So we've got a domestic terrorist parked near the Library of Congress in a truck which he claims contains explosives. He says he's there because his health insurance sucks and he's blaming Biden for all of his problems.

Will one of you conservatives please tell him that all he has to do to get treatments for his knees and his wife's skin cancer is to go to the nearest
ER?

Jeff.

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So we've got a domestic terrorist parked near the Library of Congress in
a truck which he claims contains explosives. He says he's there because his health insurance sucks and he's blaming Biden for all of his
problems.

Hmm, statistics show that he's 99% likely to be a Trump supporter, and 100% likely to be a Republican voter ;)

Will one of you conservatives please tell him that all he has to do to
get treatments for his knees and his wife's skin cancer is to go to the nearest ER?

In some states it might be that easy, but not in others. Plus this guy
probably doesn't know or care that some hospitals are more forgiving than others. One hospital will require a down payment before doing lifesaving surgery (Presbyterian in ABQ) while another will just do the surgery and talk about money later (UNM in ABQ.)

And this guy is from DC? Maybe the hospitals are all douchy like that in DC.

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On 19 Aug 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

So we've got a domestic terrorist parked near the Library of Congress a truck which he claims contains explosives. He says he's there becau his health insurance sucks and he's blaming Biden for all of his problems.

Hmm, statistics show that he's 99% likely to be a Trump supporter, and 100% likely to be a Republican voter ;)

As would the contents of his 4-hour live-streamed screed, and the fact that
he favorably shared a Trump, Jr. video yesterday.

Will one of you conservatives please tell him that all he has to do t get treatments for his knees and his wife's skin cancer is to go to t nearest ER?

In some states it might be that easy, but not in others. Plus this guy probably doesn't know or care that some hospitals are more forgiving than others. One hospital will require a down payment before doing lifesaving surgery (Presbyterian in ABQ) while another will just do the surgery and talk about money later (UNM in ABQ.)

His knee problems do not appear to be life-threatening (he indicated he needs some kind of injection to reduce swelling/pain/immobility), and his wife's
skin cancer, if imminently life-threatening, is unlikely to be resolved by ER surgery. Neither would merit ER treatment.

I know this first-hand.

When we discovered that my wife had cancer, we were in Florida. She had been having back pain for some time, but while in Florida became unable to walk.
We went to the ER to find out what was wrong, and they found tumors eating through her spine and putting pressure on her spinal cord. She was not in imminent danger of death, but needed specialized surgery. Despite the fact
that we were well-insured and cost was not an issue, the ER doctor would not perform surgery on her spine. We had to fly home and go to a specialist for that.

Our insurance did help pay for that surgery and all subsequent treatments
until her death 9 months later. (As you might imagine, we hit our
out-of-pocket maximum fairly quickly.)

But the point is, those aren't the sorts of things that ERs do, whether you
can afford it or not.

And this guy is from DC? Maybe the hospitals are all douchy like that in DC.

He was from NC and drove to DC. The area around the Library of Congress was evacuated for hours while Capitol police talked him down. Did your news
sources not inform you of this?

Jeff.

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Hmm, statistics show that he's 99% likely to be a Trump supporter, an 100% likely to be a Republican voter ;)

As would the contents of his 4-hour live-streamed screed, and the fact that he favorably shared a Trump, Jr. video yesterday.

Did the media remember to put a Trump t-shirt on him? The t-shirt is what really sells it!

But the point is, those aren't the sorts of things that ERs do, whether you can afford it or not.

I get it that cancer treatment isn't an ER issue, but the lunatic in DC might have a point about being unable to find treatment. My wife had an infected galbladder and Presbyterian dicked us around, making us get an appointment with a 'financial counselor" who advised us to put a 30% down payment on the surgery. We went to the university hospital down the street and they put her in surgery the same day without asking for any money.

Who knows what kind of lame deal some lousy hospital offered this guy. Do
they have Presbyterian in DC? Hospitals aren't all the same. I'll always take my loved ones to university hospitals from now on. They are focused on saving lives while private hospitals are focused on accounting.

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On 20 Aug 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Hmm, statistics show that he's 99% likely to be a Trump supporte 100% likely to be a Republican voter ;)

As would the contents of his 4-hour live-streamed screed, and the fac that he favorably shared a Trump, Jr. video yesterday.

