• Libs: Your turn!

    From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to All on Saturday, November 21, 2020 02:18:59
    So the media is the real winner for this presidential election. They elected Joe Biden in their own special way. Congratulations to Brooke Baldwin and Ana Cabrera, must have been those Ana Cabrera legs trashing Trump that sealed the deal.

    Anyway, the 49.9% of us who voted Trump are not happy with all this crazy liberal stuff that is being expected by Joe Biden, the man who will soon have executive order power to do just about anything he wants.

    Expect this: We conservatives don't own the media. So not even Fox News is going to sit around and trash the new president. But I will. I feel anguish over the media controlling the herd. Enough anguish that I will probably complain to my US rep for just about any and every false move this guy makes. I won't be the only one complaining.

    Are liberals at their boiling point? Ready to have a liberal president make some progressive reforms? You ready for that? Close all the damn prisons in the USA because BLM demands it from Joe Biden because they voted for him?

    Those celebrities who promised to leave the USA if Trump were elected, they were full of crap. Do you think 49.9% of the USA is going to lie about leaving if you close our prisons? The liberals are manipulating stupid people, and they're trying to create a world where only the elite can survive.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Saturday, November 21, 2020 13:05:56
    Hello Aaron,

    So the media is the real winner for this presidential election. They elected
    Joe Biden in their own special way. Congratulations to Brooke Baldwin and Ana
    Cabrera, must have been those Ana Cabrera legs trashing Trump that sealed the
    deal.

    Right wing whackos (such as Rush Limbaugh) own talk radio. And yet,
    Joe Biden trounced his nearest opponent by 6 million more votes
    nationally. That is almost 80 million votes total. Maybe more, given
    the final vote count.

    Anyway, the 49.9% of us who voted Trump are not happy with all this crazy liberal stuff that is being expected by Joe Biden, the man who will soon have
    executive order power to do just about anything he wants.

    The soon to be former president barely received 47% of the popular
    vote nationally, and also lost the electoral college by a large margin.

    Expect this: We conservatives don't own the media.

    Right wing whackos own talk radio. Over 1500 channels.

    So not even Fox News is going to sit around and trash the new president. But
    I will.

    Well, at least you recognize Joe Biden won the election.

    I feel anguish over the media controlling the herd.

    Rush Limbaugh ain't dead yet. But probably will be soon, given
    he is stage 4.

    Enough anguish that I will probably complain to my US rep for just about any
    and every false move this guy makes. I won't be the only one complaining.

    I don't listen to talk radio. So knock yourself out.

    Are liberals at their boiling point? Ready to have a liberal president make
    some progressive reforms? You ready for that? Close all the damn prisons in
    the USA because BLM demands it from Joe Biden because they voted for him?

    Prisoners should be allowed to vote. After all, voting is a right.
    Not a privilege. Bernie Sanders reminded us all about that during the primaries. But he didn't win the nomination, so we have to with Joe's
    plan, which is to continue the status quo.

    Those celebrities who promised to leave the USA if Trump were elected, they
    were full of crap. Do you think 49.9% of the USA is going to lie about leaving if you close our prisons? The liberals are manipulating stupid people, tand hey're trying to create a world where only the elite can survive.

    Once Rush Limbaugh retires, there will be an opening for a new
    talk radio host. You have my endorsement for the job. Just think
    of what that would mean. You could win a medal.

    --Lee

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Aaron Thomas on Sunday, November 22, 2020 00:25:00
    On 11-21-20 02:18, Aaron Thomas <=-
    spoke to All about Libs: Your turn! <=-

    Anyway, the 49.9% of us who voted Trump are not happy with all this

    Check your figures. The spread was more than that. Trump got 47.2% of
    the vote.

    Dale Shipp
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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Sunday, November 22, 2020 09:56:29
    Right wing whackos (such as Rush Limbaugh) own talk radio. And yet,
    Joe Biden trounced his nearest opponent by 6 million more votes

    But nobody listens to talk radio because it sucks. Rush Limbaugh is boring.

    The soon to be former president barely received 47% of the popular
    vote nationally, and also lost the electoral college by a large margin.

    Whether it's 47% or 49%, there are millions of voters who voted for Trump out of fear of terrible liberal policy changes.

    Prisoners should be allowed to vote. After all, voting is a right.
    Not a privilege. Bernie Sanders reminded us all about that during the

    They should be allowed as long as they're not in for a felony conviction.

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Aaron Thomas on Sunday, November 22, 2020 12:30:00
    Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-

    So the media is the real winner for this presidential election.

    Actually, the media lost in this election.

    They made people distrust them even more - and tune them out.
    If Biden does get elected, then they will lose even more eyeballs since their TDS has kept people tuned into them for the last 4 years.

    No matter what happens, the current media "giants" are falling.


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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Ron Lauzon on Sunday, November 22, 2020 15:03:50
    On 22 Nov 20 12:30:00, Ron Lauzon said the following to Aaron Thomas:

    They made people distrust them even more - and tune them out.
    If Biden does get elected, then they will lose even more eyeballs since the TDS has kept people tuned into them for the last 4 years.

    This. Without Trump, watch ratings and TDS hysteria drop. Except of course, milking Covid for all its worth or going back to climate change hysteria.

    Nick

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Monday, November 23, 2020 03:29:12
    Hello Aaron,

    Right wing whackos (such as Rush Limbaugh) own talk radio. And yet,
    Joe Biden trounced his nearest opponent by 6 million more votes

    But nobody listens to talk radio because it sucks. Rush Limbaugh is boring.

    I am sure you would be able to find a noisemaker you like.
    After all, they own some 1500 stations.

    The soon to be former president barely received 47% of the popular
    vote nationally, and also lost the electoral college by a large margin.

    Whether it's 47% or 49%, there are millions of voters who voted for Trump out of fear of terrible liberal policy changes.

    Trump was still over 6 million votes short. Whoever wins the
    Republican nomination in 2024 will have an even more difficult
    time as their nominee will be facing a popular incumbent who
    beat the pants off an extremely unpopular incumbent.

    Donald Trump will not be the Republican nominee as he has no
    desire to be a two-time loser. And no way he is going to run as
    an independent or third party candidate.

    Prisoners should be allowed to vote. After all, voting is a right.
    Not a privilege. Bernie Sanders reminded us all about that during the

    They should be allowed as long as they're not in for a felony conviction.

    Why? They are American citizens. And voting is a right, not a
    privilege. Why should American citizens have to wait until they
    are out of prison to vote? Why should ex-cons be denied their
    right to vote? We are so unkind to ourselves.

