Allegedly, Biden has a 7-point coronavirus plan which includes a national mask mandate everywhere outside the home. Biden plans to have governors enforce it, and if they refuse, Biden will seek support from local municipalities.

Do you support it? I guess it don't matter if you do or don't, because we will do what our president says. I will say this about it: If this national mask mandate significantly cuts the cases down, or if this whole 7 point plan is actually a success, I will be happy about it.

I would also be happy to slam Biden on just about anything, but I'm starting to wonder if leadership in our country has taken advantage of all the
possible avenues that could have helped us during the pandemic?

Biden can kiss my butt, and I love Trump for all his policies, but I think Trump and my state governor, and all the other douchebags that come from further down the NY chain, could have done a hell of a lot more for us. They all sorta did what they thought was enough work for a day's pay, then they
got tired and took a nap.

So if we're lucky, Biden can make all this stuff happen, and put a bigger dent in the virus than these other guys. After that, he'll hand the keys to the White House over to Xi Jinping, and we can go back to hating that gaffster again.

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Allegedly, Biden has a 7-point coronavirus plan which includes a national mask >mandate everywhere outside the home. Biden plans to have governors enforce it, >and if they refuse, Biden will seek support from local municipalities.

Do you support it?

I support wearing one in public indoor places, and at public gatherings. I don't believe in wearing one if I am outdoors taking a walk by myself or am only with family that lives in the same house.

That is just dumb and it will make you ill. People need fresh air.

Biden can kiss my butt, and I love Trump for all his policies, but I think Trump and my state governor, and all the other douchebags that come from further down the NY chain, could have done a hell of a lot more for us. They all sorta did what they thought was enough work for a day's pay, then they got tired and took a nap.

Our state has had a mask mandate for months now. It is an indoor public
and public gatherings mandate. I follow it. Does not seem to help much,
we are still setting records for daily cases. We are better off than you are in NY for sure. Cuomo has blood on his hands.


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On 11-08-20 22:30, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to All about Wear Masks 24/7 <=-

I would also be happy to slam Biden on just about anything, but I'm starting to wonder if leadership in our country has taken advantage of all the possible avenues that could have helped us during the pandemic?

You know that Trump not only did *NOT* do things that would have helped,
but actively did things that made it worse. Just look at the spread of infections in the whitehouse in the past month. Had they worn masks and
keep social distance, that would not have happened that much.

Dale Shipp
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On 11-09-20 14:45, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Aaron Thomas about Wear Masks 24/7 <=-

I support wearing one in public indoor places, and at public
gatherings. I don't believe in wearing one if I am outdoors taking a
walk by myself or am only with family that lives in the same house.

That is just dumb and it will make you ill. People need fresh air.

Your statements are absolutely the correct version.

Our state has had a mask mandate for months now. It is an indoor
public and public gatherings mandate. I follow it. Does not seem to
help much, we are still setting records for daily cases. We are better off than you are in NY for sure. Cuomo has blood on his hands.

What state is that? NY is not bad off. They peaked in early April and
then declined to a much lower and nearly flat level until recently.
Since mid October, they have been rising again, but not as steeply as
many other states.

Dale Shipp
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Our state has had a mask mandate for months now. It is an indoor public and public gatherings mandate. I follow it. Does not seem to help much,

But Biden needs to sound like he has nuts in the sac, which he kinda does for being as big of a false hope as he is to so many people. He will act tough, and fool idiots into thinking that he invented the vaccine, and they will
try to re-elect him for it. Trump told us all we need to know about this guy, and Trump's had a clean record with us all along.

we are still setting records for daily cases. We are better off than you in NY for sure. Cuomo has blood on his hands.

He's about to spill some more too. He said we can't have the Trump vaccine; needs to be a Biden vaccine. And Biden calls this guy his "friend."

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You know that Trump not only did *NOT* do things that would have helped, but actively did things that made it worse. Just look at the spread of infections in the whitehouse in the past month. Had they worn masks and keep social distance, that would not have happened that much.

Yea but who cares about the White House staff? Aren't they a bunch of racists anyway?

