• Have ALL Social-Security Numbers Been Stolen ? Report Suggests So

    From 186282@ud0s4.net@186283@ud0s4.net to talk.politics.misc,alt.security,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Thursday, August 15, 2024 03:34:42
    From Newsgroup: alt.security

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13745509/Hackers-stolen-Americans-Social-Security-numbers.html

    A vicious gang of hackers might have stolen every American's
    Social Security number in a massive theft of personal information
    from a large data broker, which experts are calling 'a five-alarm
    wake-up call.'

    Following the online heist, which took place four months ago,
    one of the hackers reportedly released most of the sensitive
    data on the dark web for free.

    Now that this sensitive information - including Social Security
    numbers - has been disseminated, it is possible it will give
    rise to rampant identity theft, fraud, and various other crimes.

    . . .

    If this is true, it means EVERYBODY has to be issued
    NEW numbers immediately. I'll be a MESS - but necessary.

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  • From Charlie Glock@"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.security,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Thursday, August 15, 2024 14:26:40
    From Newsgroup: alt.security

    On 2024-08-15, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13745509/Hackers-stolen-Americans-Social-Security-numbers.html

    A vicious gang of hackers might have stolen every American's
    Social Security number in a massive theft of personal information
    from a large data broker, which experts are calling 'a five-alarm
    wake-up call.'

    Following the online heist, which took place four months ago,
    one of the hackers reportedly released most of the sensitive
    data on the dark web for free.

    Now that this sensitive information - including Social Security
    numbers - has been disseminated, it is possible it will give
    rise to rampant identity theft, fraud, and various other crimes.

    . . .

    If this is true, it means EVERYBODY has to be issued
    NEW numbers immediately. I'll be a MESS - but necessary.

    Ain't that the truth. Expect for it to be covered up though. Election year and all that.
    --
    Charlie Glock
    "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms"
    - Thomas Jefferson 1776
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  • From 186282@ud0s4.net@186283@ud0s4.net to talk.politics.misc,alt.security,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Thursday, August 15, 2024 19:11:34
    From Newsgroup: alt.security

    On 8/15/24 10:26 AM, Charlie Glock wrote:
    On 2024-08-15, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13745509/Hackers-stolen-Americans-Social-Security-numbers.html

    A vicious gang of hackers might have stolen every American's
    Social Security number in a massive theft of personal information
    from a large data broker, which experts are calling 'a five-alarm
    wake-up call.'

    Following the online heist, which took place four months ago,
    one of the hackers reportedly released most of the sensitive
    data on the dark web for free.

    Now that this sensitive information - including Social Security
    numbers - has been disseminated, it is possible it will give
    rise to rampant identity theft, fraud, and various other crimes.

    . . .

    If this is true, it means EVERYBODY has to be issued
    NEW numbers immediately. I'll be a MESS - but necessary.

    Ain't that the truth. Expect for it to be covered up though. Election year and all that.


    Oh, of COURSE ! K and friends KEEP YOU SAFE ! :-)

    How many more jihadi, cartel hit men and Chinese
    spies imported THIS week ?

    In any case, if the story is even half true - and
    I've seen it repeated on a number sites foreign
    and domestic now - yer SS number CANNOT be used
    as Real ID anymore at the very least. Complete
    re-issue is recommended ... but how long until
    THOSE numbers get snatched ?

    Hmm ... 9 digits ... that's up to 999,999,999
    people. US pop is about 375 mil give or take so
    there's room for a complete re-do - but only
    ONE complete re-do.

    Bear in mind all the office software - databases
    and forms and such - that all INSIST on the current
    format and will scream error otherwise plus the
    underlying DBs that have all reserved 9 digits
    worth of space for SS nums. This is all through
    govt and industry. It'd ALL have to be re-done
    from the Lotus-123 DOS spreadsheet some may still
    be using up to all the Big Govt stuff.

    Replacement ? It'd have to be some kind of biometrics
    at minimum - pref with a 5-digit PIN code attached.
    Of course all those people who mysteriously can't
    possibly get a voter ID card won't go for THAT
    either. Oh, and what about older people, aside
    from Stars with megabuck docs, who *really* don't
    look like they did at 20 ? And how do you keep
    the biometric DB safe ... ?