    --Lee

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Ron Lauzon on Sunday, November 22, 2020 22:16:57
    Re: Re: Libs: Your turn!
    By: Ron Lauzon to Aaron Thomas on Sun Nov 22 2020 12:30 pm

    Actually, the media lost in this election.

    Donald Trump lost this election.

    The media was never running for anything and had nothing to win.

    They made people distrust them even more - and tune them out.
    If Biden does get elected, then they will lose even more eyeballs since their TDS has kept people tuned into them for the last 4 years.

    People may trust or not the media outlet of their choice.

    No matter what happens, the current media "giants" are falling.

    Not likely.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Joacim Melin@2:221/242 to Aaron Thomas on Monday, November 23, 2020 07:53:22
    So the media is the real winner for this presidential election. They elected
    Joe Biden in their own special way. Congratulations to Brooke Baldwin
    and Ana
    Cabrera, must have been those Ana Cabrera legs trashing Trump that
    sealed the
    deal.

    Anyway, the 49.9% of us who voted Trump are not happy with all this
    crazy
    liberal stuff that is being expected by Joe Biden, the man who will
    soon have
    executive order power to do just about anything he wants.

    The popular vote doesn't count, remember? And Biden won both the popular vore and the electroral college and there is no amount of spin or dodgy law suits from the Trump camp that will ever change this, regardless of how Trump tried to move this election in his favour.

    In short: your guy is an asshole who treated everyone who didn't like him and praised him like dirt and he is getting kicked out because of it. Good riddance.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Ron Lauzon on Monday, November 23, 2020 12:21:17
    So the media is the real winner for this presidential election.

    Actually, the media lost in this election.

    They made people distrust them even more - and tune them out.
    If Biden does get elected, then they will lose even more eyeballs since the TDS has kept people tuned into them for the last 4 years.

    I see what you mean. TV would go through major changes with Biden as president. Stephen Colbert will probably get fired, so I guess some good can come out of it. What's he gonna do without Trump jokes?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Monday, November 23, 2020 12:35:28
    They should be allowed as long as they're not in for a felony convicti

    Why? They are American citizens. And voting is a right, not a

    It's the law and we have more important ammendments to make than to be sucking up to the "criminal community."

    We're all American citizens, so why should any of us go to jail for murdering innocent people?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Joacim Melin on Monday, November 23, 2020 12:44:37
    In short: your guy is an asshole who treated everyone who didn't like him a praised him like dirt and he is getting kicked out because of it. Good riddance.

    But you're putting too much thought into Trump's personality. What about his good policies? Burn them because we didn't like Trump's personality, and we don't want any relics lying around?

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Aaron Thomas on Monday, November 23, 2020 14:38:44
    Re: Re: Libs: Your turn!
    By: Aaron Thomas to Ron Lauzon on Mon Nov 23 2020 12:21 pm

    president. Stephen Colbert will probably get fired, so I guess some good can come out of it. What's he gonna do without Trump jokes?

    Oh, there'll be Trump jokes for years after DJT has finally faded away into obscurity - they'll be named Donald Jr., Ivanka, and Eric.
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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Aaron Thomas on Monday, November 23, 2020 14:41:49
    Re: Re: Libs: Your turn!
    By: Aaron Thomas to Joacim Melin on Mon Nov 23 2020 12:44 pm

    But you're putting too much thought into Trump's personality. What about his good policies?

    Like? Citations, please.
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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to NICK ANDRE on Monday, November 23, 2020 16:25:00
    They made people distrust them even more - and tune them out.
    If Biden does get elected, then they will lose even more eyeballs since the
    TDS has kept people tuned into them for the last 4 years.

    This. Without Trump, watch ratings and TDS hysteria drop. Except of course, milking Covid for all its worth or going back to climate change hysteria.

    Or Joe Biden's cognative decline so we can, you know, get Harris in the
    Oval Office.

    If it isn't one of those things, they will find something else to crap the
    bed about.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to LEE LOFASO on Monday, November 23, 2020 16:27:00
    Right wing whackos (such as Rush Limbaugh) own talk radio. And yet,
    Joe Biden trounced his nearest opponent by 6 million more votes

    But nobody listens to talk radio because it sucks. Rush Limbaugh is boring.

    I am sure you would be able to find a noisemaker you like.
    After all, they own some 1500 stations.

    Talk radio has been irrelevant for years.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JOACIM MELIN on Monday, November 23, 2020 16:34:00
    In short: your guy is an asshole who treated everyone who didn't like him and p
    aised him like dirt and he is getting kicked out because of it. Good riddance.

    Tell us about how Sweden is handling COVID. They don't tell us about that here.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Monday, November 23, 2020 17:11:00
    But you're putting too much thought into Trump's personality. What about his good policies? Burn them because we didn't like Trump's personality, and we don't want any relics lying around?

    He won't find any good in Trump's policies because he doesn't live in the
    US. Trump took our handout money away from several countries, and
    threatened to with others. I am guessing he lives in one of those
    countries. Putting American interests first threatens their freebies.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Kurt Weiske on Monday, November 23, 2020 21:35:02
    But you're putting too much thought into Trump's personality. What about his good policies?

    Like? Citations, please.

    Which country are you from? One where personality is more important than policy?

    It would take me months to give you a complete list of the positive things Trump has done. Many of his accomplishments have been noted in this echo dozens of times already. Are you new here?

    Here's my favorite:

    Trump's wall - 321 miles built during Trump's presidency https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_wall#:~:text=By%20September%2025%2C%202020 %2C%20321,replaced%20old%20or%20broken%20barriers.

    Remain in Mexico policy - Keeping illegal immigrants at bay https://www.npr.org/2020/03/11/814582798/u-s-supreme-court-allows-remain-in-me xico-program-to-continue

    Israel first - standing by our commitment to helping allies https://www.vox.com/2018/5/14/17340798/jerusalem-embassy-israel-palestinians-u s-trump

    Diplomacy with NK - Obama's hide & pretend they don't exist no longer a thing https://www.ncnk.org/resources/briefing-papers/all-briefing-papers/history-u.s .-dprk-relations

    Let's see if Joe Biden moves the embasy back to Tel Aviv, fires border patrol, ignores North Korea, or tears down border walls built by Trump. He needs to rub our noses in Trump's dung in order to show his fans that "the division is over" (if that makes any sense?)

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Mike Powell on Monday, November 23, 2020 22:02:35
    countries. Putting American interests first threatens their freebies.

    Ha! I'm guessing that he's not from Ukraine because I can't imagine Joe Biden being liked much there.