Trump could have been more vocal about prevention. But governors like Cuomo are the ones who went out of their way to make the virus worse. That maniac is sitting in Albany right now looking for ways to kill more NYers, with his latest plan to not allow NYers access to an FDA approved vaccine. But guess what my brainwashed neighbors will do in 2023? Re-elect that guy who's popular with the celbrity folk.

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Dale Shipp wrote to Aaron Thomas <=-

You know that Trump not only did *NOT* do things that would have
helped, but actively did things that made it worse. Just look at the spread of infections in the whitehouse in the past month. Had they
worn masks and keep social distance, that would not have happened that much.

Yet, when Lefties hold "protests" without social distancing or masks, no one complains - and there's no spike in COVID hospitalizations or deaths (cases
are not relevant).


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On 11-10-20 11:41, Ron Lauzon <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Wear Masks 24/7 <=-

You know that Trump not only did *NOT* do things that would have
helped, but actively did things that made it worse. Just look at the spread of infections in the whitehouse in the past month. Had they
worn masks and keep social distance, that would not have happened that much.

Yet, when Lefties hold "protests" without social distancing or masks,
no one complains - and there's no spike in COVID hospitalizations or deaths (cases are not relevant).

The protests and rallies that I have seen had most people wearing masks.
It is true that there were too many of them to have decent social
distancing. OTOH, at all of the Trump rallies hardly any people wore a
mask. And there were spikes as a result.

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I'm sure that one thing we all have in common is that we all sorta slam each other with our politics in this echo, not because it's our intent to do that, but it's because we feel comfortable chatting with one another about political issues here on Fidonet. Right?

The thing is you have to have thick skin and I think all the regulars here do in fact have this thick skin. No matter what awful thing we say about each other's candidates, nobody is getting their feelings hurt (We're all adults.)

But while we're not busy slamming anybody, let's try to find some common ground on issues so we can find real solutions to our problems with one another's policies. That way, we can write letters to our reps with simple specific goals that we, as a BBS community, came up with as a bilateral team.

Does this sound good to anybody? The hard part is the compromise that we need to ask for. Here's a real example, and this can happen to anybody in any
state with Democrat firepower:

Bail Reform - a.k.a - The Revolving Door at County Lockup
I reached out to my state rep(D) about it, and she said "It was unfair that wealthy people could post bail while poor people could not, so we gave free bail to all inmates in all county & metro jails throughout the state to make it fair."

Then I reached out to my state senator(R) about it, and he said "Luckily the judges are able to over-ride the defendant's right to bail if they are deemed a threat."

Here's the problem with all this: The judges aren't keeping anyone in jail. I don't know if it's because they are Democrats too, or if they simply don't want to get any flack for revoking someone's bail, or they simply don't give a crap.

My proposed solution? Ammend the law so judges are *required* to revoke bail if the defendant did anything that involved any type of physical violence or threat of physical violence. Is that too much to ask for?

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I support wearing one in public indoor places, and at public
gatherings. I don't believe in wearing one if I am outdoors taking a walk by myself or am only with family that lives in the same house.

That is just dumb and it will make you ill. People need fresh air.

Your statements are absolutely the correct version.

Good to know! :) I had to wear one for a long period yesterday. I had forgotten how sleepy it makes me after a while.

What state is that? NY is not bad off. They peaked in early April and
then declined to a much lower and nearly flat level until recently.
Since mid October, they have been rising again, but not as steeply as
many other states.

Kentucky


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He's about to spill some more too. He said we can't have the Trump vaccine; needs to be a Biden vaccine. And Biden calls this guy his "friend."

When, and how, did he say that exactly?


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The protests and rallies that I have seen had most people wearing masks.
It is true that there were too many of them to have decent social
distancing. OTOH, at all of the Trump rallies hardly any people wore a
mask. And there were spikes as a result.

Around here, the protesters were wearing masks of the "chin diaper"
variety, or of the type to conceal their identity, or none at all. There
were some big protests then, two weeks later, a spike. The Governor blamed that on "family gatherings" and did not mention the spike in protest
activity two weeks beforehand at all.