    Fun fun fun !
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  • From Ciga@chess422@giganews.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.security,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Thursday, August 15, 2024 22:53:43
    From Newsgroup: alt.security

    On Thu, 15 Aug 2024 19:11:34 -0400
    "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
    In any case, if the story is even half true - and

    It's not even 1% true. Not one single person is getting a new SSN. The
    story is to sucker idiots.

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  • From 186282@ud0s4.net@186283@ud0s4.net to talk.politics.misc,alt.security,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Friday, August 16, 2024 01:37:20
    From Newsgroup: alt.security

    On 8/15/24 11:53 PM, Ciga wrote:
    On Thu, 15 Aug 2024 19:11:34 -0400
    "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
    In any case, if the story is even half true - and

    It's not even 1% true. Not one single person is getting a new SSN. The
    story is to sucker idiots.

    Say "Hi" to Vlad for us :-)

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  • From pothead@pothead@snakebite.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.security,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Friday, August 16, 2024 13:34:00
    From Newsgroup: alt.security

    On 2024-08-15, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
    On 8/15/24 10:26 AM, Charlie Glock wrote:
    On 2024-08-15, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13745509/Hackers-stolen-Americans-Social-Security-numbers.html

    A vicious gang of hackers might have stolen every American's
    Social Security number in a massive theft of personal information
    from a large data broker, which experts are calling 'a five-alarm
    wake-up call.'

    Following the online heist, which took place four months ago,
    one of the hackers reportedly released most of the sensitive
    data on the dark web for free.

    Now that this sensitive information - including Social Security
    numbers - has been disseminated, it is possible it will give
    rise to rampant identity theft, fraud, and various other crimes.

    . . .

    If this is true, it means EVERYBODY has to be issued
    NEW numbers immediately. I'll be a MESS - but necessary.

    Ain't that the truth. Expect for it to be covered up though. Election year and all that.


    Oh, of COURSE ! K and friends KEEP YOU SAFE ! :-)

    Yea. And they are doing one hell of a job.
    Yuck.


    How many more jihadi, cartel hit men and Chinese
    spies imported THIS week ?

    Many, many, many.
    And the truth is nobody really knows, until they emerge and begin to attack. And they most certainly will.

    In any case, if the story is even half true - and
    I've seen it repeated on a number sites foreign
    and domestic now - yer SS number CANNOT be used
    as Real ID anymore at the very least. Complete
    re-issue is recommended ... but how long until
    THOSE numbers get snatched ?

    It's true.
    And currently it's being reported all over the place from tech journals to the mainstream media.

    Hmm ... 9 digits ... that's up to 999,999,999
    people. US pop is about 375 mil give or take so
    there's room for a complete re-do - but only
    ONE complete re-do.

    And SS numbers are never reused. So when someone dies, that number is not at some point given to
    someone else.
    Supposedly we have another 50 years or so, at the current rate, before we run out of numbers.
    Also some of the reporting is a bit confusing because they conflate number of records stolen and
    number of SS numbers implying that ever record stolen contains an SS number and that is false.



    Bear in mind all the office software - databases
    and forms and such - that all INSIST on the current
    format and will scream error otherwise plus the
    underlying DBs that have all reserved 9 digits
    worth of space for SS nums. This is all through
    govt and industry. It'd ALL have to be re-done
    from the Lotus-123 DOS spreadsheet some may still
    be using up to all the Big Govt stuff.

    Excellent points!
    The Y2K fiasco comes to mind.
    Only worse because we are far more dependent upon computers now then in the year 2000.


    Replacement ? It'd have to be some kind of biometrics
    at minimum - pref with a 5-digit PIN code attached.
    Of course all those people who mysteriously can't
    possibly get a voter ID card won't go for THAT
    either. Oh, and what about older people, aside
    from Stars with megabuck docs, who *really* don't
    look like they did at 20 ? And how do you keep
    the biometric DB safe ... ?

    Most financial institutions require or suggest 2 factor authentication usually involving an email
    or mobile phone number.
    If the bad guys have this information it is possible to clone your phone number, usually a social
    engineering call to the provider or a visit to a busy phone store where the employees are not
    careful, at which point it's game over as with all the other information they drain your bank
    accounts and so forth.
    Or worse, they steal your identity and rack up debts, crimes, money laundering scams and so forth
    in your name.

    This stuff is frightening.

    Fun fun fun !
    Yea, till the credit card bounces when you go to pay for dinner :)
    --
    pothead
    Tommy Chong For President 2024.
    Crazy Joe Biden Is A Demented Imbecile.
    Impeach Joe Biden 2022.
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