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Mike Powell on Monday, November 23, 2020 22:56:17
    On 23 Nov 20 16:25:00, Mike Powell said the following to Nick Andre:

    This. Without Trump, watch ratings and TDS hysteria drop. Except of course, milking Covid for all its worth or going back to climate change hysteria.

    Or Joe Biden's cognative decline so we can, you know, get Harris in the Oval Office.

    I'm curious to see how he will handle the silly demands of the leftists, ie. defund the police, reparations for slavery, green new deal flatulent-cow nonsense etc. If he doesn't cave in at least a little, its riot-time.

    What I'm *really* waiting on, is another racial slip-up from him... something to make the "you ain't black" fiasco look like a friendly compliment. I'm curious to see how the media will run interferance for him when he does. I mentioned this before, about how his casual black racism is really more disturbing than any gaffes from Trump.

    Nick

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 01:01:12
    On 11-23-20 21:35, Aaron Thomas <=-
    spoke to Kurt Weiske about Re: Libs: Your turn! <=-

    Here's my favorite:

    Trump's wall - 321 miles built during Trump's presidency https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_wall#:~:text=By%20September%2025%2C %202020 %2C%20321,replaced%20old%20or%20broken%20barriers.

    Read that article again. It says that there were nine miles of new
    wall, the rest was repair and replacement of existing barriers. Plus
    the fact that money spent on the wall was taken from approved military
    budgets.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Dale Shipp on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 02:56:49
    Read that article again. It says that there were nine miles of new
    wall, the rest was repair and replacement of existing barriers. Plus
    the fact that money spent on the wall was taken from approved military budgets.

    You have to put on your own fact-checking glasses while reading any article from any source. No news reporter shall ever be trusted again after this TDS pandemic.

    the fact that money spent on the wall was taken from approved military budgets.

    The wall is defense. That's why stores like Target have walls.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 12:58:29
    Hello Aaron,

    They should be allowed as long as they're not in for a felony
    convicti

    Why? They are American citizens. And voting is a right, not a

    It's the law and we have more important ammendments to make than to be sucking up to the "criminal community."

    The US Constitution is the Supreme Law of the land. Voting is a
    right. Not a privilege. All citizens age 18 and above have that right. Including those who are incarcerated in criminal institutions. And
    mental institutions. So why exclude any of them?

    We're all American citizens, so why should any of us go to jail for murdering innocent people?

    Some police deserve to go to jail, and should be incarcerated,
    as murdering innocent people is not a right - or even a privilege.

    --Lee

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Nick Andre on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 08:10:00
    Nick Andre wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

    This. Without Trump, watch ratings and TDS hysteria drop. Except of course, milking Covid for all its worth or going back to climate change hysteria.

    Yup. Standard Leftie misdirection. Keep the public focused on the non-issue while their comrades in the Media fail to report on the real issues.

    Right now, it's "COVID will kill us all" to keep people distracted from the countless cases of blatent fraud in the election.

    Once the election is over, it will be something else.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Ron Lauzon on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 07:53:32
    Re: Re: Libs: Your turn!
    By: Ron Lauzon to Nick Andre on Tue Nov 24 2020 08:10 am

    Right now, it's "COVID will kill us all" to keep people distracted from the countless cases of blatent fraud in the election.

    I don't think covid will kill us all but it is killing roughly 1,500 people a day and infections are on the rise.

    Rounding the curve? Not yet.

    Once the election is over, it will be something else.

    I hope that covid will soon be history but that hasn't happened yet.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 11:55:52
    The US Constitution is the Supreme Law of the land. Voting is a
    right. Not a privilege. All citizens age 18 and above have that right.

    But we have state constitutions with laws against it. Are we gonna fight for voting rights for felons, or is there anything else more important right now?

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Mike Powell on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 08:41:00
    Mike Powell wrote to NICK ANDRE <=-

    Or Joe Biden's cognative decline so we can, you know, get Harris in the Oval Office.

    You should be thankful that Trump lost. With his raging pre-frontal
    dementia, he wouldn't last through the midterms -- and then you'd be
    dealing with President Pence, or a Fidel Castro-like puppet regime
    where we'd hear recordings of el presidente. They'd have to hire Alec
    Baldwin to show up for public appearances.

    Better to have him bow out gracefully (too late for that) and make
    room for someone else named Trump to try and run in 2024. I'll get
    the popcorn ready for that.



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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Dale Shipp on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 08:45:00
    Dale Shipp wrote to Aaron Thomas <=-

    Read that article again. It says that there were nine miles of new
    wall, the rest was repair and replacement of existing barriers. Plus
    the fact that money spent on the wall was taken from approved military budgets.

    So, inflate a campaign promise from the 2016 election in time for the
    2020 election, and divert funding from the military to do so? Boy,
    Howdy, put as check in the win column!

    1-36 in post-election court cases. There's a citation for Aaron.



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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 08:54:00
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dale Shipp <=-

    The wall is defense. That's why stores like Target have walls.

    I've been sitting here for a couple of minutes trying to figure
    out how to respond, and I'm at a loss.

    We're not at war with Mexico and Central America. We welcome
    undocumented immigrants in order to provide agricultural and service
    labor at rates below minimum wage. Completely close the border and
    we'll have unhappy rich white shareholders in ag companies, unhappy
    constituents unwilling to pay $10 for a head of lettuce and unhappy
    hispanic citizens who make up a serious voting block in the southwest
    and who'll vote for the other party next time. None of these is good
    for re-election. Hence, hand-wringing.

    Target stores have walls because otherwise the stuff inside would, you
    know, fall out.




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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Ron Lauzon on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 08:56:00
    Ron Lauzon wrote to Nick Andre <=-

    Right now, it's "COVID will kill us all" to keep people distracted from the countless cases of blatent fraud in the election.

    Once the election is over, it will be something else.

    I thought COVID was going away in April. Or June, once the weather
    warms up. Or November 4th?



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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Ron Lauzon on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 08:59:00
    Ron Lauzon wrote to Nick Andre <=-

    Nick Andre wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

    Yup. Standard Leftie misdirection. Keep the public focused on the non-issue while their comrades in the Media fail to report on the real issues.

    Right now, it's "COVID will kill us all" to keep people distracted from the countless cases of blatent fraud in the election.

    We're looking at the election counts in Kentucky and South Carolina,
    noting that Trump (1-36 in post election-night court cases) is only
    contesting presidential votes, and not the senate and congressional
    seats on the same ticket, and wondering why, if the democrats put
    such a fix in on the election that they wouldn't have swung a couple
    of senate seats and not lost the house seats they did?

    Countless cases, indeed. I think the count is 37, if you count
    baseless claims.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 19:12:46
    Hello Aaron,

    countries. Putting American interests first threatens their freebies.