I don't have doubt they were able to trace some cases back to a family
event but, considering the biggest spike was in the county where the
protests had been, and not all over the state, I don't buy that was the
only reason.


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He's about to spill some more too. He said we can't have the Trump vaccine; needs to be a Biden vaccine. And Biden calls this guy his "friend."

When, and how, did he say that exactly?

About 2 months ago:

"The first question is, is the vaccine safe? Frankly, I'm not going to trust the federal government's opinion," Cuomo said, adding, "New York state will have its own review when the federal government has finished with their review and says its safe."

So however long it took the FDA to review and approve the vaccine, NYers can expect to wait about that much additional time before our guardian angel Andrew Cuomo lets us have access to it.

Nice guy, isn't he?

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/09/24/916565352/cuo mo-says-n-y-health-officials-will-review-any-u-s-approved-covid-19-vaccine

Ok, I misled you and I apologize; He didn't say "It's got to be a Biden vaccine," but he clearly said he won't let us have a vaccine "just becuase the federal government says it's safe."

What kind of governor will risk several months of more preventable deaths just to spite the federal government? And since when is the president the person who makes decisions on FDA research?

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Dale Shipp wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

The protests and rallies that I have seen had most people wearing
masks. It is true that there were too many of them to have decent
social distancing. OTOH, at all of the Trump rallies hardly any people wore a mask. And there were spikes as a result.

Spikes in what? Cases? Cases are irrelevant since 98% of the people who
get COVID don't even show symptoms.

Show me spikes in hospitalizations due to COVID (not **with** COVID) and you will have a point.

This is the normal leftie play: Take a fact (i.e. COVID) and wrap a false narrative around it (i.e. it's the Zombie Apocalypse). Then criticize people for not falling for the false narrative by pointing to the one fact.


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Mike Powell wrote to DALE SHIPP <=-

Good to know! :) I had to wear one for a long period yesterday. I
had forgotten how sleepy it makes me after a while.

The "sleepy feeling" is CO2 poisoning.


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"The first question is, is the vaccine safe? Frankly, I'm not going to trust >the federal government's opinion," Cuomo said, adding, "New York state will >have its own review when the federal government has finished with their review >and says its safe."

So however long it took the FDA to review and approve the vaccine, NYers can >expect to wait about that much additional time before our guardian angel >Andrew Cuomo lets us have access to it.

Since he said that a couple of months back, he may have changed his mind.
I was apprehensive about a rushed vaccine but am less so as time passes
because that also means it is less rushed than I feared. If they had
come out in Aug or Sept and said "here it is and it is safe," I would have
been as skeptical as Cuomo.

Ok, I misled you and I apologize; He didn't say "It's got to be a Biden >vaccine," but he clearly said he won't let us have a vaccine "just becuase the >federal government says it's safe."

We will see how he feels once it comes out.

What kind of governor will risk several months of more preventable deaths just >to spite the federal government? And since when is the president the person >who makes decisions on FDA research?

I would be curious about the side-effects and percentage of people who can expect them. If it is a "the cure is worse than the illness" type deal, I
sure won't want to be forced to take it. OTOH, if it is as risky as the
annual flu shot, I won't be worried.


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On 11-11-20 10:28, Mike Powell <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Wear Masks 24/7 <=-

Good to know! :) I had to wear one for a long period yesterday. I
had forgotten how sleepy it makes me after a while.

What state is that?

Kentucky

Kentucky was doing great until July. It then started a moderate climb
lasting until October when the infection rate took off into a very steep
climb. Yesterday 2,140 cases, 19 deaths and 1,189 hospitalized. Source
is
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/kentucky-coronavirus-cases.html

Kentucky ranks 23rd of 50 states in cases per 100,000 at 44.8

Compare that to US numbers yesterday of
139,855 cases, 1,448 deaths, and 61,964 hospitalizations.

Dale Shipp
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Since he said that a couple of months back, he may have changed his mind.

Yes, it is beneficial to think positively about others, sometimes even if they've wronged you before.