Did the media remember to put a Trump t-shirt on him? The t-shirt is what really sells it!

Deny all you want, this was your guy. "Joe Biden, the revolution starts
today!" he said. He was daring Biden to order him shot through his vehicle windows so that it would start a civil war.

But the point is, those aren't the sorts of things that ERs do, wheth you can afford it or not.

I get it that cancer treatment isn't an ER issue, but the lunatic in DC might have a point about being unable to find treatment. My wife had an infected galbladder and Presbyterian dicked us around, making us get an appointment with a 'financial counselor" who advised us to put a 30%
down payment on the surgery. We went to the university hospital down the street and they put her in surgery the same day without asking for any money.

They're a business. They have bills and salaries to pay. Certainly you understand that people can't go into a business and demand things for free.

Who knows what kind of lame deal some lousy hospital offered this guy. Do they have Presbyterian in DC? Hospitals aren't all the same. I'll always take my loved ones to university hospitals from now on. They are focused on saving lives while private hospitals are focused on accounting.

Again, they're a business. Did you stiff the hospital on the bill? If so, who do you think paid that bill? How do you think universities are funded? You're
a "socialist" at heart, aren't you?

Jeff.

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And this guy is from DC? Maybe the hospitals are all douchy like that in DC.

Have you noticed that when it is one guy in a truck that is probably not a leftist, it is "terrorism" but, when it is a bunch of people tearing stuff
up, burning stuff down, physically attacking others, etc., it is a "mostly peaceful protest"? Well, unless they are also probably not leftist, then
it is "terrorism" again.


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Deny all you want, this was your guy. "Joe Biden, the revolution starts today!" he said. He was daring Biden to order him shot through his vehicle windows so that it would start a civil war.

There were a lot of left-leaning political pundits who made similar
statements when Trump was elected. Were they daring people to shoot Trump?

I mean if a pillow saleman can get on YouTube and say things that make him
a threat, I don't doubt these pundits on news shows, with much larger audiences, could stir up action among those with similar lines of thinking.


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On 20 Aug 2021, Mike Powell said the following...

Deny all you want, this was your guy. "Joe Biden, the revolution starts today!" he said. He was daring Biden to order him shot through his vehic windows so that it would start a civil war.

There were a lot of left-leaning political pundits who made similar statements when Trump was elected. Were they daring people to shoot Trump?

What? The guy was daring the president to have him shot, not the other way around. And he was doing it with a supposed bomb detonator in his hand. I
don't remember anything like that happening when Trump was elected. Do you
have any sources for this claim?

I mean if a pillow saleman can get on YouTube and say things that make
him a threat, I don't doubt these pundits on news shows, with much larger audiences, could stir up action among those with similar lines of thinking.

The left-leaning pundits on news shows weren't spreading misinformation.

Jeff.

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Deny all you want, this was your guy. "Joe Biden, the revolution starts today!" he said. He was daring Biden to order him shot through his
vehicle windows so that it would start a civil war.

He's got a right to be angry, but that sounds like Obama's fault, not Joe's.

They're a business. They have bills and salaries to pay. Certainly you understand that people can't go into a business and demand things for free.

haha, sounds funny coming from the liberal guy ;)

Again, they're a business. Did you stiff the hospital on the bill? If
so, who do you think paid that bill? How do you think universities are funded? You're a "socialist" at heart, aren't you?

The university hospital doesn't hassle ER patients about insurance before rendering treatment. They gave us a huge discount for being cash customers without insurance. We paid like $2,400 for a $10,000 surgery, but we didn't
get a bill until several weeks after the surgery. UNM is a hero.

It's funny how you already have follow up questions for me in case I admit to being a freeloader. I'm not one! I have good credit! I don't rip people
off, and I'm honest with people. What happened? Was there a statistic posted on Kaiser's website saying that conservative moochers outweigh liberal ones?

I'll admit to this: I take what I'm entitled to. I get energy assistance and
an another NYS freebie called the "Star Credit." If the county (or whoever) took those freebies away, I wouldn't cry about it. If they raise property taxes excessively I'll be annoyed.