    Ha! I'm guessing that he's not from Ukraine because I can't imagine Joe Biden
    being liked much there.

    The president of Ukraine sent his congratulations to Joe Biden
    being elected POTUS. I am sure President Biden will be happy to
    invite the Ukrainian president for a shin dig at the White House
    at a time of their choosing. And even visit Ukraine for a shin
    dig at his place.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 19:13:21
    Hello Mike,

    In short: your guy is an asshole who treated everyone who didn't like
    him and p
    aised him like dirt and he is getting kicked out because of it. Good
    riddance.

    Tell us about how Sweden is handling COVID. They don't tell us about that here.

    Wearing face coverings, practice social distancing, washing hands
    with soap and water ...

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 19:14:14
    Hello Mike,

    But you're putting too much thought into Trump's personality. What about
    his
    good policies? Burn them because we didn't like Trump's personality, and we
    don't want any relics lying around?

    He won't find any good in Trump's policies because he doesn't live in the US. Trump took our handout money away from several countries, and threatened to with others. I am guessing he lives in one of those countries. Putting American interests first threatens their freebies.

    The United States provides no development assistance to Sweden. Sweden
    is a member of the European Union (EU). The U.S. economic relationship
    with the EU is the largest and most complex in the world, and the
    United States and the EU continue to pursue initiatives to create new opportunities for transatlantic commerce. Jul 30, 2020
    [www.state.gov]


    --Lee

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to NICK ANDRE on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 14:26:00
    What I'm *really* waiting on, is another racial slip-up from him... something to make the "you ain't black" fiasco look like a friendly compliment. I'm curious to see how the media will run interferance for him when he does. I mentioned this before, about how his casual black racism is really more disturbing than any gaffes from Trump.

    I didn't bring it up much because I didn't want to get into verbal fights
    with them, but I have a few friends that I was shocked to find were not offended by that or any other racial gaffe that Biden has made. The
    believe that the Biden victory is a victory against racism. Of course,
    they may also believe, as I do, that Biden won't be President in 4 years,
    so maybe that is when the victory happens.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to KURT WEISKE on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 17:14:00
    Or Joe Biden's cognative decline so we can, you know, get Harris in the Oval Office.

    You should be thankful that Trump lost. With his raging pre-frontal
    dementia, he wouldn't last through the midterms -- and then you'd be
    dealing with President Pence, or a Fidel Castro-like puppet regime
    where we'd hear recordings of el presidente. They'd have to hire Alec
    Baldwin to show up for public appearances.

    Biden has Trump beat when it comes to dementia. People who say that Trump
    has dementia just don't like what he says. It doesn't really matter what
    Biden is saying when his flares up because you will never know if you like
    it or not.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to LEE LOFASO on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 17:18:00
    Tell us about how Sweden is handling COVID. They don't tell us about that >MP> here.

    Wearing face coverings, practice social distancing, washing hands
    with soap and water ...

    I didn't ask you because you supposedly don't live in Sweden... or did you
    slip up?


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 17:33:00
    But we have state constitutions with laws against it. Are we gonna fight for voting rights for felons, or is there anything else more important right now?

    In states that have such an arrangement, Bloomberg paid the fines of felons
    so that they could vote in the general election. So, like a good D he
    found yet another way to legally buy votes, similar to Harris's team paying bail for west coast rioters.

    Got to have all of the law breakers out voting. The D's can't win without them.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to KURT WEISKE on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 17:54:00
    We're looking at the election counts in Kentucky and South Carolina,
    noting that Trump (1-36 in post election-night court cases) is only
    contesting presidential votes, and not the senate and congressional
    seats on the same ticket, and wondering why, if the democrats put
    such a fix in on the election that they wouldn't have swung a couple
    of senate seats and not lost the house seats they did?

    Someone already explained Kentucky to you. It would have taken too much of
    an obvious fix to get McGrath the win, plus our AG and SoS are both Republicans. The out-of-state Democrats financially backed an unelectable candidate. Anyone trying to fix that election would have had no one to
    help cover their tracks.

    But I am guessing that is too many words for someone who thinks that
    getting everything free leads to innovation.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Ron Lauzon on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 03:04:59
    Hello Ron,

    This. Without Trump, watch ratings and TDS hysteria drop. Except of
    course, milking Covid for all its worth or going back to climate change
    hysteria.

    Yup. Standard Leftie misdirection. Keep the public focused on the non-issue
    while their comrades in the Media fail to report on the real issues.

    People are dying. A lot of people. In record numbers. And all your
    sorry excuse of a president can think of doing is to play golf.

    Right now, it's "COVID will kill us all" to keep people distracted from the
    countless cases of blatent fraud in the election.

    There is no evidence of any such "blatent fraud" in the election.
    None that anybody could find. Got any more lies to tell?

    Once the election is over, it will be something else.

    COVID-19 is still killing people at record levels.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Alan Ianson on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 03:05:55
    Hello Alan,

    Right now, it's "COVID will kill us all" to keep people distracted from
    the countless cases of blatent fraud in the election.

    I don't think covid will kill us all but it is killing roughly 1,500 people
    a day and infections are on the rise.

    Rounding the curve? Not yet.

    In the television series "The Ship" a global pandemic wiped out
    85% of the world's population. Then a vaccine was developed, and
    used to save the remaining population. Of course, the fight was
    all about who would get the vaccine supply and thus decide who
    it would be distributed to. This was all fiction and could never
    happen in real life. Or so we thought. Until the real thing with
    the novel coronavirus happened.

    Once the election is over, it will be something else.

    I hope that covid will soon be history but that hasn't happened yet.

    It will likely become endemic, if it hasn't already.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Kurt Weiske on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 03:06:16
    Hello Kurt,

    The wall is defense. That's why stores like Target have walls.

    I've been sitting here for a couple of minutes trying to figure
    out how to respond, and I'm at a loss.

    We're not at war with Mexico and Central America. We welcome
    undocumented immigrants in order to provide agricultural and service
    labor at rates below minimum wage. Completely close the border and
    we'll have unhappy rich white shareholders in ag companies, unhappy constituents unwilling to pay $10 for a head of lettuce and unhappy hispanic citizens who make up a serious voting block in the southwest
    and who'll vote for the other party next time. None of these is good
    for re-election. Hence, hand-wringing.

    Hence the need to build a wall. Gotta keep all the peasants in,
    else rich folks would have to do all the hard labor themselves.

    Target stores have walls because otherwise the stuff inside would, you know, fall out.

