Katie Couric has "reported" that she edited out part of an interview with forme Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg, which contained coverage of Ginsberg criticizing anthem kneelers.

Isn't it far passed time for you guys to acknowledge that the media is pushing your buttons? And that Democrats tend to do selfish things for money? Those are two different concepts that are worth thinking about.

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On 13 Oct 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Katie Couric has "reported" that she edited out part of an interview
with forme Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg, which contained coverage of Ginsberg criticizing anthem kneelers.
Isn't it far passed time for you guys to acknowledge that the media is pushing your buttons? And that Democrats tend to do selfish things for money? Those are two different concepts that are worth thinking about.

How is Couric editing out RBG's criticism of kneeling athletes supposed to
push our buttons? It sure sounds like it pushed yours, though.

Jeff.

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Katie Couric has "reported" that she edited out part of an interview with forme Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg, which contained coverage of Ginsberg criticizing anthem kneelers.
Isn't it far passed time for you guys to acknowledge that the media is pushing your buttons? And that Democrats tend to do selfish things for money? Those are two different concepts that are worth thinking about.

How is Couric editing out RBG's criticism of kneeling athletes supposed to push our buttons? It sure sounds like it pushed yours, though.

I am not so sure he was saying Couric was pushing your buttons so much as
the media as a whole, i.e. if RBG had come out in favor of the kneelers,
she'd have left it in there to give you something else to go on about.

IMHO, Couric was washed-up years ago and continues to show it, like with
some of the shade she throws at Diane Sawyer, whose reporting talent
outweighs Couric's by tons. I am shocked that anyone even gives her a
stage any more.


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On 14 Oct 2021, Mike Powell said the following...

How is Couric editing out RBG's criticism of kneeling athletes supposed push our buttons? It sure sounds like it pushed yours, though.

I am not so sure he was saying Couric was pushing your buttons so much as the media as a whole, i.e. if RBG had come out in favor of the kneelers, she'd have left it in there to give you something else to go on about.

I don't think that RBG coming out in favor of the kneelers would have upset
me at all. Then again, knowing that she did criticize them, I'd like to know what aspects of their actions she criticized.

IMHO, Couric was washed-up years ago and continues to show it, like with some of the shade she throws at Diane Sawyer, whose reporting talent outweighs Couric's by tons. I am shocked that anyone even gives her a stage any more.

I know who she is, but I haven't watched anything she's done in years.

Jeff.

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I am not so sure he was saying Couric was pushing your buttons so much as
the media as a whole, i.e. if RBG had come out in favor of the kneelers, she'd have left it in there to give you something else to go on about.

I don't think that RBG coming out in favor of the kneelers would have upset me at all. Then again, knowing that she did criticize them, I'd like to know what aspects of their actions she criticized.

"Something else to go on about," in this case, would be more ammo for
something you probably support, not something to complain about. That is,
if she'd come out in favor of kneelers.

I read Aaron's initial statement as the media as a whole is pushing your buttons by stiring up issues that maybe are not really there. That is
based on reading Aaron's posts here for a long time, and also probably
filtered through my own belief that the "news" media is more about selling advertising and will stir up trouble just to keep eyes on the TV, webpage,
etc. Hence giving a washed-up has-been a stage to air dirty laundry.

IMHO, Couric was washed-up years ago and continues to show it, like with some of the shade she throws at Diane Sawyer, whose reporting talent outweighs Couric's by tons. I am shocked that anyone even gives her a stage any more.

I know who she is, but I haven't watched anything she's done in years.

Me, either. I was not aware she'd even interviewed RBG anytime recent to
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On 15 Oct 2021, Mike Powell said the following...

I don't think that RBG coming out in favor of the kneelers would have up me at all. Then again, knowing that she did criticize them, I'd like to what aspects of their actions she criticized.

