• Chinese Telco Hacks May Be Worse Than We're Told

    From 186282@ud0s4.net@186283@ud0s4.net to talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.usa,alt.security,alt.politics.trump,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Monday, December 09, 2024 22:00:39
    From Newsgroup: alt.security

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/04/chinese-telco-hacks-white-house-00192714

    President Joe Biden and his White House team are all hands
    on deck to thwart a massive Chinese hack of several U.S.
    telecommunications providers — but Beijing is still in a
    position to spy on huge swathes of Americans, a top U.S.
    cyber official told reporters Wednesday.

    The president has been briefed “several times” about the
    hack, and a special White House response group is meeting
    to discuss it on a near daily basis, Anne Neuberger, the
    White House’s deputy national security adviser for cyber
    and emerging technology, said in a call on Wednesday.

    The White House is also working in close cooperation with
    at least eight U.S. telecommunications providers that have
    been breached by the China-backed hacking group known as
    Salt Typhoon, Neuberger said — the first official confirmation
    of the number of affected providers in the U.S. In addition,
    the White House has activated a new cyber defense task force
    between the NSA, Pentagon, and Cybersecurity and Infrastructure
    Security Agency to address the breach.

    Still, none of the U.S. telecommunications providers have
    managed to oust the Chinese hackers from their networks,
    Neuberger warned, which means that a large number of Americans
    remain vulnerable to Chinese eavesdropping.

    . . .

    First off, Joe doesn't know anything that's not on
    his prompter ... doesn't matter how many times you
    tell him. It's the back-room boyz handling this one.

    But, FAR more relevant, it's been a week since news
    of this started to come out. The Telco's STILL can't
    get the Chinese out of their systems !

    Who knows what the Chinese are leveraging while they
    are still deep into these systems - surely stuff to
    make the next attack better/faster/easier and kinda
    totally beyond dealing with.

    Look ... between China and Russia ... this is
    the preliminaries, maybe the first salvos, in
    a cyber-war. This stuff is not just punks fooling
    around - it's state-sponsored efforts to get total
    control of pretty much everything electronic -
    including controls of power grids, nuke plants,
    industrial controllers (huge variety of deadly
    targets there), Telcos, banking, probably even
    traffic lights and poop-plants in many areas.

    Attackers always have the advantage in these things,
    some new unknown trick. All the rest of us can do is
    kinda stick our finger in the dike after it's already
    broken, NOT good.

    Some industries/institutions already should have made
    offline redundant systems/records/capability. Betcha
    hardly ANY have ....... hey, IT CAN'T HAPPEN HERE,
    right ?

    Hmmmmm ... are domestic lefties HELPING our enemies,
    so Trump will inherit a wasteland ? Just wondering ...
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  • From pothead@pothead@snakebite.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.usa,alt.security,alt.politics.trump,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Tuesday, December 10, 2024 13:53:35
    From Newsgroup: alt.security

    On 2024-12-10, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/04/chinese-telco-hacks-white-house-00192714

    President Joe Biden and his White House team are all hands
    on deck to thwart a massive Chinese hack of several U.S.
    telecommunications providers — but Beijing is still in a
    position to spy on huge swathes of Americans, a top U.S.
    cyber official told reporters Wednesday.

    The president has been briefed “several times” about the
    hack, and a special White House response group is meeting
    to discuss it on a near daily basis, Anne Neuberger, the
    White House’s deputy national security adviser for cyber
    and emerging technology, said in a call on Wednesday.

    The White House is also working in close cooperation with
    at least eight U.S. telecommunications providers that have
    been breached by the China-backed hacking group known as
    Salt Typhoon, Neuberger said — the first official confirmation
    of the number of affected providers in the U.S. In addition,
    the White House has activated a new cyber defense task force
    between the NSA, Pentagon, and Cybersecurity and Infrastructure
    Security Agency to address the breach.

