• read the docs first!

    From pweck@23:1/1 to All on Sunday, September 27, 2026 22:07:56
    read the documentation for your bbs software from start to finish before customizing. read that sentence again

    most setup problems come from missing a single step in the manual

    a slow first read saves a lot of backtracking

    dont be the sysop that gets told/asked "the answr is in the docs"

    pweck
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  • From Shurato@23:1/104 to pweck on Monday, September 28, 2026 03:59:49

    read the documentation for your bbs software from start to finish before cus zing. read that sentence again

    EleBBS doesn't come with documentation... You have to use the RA docs and
    hope for the best!

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  • From pweck@23:1/1 to Shurato on Monday, September 28, 2026 07:44:40
    read the documentation for your bbs software from start to finish befor zing. read that sentence again

    EleBBS doesn't come with documentation... You have to use the RA docs
    and hope for the best!

    there might be an opportunity to write a doc...

    pweck
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  • From Nigel Reed@23:250/12 to pweck on Monday, September 28, 2026 18:26:07
    Re: read the docs first!
    By: pweck to All on Sun Sep 27 2026 22:07:56

    read the documentation for your bbs software from start to finish before customizing. read that sentence again

    First, you lose me when you tell me to do something again. I'm not stupid, I understand what you say the first time. I find it very condescending. Same when someone is talking to me and says "Listen...".

    Second, Synchronet is highly customizable. There's a lot you do with it. There's hundreds of wiki pages on everything from installation, advanced installation like adding Letsencrypt certs, mqtt, login pages, user levels, menus, doors, etc etc. You're not going to sit down and read every bit of documentation. It's impossible, you'd never remember it and I expect most new people won't understand it.

    With Synchronet the easiest thing to do it determine what you want to do, then go figure out how to do it. You want new menus? There's a section for that. Want to add email verification? Section for that. Want to fine tune bot resistance, yup, there's a section for that too.

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  • From pweck@23:1/1 to Nigel Reed on Monday, September 28, 2026 19:13:22
    read the documentation for your bbs software from start to finish befor customizing. read that sentence again

    First, you lose me when you tell me to do something again. I'm not
    stupid, I understand what you say the first time. I find it very condescending. Same when someone is talking to me and says "Listen...".
    it wasnt meant as a slight on you or anyone, but how many just blur over so much of anything anymore. doom scrolling for example, what is the point?
    in refernce to the IKEA couch, i know from my experience with IKEA, there's always something I miss, and lay all those parts and screws out!
    We are always in a rush to "get it done" all at the sake of correctness.
    NR> Second,
    Synchronet is highly customizable. There's a lot you do with it. NR> There's hundreds of wiki pages on everything from installation, advanced NR> installation like adding Letsencrypt certs, mqtt, login pages, user NR> levels, menus, doors, etc etc. You're not going to sit down and read NR> every bit of documentation. It's impossible, you'd never remember it and NR> I expect most new people won't understand it. NR>
    With Synchronet the easiest thing to do it determine what you want to
    do, then go figure out how to do it. You want new menus? There's a
    section for that. Want to add email verification? Section for that. Want to fine tune bot resistance, yup, there's a section for that too.

    for me, there's too much documentation for Sychronet - an overwhelming amount! maybe thats why i dont like it - give me something basic

    Building a BBS isn't like putting together an IKEA couch. There are many ways to configure a board and what works for one doesn't always work for another.
    i agree, and some dont even try to make it work for themselves? there are so many generic mystic boards that someone popped up one night with a thought for any personality. ive visited a whole lot of mystic boards just to be disappointed

    pweck
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  • From Bucko@23:150/11 to pweck on Monday, September 28, 2026 20:22:01
    On 27 Sep 2026, pweck said the following...

    read the documentation for your bbs software from start to finish before customizing. read that sentence again

    most setup problems come from missing a single step in the manual

    a slow first read saves a lot of backtracking

    dont be the sysop that gets told/asked "the answr is in the docs"

    pweck
    sysopnet 23:1/1

    Great post!! I can tell you from being the 1st line of support of Image BBS for the C64, I get asked questions like why doesn't my modem (TCPSER) set up on my new BBS? It's right in the docs! Read them cover to cover.. Over the past 8.5 years since I got back into BBS'n and started writing and supporting Image BBS again as I did in the 80's and 90's, I get asked the same questions over and over again!! Sometimes from the same person!!


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  • From pweck@23:1/1 to Bucko on Monday, September 28, 2026 19:36:43
    dont be the sysop that gets told/asked "the answr is in the docs"

    Great post!! I can tell you from being the 1st line of support of Image BBS for the C64, I get asked questions like why doesn't my modem
    (TCPSER) set up on my new BBS? It's right in the docs! Read them cover
    to cover.. Over the past 8.5 years since I got back into BBS'n and
    started writing and supporting Image BBS again as I did in the 80's and 90's, I get asked the same questions over and over again!! Sometimes
    from the same person!!

    thanks, i know ive asked dumb questions :)

    pweck
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  • From Shurato@23:1/104 to pweck on Monday, September 28, 2026 19:40:59

    * In a message originally to Shurato, pweck said:

    read the documentation for your bbs software from start to finish
    befor
    zing. read that sentence again

    EleBBS doesn't come with documentation... You have to use the RA
    docs
    and hope for the best!
    there might be an opportunity to write a doc... pweck sysopnet

    Not me. My ADD is too extreme and I have no need.

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