"Something else to go on about," in this case, would be more ammo for something you probably support, not something to complain about. That
is, if she'd come out in favor of kneelers.
I read Aaron's initial statement as the media as a whole is pushing your buttons by stiring up issues that maybe are not really there. That is based on reading Aaron's posts here for a long time, and also probably filtered through my own belief that the "news" media is more about
selling advertising and will stir up trouble just to keep eyes on the
TV, webpage, etc. Hence giving a washed-up has-been a stage to air dirty laundry.

Again, I was not "stirred up" by people kneeling during the anthem, nor do I suspect many of their supporters were. The reason it became controversial had much, much more to do with the people who opposed it rather than the people who supported it.

Jeff.

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How is Couric editing out RBG's criticism of kneeling athletes supposed
to push our buttons? It sure sounds like it pushed yours, though.

Couric wants people to kneel for the anthem because anthem-kneeling makes black people feel like they're nothing but victims in an awful country; an awful country that only Democrats could fix. Victimhood is the key ingredient for Democrat election success, and a win for the Dems is a win for the media.

It would be unprofitable for the media's "black people die more than white people" campaign if a Clinton-appointee were to publicly condemn anthem-kneeling.

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On 14 Oct 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

How is Couric editing out RBG's criticism of kneeling athletes suppos to push our buttons? It sure sounds like it pushed yours, though.

Couric wants people to kneel for the anthem because anthem-kneeling
makes black people feel like they're nothing but victims in an awful country; an awful country that only Democrats could fix. Victimhood is
the key ingredient for Democrat election success, and a win for the Dems is a win for the media.

I don't think Couric want people to kneel for the anthem; I think Couric
wants people to feel free to kneel for the anthem if they wish. No one is saying that anyone has to kneel -- that's Aaron putting words in people's mouths again.

It would be unprofitable for the media's "black people die more than
white people" campaign if a Clinton-appointee were to publicly condemn anthem-kneeling.

Not really, no.

Jeff.

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I don't think that RBG coming out in favor of the kneelers would have upset me at all. Then again, knowing that she did criticize them, I'd
like to know what aspects of their actions she criticized.

She said that "not standing for the anthem in an act of protest is dumb and disrespectful," but according to Couric, those words "did not include her strongest condemnations of the act."

RGB was a patriot. It is dumb to blame the whole country for systemic racism, and it is disrespectful to the veterans who died to protect us. Anthem
kneelers aren't helping anyone except for Defund-The-Police-Democrats.

Kneeling for the anthem is like saying this:

"You died to protect our country, but I'm too fat and lazy to even stand for a 20 second anthem, and I'll just blame that on bad cops."

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On 15 Oct 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

I don't think that RBG coming out in favor of the kneelers would have upset me at all. Then again, knowing that she did criticize them, I'd like to know what aspects of their actions she criticized.

RGB was a patriot. It is dumb to blame the whole country for systemic racism, and it is disrespectful to the veterans who died to protect us. Anthem kneelers aren't helping anyone except for Defund-The-Police-Democrats.

Systemic racism is a problem with the country. Otherwise it wouldn't be systemic.

Kneeling for the anthem is like saying this:
"You died to protect our country, but I'm too fat and lazy to even stand for a 20 second anthem, and I'll just blame that on bad cops."

So you're saying that NFL players are fat and lazy? Or just black people?

Jeff.

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I don't think Couric want people to kneel for the anthem; I think Couric wants people to feel free to kneel for the anthem if they wish. No one is saying that anyone has to kneel -- that's Aaron putting words in people's mouths again.

I'm using logic. The Democrats & the media are dependent on black votes. There's no better way to get black votes than by turning blacks into
psuedo victims and then rushing to their aid. RGB was de-victimizing blacks, but the younger/more agenda-focused Katie Couric foiled RGB's defectorism. She had to do what was good for the cause.

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Kneeling for the anthem is like saying this:
"You died to protect our country, but I'm too fat and lazy to even st for a 20 second anthem, and I'll just blame that on bad cops."