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On 20 Aug 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Deny all you want, this was your guy. "Joe Biden, the revolution star today!" he said. He was daring Biden to order him shot through his vehicle windows so that it would start a civil war.

He's got a right to be angry, but that sounds like Obama's fault, not Joe's.

His healthcare woes, specifically, I would blame on conservatives unable to guarantee healthcare to all of our nation's citizens.

They're a business. They have bills and salaries to pay. Certainly yo understand that people can't go into a business and demand things for free.

haha, sounds funny coming from the liberal guy ;)

Not as funny as the opposite sounds coming from the conservative guy.

Again, they're a business. Did you stiff the hospital on the bill? If so, who do you think paid that bill? How do you think universities ar funded? You're a "socialist" at heart, aren't you?

The university hospital doesn't hassle ER patients about insurance before rendering treatment. They gave us a huge discount for being cash
customers without insurance. We paid like $2,400 for a $10,000 surgery, but we didn't get a bill until several weeks after the surgery. UNM is a hero.

Which means that they're either overcharging insurance companies (who then increase their customers' premiums) or depending on taxpayer funds to cover
the difference. So yeah, you're a socialist.

It's funny how you already have follow up questions for me in case I
admit to being a freeloader. I'm not one! I have good credit! I don't
rip people off, and I'm honest with people. What happened? Was there a statistic posted on Kaiser's website saying that conservative moochers outweigh liberal ones?

That's just a well-known fact. Most welfare recipients are white people, and red states are generally poorer than blue ones.

I'll admit to this: I take what I'm entitled to. I get energy assistance and an another NYS freebie called the "Star Credit." If the county (or whoever) took those freebies away, I wouldn't cry about it. If they
raise property taxes excessively I'll be annoyed.

So these are entitlements, but income assistance is not?

Jeff.

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Have you noticed that when it is one guy in a truck that is probably not
a leftist, it is "terrorism" but, when it is a bunch of people tearing stuff up, burning stuff down, physically attacking others, etc., it is a "mostly peaceful protest"? Well, unless they are also probably not leftist, then it is "terrorism" again.

It's concerning that the security is so bad at places like the capitol building. I've seen tighter security at Walmart. It's probably got something
to do with all that 'defund the police' nonsense.

We just showed the world that 20 hillbillies in pickup trucks could almost overthrow congress. If they can do all that damage, how much damage can China or Russia do?

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Which means that they're either overcharging insurance companies (who
then increase their customers' premiums) or depending on taxpayer funds
to cover the difference. So yeah, you're a socialist.

Try telling your people (liberals) that if they accept a discount for life-saving emergency surgery, then they are socialists. Will they take it as a compliment because you guys endorse the Castros?

That's just a well-known fact. Most welfare recipients are white people, and red states are generally poorer than blue ones.

There's no such thing as a well-known fact. We both watch the news but
we get different recollections of events; so that diminishes any chance of you and me sharing "well-known facts." Your white people comments are racist.

If you could stop thinking about skin color, it will make you a better person.

So these are entitlements, but income assistance is not?

Yea I'm not entitled to income assistance. If I were entitled to it then I'd ask for it.

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On 21 Aug 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Which means that they're either overcharging insurance companies (who then increase their customers' premiums) or depending on taxpayer fun to cover the difference. So yeah, you're a socialist.

Try telling your people (liberals) that if they accept a discount for life-saving emergency surgery, then they are socialists. Will they take
it as a compliment because you guys endorse the Castros?

They would probably question why anyone should have to pay anything for life-saving surgery. We're capable of being so much better than that.

That's just a well-known fact. Most welfare recipients are white peop and red states are generally poorer than blue ones.

There's no such thing as a well-known fact. We both watch the news but
we get different recollections of events; so that diminishes any chance
of you and me sharing "well-known facts." Your white people comments are racist.

They're not racist; they're documented. That your news sources blatantly lie
to you, or that you add words willy-nilly into other people's quotes to
change the meaning to suit your paranoia is not my fault.

If you could stop thinking about skin color, it will make you a better person.

I'd rather not think about it at all. But it keeps being brought up.

So these are entitlements, but income assistance is not?