    Did China build a wall to keep everybody in? Or to keep everybody out?
    And why does everybody call the wall that China made "The Great Wall"?
    Could it be the wall that Trump built is just a minor wall? Which when
    you think about it, nine miles of wall is not really that much.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 03:06:27
    Hello Aaron,

    The US Constitution is the Supreme Law of the land. Voting is a
    right. Not a privilege. All citizens age 18 and above have that right.

    But we have state constitutions with laws against it. Are we gonna fight for
    voting rights for felons, or is there anything else more important right now?

    One more time -

    ARTICLE VI

    THE CONSTITUTION ... SHALL BE THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND.

    You should read it sometime.

    There is nothing in the US Constitution prohibiting individuals
    who are incarcerated in prison from voting. There is nothing in the
    US Constitution prohibiting residents of mental institutions from
    voting. There is nothing in the US Constitution prohibiting children
    from voting. Or even babies. Or old folks with dementia or alzheimer's
    from voting. Or those who have completely lost their minds.

    If those who claim to be "pro-life" were truly "pro-life", they
    would demand every single life, including the unborn, having the
    right to vote.

    But we all know that will never happen ...

    --Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Kurt Weiske on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 21:25:16
    We're not at war with Mexico and Central America. We welcome
    undocumented immigrants in order to provide agricultural and service
    labor at rates below minimum wage. Completely close the border and

    I don't welcome that. Paying undocumented immigrants to come here and do seasonal work is something I'd like to see ended for many reasons.

    Paying undocumented workers "at rates below minimum wage" is slavery, and who better than the Democrats to re-enforce modern day slavery?

    we'll have unhappy rich white shareholders in ag companies, unhappy
    constituents unwilling to pay $10 for a head of lettuce and unhappy
    hispanic citizens who make up a serious voting block in the southwest

    Hispanic citizens don't want illegals here either. There are actually hispanic people who want to live in peace, but they have no voice in the media.

    I'd rather pay $10 for a head of lettuce than have illegal immigrants feel welcome here. The maximum sentence for 1st degree murder in Ecuador is 16 years. Prison escapes are rampant, and bribing prosecutors is easy if you have a modest amount of money in your wallet.

    Do these values sound compatible with what we've come to expect in the USA?

    Do you think you're gonna murder somone, get caught, give $20 to the cops, and be drinking in your favorite pub later that night? Of course not. We know
    we'd be in big unescapable trouble. But illegals? Do they know that? How could they know a damn thing? They didn't have a consultation with the US Consulate; they are fresh off the streets of the barrios - that's why they're on their way here.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 21:39:52
    The president of Ukraine sent his congratulations to Joe Biden
    being elected POTUS. I am sure President Biden will be happy to
    invite the Ukrainian president for a shin dig at the White House
    at a time of their choosing. And even visit Ukraine for a shin
    dig at his place.

    That's sweet but why not invite Viktor Shokin instead? He's the one who lost his job due to corruption in the White House.

    I bet the Ukranian president will be happy to meet with the guy who has worldwide firing power.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 22:18:14
    There is nothing in the US Constitution prohibiting individuals

    Ok, but now we have state constitutions that contradict the US constitution.

    Personally I don't care if felons can vote or not. The majority of them are going to have different plans on election day anyway.

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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Mike Powell on Tuesday, November 24, 2020 23:47:42
    On 24 Nov 20 14:26:00, Mike Powell said the following to Nick Andre:

    I didn't bring it up much because I didn't want to get into verbal fights with them, but I have a few friends that I was shocked to find were not offended by that or any other racial gaffe that Biden has made. The

    We haven't seen anything yet... wait for president Harris.

    Nick

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 14:55:56
    Hello Mike,

    Tell us about how Sweden is handling COVID. They don't tell us about
    that
    here.

    Wearing face coverings, practice social distancing, washing hands
    with soap and water ...

    I didn't ask you because you supposedly don't live in Sweden... or did you slip up?

    What makes you think people in Sweden do not wear face coverings,
    practice social distancing, and wash their hands with soap and water?

    --Lee

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 12:01:00
    There is nothing in the US Constitution prohibiting individuals

    Ok, but now we have state constitutions that contradict the US constitution.

    Personally I don't care if felons can vote or not. The majority of them are going to have different plans on election day anyway.

    If a state has something in their constitution, or a law, that covers
    something that is not in the US Constitution, it is usually considered to
    be one of the things the US Constitution leaves up to the states. That is, until someone challenges it in court, at which point it is either proven to
    be something left up to the states or is proven unconstitutional.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to NICK ANDRE on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 11:45:00
    I didn't bring it up much because I didn't want to get into verbal fights with them, but I have a few friends that I was shocked to find were not offended by that or any other racial gaffe that Biden has made. The

    We haven't seen anything yet... wait for president Harris.

    That might be enough to get me looking to become a subject of PM Trudeau.


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  • From Nick Andre@1:229/426 to Mike Powell on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 15:36:23
    On 25 Nov 20 11:45:00, Mike Powell said the following to Nick Andre:

    We haven't seen anything yet... wait for president Harris.

    That might be enough to get me looking to become a subject of PM Trudeau.

    Be like everyone else that voted for him just because of his last name and
    the pied-piper dance of legalizing weed.

    Nick

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 23:42:36
    Hello Aaron,

    We're not at war with Mexico and Central America. We welcome
    undocumented immigrants in order to provide agricultural and service
    labor at rates below minimum wage. Completely close the border and

    I don't welcome that. Paying undocumented immigrants to come here and do seasonal work is something I'd like to see ended for many reasons.

    The federal mandated minimum wage does not cover seasonal agricultural
    workers. Even after President Biden increases the federal minimum wage
    to $15 an hour, seasonal agricultural workers will continue to be paid
    far less.

    Paying undocumented workers "at rates below minimum wage" is slavery, and who better than the Democrats to re-enforce modern day slavery?

    Amendment XIII allows for involuntary servitude. Which continues
    to exist in our prisons.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 23:42:48
    Hello Aaron,

    The president of Ukraine sent his congratulations to Joe Biden
    being elected POTUS. I am sure President Biden will be happy to
    invite the Ukrainian president for a shin dig at the White House
    at a time of their choosing. And even visit Ukraine for a shin
    dig at his place.

    That's sweet but why not invite Viktor Shokin instead? He's the one who lost
    his job due to corruption in the White House.

    I bet the Ukranian president will be happy to meet with the guy who has worldwide firing power.

    He is a comedian who won the election for president of his country.
    In a free and fair election. Dictators choose to play by their own
    rules, rather than allowing "we the people" to have any real say.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 23:43:38
    Hello Aaron,

    There is nothing in the US Constitution prohibiting individuals

    Ok, but now we have state constitutions that contradict the US constitution.