So you're saying that NFL players are fat and lazy? Or just black people?

It's "like" saying that. It's also like saying "this country isn't worth standing for."

It's also insensitive to people affected by George Floyd's kneeling-related death.

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On 15 Oct 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

I don't think Couric want people to kneel for the anthem; I think Cou wants people to feel free to kneel for the anthem if they wish. No on saying that anyone has to kneel -- that's Aaron putting words in peop mouths again.

I'm using logic. The Democrats & the media are dependent on black votes. There's no better way to get black votes than by turning blacks into psuedo victims and then rushing to their aid. RGB was de-victimizing blacks, but the younger/more agenda-focused Katie Couric foiled RGB's defectorism. She had to do what was good for the cause.

That's not logic; that's misinformed conspiracy thinking with a touch of racism.

Jeff.

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On 16 Oct 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Kneeling for the anthem is like saying this:
"You died to protect our country, but I'm too fat and lazy to ev for a 20 second anthem, and I'll just blame that on bad cops."

So you're saying that NFL players are fat and lazy? Or just black peo

It's "like" saying that. It's also like saying "this country isn't worth standing for."

So it's "like" saying that, in that kneeling is a physical action, not spoken words, but the meaning is the same? Or is it "like" saying that, but actually saying something else entirely? In what way are you insinuating that kneeling is "like" saying, "I'm fat and lazy?"

And you do know that Jehovah's Witnesses and the Amish do not show respect to the flag, right? They don't show disrespect, either, unless you count not showing respect as showing disrespect. Their religion forbids them from worshipping other gods.

It's also insensitive to people affected by George Floyd's kneeling-related death.

BS.

Jeff.

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Hello Aaron,

I don't think that RBG coming out in favor of the kneelers would have
upset me at all. Then again, knowing that she did criticize them, I'd
like to know what aspects of their actions she criticized.

She said that "not standing for the anthem in an act of protest is dumb and
disrespectful," but according to Couric, those words "did not include her strongest condemnations of the act."

What kind of alternate reality do you live in? Kneeling for the
anthem is the ultimate sign of showing respect and humility for the
flag.

RGB was a patriot.

Absolutely.

It is dumb to blame the whole country for systemic racism,

Those who participate in systemic racism are guilty as sin.
Those who give tacit approval by their continued silence on
the matter are also just as guilty.

and it is disrespectful to the veterans who died to protect us.

Which is why we should all kneel for the anthem whenever it
is played or recited. After all, it is they who have fought and
died, showing us all what the flag represents.

Anthem kneelers aren't helping anyone except for Defund-The-Police-Democrats.

How on earth do you get that? Kneeling for the anthem is not
disrespectful. Sitting, turning our backs would be. But nobody
has seen NFL players do that. Not on national television. And
not off television. So please. Tell us all what gives you the
bizarre idea that NFL players (and others) who kneel for the
anthem are all "Defund-The-Police-Democrats".

Kneeling for the anthem is like saying this:

"You died to protect our country, but I'm too fat and lazy to even stand for
a 20 second anthem, and I'll just blame that on bad cops."

Isn't kneeling considered to be the ultimate show of respect?
Think about it. We kneel before someone to beg for forgiveness.
We kneel to ask for someone's hand in marriage. We kneel before
our religious leader, or a cross, to show humility when taking
part in a sacred ceremony.

You see, kneeling during the national anthem actually symbolizes
the exact opposite of what you have been taught by conservatives
to believe. Just think what liberals would have said if all those
NFL players had been so defiant as to resurrect the Tommie John
protest by holding their fist in the air as the anthem was being
played. That would have been a real hoot.

But NFL players are not fools, but true American patriots.
Including Tom Brady, who no longer plays for the New England
Patriots. They are asking if we as a nation can do better at
living up to the rights and freedoms that our predecessors
fought and died for, and that the flag represents.