    Still, none of the U.S. telecommunications providers have
    managed to oust the Chinese hackers from their networks,
    Neuberger warned, which means that a large number of Americans
    remain vulnerable to Chinese eavesdropping.

    . . .

    First off, Joe doesn't know anything that's not on
    his prompter ... doesn't matter how many times you
    tell him. It's the back-room boyz handling this one.

    But, FAR more relevant, it's been a week since news
    of this started to come out. The Telco's STILL can't
    get the Chinese out of their systems !

    Who knows what the Chinese are leveraging while they
    are still deep into these systems - surely stuff to
    make the next attack better/faster/easier and kinda
    totally beyond dealing with.

    Look ... between China and Russia ... this is
    the preliminaries, maybe the first salvos, in
    a cyber-war. This stuff is not just punks fooling
    around - it's state-sponsored efforts to get total
    control of pretty much everything electronic -
    including controls of power grids, nuke plants,
    industrial controllers (huge variety of deadly
    targets there), Telcos, banking, probably even
    traffic lights and poop-plants in many areas.

    Attackers always have the advantage in these things,
    some new unknown trick. All the rest of us can do is
    kinda stick our finger in the dike after it's already
    broken, NOT good.

    Some industries/institutions already should have made
    offline redundant systems/records/capability. Betcha
    hardly ANY have ....... hey, IT CAN'T HAPPEN HERE,
    right ?

    Hmmmmm ... are domestic lefties HELPING our enemies,
    so Trump will inherit a wasteland ? Just wondering ...

    The Biden administration is busy screwing up the country as much as they
    can for that exact reason.
    They want Trump to inherit as big mess possible.

    As for the Telco hacks there is no doubt they are far worse than reported.

    Notice the huge Social Security / Dark Web breach by NPD exposing literally every
    person in the USA SSN disappeared from the news very quickly.
    Why is that?
    --
    pothead

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  • From Mitchell Holman@noemail@aol.com to talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.usa,alt.security,alt.politics.trump,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Tuesday, December 10, 2024 14:32:09
    From Newsgroup: alt.security

    pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
    news:vj9h4v$vp50$2@dont-email.me:

    On 2024-12-10, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/04/chinese-telco-hacks-white-hou
    se-00192714

    President Joe Biden and his White House team are all hands
    on deck to thwart a massive Chinese hack of several U.S.
    telecommunications providers — but Beijing is still in a
    position to spy on huge swathes of Americans, a top U.S.
    cyber official told reporters Wednesday.

    The president has been briefed “several times” about the
    hack, and a special White House response group is meeting
    to discuss it on a near daily basis, Anne Neuberger, the
    White House’s deputy national security adviser for cyber
    and emerging technology, said in a call on Wednesday.

    The White House is also working in close cooperation with
    at least eight U.S. telecommunications providers that have
    been breached by the China-backed hacking group known as
    Salt Typhoon, Neuberger said — the first official confirmation
    of the number of affected providers in the U.S. In addition,
    the White House has activated a new cyber defense task force
    between the NSA, Pentagon, and Cybersecurity and Infrastructure
    Security Agency to address the breach.

    Still, none of the U.S. telecommunications providers have
    managed to oust the Chinese hackers from their networks,
    Neuberger warned, which means that a large number of Americans
    remain vulnerable to Chinese eavesdropping.

    . . .

    First off, Joe doesn't know anything that's not on
    his prompter ... doesn't matter how many times you
    tell him. It's the back-room boyz handling this one.

    But, FAR more relevant, it's been a week since news
    of this started to come out. The Telco's STILL can't
    get the Chinese out of their systems !

    Who knows what the Chinese are leveraging while they
    are still deep into these systems - surely stuff to
    make the next attack better/faster/easier and kinda
    totally beyond dealing with.

    Look ... between China and Russia ... this is
    the preliminaries, maybe the first salvos, in
    a cyber-war. This stuff is not just punks fooling
    around - it's state-sponsored efforts to get total
    control of pretty much everything electronic -
    including controls of power grids, nuke plants,
    industrial controllers (huge variety of deadly
    targets there), Telcos, banking, probably even
    traffic lights and poop-plants in many areas.