    Do you understand Article VI? Read it. The term supreme law of
    the land means nothing is equal or above it.

    Personally I don't care if felons can vote or not.

    Voting is a right. Nobody should be denied their rights.
    That includes those who have been convicted of crimes and
    spending time in penal institutions.

    The majority of them are going to have different plans on election day anyway.

    We have mail-in voting. That would work well for those who are
    shut-ins, such as folks in prison.

    --Lee

    --
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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Mike Powell on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 20:03:32
    If a state has something in their constitution, or a law, that covers something that is not in the US Constitution, it is usually considered to

    So the state always has the right to argue with the US Constitution, right?

    It seems that way anyway. The way that the states started legalizing weed seems like a good example. I like weed and everything, but what are they doing to my country? Changing the rules about good & bad? That looks like it could be a precursor for more "bad" stuff becoming legalized by a state for re-election purposes.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 20:22:24
    The federal mandated minimum wage does not cover seasonal agricultural workers. Even after President Biden increases the federal minimum wage
    to $15 an hour, seasonal agricultural workers will continue to be paid
    far less.

    That's not what we want. What happens to pesos when dollars become worthless?

    Anyone working in the USA, temporary or not, should be paid the federal minimum wage. I wouldn't feel comfortable if I lived next to a farm where poor migrant workers are working for pennies like slaves on the plantation. If that's a Democrat story, which I think it is, you should talk to your reps about that stuff. If Democrats care about central Americans as much as they say they do, they should put their money where their mouths are.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 20:25:23
    He is a comedian who won the election for president of his country.
    In a free and fair election. Dictators choose to play by their own
    rules, rather than allowing "we the people" to have any real say.

    Dictators are friends of Obama.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 20:42:46
    We have mail-in voting. That would work well for those who are
    shut-ins, such as folks in prison.

    I've met a lot of ex-cons. A couple of them are not living a life of crime,
    but the other 90% are not paying 1 second of attention to elections.

    Go ahead and restore voting rights to all felons and see if it puts a dent in the other 47% of America's voters. If anything, it will make other cows in the pasture feel good about being backwards.

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Mike Powell on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 07:02:00
    Mike Powell wrote to KURT WEISKE <=-

    But I am guessing that is too many words for someone who thinks that getting everything free leads to innovation.

    "Getting Everything Free"? Reductio ad absurdum.





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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Lee Lofaso on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 07:04:00
    Lee Lofaso wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    Hence the need to build a wall. Gotta keep all the peasants in,
    else rich folks would have to do all the hard labor themselves.

    Maybe Trump would have had better luck having Mexico pay for the wall
    if he sold it as keeping us gringos out. Instead, he took from
    military appropriations - perhaps to keep that caravan of illegals
    that never showed up away?

    Target stores have walls because otherwise the stuff inside would, you know, fall out.

    Did China build a wall to keep everybody in? Or to keep everybody out?
    And why does everybody call the wall that China made "The Great Wall"? Could it be the wall that Trump built is just a minor wall? Which when
    you think about it, nine miles of wall is not really that much.

    "It's a beautiful wall, some people say it was the best wall ever
    made... believe me - you won't find a better wall -- ever, and I've
    seen walls..."


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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, November 25, 2020 07:06:00
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    We're not at war with Mexico and Central America. We welcome
    undocumented immigrants in order to provide agricultural and service
    labor at rates below minimum wage. Completely close the border and

    I don't welcome that. Paying undocumented immigrants to come here and
    do seasonal work is something I'd like to see ended for many reasons.

    Paying undocumented workers "at rates below minimum wage" is slavery,
    and who better than the Democrats to re-enforce modern day slavery?

    The republicans? It's not a party issue. It's happened on both
    party's watches for years now.





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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to NICK ANDRE on Thursday, November 26, 2020 09:43:00
    We haven't seen anything yet... wait for president Harris.

    That might be enough to get me looking to become a subject of PM Trudeau.

    Be like everyone else that voted for him just because of his last name and the pied-piper dance of legalizing weed.

    Well, that last bit might at least make the rest of it a little easier to
    take. :)


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Thursday, November 26, 2020 09:43:00
    If a state has something in their constitution, or a law, that covers something that is not in the US Constitution, it is usually considered to

    So the state always has the right to argue with the US Constitution, right?

    Yes, for the most part.

    It seems that way anyway. The way that the states started legalizing weed seems like a good example. I like weed and everything, but what are they doing
    to my country? Changing the rules about good & bad? That looks like it could be a precursor for more "bad" stuff becoming legalized by a state for re-election purposes.

    With the 2020 election, Oregon has already taken a step in the "more 'bad' stuff" direction.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, November 26, 2020 17:21:40
    Hello Aaron,

    The federal mandated minimum wage does not cover seasonal agricultural
    workers. Even after President Biden increases the federal minimum wage
    to $15 an hour, seasonal agricultural workers will continue to be paid
    far less.

    That's not what we want. What happens to pesos when dollars become worthless?

    Americans will become Mexicans and spend pesos.

    Anyone working in the USA, temporary or not, should be paid the federal minimum wage.

    Why? Sweden has no federally mandated minimum wage. And the people
    in that part of the world seem to be doing just fine.

    I wouldn't feel comfortable if I lived next to a farm where poor
    migrant workers are working for pennies like slaves on the plantation.

    On the grounds of Angola State Prison in Louisiana, that is exactly
    what the neighbors have. The folks working the fields are paid much
    less than the federally mandated minimum wage. About 16 cents a day.
    Of course, they are also provided free housing. And free food. And
    free medical care. But that is all beside the point.

    If that's a Democrat story, which I think it is, you should talk to your reps about that stuff.

    Amending the US Constitution is not an easy task ...

    If Democrats care about central Americans as much as they
    say they do, they should put their money where their mouths are.

    The question is, why should there be a federally mandated minimum
    wage? As it stands today, there are actually 5 different types.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, November 26, 2020 17:21:51
    Hello Aaron,

    He is a comedian who won the election for president of his country.
    In a free and fair election. Dictators choose to play by their own
    rules, rather than allowing "we the people" to have any real say.

    Dictators are friends of Obama.

    O'Bama and the dictator of Ireland are great friends.
    The two of them got together in a pub in Ireland and the
    best of times.

    Biden and the dictator of Ireland are great friends.
    The two of them plan to get together in a pub in Ireland
    and have the best of times.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Thursday, November 26, 2020 17:22:37
    Hello Aaron,

    We have mail-in voting. That would work well for those who are
    shut-ins, such as folks in prison.

    I've met a lot of ex-cons. A couple of them are not living a life of crime,
    but the other 90% are not paying 1 second of attention to elections.