Kneeling for America,
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blacks, but the younger/more agenda-focused Katie Couric foiled RGB's defectorism. She had to do what was good for the cause.

That's not logic; that's misinformed conspiracy thinking with a touch of racism.

It was one of your gals who called some of your comrades "dumb & disrespectful." Calling me racist doesn't make any sense when it's your party and your media who are harvesting energy from black Americans.

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So it's "like" saying that, in that kneeling is a physical action, not spoken words, but the meaning is the same? Or is it "like" saying that, but actually saying something else entirely? In what way are you insinuating that kneeling is "like" saying, "I'm fat and lazy?"

"I'm oblivious to moral responsibilities; that anthem song sucks; what does this POS country do for me? Nothin! What am I gonna do for it? Nothin!"

And you do know that Jehovah's Witnesses and the Amish do not show
respect to the flag, right? They don't show disrespect, either, unless

At least they aren't disrespecting the flag out of pure selfishness.

It's also insensitive to people affected by George Floyd's kneeling-related death.

BS.

They're kneeling on the USA.

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What kind of alternate reality do you live in? Kneeling for the
anthem is the ultimate sign of showing respect and humility for the
flag.

What if you kneel for the black national anthem?

Those who participate in systemic racism are guilty as sin.
Those who give tacit approval by their continued silence on
the matter are also just as guilty.

Those who hold the flag hostage without making any demands are just as guilty.

Which is why we should all kneel for the anthem whenever it
is played or recited. After all, it is they who have fought and
died, showing us all what the flag represents.

When did that happen? Every baseball game I've been to, everyone always stands for the anthem. The people who don't stand get mad-dogged.

not off television. So please. Tell us all what gives you the
bizarre idea that NFL players (and others) who kneel for the
anthem are all "Defund-The-Police-Democrats".

It became a tradition in 2016. Does that year ring a bell? With Trump as our president, the media effectively made it unacceptable to be a proud American.

They're kneeling "because they're angry with the police," but in reality, it's because the media was angry with Trump.

We kneel to ask for someone's hand in marriage. We kneel before
our religious leader, or a cross, to show humility when taking
part in a sacred ceremony.

Not everybody kneels for those purposes. Kneeling for the national anthem in the USA has never been popular until 2016.

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Hello Aaron,

I don't think Couric want people to kneel for the anthem; I think

Couric

wants people to feel free to kneel for the anthem if they wish. No

one is

saying that anyone has to kneel -- that's Aaron putting words in

people's

mouths again.

I'm using logic.

You're shooting your mouth off, making no sense whatsoever.

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On 16 Oct 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

So it's "like" saying that, in that kneeling is a physical action, no spoken words, but the meaning is the same? Or is it "like" saying tha but actually saying something else entirely? In what way are you insinuating that kneeling is "like" saying, "I'm fat and lazy?"

"I'm oblivious to moral responsibilities; that anthem song sucks; what does this POS country do for me? Nothin! What am I gonna do for it? Nothin!"

Standing for the anthem is a moral responsibility? You are putting words in their mouths, attributing the kneeleing to just about everything except what they have not been shy in saying it's about: police brutality toward unarmed black people.

And you do know that Jehovah's Witnesses and the Amish do not show respect to the flag, right? They don't show disrespect, either, unles

At least they aren't disrespecting the flag out of pure selfishness.

Again, you're putting words in their mouth. Their stated reson for kneeling,
to protest pulice brutality toward unarmed black people, is not selfish at
all.

It's also insensitive to people affected by George Floyd's kneeling-related death.

BS.

They're kneeling on the USA.

No, they're not. They're kneeling on either grass or astroturf. They've
stated why they kneel; you refuse to listen and instead put words in their mouths so that you can then criticize those words. Why is that? Do you not
want to admit that this country has a problem with police brutality towards unarmed black people?

Jeff.