I would be curious about the side-effects and percentage of people who can expect them. If it is a "the cure is worse than the illness" type deal, I

I've tried cocaine and LSD, and they had some side effects, but they can be considered gateway drugs for me, because I'm ready to try that coronavirus vaccine. I ain't scared. I'd rather screw up my health and be less of a spreader than be scared and spread more than Kamala has for Joe. (What's
known as a super-spreader.)

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On 11-12-20 01:37, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Mike Powell about Re: Wear Masks 24/7 <=-

Ok, I misled you and I apologize; He didn't say "It's got to be a
Biden vaccine," but he clearly said he won't let us have a vaccine
"just becuase the federal government says it's safe."

What kind of governor will risk several months of more preventable
deaths just to spite the federal government? And since when is the president the person who makes decisions on FDA research?

Perhaps he said that when it was apparent that Trump would attempt to
make the FDA to say whatever Trump wanted it to say. I don't think that
he was saying it to spite the federal government as much as expressing a
lack of trust for anything that Trump would say or have said in his
behalf.

Trump has been like the old joke about lawyers. How can you tell when
he is telling a lie -- when he opens his mouth. How can you tell if he
is telling the truth? When he is keeping silent -- as he is now doing
about Biden's election win.

Dale Shipp
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On 11-12-20 10:20, Ron Lauzon <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Wear Masks 24/7 <=-

social distancing. OTOH, at all of the Trump rallies hardly any people wore a mask. And there were spikes as a result.

Spikes in what? Cases? Cases are irrelevant since 98% of the people
who get COVID don't even show symptoms.

Wrong on your math. More than 3.5% of the people who get Covid die.
That is certainly a symptom.

Show me spikes in hospitalizations due to COVID (not **with** COVID)
and you will have a point.

Only recently have I been seeing news media showing such graphs --
perhaps that data is harder to come by. I agree that hospitalizations
due to Covid is a more relevant statistic than the number of infections.

This is the normal leftie play: Take a fact (i.e. COVID) and wrap a
false narrative around it (i.e. it's the Zombie Apocalypse). Then criticize people for not falling for the false narrative by pointing to the one fact.

Can you handle the truth? The number of deaths from COVID has averaged
more than 1,000 per day this week.

That is a fact that can hardly be denied by any sensible person.

Dale Shipp
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Perhaps he said that when it was apparent that Trump would attempt to
make the FDA to say whatever Trump wanted it to say. I don't think that

Is that how stuff works though? During a Trump presidency, the FDA can't be trusted by liberals? Cuomo didn't even mention Trump by name; he said "We can't trust the federal government," which makes no sense at all.

Why did Cuomo request a hospital ship in NYC? Because he don't trust the federal government? Oh that was then, and this is now; so we trust the Federal when we need money from them, but then we throw them in front of the bus in preparation for election day.

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Ron Lauzon wrote to Mike Powell <=-

The "sleepy feeling" is CO2 poisoning.

Look, either masks are a waste of time and completely porous to
Covid-19 in aerosol form (and an Illuminati/Globalist plot to
dehumanize and distance us) or they're completely airtight and
increasing CO2 intake.

They can't be both.



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Look, either masks are a waste of time and completely porous to
Covid-19 in aerosol form (and an Illuminati/Globalist plot to
dehumanize and distance us) or they're completely airtight and
increasing CO2 intake.

I do not believe the constant mask wearing is not good for anyone.

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Kentucky was doing great until July. It then started a moderate climb lasting until October when the infection rate took off into a very steep climb. Yesterday 2,140 cases, 19 deaths and 1,189 hospitalized. Source
is https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/kentucky-coronavirus-cases.html

That would coincide with an increase in unmasked protesting, and some school systems returning to in-class learning, respectively.


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Trump has been like the old joke about lawyers. How can you tell when
he is telling a lie -- when he opens his mouth. How can you tell if he
is telling the truth? When he is keeping silent -- as he is now doing
about Biden's election win.

That joke pretty much describes any "successful" politician.


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Why did Cuomo request a hospital ship in NYC? Because he don't trust the federal government? Oh that was then, and this is now; so we trust the Federal
when we need money from them, but then we throw them in front of the bus in preparation for election day.

