who are pushing to get the mask restrictions out of schools. Lefties
can't have anything getting in the way of indoctrinating our kids.
Where are you getting that data?
From reliable source - not CNN where you get yours.
On 08-18-21 08:18, Ron Lauzon <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Covid vaccinations a <=-
Wrong. The current delta variant is making those young people
seriously ill, with too many dying. Even at age 1.
Gotta keep pushing the false Narrative I suppose. Especially against
the parents who are pushing to get the mask restrictions out of
schools. Lefties can't have anything getting in the way of
indoctrinating our kids.
Where are you getting that data?
From reliable source - not CNN where you get yours.
How many people have died because of the vaccine?
Look it up for yourself, or are you afraid that you might see some
data that contridicts your precious Narrative?
Compare that to the hundreds of thousands who have died
from covid -- and by no means only seniors.
Ah, yes, the fake numbers pushed by the Propaganda Ministry. Even the
CDC admits that only 6% actually died of COVID. The rest just happened
to have COVID, or in many cases, just had COVID symptoms (like the
regular flu) when they died of the heart attack.
But, like I said, you guys have to keep pushing your false Narrative. Otherwise you'll have to confront the fact that you aren't as smart
and Elite as you want to believe you are.
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