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On 16 Oct 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

What kind of alternate reality do you live in? Kneeling for the anthem is the ultimate sign of showing respect and humility for the flag.

What if you kneel for the black national anthem?

And what, pray tell, is the "black national anthem?"

Those who participate in systemic racism are guilty as sin.
Those who give tacit approval by their continued silence on
the matter are also just as guilty.

Those who hold the flag hostage without making any demands are just as guilty.

No one is holding the flag hostage. Those who kneel do have changes that they wish to see made, and have not been secretive about them at all.

Which is why we should all kneel for the anthem whenever it
is played or recited. After all, it is they who have fought and
died, showing us all what the flag represents.

When did that happen? Every baseball game I've been to, everyone always stands for the anthem. The people who don't stand get mad-dogged.

Jehovah's Witnesses, the Amish, and the governor of Texas don't stand for the anthem.

not off television. So please. Tell us all what gives you the
bizarre idea that NFL players (and others) who kneel for the
anthem are all "Defund-The-Police-Democrats".

It became a tradition in 2016. Does that year ring a bell? With Trump as our president, the media effectively made it unacceptable to be a proud American.

The media did no such thing. The people who knelt at sporting events were literally surrounded by thousands of people willingly participating in the flag-worship ritual. The media never criticized people for standing, but
Fox News was very adamant about criticizing those who did not stand. In no
way was standing for the anthem deemed "unacceptable" by the media.

They're kneeling "because they're angry with the police," but in
reality, it's because the media was angry with Trump.

Nonsense. The media didn't tell them to kneel.

We kneel to ask for someone's hand in marriage. We kneel before
our religious leader, or a cross, to show humility when taking
part in a sacred ceremony.

Not everybody kneels for those purposes. Kneeling for the national
anthem in the USA has never been popular until 2016.

And yet, kneeling is still a gesture of respect. Gestures that are disrespectful include shooting the bird and mooning. No one was doing that (that I know of, but there are some crazy sports fans out there).

Jeff.

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I'm using logic.

You're shooting your mouth off, making no sense whatsoever.

I'm learning from the best!

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Standing for the anthem is a moral responsibility? You are putting words in their mouths, attributing the kneeleing to just about everything
except what they have not been shy in saying it's about: police
brutality toward unarmed black people.

By me saying that "it's a moral responsibility to stand for the anthem," I'm not putting words in anyone's mouth, I'm just telling like it is. Only douchebags blame all for the actions of a few.

The only thing the NBA has to gain by kneeling, is they'll get children to
hate police, which is one of the most irresponsible things a role model can
do. Plus, it helps keep the adults voting Democrat, because Democrats are the official sponsors of Defund The Police.

Did you think that maybe Lebron's a conservative?

And you do know that Jehovah's Witnesses and the Amish do not sh respect to the flag, right? They don't show disrespect, either,

At least they aren't disrespecting the flag out of pure selfishness.

Again, you're putting words in their mouth. Their stated reson for kneeling, to protest pulice brutality toward unarmed black people, is
not selfish at all.

Neither of us could speak for the Amish & I'm assuming that neither of us
could speak for the Jehovahs. And I couldn't disagree with you more about
"it's not selfish at all." It's selfish. It's like they want to keep plastic out of the ocean, but only the oceans that border Africa because those are the black oceans.

Police brutality happens to other colors too. Focusing on black occurances is a media trick that stirs black emotions, thereby stirring black votes.

Flooding affects people of all colors. Would it be "not selfish" for black celebrities to advocate for "flood assistance for black flood victims?"

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What if you kneel for the black national anthem?

And what, pray tell, is the "black national anthem?"

"Lift Every Voice & Sing." You have to leave the house to find these things
out ;) I wouldn't kneel for it, but I'd sit down because I'm anti-segregation.

Those who hold the flag hostage without making any demands are just a guilty.

No one is holding the flag hostage. Those who kneel do have changes that they wish to see made, and have not been secretive about them at all.