Yea I'm not entitled to income assistance. If I were entitled to it then I'd ask for it.

But since you're not, no one else is, either, right?

Jeff.

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They would probably question why anyone should have to pay anything for life-saving surgery. We're capable of being so much better than that.

Enslaving medical professionals sounds like a bad idea.

They're not racist; they're documented. That your news sources blatantly lie to you, or that you add words willy-nilly into other people's quotes to change the meaning to suit your paranoia is not my fault.

All news channels lie. You shouldn't just believe in yours all the time
because they tell you what you want to hear & omit what you don't want to hear.

If you could stop thinking about skin color, it will make you a bette person.

I'd rather not think about it at all. But it keeps being brought up.

You keep bringing it up by saying stuff like "White people are statistically taking more food stamps than latinos." Nobody really gives a crap about color, but every liberal story revolves around a palette of colors.

Yea I'm not entitled to income assistance. If I were entitled to it t I'd ask for it.

But since you're not, no one else is, either, right?

I've never heard of it. Are you talking about TANF? There are people who are entitled to TANF.

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On 22 Aug 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

They would probably question why anyone should have to pay anything f life-saving surgery. We're capable of being so much better than that.

Enslaving medical professionals sounds like a bad idea.

I didn't say they wouldn't get paid... only that a person would not have to incur any additional cost to themselves for life-saving surgery.

They're not racist; they're documented. That your news sources blatan lie to you, or that you add words willy-nilly into other people's quo to change the meaning to suit your paranoia is not my fault.

All news channels lie. You shouldn't just believe in yours all the time because they tell you what you want to hear & omit what you don't want
to hear.

Some lie more than others. A *lot* more. <cough>FOX</cough>

If you could stop thinking about skin color, it will make you a person.

I'd rather not think about it at all. But it keeps being brought up.

You keep bringing it up by saying stuff like "White people are statistically taking more food stamps than latinos." Nobody really gives
a crap about color, but every liberal story revolves around a palette of colors.

That I don't use dog whistles because I'm not a racist doesn't mean that both dog whistles and racists don't exist.

Yea I'm not entitled to income assistance. If I were entitled to I'd ask for it.

But since you're not, no one else is, either, right?

I've never heard of it. Are you talking about TANF? There are people who are entitled to TANF.

Are they, though? Or should it be taken away so that they have to get a job?

Jeff.

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I've never heard of it. Are you talking about TANF? There are people are entitled to TANF.

Are they, though? Or should it be taken away so that they have to get a job?

That sounds reasonable to me. It doesn't help people that much anyway, it's just a pile of completely squanderable cash. It's not enough to live on, it's temporary, and it teaches people that the more desperate they get, the more cash they get.

TANF should be replaced with employment recruiting, although that would weaken the Democrats' agenda to exploit the weak.

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On 23 Aug 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

I've never heard of it. Are you talking about TANF? There are pe are entitled to TANF.

Are they, though? Or should it be taken away so that they have to get job?

That sounds reasonable to me. It doesn't help people that much anyway, it's just a pile of completely squanderable cash. It's not enough to
live on, it's temporary, and it teaches people that the more desperate they get, the more cash they get.

So it's not an entitlement, but a handout. But the things you take advantage
of are entitlements.

TANF should be replaced with employment recruiting, although that would weaken the Democrats' agenda to exploit the weak.

I see. You've made some false assumptions to reach that conclusion.

Jeff.

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I've never heard of it. Are you talking about TANF? There a are entitled to TANF.

Are they, though? Or should it be taken away so that they have t job?

That sounds reasonable to me. It doesn't help people that much anyway it's just a pile of completely squanderable cash. It's not enough to live on, it's temporary, and it teaches people that the more desperat they get, the more cash they get.

So it's not an entitlement, but a handout. But the things you take advantage of are entitlements.

I already said that they're entitled to it. It's income-based, so there are people who are "entitled" to it based on the rules of the program. I take handouts when they appeal to me. I'm not the guy who complains about people taking handouts, I'm the guy who complains about politicians who give ridiculous handouts. I think Joe Biden broke the law when he gave debt forgiveness to farmers based on their skin color; he should be impeached for that among many other things. Only a Democrat would do something so skin-related.

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