Did he request the ship, or was it sent there but not ever used?


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Look, either masks are a waste of time and completely porous to
Covid-19 in aerosol form (and an Illuminati/Globalist plot to
dehumanize and distance us) or they're completely airtight and
increasing CO2 intake.

They can't be both.

Actually they can, depending on what type of masks you are wearing. The
ones that don't work at all do the former, the ones that work against COVID
do the latter.


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Did he request the ship, or was it sent there but not ever used?

He requested it.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/live-blog/2020-04-06-coronavirus-ne ws-n1177341/ncrd1177661

Trump delivered it. But now NYers aren't allowed to "trust the FDA under Trump's administration." But we will "gladly accept a coronavirus vaccine under a Joe Biden administration." <- Seriously, it's almost word-for-word:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-calls-out-cuomo-on-stunting-vaccine-dis tribution-during-rose-garden-speech

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Trump delivered it. But now NYers aren't allowed to "trust the FDA under Trump's administration." But we will "gladly accept a coronavirus vaccine under a Joe Biden administration." <- Seriously, it's almost word-for-word:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-calls-out-cuomo-on-stunting-vaccine-dis >tribution-during-rose-garden-speech

There is a conspiracy theory involving Bill Gates and a "Gates vaccine"
that involves a big government plan for a global government, making
everyone dependent on said government, and possibly nanobots.

Maybe that is the vaccine Cuomo wants New Yorkers to take?

The only reason I would find this conspiracy credible at all is that it involves Bill Gates and I do not trust him. Otherwise, it sounds like a
plot from a sci-fi movie but, there again, so does most of what has
happened so far in 2020.


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Dale Shipp wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

Wrong on your math. More than 3.5% of the people who get Covid die.
That is certainly a symptom.

Nope. Right on math. You need to filter out the people who did not die **with** COVID.
Someone in a car accident, who dies from their injuries, but happenes to have COVID is **not** a COVID death.

Only recently have I been seeing news media showing such graphs --

Then they are false. The "news" media is nothing more than the propaganda arm of the lefties.

Can you handle the truth? The number of deaths from COVID has averaged more than 1,000 per day this week.

No. The number of deaths **with** COVID (not **from** COVID) is that high.

But your false Leftie Narrative won't allow you to understand that difference.



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On 11-13-20, MIKE POWELL said to DALE SHIPP:

Kentucky was doing great until July. It then started a moderate climb lasting until October when the infection rate took off into a very steep climb. Yesterday 2,140 cases, 19 deaths and 1,189 hospitalized. Source
is

I became skeptical when I saw Shipp's name in the `from' box.


What really did it in was;

https://www.nytimes.com

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That would coincide with an increase in unmasked protesting, and some MP>school systems returning to in-class learning, respectively.

The NY Times isn't exactly a solid source of info.


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On 11-14-20 13:04, Ron Lauzon <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Wear Masks 24/7 <=-

But your false Leftie Narrative won't allow you to understand that difference.

I will believe the consistent facts published by multiple credible organizations. You can keep holding on to your version of alternate
facts all you want, but that will not change what the facts are.

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Hello Mike,

Look, either masks are a waste of time and completely porous to
Covid-19 in aerosol form (and an Illuminati/Globalist plot to
dehumanize and distance us) or they're completely airtight and
increasing CO2 intake.

They can't be both.

Actually they can, depending on what type of masks you are wearing. The ones that don't work at all do the former, the ones that work against COVID
do the latter.

If a face covering is made of a material that is insufficient to
filter coronavirus, such as fabric used in t-shirts, etc., then it
is basically no protection at all.

If a face covering is made of material that one cannot breathe
through, then one would have to breathe air from the sides of the
face covering, thus defeating the purpose of the face covering.

If no face covering is worn, then one has no protection at all,
leaving oneself completely at the mercy of the coronavirus.

--Lee

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There is a conspiracy theory involving Bill Gates and a "Gates vaccine" that involves a big government plan for a global government, making everyone dependent on said government, and possibly nanobots.