    Most people tend to look out for themselves before paying any
    attention to elections.

    Go ahead and restore voting rights to all felons and see if it puts a dent in the other 47% of America's voters. If anything, it will make other cows in the pasture feel good about being backwards.

    Why should those who are currently doing time be denied the right
    to vote? That is a miscarriage of justice, having no choice to decide
    who can or should represent them.

    Why should those who have done time (paid their debt to society)
    continue to be denied the right to vote? That is another miscarriage
    of justice.

    Why should those in mental institutions be denied the right to vote?
    Even though they have committed no crime, their penalty is the same
    as those who are doing hard time in penal institutions.

    Tell me that is justice.

    --Lee

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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Kurt Weiske on Thursday, November 26, 2020 08:55:00
    Kurt Weiske wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

    We're looking at the election counts in Kentucky and South Carolina,
    noting that Trump (1-36 in post election-night court cases) is only
    contesting presidential votes, and not the senate and congressional
    seats on the same ticket, and wondering why, if the democrats put
    such a fix in on the election that they wouldn't have swung a couple
    of senate seats and not lost the house seats they did?

    Probably because he has no standing to contest those seats. But most likely his case will have whole ballots thrown out, meaning that the more local candidates will benefit too.

    And you must have missed the news of the 136,000 votes in Michigan that had only Biden marked on the ballot.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Kurt Weiske on Thursday, November 26, 2020 11:18:58
    Maybe Trump would have had better luck having Mexico pay for the wall
    if he sold it as keeping us gringos out. Instead, he took from
    military appropriations - perhaps to keep that caravan of illegals
    that never showed up away?

    Caravan #50 never showed up?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Kurt Weiske on Thursday, November 26, 2020 11:22:30
    The republicans? It's not a party issue. It's happened on both
    party's watches for years now.

    That's a good point. Nobody really cares about migrant workers' rights. Just remember that next time someone pretends.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Thursday, November 26, 2020 11:38:11
    That's not what we want. What happens to pesos when dollars become worthless?

    Americans will become Mexicans and spend pesos.

    It's fine right?

    Anyone working in the USA, temporary or not, should be paid the federa minimum wage.

    Why? Sweden has no federally mandated minimum wage. And the people
    in that part of the world seem to be doing just fine.

    Because here in the states the Republicans have denounced slavery. If you feel threatened by anti-slavery initiatives, then you might want to stay in Sweden.



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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Thursday, November 26, 2020 11:52:18
    Go ahead and restore voting rights to all felons and see if it puts a in the other 47% of America's voters. If anything, it will make other in the pasture feel good about being backwards.

    Why should those who are currently doing time be denied the right

    I'm already in agreement with you. I'm all for it. Let's restore voting rights to convicts. Find me a Republican who is down with that and I will vote for them.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Kurt Weiske on Friday, November 27, 2020 05:15:41
    Hello Kurt,

    Hence the need to build a wall. Gotta keep all the peasants in,
    else rich folks would have to do all the hard labor themselves.

    Maybe Trump would have had better luck having Mexico pay for the wall
    if he sold it as keeping us gringos out. Instead, he took from
    military appropriations - perhaps to keep that caravan of illegals
    that never showed up away?

    He'd better hurry up 'cause he's running out of time ...

    Target stores have walls because otherwise the stuff inside would, you
    know, fall out.

    Did China build a wall to keep everybody in? Or to keep everybody out?
    And why does everybody call the wall that China made "The Great Wall"?
    Could it be the wall that Trump built is just a minor wall? Which when
    you think about it, nine miles of wall is not really that much.

    "It's a beautiful wall, some people say it was the best wall ever
    made... believe me - you won't find a better wall -- ever, and I've
    seen walls..."

    He'll be seeing four sides of a wall in the near future.
    A very beautiful wall. With a door that can only be opened
    from the outside ...

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, November 27, 2020 05:16:39
    Hello Aaron,

    That's not what we want. What happens to pesos when dollars become
    worthless?

    Americans will become Mexicans and spend pesos.

    It's fine right?

    Thanks to the tequila everything is fine.

    Anyone working in the USA, temporary or not, should be paid the
    federa
    minimum wage.

    Why? Sweden has no federally mandated minimum wage. And the people
    in that part of the world seem to be doing just fine.

    Because here in the states the Republicans have denounced slavery.

    Slavery and involuntary servitude still exist as punishment for crime. Republicans declare themselves as being in favor of "law and order".
    Therefore, Republicans have yet to denounce slavery.

    If you feel threatened by anti-slavery initiatives,

    Abraham Lincoln never freed the slaves. Neither did any other
    American president.

    then you might want to stay in Sweden.

    Bernie Sanders only thinks he lives in Sweden.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Friday, November 27, 2020 05:17:02
    Hello Aaron,

    Go ahead and restore voting rights to all felons and see if it
    puts a
    in the other 47% of America's voters. If anything, it will make
    other
    in the pasture feel good about being backwards.

    Why should those who are currently doing time be denied the right

    I'm already in agreement with you. I'm all for it. Let's restore voting rights to convicts. Find me a Republican who is down with that and I will vote for them.

    Bernie Sanders is compiling a list ...

    --Lee

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    Muslim rights are human rights!

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Friday, November 27, 2020 09:20:25
    Slavery and involuntary servitude still exist as punishment for crime. Republicans declare themselves as being in favor of "law and order". Therefore, Republicans have yet to denounce slavery.

    It's not slavery. Anyone comparing their prison sentence to slavery is insulting the African slaves who were treated like property, whipped or
    beaten for not completing tasks, that's way different than going to prison
    for something that you knew was illegal in the first place, and having a less than 5-star experience in the big house.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Friday, November 27, 2020 09:27:15
    Bernie Sanders is compiling a list ...

    A list of Republicans who want to restore voting rights to felons? It shouldn't take much compilation. Probably Mitt Romney is the guy for that.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Friday, November 27, 2020 10:51:00
    That's not what we want. What happens to pesos when dollars become worthless?

    Americans will become Mexicans and spend pesos.

    It's fine right?

    The peso will become worthless before the dollar.

    Anyone working in the USA, temporary or not, should be paid the feder
    minimum wage.

    Why? Sweden has no federally mandated minimum wage. And the people
    in that part of the world seem to be doing just fine.

    Remember what Lee has said here later when he is arguing that the US needs
    a federal minimum wage.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Saturday, November 28, 2020 04:31:39
    Hello Aaron,

    Bernie Sanders is compiling a list ...

    A list of Republicans who want to restore voting rights to felons? It shouldn't take much compilation. Probably Mitt Romney is the guy for that.