Pretty secretive! You & me were both agreeing that it was about "police brutality against blacks," but others are saying "inequality for blacks." (2 different things.) I guess the bottom line is that they're kneeling for black people, and black people only, and that's selfish.

When did that happen? Every baseball game I've been to, everyone alwa stands for the anthem. The people who don't stand get mad-dogged.

Jehovah's Witnesses, the Amish, and the governor of Texas don't stand
for the anthem.

Amish people don't go to baseball games. Jehovahs will go to them, and they will get mad-dogged if they don't stand. The governor of Texas is awesome and here you are dissing the disabled but standing up for anthem kneelers.

Nonsense. The media didn't tell them to kneel.

The media, Democrats, celebrities, China, George Soros, unions, child molesters, they're all on the same team: Democrat.

And yet, kneeling is still a gesture of respect. Gestures that are

If you're from England maybe.

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On 18 Oct 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Standing for the anthem is a moral responsibility? You are putting wo in their mouths, attributing the kneeleing to just about everything except what they have not been shy in saying it's about: police brutality toward unarmed black people.

By me saying that "it's a moral responsibility to stand for the anthem," I'm not putting words in anyone's mouth, I'm just telling like it is.
Only douchebags blame all for the actions of a few.

I was referring to all of the other things that you said kneeling was "like."

The only thing the NBA has to gain by kneeling, is they'll get children
to hate police, which is one of the most irresponsible things a role
model can do. Plus, it helps keep the adults voting Democrat, because Democrats are the official sponsors of Defund The Police.

It's not the Democrats who are kneeling; it's the people directly affected by police brutality toward unarmed black people, and those who choose to kneel
in solidarity with them. You know what "Defund the Police" really referred
to, and are choosing to ignore that to score cheap points. Nice try, but no.

Also, the kneeling started in the NFL, not the NBA.

Did you think that maybe Lebron's a conservative?

Honestly, I don't know what his political affiliation is.

And you do know that Jehovah's Witnesses and the Amish do n respect to the flag, right? They don't show disrespect, eit

At least they aren't disrespecting the flag out of pure selfishn

Again, you're putting words in their mouth. Their stated reson for kneeling, to protest pulice brutality toward unarmed black people, is not selfish at all.

Neither of us could speak for the Amish & I'm assuming that neither of us could speak for the Jehovahs. And I couldn't disagree with you more about "it's not selfish at all." It's selfish. It's like they want to keep plastic out of the ocean, but only the oceans that border Africa because those are the black oceans.

It's not selfish to represent one's community.

The Amish and the Jehovah's Witnesses can speak for themselves, and have.
It's no secret why they don't participate in any flag-worshipping rituals.

Police brutality happens to other colors too. Focusing on black
occurances is a media trick that stirs black emotions, thereby stirring black votes.

Then people of all colors should be kneeling.

Or is it that this form of police brutality has historically targeted black people disproportionately since slavery, through Jim Crow, and continues to
do so?

Flooding affects people of all colors. Would it be "not selfish" for
black celebrities to advocate for "flood assistance for black flood victims?"

If black flood victims were disproportionately denied assistance, then sure.

Jeff.

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On 18 Oct 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

What if you kneel for the black national anthem?

And what, pray tell, is the "black national anthem?"

"Lift Every Voice & Sing." You have to leave the house to find these things out ;) I wouldn't kneel for it, but I'd sit down because I'm anti-segregation.

And this is the anthem of what nation?

Those who hold the flag hostage without making any demands are j guilty.

No one is holding the flag hostage. Those who kneel do have changes t they wish to see made, and have not been secretive about them at all.

Pretty secretive! You & me were both agreeing that it was about "police brutality against blacks," but others are saying "inequality for
blacks." (2 different things.) I guess the bottom line is that they're kneeling for black people, and black people only, and that's selfish.

