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  • Gabbard on border crisis

    From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALL on Sunday, September 26, 2021 11:13:00
    Tulsi Gabbard, on Twitter, 9/23/2021:

    "The Biden/Harris open-door policy has been a disaster. It needs to end now. The main beneficiaries of open borders are the gangs, cartels and human traffickers. The Trump policy of having people wait on the other side of the border worked and needs to be reinstated."


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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Mike Powell on Sunday, September 26, 2021 10:59:54
    On 26 Sep 2021, Mike Powell said the following...
    Tulsi Gabbard, on Twitter, 9/23/2021:
    "The Biden/Harris open-door policy has been a disaster. It needs to end now. The main beneficiaries of open borders are the gangs, cartels and human traffickers. The Trump policy of having people wait on the other side of the border worked and needs to be reinstated."

    Does Tulsi Gabbard know how many Haitians were deported back to
    Port-au-Prince?

    The border is not "open."

    Jeff.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Jeff Thiele on Sunday, September 26, 2021 12:55:47
    Does Tulsi Gabbard know how many Haitians were deported back to Port-au-Prince?

    Mayorkas says as many as 12K out of 17K Haitian migrants have been released into U.S., and that the number could be even higher.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Mike Powell on Sunday, September 26, 2021 13:11:40
    "The Biden/Harris open-door policy has been a disaster. It needs to end now. The main beneficiaries of open borders are the gangs, cartels and human traffickers. The Trump policy of having people wait on the other side of the border worked and needs to be reinstated."

    I like Tulsi, but she's useless. She should have drafted an immigration bill while she was in congress, if Joe's shortcomings are such a big deal to her.
    We can blame Joe all day but Congress is the real villain in all this. We're not getting out money's worth out of them, they're slacking, so Joe's signing executive orders for everything, just like Trump did.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Aaron Thomas on Sunday, September 26, 2021 13:15:40
    On 26 Sep 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...
    Does Tulsi Gabbard know how many Haitians were deported back to Port-au-Prince?
    Mayorkas says as many as 12K out of 17K Haitian migrants have been released into U.S., and that the number could be even higher.

    So considerably less than 100%. That doesn't sound like an "open border" to
    me.

    Jeff.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Aaron Thomas on Sunday, September 26, 2021 13:17:06
    On 26 Sep 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...
    "The Biden/Harris open-door policy has been a disaster. It needs to now. The main beneficiaries of open borders are the gangs, cartels an human traffickers. The Trump policy of having people wait on the oth side of the border worked and needs to be reinstated."
    I like Tulsi, but she's useless. She should have drafted an immigration bill while she was in congress, if Joe's shortcomings are such a big
    deal to her. We can blame Joe all day but Congress is the real villain
    in all this. We're not getting out money's worth out of them, they're slacking, so Joe's signing executive orders for everything, just like Trump did.

    So you'd be ok with a Democrat-written immigration bill, if only the Republicans in Congress would stop being obstructionists?


    Interesting.

    Jeff.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Jeff Thiele on Sunday, September 26, 2021 21:38:48
    Does Tulsi Gabbard know how many Haitians were deported back to Port-au-Prince?
    Mayorkas says as many as 12K out of 17K Haitian migrants have been released into U.S., and that the number could be even higher.

    So considerably less than 100%. That doesn't sound like an "open border" to me.

    70% is a lot. 70% = the majority of the Del Rio migrants were released into
    the streets of the USA, unable to get jobs, unable to be traced, and totally able to rape, pillage, and murder whoever they want with much less
    consequences than those of American citizens.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Jeff Thiele on Sunday, September 26, 2021 21:40:16
    So you'd be ok with a Democrat-written immigration bill, if only the Republicans in Congress would stop being obstructionists?

    If the Republicans in congress are obstructionists, then everyone in congress is an obstructionist. All it takes is for one of them to draft a bill, then they can seek support from other members, but as far as I can tell, they are all just avoiding it.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Aaron Thomas on Sunday, September 26, 2021 22:34:46
    On 26 Sep 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...
    Does Tulsi Gabbard know how many Haitians were deported bac Port-au-Prince?
    Mayorkas says as many as 12K out of 17K Haitian migrants have be released into U.S., and that the number could be even higher.
    So considerably less than 100%. That doesn't sound like an "open bord to me.
    70% is a lot. 70% = the majority of the Del Rio migrants were released into the streets of the USA, unable to get jobs, unable to be traced,
    and totally able to rape, pillage, and murder whoever they want with
    much less consequences than those of American citizens.

    70% does not an "open border" make.

    Jeff.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Aaron Thomas on Sunday, September 26, 2021 22:36:49
    On 26 Sep 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...
    So you'd be ok with a Democrat-written immigration bill, if only the Republicans in Congress would stop being obstructionists?
    If the Republicans in congress are obstructionists, then everyone in congress is an obstructionist. All it takes is for one of them to draft
    a bill, then they can seek support from other members, but as far as I
    can tell, they are all just avoiding it.

    Nope. Republicans are obstructing a Democrat-written immigration bill.

    There is no such thing as a Republican-written immigration bill, and Republicans are overwhelmingly anti-immigration because they fear a non-white majority.

    Jeff.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to JEFF THIELE on Monday, September 27, 2021 15:31:00
    Does Tulsi Gabbard know how many Haitians were deported back to Port-au-Prince?

    The border is not "open."

    Haitians must not be as reliable as "sure Democrat voters" as their Central American counterparts.


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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Mike Powell on Monday, September 27, 2021 17:05:41
    On 27 Sep 2021, Mike Powell said the following...
    Does Tulsi Gabbard know how many Haitians were deported back to Port-au-Prince?
    The border is not "open."
    Haitians must not be as reliable as "sure Democrat voters" as their Central American counterparts.

    Not all of the Central American refugees get in, either.

    Jeff.

    "For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." -- H. L. Mencken, who indeed was a racist thereby proving himself right.

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