Has anyone done the needful to be able to send email to gmail.com from their BBS? If so, what did you do?

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Re: Sending email
By: Phigan to All on Fri Jun 09 2023 02:13 pm

Has anyone done the needful to be able to send email to gmail.com from their BBS? If so, what did you do?

I send to gmail from my BBS. An appropriate SPF TXT DNS record helps. https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/dns/dns-records/dns-spf-record/
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Re: Sending email
By: Phigan to All on Fri Jun 09 2023 02:13 pm

Has anyone done the needful to be able to send email to gmail.com from their BBS? If so, what did you do?

Simply sending the email to user@gmail.com.. I don't recall having to do anything special beyond that.

Nightfox

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Re: Sending email
By: Digital Man to Phigan on Fri Jun 09 2023 05:13 pm

I send to gmail from my BBS. An appropriate SPF TXT DNS record helps. https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/dns/dns-records/dns-spf-record/

Nice. Looks like my DNS provider requires sending an email for that type of record, so now just waiting after I've done so.

Not sure about other people, but spfwizard.net would be exactly what I need if I were hosting my own DNS.

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Re: Sending email
By: Phigan to All on Fri Jun 09 2023 14:13:25

Has anyone done the needful to be able to send email to gmail.com from their BBS? If so, what did you do?

If you're wanting to send email *TO* a person at a gmail address, you should at least make sure you can receive mail on port 25 to your BBS, residential ISPs tend to block this. You should also configure a SPF record for your domain, which isn't strictly required. If you're new to running a mail server, then you will likely land in spam on the recipient.

If you want to relay mail in/out, would ask DigitalMan to setup a mail relay to get mail to you, you'll need to make sure you have an open port. And you can relay outbound via VERT this way.

If you just want to overcome delivery, and are receiving mail on port 25 okay, then you can use VERT or a relay service such as SendGrid (free tier works pretty well for BBS use). Which will help getting you into inboxes instead of in spam on gmail/yahoo/hotmail etc.

If you want to relay through gmail, that won't really work for you.


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Re: Sending email
By: Phigan to Digital Man on Sat Jun 10 2023 16:47:12

Re: Sending email
By: Digital Man to Phigan on Fri Jun 09 2023 05:13 pm

I send to gmail from my BBS. An appropriate SPF TXT DNS record helps.
https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/dns/dns-records/dns-spf-record/

Nice. Looks like my DNS provider requires sending an email for that type of record, so now just waiting after I've done so.

Who are you using for DNS? I've got almost all my domains on domains.google.com and use their dns for a lot of them. I also have DNS for some domains on digitalocean.com and others on cloudflare.com All of which have self service Web UIs and the latter two have API interfaces beyond that.


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Re: Sending email
By: Tracker1 to Phigan on Fri Jun 16 2023 12:56 pm

If you're wanting to send email *TO*
person at a gmail address, you shoul
at least make sure you can receive m
on port 25 to your BBS, residential

Mail itself works fine. My hostname is
off a free DNS domain, though, and I
can't yet set up an SPF record. When I
send email to a gmail address, I get a
bounce back, but I can't read the whole
message inside the Synchronet message
reader, so I'm not sure what it's
complaining about. I'm assuming SPF.
There's probably a log or something the
message is going in to, but I just
haven't gone searching yet :).
My reverse matches my forward now,
even.

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Re: Sending email
By: Tracker1 to Phigan on Fri Jun 16 2023 12:58 pm

Who are you using for DNS? I've got

For my own domains, I run bind myself
and host my own DNS. My BBS, though, is
a hostname off a free/public domain, so
I have to use their service/web
interface.

Something I saw somewhere seemed to
imply that domains.google.com was
getting dropped. Have you heard
anything like that?

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Re: Sending email
By: Phigan to Tracker1 on Sat Jun 17 2023 11:36 am

Re: Sending email
By: Tracker1 to Phigan on Fri Jun 16 2023 12:58 pm

Something I saw somewhere seemed to imply that domains.google.com was getting dropped. Have you heard anything like that?

Damn I hope not. :-(

I have 3 websites through them.So easy.

Mickey

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Re: Sending email
By: Phigan to Tracker1 on Sat Jun 17 2023 11:33:02

Mail itself works fine. My hostname is off a free DNS domain, though, and I can't yet set up an SPF record. When I send email to a gmail address, I get a bounce back, but I can't read the whole message inside the Synchronet message reader, so I'm not sure what it's complaining about. I'm assuming SPF. There's probably a log or something the message is going in to, but I just haven't gone searching yet :).
My reverse matches my forward now, even.

Oh, noticed you're using .bbs.io (I own this tld, eventually want to switch to my own dyndns for it)... I *think* you should be able to add a txt record and mx record for YOURNAME.bbs.io in the freedns interface. Will "approve" your domain and see if that makes a difference, I usually just leave them all as-is.

Aside, if you're up for experimenting, email me tracker1 at gmail dot com, and I can probably set you up with YOURNAME.bbs.army if you're interrested, I was going to use that (and a handful of other domains) to setup the dyndns service before switching bbs.io over and sending notification emails out.


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Re: Sending email
By: Phigan to Tracker1 on Sat Jun 17 2023 11:36:44

Who are you using for DNS? I've got

For my own domains, I run bind myself and host my own DNS. My BBS, though, is a hostname off a free/public domain, so I have to use their service/web interface.

Gotcha. Yeah, I'm disappointed as I'm usuaing Google for most of my domains, not confident in switching to SquareSpace, so will be migrating all that I can to Cloudflare, and the one's I can't, will have to look into what options might be available for the rest.

If you have your own domain you want to use for the BBS, I've written a few scripts that can update DigitalOcean's DNS entries that was pretty easy (Node and Deno). I setup http(s)://(ipv4|ipv6).bbs.land/ in order to give you your IP, so such a script can send updates for bot A and AAAA records.

Aside, planning on setting up the following domains for dyndns soon(ish).

- bark.town
- bbs.army
- bbs.io (after others are setup, with conversion invite/notice)
- bbs.rocks
- autobothq.com
- decepticonhq.com

Plan on using bbs.land as the main services website and login.


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Re: Sending email
By: Mickey to Phigan on Sat Jun 17 2023 18:38:03

Something I saw somewhere seemed to imply that domains.google.com was
getting dropped. Have you heard anything like that?

Damn I hope not. :-(

I have 3 websites through them.So easy.

Yeah, it's getting sold off to squarespace iirc. Should still be relatively easy, and not sure if the UX will stay closer to googles or if accounts will be migrated. I'm planning to migrate what I can.

Should still continue to work, just will get more expensive after the first year after the move.


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Re: Sending email
By: Phigan to Tracker1 on Sat Jun 17 2023 11:33:02

Mail itself works fine. My hostname is off a free DNS domain, though, and I can't yet set up an SPF record. When I send email to a gmail address, I

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Approved the dns and mx entry... you should be able to add a TXT entry for an SPF record. One thing to note, is you need to be able to receive mail on port 25, many ISPs do block this.


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On 21 Jun 2023, Tracker1 said the following...

- bark.town
- bbs.army
- bbs.io (after others are setup, with conversion invite/notice)
- bbs.rocks
- autobothq.com
- decepticonhq.com

Plan on using bbs.land as the main services website and login.

i was going to try and get qmodem.zip as a laugh, but maybe you should go for it instead.

or for DM: syncterm.zip to download syncterm.zip ;)

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