Maybe that is the vaccine Cuomo wants New Yorkers to take?

I'm confident that Cuomo's reluctance to give NYers the Pfizer vaccine is based on his own personal financial gain. Democrats love the coronavirus industry, and they're not ready to let it dissolve just yet.

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Dale Shipp wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

I will believe the consistent facts published by multiple credible organizations.

Yet you keep quoting narrative by multiple oraganizations that have been
proven to be not credible.

But like most Lefties, "credible" means "goes with the Narrative".


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Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-

I'm confident that Cuomo's reluctance to give NYers the Pfizer vaccine
is based on his own personal financial gain. Democrats love the coronavirus industry, and they're not ready to let it dissolve just
yet.

Projection.



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If a face covering is made of a material that is insufficient to
filter coronavirus, such as fabric used in t-shirts, etc., then it
is basically no protection at all.

If a face covering is made of material that one cannot breathe
through, then one would have to breathe air from the sides of the
face covering, thus defeating the purpose of the face covering.

If no face covering is worn, then one has no protection at all,
leaving oneself completely at the mercy of the coronavirus.

So you are saying not to wear a mask at all? :)


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I'm confident that Cuomo's reluctance to give NYers the Pfizer vaccine is based on his own personal financial gain. Democrats love the coronavirus industry, and they're not ready to let it dissolve just yet.

Some of Ralph Nader's "safety insistances," while mostly safer for the
public, were also in favor of his own financial gain. I suspect that some
of the push towards green energy is the same way.


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I'm confident that Cuomo's reluctance to give NYers the Pfizer vaccine is based on his own personal financial gain. Democrats love the coronavirus industry, and they're not ready to let it dissolve just
yet.

Projection.

Not really. Politicians and lobbiests have done plenty for their own
personal gain before. Cuomo may not be, but it is not far-fetched to
wonder about it.


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Some of Ralph Nader's "safety insistances," while mostly safer for the public, were also in favor of his own financial gain. I suspect that some of the push towards green energy is the same way.

You've made a good point. Let's see what the green new deal does for Democrats. They're gonna have some explaining to do other than pretending to care about "future generations."

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On 11-16-20 10:16, Ron Lauzon <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Facts <=-

I will believe the consistent facts published by multiple credible organizations.

Yet you keep quoting narrative by multiple oraganizations that have
been proven to be not credible.

I believe Washington Post, NY Times, CNN, to be credible. I believe
FoxNews, NY Post, the Enquiror to lack credibility. If you have
problems with that, sorry.

Dale Shipp
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Hello Mike,

If a face covering is made of a material that is insufficient to
filter coronavirus, such as fabric used in t-shirts, etc., then it
is basically no protection at all.

If a face covering is made of material that one cannot breathe
through, then one would have to breathe air from the sides of the
face covering, thus defeating the purpose of the face covering.

If no face covering is worn, then one has no protection at all,
leaving oneself completely at the mercy of the coronavirus.

So you are saying not to wear a mask at all? :)

The Lone Ranger wore one.
So did Zorro.
But they both knew how to wear one.
And knew exactly where to poke the holes.

--Lee

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On 11-16-20, MIKE POWELL said to LEE LOFASO:

So you are saying not to wear a mask at all? :)

I only actually wear a mask when I go into a public building like a store. Thats only because most places have signs requiring them to enter and shop.


I comply because that is `their' space and they have a right to set the rules.


But if I'm out walking outside in public or driving my car, I do not wear a face covering of any kind.


Truth is in the `free' world, no government entity has the right to demand you do so. That they `will' demand such is a given. `Government'; especially
leftie run government) will `demand' a lot from citizens. And the more who comply with such unlawful restrictions, the more re-inforced they will become to lay pretty much anything they wish on the citizenry, and both demand and enforce compliance.Today its `masks'; Tomorrow......???


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But if I'm out walking outside in public or driving my car, I do not wear a face covering of any kind.

The mask-nazis are only acting like that because they think it's the anti-Trump thing to do.

Each time they scream at a 90 year old man for not wearing a mask, it releases endorphins.

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