    One patriotic American? Is that all Republicans have? Just one?

    For whatever reason, or maybe for no reason at all, Mormons do not
    like Catholics. And Biden is a practicing Catholic.

    So why would Mitt Romney do what no other Mormon would do?

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Saturday, November 28, 2020 14:03:51
    Hello Mike,

    That's not what we want. What happens to pesos when dollars
    become
    worthless?

    Americans will become Mexicans and spend pesos.

    It's fine right?

    The peso will become worthless before the dollar.

    The peso is only worthless in the USA because the dollar
    is still worth something.

    Anyone working in the USA, temporary or not, should be paid
    the feder
    minimum wage.

    Why? Sweden has no federally mandated minimum wage. And the people
    in that part of the world seem to be doing just fine.

    Remember what Lee has said here later when he is arguing that the US needs a federal minimum wage.

    Do we really need to have a federally mandated minimum wage?

    Andrew Lang ran for president on a campaign promise to give
    everybody $1000 a month, no strings attached. Kamala Harris
    says she wants to give everybody $2000 a month, no strings
    attacked. Joe Biden says he wants to increase the federally
    mandated minimum wage to $15 an hour, increase everybody's
    social security check by 20%, and also change the COLA
    adjustment to more than it currently pays. In other words,
    more free money for everybody.

    I am sure finding the money to pay for all this free money
    will not be a problem. All a politician has to do is wave his
    magic wand and it will happen.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Saturday, November 28, 2020 20:24:25
    Hello Aaron,

    Slavery and involuntary servitude still exist as punishment for crime.
    Republicans declare themselves as being in favor of "law and order".
    Therefore, Republicans have yet to denounce slavery.

    It's not slavery.

    Yes, it is. It is even called slavery by the US Constitution.
    Amendment XIII. Read it.

    Anyone comparing their prison sentence to slavery is insulting the African slaves who were treated like property, whipped or beaten for not completing
    tasks, that's way different than going to prison for something that you knew was illegal in the first place, and having a less than 5-star experience in the big house.

    Amendment XIII was passed by Congress on January 31, 1865.
    Ratified December 6, 1865.

    The US Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land.

    --Lee

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Saturday, November 28, 2020 10:59:00
    Slavery and involuntary servitude still exist as punishment for crime. Republicans declare themselves as being in favor of "law and order". Therefore, Republicans have yet to denounce slavery.

    It's not slavery. Anyone comparing their prison sentence to slavery is insulting the African slaves who were treated like property, whipped or beaten for not completing tasks, that's way different than going to prison for something that you knew was illegal in the first place, and having a less than 5-star experience in the big house.

    Get Lee to explain to you Kamala's record of keeping "men of color" behind bars.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Saturday, November 28, 2020 11:10:00
    A list of Republicans who want to restore voting rights to felons? It shouldn't take much compilation. Probably Mitt Romney is the guy for that.

    I wonder where one draws the line re: restoring voting rights? There are various types of felonies. As an example, I don't think I care about denying someone convicted of posession the right to vote.

    OTOH, there are other crimes I do believe that losing the right to vote
    fits the crime... fraud, deception, crimes against the government, organinzed crime... I believe there is a fitting reason that those felons should not be involved in our electoral process in any way.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Saturday, November 28, 2020 20:52:37
    A list of Republicans who want to restore voting rights to felons? It shouldn't take much compilation. Probably Mitt Romney is the guy for t

    One patriotic American? Is that all Republicans have? Just one?

    It's not being patriotic; it's just legalizing some liberal crap immediately instead of letting the Democrats tease voters with it.

    For whatever reason, or maybe for no reason at all, Mormons do not
    like Catholics. And Biden is a practicing Catholic.

    Mormons are a pain in the ass, and so is Biden. They will hit it off.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Lee Lofaso on Saturday, November 28, 2020 22:07:08
    It's not slavery.

    Yes, it is. It is even called slavery by the US Constitution.
    Amendment XIII. Read it.

    I'll take your word for it, but we both know the difference between purchasing African slaves (Democrat) and putting criminals in prison (Republican.)

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Mike Powell on Saturday, November 28, 2020 22:13:11
    Get Lee to explain to you Kamala's record of keeping "men of color" behind bars.

    I know all about it! One minute she's smoking weed with Tupac, the next minute she's getting him 20 to life!

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Mike Powell on Saturday, November 28, 2020 22:17:49
    OTOH, there are other crimes I do believe that losing the right to vote fits the crime... fraud, deception, crimes against the government, organinz crime... I believe there is a fitting reason that those felons should not b involved in our electoral process in any way.

    I agree. But wouldn't it be better to just legalize it rather than let Democrats use it as a gimmick?

    Seriously - these dudes aren't gonna miss Tuesday Night Murder Rampage just because it's election day.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sunday, November 29, 2020 11:37:00
    OTOH, there are other crimes I do believe that losing the right to vote fits the crime... fraud, deception, crimes against the government, organin
    crime... I believe there is a fitting reason that those felons should not involved in our electoral process in any way.

    I agree. But wouldn't it be better to just legalize it rather than let Democrats use it as a gimmick?

    No, I don't believe that felons who practiced anything I listed above
    should be any part of our voting process. As most of those are "white
    collar" crimes, I doubt the Democrats want them voting, either.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:229/426 to Mike Powell on Sunday, November 29, 2020 22:30:21
    No, I don't believe that felons who practiced anything I listed above should be any part of our voting process. As most of those are "white collar" crimes, I doubt the Democrats want them voting, either.

    I understand, but you have a different perspective.

    When you give Democrats room to grow (corruptly) they use it to their advantage. My idea is for us (Republicans) to start ending those games
    before they start. Let's tackle the issues right now, instead of letting Democrats tackle them for us (corruptly) 2 months before election day.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Powell on Tuesday, December 01, 2020 05:36:49
    Hello Mike,

    OTOH, there are other crimes I do believe that losing the right to
    vote
    fits the crime... fraud, deception, crimes against the government,
    organin
    crime... I believe there is a fitting reason that those felons should
    not
    involved in our electoral process in any way.

    I agree. But wouldn't it be better to just legalize it rather than let
    Democrats use it as a gimmick?

    No, I don't believe that felons who practiced anything I listed above should be any part of our voting process. As most of those are "white collar" crimes, I doubt the Democrats want them voting, either.

    All who have done their time (paid their debt to society) should
    have their right to vote restored. So should those who are currently
    doing time, having a voice to say who represents them. There simply
    is no reason for any American citizen to be denied the right to vote. Regardless of their age, gender, or place of residence.

    --Lee

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