Representing one's community and speaking out for them when you have a
platform and they don't is not selfish. Police brutality disproportionately targeting unarmed blacks *is* inequality for blacks. They are being treated differently than other people and want to call attention to that.

When did that happen? Every baseball game I've been to, everyone stands for the anthem. The people who don't stand get mad-dogged

Jehovah's Witnesses, the Amish, and the governor of Texas don't stand for the anthem.

Amish people don't go to baseball games. Jehovahs will go to them, and they will get mad-dogged if they don't stand. The governor of Texas is awesome and here you are dissing the disabled but standing up for anthem kneelers.

Nope, I'm just saying that the Texas governor doesn't get "mad-dogged" when
he doesn't stand for the national anthem, nor do people with religious
reasons for not worshipping a piece of cloth.

And obviously the athletes who kneel aren't getting "mad-dogged," either.
It's probably not wise to "mad-dog" an armored professional football team.

Jeff.

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Hello Jeff,

Also, the kneeling started in the NFL, not the NBA.

A former NFL quarterback started the movement, then it went
viral, starting in the NFL.

Did you think that maybe Lebron's a conservative?

Honestly, I don't know what his political affiliation is.

Shaquille O'Neal is a Republican. I don't know if he is a Trumper,
but he is a Republican. And he loves pizza. Lots of pizza ...

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Hello Aaron,

I'm using logic.

You're shooting your mouth off, making no sense whatsoever.

I'm learning from the best!

That takes time. And patience. Remember, Louisiana has the best
politicians that money can buy. Even though some states do try to
take that title away from us ...

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I don't think Couric want people to kneel for the anthem; I think Couric wants people to feel free to kneel for the anthem if they wish. No one is saying that anyone has to kneel -- that's Aaron putting words in people's mouths again.

But she apparently doesn't believe that a supposedly liberal judge should
have a public forum to speak her mind against it... she is only free to
speak her mind as long as is "on narrative."


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On 19 Oct 2021, Mike Powell said the following...

I don't think Couric want people to kneel for the anthem; I think Couric wants people to feel free to kneel for the anthem if they wish. No one i saying that anyone has to kneel -- that's Aaron putting words in people' mouths again.

But she apparently doesn't believe that a supposedly liberal judge should have a public forum to speak her mind against it... she is only free to speak her mind as long as is "on narrative."

That was her journalistic decision, for whatever reason.

Jeff.

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But she apparently doesn't believe that a supposedly liberal judge sh have a public forum to speak her mind against it... she is only free speak her mind as long as is "on narrative."

That was her journalistic decision, for whatever reason.

It wasn't for "whatever reason," it was for a very specific reason.

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On 19 Oct 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

But she apparently doesn't believe that a supposedly liberal jud have a public forum to speak her mind against it... she is only speak her mind as long as is "on narrative."

That was her journalistic decision, for whatever reason.

It wasn't for "whatever reason," it was for a very specific reason.

If you'd interviewed RBG, you'd have had editorial oversight of the result.

Jeff.

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But she apparently doesn't believe that a supposedly liberal judge s
have a public forum to speak her mind against it... she is only free
speak her mind as long as is "on narrative."

That was her journalistic decision, for whatever reason.

It wasn't for "whatever reason," it was for a very specific reason.

Indeed. They can't have their former favorite justice come out and appear
to endorse something that is not a part of their narrative.


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It wasn't for "whatever reason," it was for a very specific reason.

If you'd interviewed RBG, you'd have had editorial oversight of the result.

I wouldn't cheat America by excluding stuff that will untrain my monkeys.

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On 21 Oct 2021, Aaron Thomas said the following...

It wasn't for "whatever reason," it was for a very specific reas

If you'd interviewed RBG, you'd have had editorial oversight of the result.

I wouldn't cheat America by excluding stuff that will untrain my monkeys.

Ah, but you do that every day, right here.

Jeff.

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