Hey Nick!

�����, ��� ��, 㬭�, ��� �ࠪ��.

Same as before except with CHRS kludge set to "CP866 2".

Life is good,
Maurice

-o -o -o o- -o o- -o -o -o o- -o o- o- o- o- o-
(\ (\ (\ /) (\ /) (\ (\ (\ /) (\ /) /) /) /) /)
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ... Fidonet 4K - Sweet Sixteen Penguins of the Apocalypse.
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Hey Maurice!

On Fri, Jan 31 2025 18:50:25 -0600, you wrote ..

▒╗╚Л╜К╘, ╙═╙ ║К╙, Ц╛╜К╘, ╙═╙ БЮ═╙Б╝Ю.

Same as before except with CHRS kludge set to "CP866 2".

This didn't work very well, either.

As I mentioned in a previous message, this client doesn't know anything about FTN kludges (it is an NNTP client). I'm almost certain it read the "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8R" kludge that you sent along with this message (even though you had a CP866 Fidonet FTN kludge).

I wonder if the CP866 to KOI8R translation didn't work?

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Nick!

I wonder if the CP866 to KOI8R translation didn't work?

Here is a KOI8R output of same without changing the CHRS kludge.

�������, ��� ���, �����, ��� �������.

Life is good,
Maurice

-o -o o- -o -o o- -o o- o- -o o- -o -o o- -o o-
(\ (\ /) (\ (\ /) (\ /) /) (\ /) (\ (\ /) (\ /)
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Hey Maurice!

On Fri, Jan 31 2025 19:32:37 -0600, you wrote ..

Here is a KOI8R output of same without changing the CHRS kludge.

That didn't work, either. It seems iconv most likely doesn't know what to do with it, because it's showing here as UTF-8. :(

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Nick!

It seems iconv most likely doesn't know what to do with it,
because it's showing here as UTF-8.

Strange. As is 'file' shows it as 'ISO-8859 text' which I know is wrong. Forcing it using 'iconv -f koi8-r' shows it as 'Unicode text, UTF-8 text' and the line in question becomes; Сильный, как бык, умный, как трактор. Definetly more evidence in favour of setting all output to utf-8 given all the 8-bit character confusion and corruption. I believe I said that at the start of this particular thread.

Life is good,
Maurice

-o -o o- o-
(\ (\ /) /)
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
... Seo nydþearf feala læreð.
Necessity teaches many things.
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Hey Maurice!

On Fri, Jan 31 2025 22:53:33 -0600, you wrote ..

Strange. As is 'file' shows it as 'ISO-8859 text' which I know is
wrong. Forcing it using 'iconv -f koi8-r' shows it as 'Unicode text,
UTF-8 text' and the line in question becomes; Сильный, как бык, умный,
как трактор. Definetly more evidence in favour of setting all output
to utf-8 given all the 8-bit character confusion and corruption. I
believe I said that at the start of this particular thread.

You did indeed say that at the start of the thread, and I tend to agree. :)

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Nick!

I tend to agree.

As the Highlander once said, there can be only one, and in this case it is utf-8.

Life is good,
Maurice

o- o- o- -o
/) /) /) (\
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
... Hwæt bið betst and wyrst? Ic ðe secge, mannes word.
What is the best and the worst thing? I tell you, man's word.
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Hey Maurice!

On Sat, Feb 01 2025 00:14:37 -0600, you wrote ..

As the Highlander once said, there can be only one, and in this case
it is utf-8.

Wow. Now that reference was a blast from the past. It's been awhile since I've heard that one, and remember watching that show quite a bit as a kid. ;)

By the way, if you hadn't noticed in my last couple of messages, it looks like nano does recognize " > " and will re-wrap it properly. I kind of like the small indention, as it makes it a bit easier on the eyes.

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Nick!

I kind of like the small indention, as it makes it a bit easier on
the eyes.

