• Gobsmacked & Flabbergasted

    From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to All on Saturday, October 02, 2021 09:27:09
    Told you so!!
    Donald Trump was NOT colluding with Russia!

    Statement from Russell Brand
    "The world moves so fast. There's almost no time for history. It seems like years ago that we were hearing that Trump was colluding with Russia that he wouldn't have won the election without Russia. That his whole presidency was a kind of Putin plot. Well, there's now serious evidence that it was the Clinton campaign and Hillary Clinton acolytes that were directly involved in the generation of what has proven to be a conspiracy. Untrue. Think about how much media you watched. Me, a person who I would think broadly speaking is from the left, a liberal, certainly not a Trump-supporting Republican with respect to those of you that are. I find myself in awe, gob-smacked, flabbergasted, and startled by these revelations that Russia gate was a democratic conspiracy." Russell Brand

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Gregory Deyss on Saturday, October 02, 2021 11:16:55
    On 02 Oct 2021, Gregory Deyss said the following...
    Told you so!!
    Donald Trump was NOT colluding with Russia!
    https://rotf.lol/hkcb3k3n

    Actually, the absence of server-related back-channels does not exonerate
    Trump. And the sole charge to emerge from Durham's investigation appears to
    be on shaky ground now, after the NY Times uncovered emails revealing that
    the subject of the charge definitely had reason to believe that such communication was taking place, even if it was not.

    In other news, Rudy Giuliani has admitted under oath that his "evidence" of election fraud consisted almost entirely of Facebook posts.

    Jeff.

    "For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." -- H. L. Mencken, who indeed was a racist thereby proving himself right.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to GREGORY DEYSS on Saturday, October 02, 2021 19:29:00
    wouldn't have won the election without Russia. That his whole presidency was a
    kind of Putin plot. Well, there's now serious evidence that it was the Clinton
    campaign and Hillary Clinton acolytes that were directly involved in the generation of what has proven to be a conspiracy. Untrue. Think about how much
    media you watched. Me, a person who I would think broadly speaking is from the
    left, a liberal, certainly not a Trump-supporting Republican with respect to those of you that are. I find myself in awe, gob-smacked, flabbergasted, and startled by these revelations that Russia gate was a democratic conspiracy." Russell Brand

    Let us not forget that, when Tulsi Gabbard made a statement about how we
    needed to get away from establishment politicians "like Hillary Clinton," Clinton's camp almost immediately began floating some conspiracy theory about how Russians had "compromised" someone in our military, crafting it in such a way as to point at Gabbard, and pretty much no one else, as the compromised officer.

    I am sure some gullible folks bought that one, too.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Jeff Thiele on Sunday, October 03, 2021 06:35:34
    Hello Jeff,

    Told you so!!
    Donald Trump was NOT colluding with Russia!

    [..]

    In other news, Rudy Giuliani has admitted under oath that his "evidence" of
    election fraud consisted almost entirely of Facebook posts.

    He and Lin Wood should get together on that and write a book.
    Both pro-Trump attorneys would have a blast.

    "We got played."
    ~ Lin Wood, claiming no planes hit the Twin Towers or the Pentagon

    --Lee

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Jeff Thiele on Sunday, October 03, 2021 11:26:15
    On 02 Oct 2021, Jeff Thiele said the following...

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    On 02 Oct 2021, Gregory Deyss said the following...
    Told you so!!
    Donald Trump was NOT colluding with Russia!
    https://rotf.lol/hkcb3k3n

    Actually, the absence of server-related back-channels does not exonerate Trump. And the sole charge to emerge from Durham's investigation appears to be on shaky ground now, after the NY Times uncovered emails revealing that the subject of the charge definitely had reason to believe that such communication was taking place, even if it was not.

    What are you talking about with being on shaky ground?

    According to Jim Jordan:
    Well, here's what I think. First of all, I think John Durham gets the big picture. I mean, you saw that Sussman indictment. This is, Durham knows that this was the Clinton campaign hiring the Perkins Coie law firm.
    Folks, they're going and putting together information, false information, then getting that to the press and creating this whole narrative that turned out to be completely false, as we all know.

    So the other thing is, this was not just a false statement that Sussman made to Mr. Durham and his investigative team. This was the false statement. The false statement made back in 2016. That Sussman made to the FBI, and not just anybody at the FBI, the chief counsel Jim Baker, and then Baker did what?
    He passed that information on to who? Strzok and Page, the people doing the investigation. So it wasn't the first time Baker did that. He's also got information from David Korn regarding the dossier, that he also passed on to Strzok and Page and McCabe, the people doing the investigation, and now that he's looking into Perkins Coie even more, I think that is a good sign. I'm cautiously optimistic that we're going to actually get to the bottom of this and find out who, in fact, was ultimately responsible.

    The New York Times is in a lot of trouble, for their shenanigans.
    In fact the NYT as well as Mary L. Trump (Donald's niece) have been sued by Donald Trump.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Gregory Deyss on Sunday, October 03, 2021 11:54:35
    On 03 Oct 2021, Gregory Deyss said the following...
    What are you talking about with being on shaky ground?
    According to Jim Jordan:

    Problem #1: Jim Jordan is a hyper-partisan idiot and Trump lackey.

    So the other thing is, this was not just a false statement that Sussman made to Mr. Durham and his investigative team. This was the false

    This was not a false statement made to Durham and his team at all. It was
    made to the FBI.

    This wasn't purjury, either, as it wasn't under oath. It was more like a
    police report that didn't pan out.

    Coie even more, I think that is a good sign. I'm cautiously optimistic that we're going to actually get to the bottom of this and find out who, in fact, was ultimately responsible.

    The reason that Sussman was charged with this ludicrous "crime" is that
    Durham was pressured to produce *something* before the statute of limitations kicked in. That has happened.

    The New York Times is in a lot of trouble, for their shenanigans.
    In fact the NYT as well as Mary L. Trump (Donald's niece) have been sued by Donald Trump.

    Who hasn't been sued by Donald Trump? That's how Trump intimidates people.
    It's not about proving his enemies wrong, it's about depleting their
    resources until they give up.

    Jeff.

    "For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." -- H. L. Mencken, who indeed was a racist thereby proving himself right.

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