    Attackers always have the advantage in these things,
    some new unknown trick. All the rest of us can do is
    kinda stick our finger in the dike after it's already
    broken, NOT good.

    Some industries/institutions already should have made
    offline redundant systems/records/capability. Betcha
    hardly ANY have ....... hey, IT CAN'T HAPPEN HERE,
    right ?

    Hmmmmm ... are domestic lefties HELPING our enemies,
    so Trump will inherit a wasteland ? Just wondering ...

    The Biden administration is busy screwing up the country as much as
    they can for that exact reason.
    They want Trump to inherit as big mess possible.


    Yes, just look at what Biden did.




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  • From TruthBarker@T.Baker@therehere.org to talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.usa,alt.security,alt.politics.trump,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh on Tuesday, December 10, 2024 11:17:17
    From Newsgroup: alt.security

    On 12/10/24 9:53 AM, pothead wrote:
    On 2024-12-10, 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/04/chinese-telco-hacks-white-house-00192714

    President Joe Biden and his White House team are all hands
    on deck to thwart a massive Chinese hack of several U.S.
    telecommunications providers — but Beijing is still in a
    position to spy on huge swathes of Americans, a top U.S.
    cyber official told reporters Wednesday.

    The president has been briefed “several times” about the
    hack, and a special White House response group is meeting
    to discuss it on a near daily basis, Anne Neuberger, the
    White House’s deputy national security adviser for cyber
    and emerging technology, said in a call on Wednesday.

    The White House is also working in close cooperation with
    at least eight U.S. telecommunications providers that have
    been breached by the China-backed hacking group known as
    Salt Typhoon, Neuberger said — the first official confirmation
    of the number of affected providers in the U.S. In addition,
    the White House has activated a new cyber defense task force
    between the NSA, Pentagon, and Cybersecurity and Infrastructure
    Security Agency to address the breach.

    Still, none of the U.S. telecommunications providers have
    managed to oust the Chinese hackers from their networks,
    Neuberger warned, which means that a large number of Americans
    remain vulnerable to Chinese eavesdropping.

    . . .

    First off, Joe doesn't know anything that's not on
    his prompter ... doesn't matter how many times you
    tell him. It's the back-room boyz handling this one.

    But, FAR more relevant, it's been a week since news
    of this started to come out. The Telco's STILL can't
    get the Chinese out of their systems !

    Who knows what the Chinese are leveraging while they
    are still deep into these systems - surely stuff to
    make the next attack better/faster/easier and kinda
    totally beyond dealing with.

    Look ... between China and Russia ... this is
    the preliminaries, maybe the first salvos, in
    a cyber-war. This stuff is not just punks fooling
    around - it's state-sponsored efforts to get total
    control of pretty much everything electronic -
    including controls of power grids, nuke plants,
    industrial controllers (huge variety of deadly
    targets there), Telcos, banking, probably even
    traffic lights and poop-plants in many areas.

    Attackers always have the advantage in these things,
    some new unknown trick. All the rest of us can do is
    kinda stick our finger in the dike after it's already
    broken, NOT good.

    Some industries/institutions already should have made
    offline redundant systems/records/capability. Betcha
    hardly ANY have ....... hey, IT CAN'T HAPPEN HERE,
    right ?

    Hmmmmm ... are domestic lefties HELPING our enemies,
    so Trump will inherit a wasteland ? Just wondering ...

    The Biden administration is busy screwing up the country as much as they
    can for that exact reason.
    They want Trump to inherit as big mess possible.


    Sure, why not? Why did Trump make a deal with the Taliban?

    As for the Telco hacks there is no doubt they are far worse than reported.


    tell us more, you seem to have inside knowledge

    Notice the huge Social Security / Dark Web breach by NPD exposing literally every
    person in the USA SSN disappeared from the news very quickly.
    Why is that?


    I am sure you will tell us why




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