Done. Either way works for me. I still have yet to commit to any of the quoting scheme so now is a good time for change.

Life is good,
Maurice

-o -o o- o-
(\ (\ /) /)
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
... Ne do ðu nauðer: ne ðe sylfne ne here, ne ðe sylfne ne leah.
Don't do either of these things: praise yourself or criticise yourself.
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Hey Maurice!

On Sat, Feb 01 2025 13:06:33 -0600, you wrote ..

I kind of like the small indention, as it makes it a bit easier on
the eyes.

Done. Either way works for me. I still have yet to commit to any of
the quoting scheme so now is a good time for change.

No real need to commit to anything. Change it again when you're bored. :)

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Nick!

Change it again when you're bored.

Okay.

Change it again when you're bored.

Not really bored ... yet ... but what the heck. At my age, and current circumstances, it doesn't take much to create some excightment for myself.

Hm. Now what?

Life is good,
Maurice

-o o- o- o-
(\ /) /) /)
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
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Loyalty belongs in a warrior, wisdom in a man.
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Hej Maurice!

Hm. Now what?

<Esc>:r /proc/version
Linux version 6.12.11 (root@offgrid) (gcc (GCC) 14.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.43.1) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Feb 1 14:25:37 UTC 2025

<Esc>:r !/lib/libc.so.6
GNU C Library (GNU libc) stable release version 2.41.
Copyright (C) 2025 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.
There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
Compiled by GNU CC version 14.2.0.
libc ABIs: UNIQUE IFUNC ABSOLUTE
Minimum supported kernel: 4.19.0
For bug reporting instructions, please see: <https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/bugs.html>.

Het leven is goed,
Maurice

o- o- -o o-
/) /) (\ /)
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
... Terug naar de basis.
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Hey Maurice!

On Sat, Feb 01 2025 16:50:42 -0600, you wrote ..

Change it again when you're bored.

Okay.

I suppose that's why the space before the quote character isn't 'normal'. When you second-level quote it now you have the above result, instead of this:

Change it again when you're bored.

Not really bored ... yet ... but what the heck. At my age, and
current circumstances, it doesn't take much to create some excightment
for myself.

Yeah, you gotta do what you gotta do to keep yourself interested in these hobbies. In my case, when development has slowed, and meaningful conversation has slowed.. you have to go out of your way to try to talk about something somewhat interesting. Honestly, quote characters aren't all that interesting, but desparate times require desparate measures, you know?

Hm. Now what?

We could always keep attempting to break iconv..? ;)

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Maurice!

On Sat, Feb 01 2025 18:35:47 -0600, you wrote ..

<Esc>:r /proc/version
Linux version 6.12.11 (root@offgrid) (gcc (GCC) 14.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.43.1) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Feb 1 14:25:37 UTC 2025

Looks like you jumped a step or two ahead of me. Give it a day or two and it'll make it to my distro, so I can catch up.

$ cat /proc/version
Linux version 6.12.10-arch1-1 (linux@archlinux) (gcc (GCC) 14.2.1 20240910, GNU ld (GNU Binutils) 2.43.1) #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat, 18 Jan 2025 02:26:57 +0000
$ /lib/libc.so.6
GNU C Library (GNU libc) stable release version 2.40.
Copyright (C) 2024 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.
There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
Compiled by GNU CC version 14.2.1 20240910.
libc ABIs: UNIQUE IFUNC ABSOLUTE
Minimum supported kernel: 4.4.0
For bug reporting instructions, please see: <https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/glibc/-/issues>.

Regards,
Nick

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Hej Nick!

Give it a day or two and it'll make it to my distro, so I can catch
up.

Take your time. At the moment I have four machines I am trying to bring up to speed.

We could always keep attempting to break iconv..? ;)

Heh, heh. For sure that idea appeals to me.

Het leven is goed,
Maurice

o- -o o- -o
/) (\ /) (\
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
... Terug naar de basis.
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